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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 15, 2013, 10:23:00 PM
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People that watch this channel are awfully critical of FoxNews, I mean like they spend their entire day bitching about Fox and any time someone disagrees with them or points out where they're wrong they automatically blame Fox.
Are these people just stupid, or do the really not understand that msnbc is like FoxNews' burnt out, never finished college, pissed off, hasn't found a job he "loves," selfish little transgender sibling?
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People that watch this channel are awfully critical of FoxNews, I mean like they spend their entire day bitching about Fox and any time someone disagrees with them or points out where they're wrong they automatically blame Fox.
Are these people just stupid, or do the really not understand that msnbc is like FoxNews' burnt out, never finished college, pissed off, hasn't found a job he "loves," selfish little transgender sibling?
Totally. Nail on the head. *clapping.gif*
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People that watch this channel are awfully critical of FoxNews, I mean like they spend their entire day bitching about Fox and any time someone disagrees with them or points out where they're wrong they automatically blame Fox.
Are these people just stupid, or do the really not understand that msnbc is like FoxNews' burnt out, never finished college, pissed off, hasn't found a job he "loves," selfish little transgender sibling?
Hahaha...
You mad, bro?
Sounds like msnbc has you a little butt hurt.
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I just love Jon Stewart. :D
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Ironically and Demonstratively, I saw two different polls that found those who watch msnbc to be the least informed of those who represented they get their news primarily from tv sources.
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One of those guys has a ticker that constantly runs during his show with poll results. They are almost always about 90% or more in favor of the liberal stance. :lol:
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Dislike both, but I dislike MSNBC less due to Lockup and To Catch A Predator
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Ironically and Demonstratively, I saw two different polls that found those who watch msnbc to be the least informed of those who represented they get their news primarily from tv sources.
Where'd you see that? Fox?
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One of those guys has a ticker that constantly runs during his show with poll results. They are almost always about 90% or more in favor of the liberal stance. :lol:
There's a 100% chance one or more of the pit posters will cite one of these polls in support of their idiocy in a thread.
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Ironically and Demonstratively, I saw two different polls that found those who watch msnbc to be the least informed of those who represented they get their news primarily from tv sources.
Where'd you see that? Fox?
Ha.
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Dislike both, but I dislike MSNBC less due to Lockup and To Catch A Predator
Yes, and I think MSNBC is somewhat more honest about being a blatant propaganda machine than Fox is. Plus, they show some olympic sports when those are going on.
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Dislike both, but I dislike MSNBC less due to Lockup and To Catch A Predator
Yes, and I think MSNBC is somewhat more honest about being a blatant propaganda machine than Fox is. Plus, they show some olympic sports when those are going on.
Hmm, Lockup and American greed marathon? Yes please
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Dislike both, but I dislike MSNBC less due to Lockup and To Catch A Predator
Yes, and I think MSNBC is somewhat more honest about being a blatant propaganda machine than Fox is. Plus, they show some olympic sports when those are going on.
Only after olbermann got busted. They went down fighting calling themselves journalists until everyone disagreed. I think they found that their few moronic viewers didn't care to hear opposing views, so they embraced it.
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Dislike both, but I dislike MSNBC less due to Lockup and To Catch A Predator
Lockup and TCAP are great shows. Both could ultimately go into syndication and live long lives.
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can't sleep on sunday night? that's ok, lockup is on.
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can't sleep on sunday night? that's ok, lockup is on.
:thumbs:
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I have always found it interesting how much libs hate Fox. I mean, I get that they don't like it, but they freaking hate it and bring it up in every argument. "You must be watching too much Faux News maaaaaaaaaaaaan".
Why don't they just not watch it???
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I have always found it interesting how much libs hate Fox. I mean, I get that they don't like it, but they freaking hate it and bring it up in every argument. "You must be watching too much Faux News maaaaaaaaaaaaan".
Why don't they just not watch it???
It brought Glen Beck to the world. How do you not hate it?
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I have always found it interesting how much libs hate Fox. I mean, I get that they don't like it, but they freaking hate it and bring it up in every argument. "You must be watching too much Faux News maaaaaaaaaaaaan".
Why don't they just not watch it???
It brought Glen Beck to the world. How do you not hate it?
I hate ESPN for giving us Olbermann.
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Love me some Rachel Maddow!!
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I have always found it interesting how much libs hate Fox. I mean, I get that they don't like it, but they freaking hate it and bring it up in every argument. "You must be watching too much Faux News maaaaaaaaaaaaan".
Why don't they just not watch it???
It brought Glen Beck to the world. How do you not hate it?
I don't really watch it much. We have guy in our office that screams at the tv when someone turns it on. It is bizarre.
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I have always found it interesting how much libs hate Fox. I mean, I get that they don't like it, but they freaking hate it and bring it up in every argument. "You must be watching too much Faux News maaaaaaaaaaaaan".
Why don't they just not watch it???
your guy started this thread about msnbc
point me to the fox news thread
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not really the point I was making, but just for giggles I typed in Fox in the search and there are at least 37 threads that popped up. :cheers:
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let's combine all of them with this one to make one huge butthurt thread
except for the one where the guy killed himself live on fox news, that deserves it's own thread.
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I have always found it interesting how much libs hate Fox. I mean, I get that they don't like it, but they freaking hate it and bring it up in every argument. "You must be watching too much Faux News maaaaaaaaaaaaan".
Why don't they just not watch it???
It brought Glen Beck to the world. How do you not hate it?
CNN brought Glenn Beck into the world.
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Love me some Rachel Maddow!!
How anyone can listen to Rachel Maddow or Sean Hannity for more than 5 minutes without shoving a pencil in their ears, I have no idea.
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not really the point I was making, but just for giggles I typed in Fox in the search and there are at least 37 threads that popped up. :cheers:
68 v. 66 would be the count
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I get all my news from Atlantis Cable News.
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I have always found it interesting how much libs hate Fox. I mean, I get that they don't like it, but they freaking hate it and bring it up in every argument. "You must be watching too much Faux News maaaaaaaaaaaaan".
Why don't they just not watch it???
It brought Glen Beck to the world. How do you not hate it?
CNN brought Glenn Beck into the world.
Does CNN own Headline News because that's where I saw him first. I was lying(typical lib) when I said Fox brought him to the world. Fox is where he got super big and stuff.
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On election night I decided to watch fox for the spectacle... the meltdowns, the grasping at straws, the wild goose chases... all of it - epic. It was very much like watching ku in the tourny when the refs aren't on their knees for them and they just can't believe what's happening.
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On election night I decided to watch fox for the spectacle... the meltdowns, the grasping at straws, the wild goose chases... all of it - epic. It was very much like watching ku in the tourny when the refs aren't on their knees for them and they just can't believe what's happening.
The Karl Rove meltdown was incredible
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On election night I decided to watch fox for the spectacle... the meltdowns, the grasping at straws, the wild goose chases... all of it - epic. It was very much like watching ku in the tourny when the refs aren't on their knees for them and they just can't believe what's happening.
The Karl Rove meltdown was incredible
Having to watch them send down the attractive blond down back stage through the building to the bean counters in their cubicles was painful but amazing at the same time.
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So at this point, doesn't everyone who is pretty smart (i.e: most people here) realize that FOX News and MSNBC are both pretty much garbage for anything resembling objective news reporting but really high entertainment value? I mean, I hate the huge numbers of people influenced by both (way more on FOX, because they are better at it), but it sure can be fun to watch either.
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So at this point, doesn't everyone who is pretty smart (i.e: most people here) realize that FOX News and MSNBC are both pretty much garbage for anything resembling objective news reporting but really high entertainment value? I mean, I hate the huge numbers of people influenced by both (way more on FOX, because they are better at it), but it sure can be fun to watch either.
I think my only problem with either is their influence over dumbfucks. I mean, a large portion of our population feels they are getting their legitimate news from both.
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Most, if not all of the main stream media is mumped, no??? If you don't watch MSNBC or Fox, where do you get your news? NBC, ABC, CBS nightly, all just as mumped
Real Time w/ Bill Maher might be the best news/talk show on TV
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News on TV is a joke, no matter the source.
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I have always found it interesting how much libs hate Fox. I mean, I get that they don't like it, but they freaking hate it and bring it up in every argument. "You must be watching too much Faux News maaaaaaaaaaaaan".
Why don't they just not watch it???
It brought Glen Beck to the world. How do you not hate it?
CNN brought Glenn Beck into the world.
Does CNN own Headline News because that's where I saw him first. I was lying(typical lib) when I said Fox brought him to the world. Fox is where he got super big and stuff.
CNN became Headline News. I thought he was on it before they rebranded to HLN.
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News on TV is a joke, no matter the source.
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News on TV is a joke, no matter the source.
Well yea, but the majority of people dont understand this. I told my parents to watch MSNBC before the election because it's the least shitty imo. They push their agenda like everyone else but seem to use facts to back it up unlike Fox.
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I get all the news and politics information I need from steve dave. The most moderate person I know.
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News on TV is a joke, no matter the source.
Well yea, but the majority of people dont understand this. I told my parents to watch MSNBC before the election because it's the least shitty imo. They push their agenda like everyone else but seem to use facts to back it up unlike Fox.
:D
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News on TV is a joke, no matter the source.
Well yea, but the majority of people dont understand this. I told my parents to watch MSNBC before the election because it's the least shitty imo. They push their agenda like everyone else but seem to use facts to back it up unlike Fox.
Fox (TV) is more of an editorial to me. The website does have some editorialized stuff but generally okay. IMO the non-editorialized Fox stuff is less biased than most stuff you'll read on MSNBC. The least biased major news source I've found is the BBC but they get some crap wrong too.
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News on TV is a joke, no matter the source.
Well yea, but the majority of people dont understand this. I told my parents to watch MSNBC before the election because it's the least shitty imo. They push their agenda like everyone else but seem to use facts to back it up unlike Fox.
Fox (TV) is more of an editorial to me. The website does have some editorialized stuff but generally okay. IMO the non-editorialized Fox stuff is less biased than most stuff you'll read on MSNBC. The least biased major news source I've found is the BBC but they get some crap wrong too.
I like BBC and Al-Jazeera English, but you get shorted on domestic news.
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I get all the news and politics information I need from steve dave. The most moderate person I know.
AS SHOULD YOU ALL!
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When choosing to watch the news, I watch CNN... It is the most unbiased IMO. Rarely, if ever, watch MSNBC, probably even less than Fox. (despite the opinion of FSD)
Love Bill Maher and Jon Stewart in terms of commentary concerning the current events.
Get my news and information from NY Times, USA Today, Washington Post, Salon, The Atlantic, Slate, etc...
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CNN became Headline News. I thought he was on it before they rebranded to HLN.
I have no clue.
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I like to watch Jon Stossell sometimes on Fox Business. But then again I AM a neo-con.
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I like to watch Jon Stossell sometimes on Fox Business. But then again I AM a neo-con.
Stossell is good. Common sense just confuses the libs.
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I like to watch Jon Stossell sometimes on Fox Business. But then again I AM a neo-con.
Stossell is good. Common sense just confuses the libs.
All business-focused news leans to the right. Even the CNBC hosts will tell you that Obama is a rough ridin' moron, but that isn't to say it's right or "common sense." The Economist takes a macro view on most issues and typically comes down just left of center. If you are up to the challenge, The Economist is an excellent way to increase understanding beyond "god-damned taxes are too high."
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Stossell is on the business channel, but its not a business or economics show.
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Stossell is on the business channel, but its not a business or economics show.
Whatever, neo-con. I don't give a damn about Stossell, I just wanted to make sure everyone was aware that I read a fancy magazine.
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Stossell is on the business channel, but its not a business or economics show.
Whatever, neo-con. I don't give a damn about Stossell, I just wanted to make sure everyone was aware that I read a fancy magazine.
Magazines...... pffffftttttttt. Hey Bubbles why don't you get your typewriter out and send me a telegraph on the pony express.
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I have always found it interesting how much libs hate Fox. I mean, I get that they don't like it, but they freaking hate it and bring it up in every argument. "You must be watching too much Faux News maaaaaaaaaaaaan".
Why don't they just not watch it???
I honestly love both MSNBC and Fox, but I love internet trolls like Kim Carnes, too.
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i used to love watching fox/listening to rush, etc because it's hilarious how much spin they put on things. hannity and combs was one of my favorite shows when i was in high school (old balls, clinton was in office and it was VERY heated). since obama got elected though, it's just too much for me to handle. the racism from rush is pretty unbearable.
msnbc is boring because they agree with me, although i think maddow is the best commentator on the network and i love that little paper folding sound they do between clips.
i turn to fox during "breaking" news stories because they are the most talented and entertaining, but that doesn't mean as an organization they aren't generally the propaganda wing of the republican party, something that neo-cons won't even admit.
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i used to love watching fox/listening to rush, etc because it's hilarious how much spin they put on things. hannity and combs was one of my favorite shows when i was in high school (old balls, clinton was in office and it was VERY heated). since obama got elected though, it's just too much for me to handle. the racism from rush is pretty unbearable.
msnbc is boring because they agree with me, although i think maddow is the best commentator on the network and i love that little paper folding sound they do between clips.
i turn to fox during "breaking" news stories because they are the most talented and entertaining, but that doesn't mean as an organization they aren't generally the propaganda wing of the republican party, something that neo-cons won't even admit.
Of course they do. Republicans have fox, and the libs have every other media outlet.
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i like morning joe, at least when there is something happening in pop culture that can retain my interest for five minutes (or more).
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i used to love watching fox/listening to rush, etc because it's hilarious how much spin they put on things. hannity and combs was one of my favorite shows when i was in high school (old balls, clinton was in office and it was VERY heated). since obama got elected though, it's just too much for me to handle. the racism from rush is pretty unbearable.
msnbc is boring because they agree with me, although i think maddow is the best commentator on the network and i love that little paper folding sound they do between clips.
i turn to fox during "breaking" news stories because they are the most talented and entertaining, but that doesn't mean as an organization they aren't generally the propaganda wing of the republican party, something that neo-cons won't even admit.
Of course they do. Republicans have fox, and the libs have every other media outlet.
Here is what you can't understand. I'll try to make this very basic for you. MSNBC might have liberals who talk about liberally things in liberally ways. Foxnews flatout spews direct Republican party talking points and analysis. It isn't a conservative slant, its a Republican vision.
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BBC World Business Report at 6:30AM ERR'DAY!
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Msnbc is excruciating.
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i used to love watching fox/listening to rush, etc because it's hilarious how much spin they put on things. hannity and combs was one of my favorite shows when i was in high school (old balls, clinton was in office and it was VERY heated). since obama got elected though, it's just too much for me to handle. the racism from rush is pretty unbearable.
msnbc is boring because they agree with me, although i think maddow is the best commentator on the network and i love that little paper folding sound they do between clips.
i turn to fox during "breaking" news stories because they are the most talented and entertaining, but that doesn't mean as an organization they aren't generally the propaganda wing of the republican party, something that neo-cons won't even admit.
Of course they do. Republicans have fox, and the libs have every other media outlet.
Here is what you can't understand. I'll try to make this very basic for you. MSNBC might have liberals who talk about liberally things in liberally ways. Foxnews flatout spews direct Republican party talking points and analysis. It isn't a conservative slant, its a Republican vision.
So you are saying MSNBC is a terrible news source, but since FoxNews is a slightly more terrible news source that makes MSNBC OK?
Both are terrible sources for news because unless it's something that happened 8 seconds ago, they are editorializing the story. The only difference is do you get it with the view point you agree with with Hannity's smugness or Maddow's smugness.
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I don't watch any of the news networks for news. Unless it's breaking news or election results. Even then, I switch around to whoever is the most entertaining at the moment.
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I enjoy the 6-8 PM Erin Burnett/Anderson Cooper combo on CNN. I'll then occupy my time until Stewart/Colbert come on.
Occasionally, I'll watch Rachel Maddow because I find her to be entertaining. The rest of the dudes on msnbc are pretty awful except for Morning Joe.
Lawrence O'Donnell is insufferable, and I always feel like Ed Schultz is like some drunk guy at a Milwaukee bar telling me why the rich guy done screwed me good.
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I love the crap out of the PBS News Hour.
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i used to love watching fox/listening to rush, etc because it's hilarious how much spin they put on things. hannity and combs was one of my favorite shows when i was in high school (old balls, clinton was in office and it was VERY heated). since obama got elected though, it's just too much for me to handle. the racism from rush is pretty unbearable.
msnbc is boring because they agree with me, although i think maddow is the best commentator on the network and i love that little paper folding sound they do between clips.
i turn to fox during "breaking" news stories because they are the most talented and entertaining, but that doesn't mean as an organization they aren't generally the propaganda wing of the republican party, something that neo-cons won't even admit.
Of course they do. Republicans have fox, and the libs have every other media outlet.
Here is what you can't understand. I'll try to make this very basic for you. MSNBC might have liberals who talk about liberally things in liberally ways. Foxnews flatout spews direct Republican party talking points and analysis. It isn't a conservative slant, its a Republican vision.
If you want to know what is going to be the top story on any national TV news outlet other than Fox, all you need to do is go to Media Matters, which has direct access to the White House. There is no integrity left in the media.
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I enjoy the 6-8 PM Erin Burnett/Anderson Cooper combo on CNN. I'll then occupy my time until Stewart/Colbert come on.
Occasionally, I'll watch Rachel Maddow because I find her to be entertaining. The rest of the dudes on msnbc are pretty awful except for Morning Joe.
Lawrence O'Donnell is insufferable, and I always feel like Ed Schultz is like some drunk guy at a Milwaukee bar telling me why the rich guy done screwed me good.
I'm an Erin Burnett fan. She's about the only one besides Jake Tapper willing to ask a tough question of a democrat.
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
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FSD strikes me more as a infowars.com kind of guy.
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
Energy independence might be the biggest scam in Washington. Every side uses it to try to sell their point, whether it's green energy or increased exploration, but the reality is that if we used nothing but US energy, our gas prices would be much higher than they are now. Sure, it makes sense to have the ability to use alternate oil supplies in case we ever get cut off, but the idea that importing oil from the Middle East is bad is just ludicrous.
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Watching all of you dumbasses debate this makes an elite moderate like me feel so far above you. omg the air up here is fresh!
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Watching all of you dumbasses debate this makes an elite moderate like me feel so far above you. omg the air up here is fresh!
Which do you like more, though? For me, it goes
1. O'Reilly. Papa bear really bullies people around and then gives them the last word, only to get his last word in after the interview. He's great entertainment.
2. Maddow. She is probably the smartest out of the biased news media hosts, but she doesn't get the quality of guests than O'Reilly pulls in.
3. Hannity. He was much better when Allan Colmes co-hosted his show. Now he's just an bad person that parrots the republican party line and bullies guests. He can be entertaining, but he's usually not.
The rest of the shows (other than Lockup and To Catch a Predator of course) on those channels are awful.
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I enjoy laughing at Chris Matthews and the dumb crap he says from time to time. I don't like Ed Schultz. He's too over the top and seems to be trying too hard. Like a Rush Limbaugh but with a lot less people who listen to him.
It seems almost most of the liberal friends I have seldom watch/listen to political talk. While almost all of my conservative friends listen/watch political talk daily. But I think it might have been reversed when Bush was president.
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schutlz is unwatchable.
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Allan Colmes
Pretty sure this guy is a conservative stooge. No one is that dumb/bad at debating. Hannity would just softball up contradictions for Colmes to swat out of the park and Colmes never jumped on the opportunity. He always just stuck to whatever his original talking point was or serve up a bigger contradiction for Hannity to kill him on. Pretty sure Colmes was told anytime Hannity says something stupid just ignore it or say something more stupid.
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
This is so not worth my time because your limited comprehension will prevent any meaningful dialogue.
MSNBC = liberal
Foxnews = Republican party talking points
There is no analysis other than what the Republican party specifically wants. This doesn't mean conservative, it means they only spew corrosive Republican talking points. Its okay to have your news source from a conservative or liberal point of view. Its not okay to have a party run news corporation where users delude themselves into believing its fair and balanced.
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Allan Colmes
Pretty sure this guy is a conservative stooge. No one is that dumb/bad at debating. Hannity would just softball up contradictions for Colmes to swat out of the park and Colmes never jumped on the opportunity. He always just stuck to whatever his original talking point was or serve up a bigger contradiction for Hannity to kill him on. Pretty sure Colmes was told anytime Hannity says something stupid just ignore it or say something more stupid.
Yeah, the show was much better when Hannity had somebody who could make him look like an intellectual. Now he just acts like an bad person for a 1 hour segment and throws a nerf football before every commercial break.
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
This is so not worth my time because your limited comprehension will prevent any meaningful dialogue.
MSNBC = liberal
Foxnews = Republican party talking points
There is no analysis other than what the Republican party specifically wants. This doesn't mean conservative, it means they only spew corrosive Republican talking points. Its okay to have your news source from a conservative or liberal point of view. Its not okay to have a party run news corporation where users delude themselves into believing its fair and balanced.
:flush: :facepalm:
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
This is so not worth my time because your limited comprehension will prevent any meaningful dialogue.
MSNBC = liberal
Foxnews = Republican party talking points
There is no analysis other than what the Republican party specifically wants. This doesn't mean conservative, it means they only spew corrosive Republican talking points. Its okay to have your news source from a conservative or liberal point of view. Its not okay to have a party run news corporation where users delude themselves into believing its fair and balanced.
:flush: :facepalm:
nice tapout
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Wow Edna. :facepalm:
Pretty much confirming he is one of the ignorant morons that is the subject of this thread.
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
Energy independence might be the biggest scam in Washington. Every side uses it to try to sell their point, whether it's green energy or increased exploration, but the reality is that if we used nothing but US energy, our gas prices would be much higher than they are now. Sure, it makes sense to have the ability to use alternate oil supplies in case we ever get cut off, but the idea that importing oil from the Middle East is bad is just ludicrous.
I'm not sure you understand what "impossible" means. In any event, it's not a scam. It's a fact even the administration has been forced to acknowledge.
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
This is so not worth my time because your limited comprehension will prevent any meaningful dialogue.
MSNBC = liberal
Foxnews = Republican party talking points
There is no analysis other than what the Republican party specifically wants. This doesn't mean conservative, it means they only spew corrosive Republican talking points. Its okay to have your news source from a conservative or liberal point of view. Its not okay to have a party run news corporation where users delude themselves into believing its fair and balanced.
:flush: :facepalm:
nice tapout
There was nothing to say. Your post pretty much ended the thread proving OP is 100% accurate.
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
This is so not worth my time because your limited comprehension will prevent any meaningful dialogue.
MSNBC = liberal
Foxnews = Republican party talking points
There is no analysis other than what the Republican party specifically wants. This doesn't mean conservative, it means they only spew corrosive Republican talking points. Its okay to have your news source from a conservative or liberal point of view. Its not okay to have a party run news corporation where users delude themselves into believing its fair and balanced.
:flush: :facepalm:
nice tapout
There was nothing to say. Your post pretty much ended the thread proving OP is 100% accurate.
sorry I tried to dumb it down as much as possible for ya. :dunno:
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
Energy independence might be the biggest scam in Washington. Every side uses it to try to sell their point, whether it's green energy or increased exploration, but the reality is that if we used nothing but US energy, our gas prices would be much higher than they are now. Sure, it makes sense to have the ability to use alternate oil supplies in case we ever get cut off, but the idea that importing oil from the Middle East is bad is just ludicrous.
I'm not sure you understand what "impossible" means. In any event, it's not a scam. It's a fact even the administration has been forced to acknowledge.
They only play the energy independence card to push green energy. It is absolutely not in the United States' best interest to become completely energy independent via government subsidies. The free market will always yield the best price, and it is cheaper, at least today, to purchase foreign oil than it is to extract it domestically.
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
Energy independence might be the biggest scam in Washington. Every side uses it to try to sell their point, whether it's green energy or increased exploration, but the reality is that if we used nothing but US energy, our gas prices would be much higher than they are now. Sure, it makes sense to have the ability to use alternate oil supplies in case we ever get cut off, but the idea that importing oil from the Middle East is bad is just ludicrous.
I'm not sure you understand what "impossible" means. In any event, it's not a scam. It's a fact even the administration has been forced to acknowledge.
They only play the energy independence card to push green energy. It is absolutely not in the United States' best interest to become completely energy independent via government subsidies. The free market will always yield the best price, and it is cheaper, at least today, to purchase foreign oil than it is to extract it domestically.
I'm sorry NK, but did you just use the phrase "free market" to describe oil? :lol:
Oil is one of the most heavily regulated items on the planet. Since I'm sure you've heard of OPEC, you should know they can decide whether to raise or lower the supply. This also ignore the untold amount of money through subsidies oil companies have been getting for the past century in the USA, let alone in other countries. The government long ago decided that it's best interest was cheap oil.
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
Energy independence might be the biggest scam in Washington. Every side uses it to try to sell their point, whether it's green energy or increased exploration, but the reality is that if we used nothing but US energy, our gas prices would be much higher than they are now. Sure, it makes sense to have the ability to use alternate oil supplies in case we ever get cut off, but the idea that importing oil from the Middle East is bad is just ludicrous.
I'm not sure you understand what "impossible" means. In any event, it's not a scam. It's a fact even the administration has been forced to acknowledge.
They only play the energy independence card to push green energy. It is absolutely not in the United States' best interest to become completely energy independent via government subsidies. The free market will always yield the best price, and it is cheaper, at least today, to purchase foreign oil than it is to extract it domestically.
I'm sorry NK, but did you just use the phrase "free market" to describe oil? :lol:
Oil is one of the most heavily regulated items on the planet. Since I'm sure you've heard of OPEC, you should know they can decide whether to raise or lower the supply. This also ignore the untold amount of money through subsidies oil companies have been getting for the past century in the USA, let alone in other countries. The government long ago decided that it's best interest was cheap oil.
If they stop selling us oil, we stop selling them food. This is not hard. Even with OPEC, it is far cheaper to purchase oil from the Middle East than it is to fund US oil exploration.
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This Reuters opinion article pretty much conveys the reasons energy independence is a scam.
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/10/19/energy-independence-is-a-farce/ (http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/10/19/energy-independence-is-a-farce/)
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If you live in Kansas and aren't aware of the boom in domestic O&G production, well then you are just a rough ridin' ignorant Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Energy independence may not be in the "best interest of the united states" in your opinion, but it sure as hell is possible and well on its way to becoming a reality. I'm sorry if you prefer to read some globalwarmafoid's take on energy independence in some sloppy article that misses the point.
The so-called "subsidies" that the O&G industry receives are accelerated depreciation of O&G exploration costs and a domestic manufacturing credit available to all companies in the US. Those "subsidies" pale in comparison to the green energy subsidies, and green energy is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) (right now).
Stop rough ridin' up this thread with your nonsense.
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If you live in Kansas and aren't aware of the boom in domestic O&G production, well then you are just a rough ridin' ignorant Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Energy independence may not be in the "best interest of the united states" in your opinion, but it sure as hell is possible and well on its way to becoming a reality. I'm sorry if you prefer to read some globalwarmafoid's take on energy independence in some sloppy article that misses the point.
The so-called "subsidies" that the O&G industry receives are accelerated depreciation of O&G exploration costs and a domestic manufacturing credit available to all companies in the US. Those "subsidies" pale in comparison to the green energy subsidies, and green energy is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) (right now).
Stop rough ridin' up this thread with your nonsense.
:lol:
I think my favorite part of this post you guys is when he said the amount of subsidies pales in comparison to green energy subsidies. I mean you can't make this stuff up folks.
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You don't know what you're talking about.
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You don't know what you're talking about.
If you had proof of this you would've posted at least one link to a study that shows Green Energy companies getting more subsidies than oil companies.
And even if they start getting more, that would still pale in comparison to the oil companies, who have been getting subsidies for decades before green energy companies started becoming more abundant.
I also don't get why this is a left/right issue, both sides claim to want energy independence.
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Nuh uh, if you haved proofs you'd have typed em hur
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You don't know what you're talking about.
If you had proof of this you would've posted at least one link to a study that shows Green Energy companies getting more subsidies than oil companies.
And even if they start getting more, that would still pale in comparison to the oil companies, who have been getting subsidies for decades before green energy companies started becoming more abundant.
I also don't get why this is a left/right issue, both sides claim to want energy independence.
At least oil subsidies are successful and achieve the desired results, more domestic production. Green subsidies just send more money overseas or pay green company CEOs big bonuses to take them into bankruptcy. I have no problem spending money on actual research and development, but it's stupid to invest in the production of "not ready for market" technology.
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If everyone gets the subsidy, is it still a subsidy?
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FSD is a really lame troll. I expected much better given the site. FSD is constantly on this board, with some of the best BBSers in the country, been on the site for years, and he's still terrible. Should've hung up the keyboard years ago.
As for doug, I'll start addressing him when he stops taking talking points at face value. So probably never.
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hey sd, do you remember that graph you posted where it made it look like stuff went up during obama, but actually they labeled it all mumped up and something went down.
that was funny.
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hey sd, do you remember that graph you posted where it made it look like stuff went up during obama, but actually they labeled it all mumped up and something went down.
that was funny.
Was that the federal deficit thing or the unemployment thing?
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it was like a line that went up and down during bush and they had the numbers at all the peaks and valleys, and then spiked up huge for obama and his number at the peak was lower than bush's numbers. it was a great graph.
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Great story guys... Have you met Manti Te'o's gf?
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steve dave is truly fair and balanced
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Sheesh, I have a bad memory!
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I remember this graph. It would be misleading if you couldn't read numbers.
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I remember this graph. It would be misleading if you couldn't read numbers.
t's & p's fox viewers.
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I love the "msnbc" presents facts that are presented with a liberal slant statement, but Fox is just propaganda.
I mean, wtf is wrong with you ignorant morons?
Also, msnbc has repeatedly held the position that domestic energy independence not only unrealistic but impossible. They also hold the position that fracing damages drinking water. Both of these positions are demonstratively false. Even the admin they pee down their leg over has reluctantly confirmed. They simply don't even bother to check "facts" 99% of the time.
As for media matters, the things they state are false are 99% a matter of opinion. The fact that there's a well funded left winged mouthpiece charged with monitoring Fox 24/7 for "reporting" the items is beyond pathetic.
This is so not worth my time because your limited comprehension will prevent any meaningful dialogue.
MSNBC = liberal
Foxnews = Republican party talking points
There is no analysis other than what the Republican party specifically wants. This doesn't mean conservative, it means they only spew corrosive Republican talking points. Its okay to have your news source from a conservative or liberal point of view. Its not okay to have a party run news corporation where users delude themselves into believing its fair and balanced.
This statement reminds me of GE owning NBC, and Jeff Immelt being appointed "Jobs Czar". It's kind of like Exxon owning Fox... er, nevermind.
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LOL, What's the story here?
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i wish i knew.
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news
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Apparently someone at the huffpost purchased half a tv. Dumbfucks
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Apparently someone at the huffpost purchased half a tv. Dumbfucks
New scam. TV buyers beware.