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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: nicname on February 08, 2013, 08:32:52 PM
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http://www.kstatecollegian.com/2013/02/08/two-students-arrested-for-murder-arson-in-connection-with-apartment-fire-fatality/
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:frown:
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wtf were they doing, cooking meth?
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She has crazy eyes.
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WELP!
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Those people are not K-Staters.
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Those people are not K-Staters.
NOT ANYMORE!
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:blindfold:
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Hank Rolando?
Hank Rolando :sdeek:
about an hour ago ยท Like
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jfc
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Everybody loses in this story. :frown:
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my cousin has to feel good about this. he got arrested a few days ago for possession with intent and trying to rob a Dara's Fast Lane. now he's no longer the "new guy" at Riley County Jail.
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Wtf is this? Love triangle? 2 students caught cheating in a class and killed the one who knew? This smells scandalous.
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Right by 'Meister's residence :sdeek:
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damn...
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Right by 'Meister's residence :sdeek:
Yeah it was really strange. You could look into the 2nd floor windows and you couldn't even tell there was a fire. Everyone was making jokes about having 14 emergency vehicles at a tiny apartment fire, and then we saw a stretcher go in and come out :frown:.
Also of note, that guy and his brother went to my grade school. His brother was in my class and I used to carpool to football practice with him. His mother is insanely sheltering. The type of parent that wouldn't let a PG movie be shown to a 6th grade class. These two were always obsessed with guns and the military. I could have seen this coming from a million miles away.
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so was this a fire that they intentionally set with the purpose of #burningitdown?
or just completely negligent behavior that led to a fire?
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so was this a fire that they intentionally set with the purpose of #burningitdown?
or just completely negligent behavior that led to a fire?
My thought is that it was a prank that led to a death.
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Also of note, that guy and his brother went to my grade school. His brother was in my class and I used to carpool to football practice with him. His mother is insanely sheltering. The type of parent that wouldn't let a PG movie be shown to a 6th grade class. These two were always obsessed with guns and the military. I could have seen this coming from a million miles away.
I knew I recognized that name.
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I could have seen this coming from a million miles away.
You should've stopped it, in my (the most ethical on this board) opinion.
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:frown:
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Seems like an awfully quick investigation
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Admission maybe? Witnesses?
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Admission maybe? Witnesses?
Maybe someone rolled over.
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was this a fire that they intentionally set with the purpose of #burningitdown?
or just completely negligent behavior that led to a fire?
My thought is that it was a prank that led to a death.
Not a lawyer but I don't think felony murder would be the charge for a prank gone wrong.
Felony murder rule (Kansas)
For the felony murder rule in all U.S. jurisdictions, see felony murder rule.
In the state of Kansas, the common law felony murder rule has been codified in K.S.A. 21-3401. The statute defines first degree murder as, among other things, homicide in the commission of, attempt to commit, or escape from an inherently dangerous felony. Inherently dangerous felonies are defined in K.S.A. 21-3436 and include armed robbery, arson, and aggravated burglary.[1]
Judicial interpretations
In the case State v. Hoang, 243 Kan. 40 (1988), the Supreme Court of Kansas held that the accidental death of a co-felon during the commission of arson could support a felony murder conviction.[2]
In the case State v. Sophophone, 270 Kan. 703 (2001), the Supreme Court of Kansas held that a felony murder conviction could not be supported if the co-felon was killed by lawful attempts at apprehension by a police officer.[3]
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Are there any hot pics of the girl?
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was this a fire that they intentionally set with the purpose of #burningitdown?
or just completely negligent behavior that led to a fire?
My thought is that it was a prank that led to a death.
Not a lawyer but I don't think felony murder would be the charge for a prank gone wrong.
Felony murder rule (Kansas)
For the felony murder rule in all U.S. jurisdictions, see felony murder rule.
In the state of Kansas, the common law felony murder rule has been codified in K.S.A. 21-3401. The statute defines first degree murder as, among other things, homicide in the commission of, attempt to commit, or escape from an inherently dangerous felony. Inherently dangerous felonies are defined in K.S.A. 21-3436 and include armed robbery, arson, and aggravated burglary.[1]
Judicial interpretations
In the case State v. Hoang, 243 Kan. 40 (1988), the Supreme Court of Kansas held that the accidental death of a co-felon during the commission of arson could support a felony murder conviction.[2]
In the case State v. Sophophone, 270 Kan. 703 (2001), the Supreme Court of Kansas held that a felony murder conviction could not be supported if the co-felon was killed by lawful attempts at apprehension by a police officer.[3]
From my very good friend's personal experience, they hand out felony arsons as if they were jolly ranchers. Cannot speak to the murder part though.
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http://www.kansas.com/2013/04/17/2766299/two-plead-guilty-in-arson-that.html
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http://www.kansas.com/2013/04/17/2766299/two-plead-guilty-in-arson-that.html
so rough ridin' stupid
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did they think that would actually work. good lord.
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man
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Why are the feds handling this? I don't see the federal hook for jurisdiction.
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Why are the feds handling this? I don't see the federal hook for jurisdiction.
Because feds love to show up the local PD, flash the ole badge and say "We got this, now fetch some coffee"
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