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WR -- Miller, Klein, Burton.
LT -- Lucas,Mariner
LG -- Whitehair, Mariner
C -- Finney, Liddle
RG -- Stiverson, Taylor
RT -- Rooks, Clement
TE -- Trujillo, McDonald
QB -- Sams, Waters
RB -- Hubert, Rose, Robinson
FB -- Gronk?
WR -- Lockett, Sexton
WR -- Thompson, Burton
DEFENSE
DE -- Nash, Dowling, Finau, Boyd
DT -- Britz, Reed
DT -- Akinola, Hollingshead, Hood
DE -- Mueller, Bryant, Willis
WLB -- Truman, Moore
SLB --Johnson, Ramirez
MLB -- Walker, Slaughter
CB -- Evans, Miles.
FS -- Zimmerman, Barnett
SS---Gainous,
CB -- Daily, Jackson
Nickle, Jackson/Burns
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Defense is gonna be scary next year..as in not very good :bawl:
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RB -- Hubert, Rose, Robinson
You've instantly lost all credibility with me by making this mistake
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What team are those defensive players from?
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Tre Walker doesn't play MLB. Also, Nate Jackson will start.
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WR -- Miller, Burton.
LT -- Lucas,Mariner
LG -- Whitehair, Clement
C -- Finney, Liddle
RG -- Stiverson, Taylor
RT -- Rooks, Cooper
TE -- Trujillo, McDonald
QB -- Sams, Waters
RB -- Hubert, Robinson
FB -- Gronk, Nemechek
WR -- Lockett, Sexton
WR -- Thompson, Burton
DEFENSE
DE -- Finau, Dowling,
DT -- Britz, Hollingshed
DT -- Reed, Hood
DE -- Mueller, Nash
WLB -- Truman, Moore
SLB --Walker, Johnson
MLB -- Slaughter, Snyder
CB -- Evans, Jackson or Burns
FS -- Zimmerman, Gainous
SS---Barnett, Green
CB -- Miles, Daily or Burns
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after seeing the OP
I am now confused as to what in the hell "two deep" means
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Tre Walker doesn't play MLB. Also, Nate Jackson will start.
He did his freshman year and will move back to that position next year.
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WR -- Miller, Burton.
LT -- Lucas,Mariner
LG -- Whitehair, Clement
C -- Finney, Liddle
RG -- Stiverson, Taylor
RT -- Rooks, Cooper
TE -- Trujillo, McDonald
QB -- Sams, Waters
RB -- Hubert, Robinson
FB -- Gronk, Nemechek
WR -- Lockett, Sexton
WR -- Thompson, Burton
DEFENSE
DE -- Finau, Dowling,
DT -- Britz, Hollingshed
DT -- Reed, Hood
DE -- Mueller, Nash
WLB -- Truman, Moore
SLB --Walker, Johnson
MLB -- Slaughter, Snyder
CB -- Evans, Jackson or Burns
FS -- Zimmerman, Gainous
SS---Barnett, Green
CB -- Miles, Daily or Burns
Slaughter is gone. Also missing Hardison.
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Slaughter was supposedly able to come back
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RB -- Hubert, Rose, Robinson
You've instantly lost all credibility with me by making this mistake
Yeah, Rose won't back up Hubes, but who will?
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Yeah, we could really use a big RB
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If Gronk is the best athlete in the family, we should find a place for him to do athletic things. Surely we can find a DITR to block at fb.
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If Gronk is the best athlete in the family, we should find a place for him to do athletic things. Surely we can find a DITR to block at fb.
Gronk will have plenty of opportunity between TE and FB to see playing time next year. Nemechek may be ahead (and is the DITR type your suggest) at FB, but Tannahill leaving opens up a TE spot. Dimel figured out how to use his brothers, I'm sure he has a plan for another Gronk if he can play.
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Would great if Gronk could be our short yardage back - post carry celebrations would be epic
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If Gronk is the best athlete in the family, we should find a place for him to do athletic things. Surely we can find a DITR to block at fb.
Fullbacks can be used for more than just blocking. Rock had far more carries and catches out of the backfield then we've seen from recent fbs. If we have a great athlete at fb, we simply give it to the fb more often.
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Even with Slaughter back, LBs:
Walker
Truman
Moore
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If Gronk is the best athlete in the family, we should find a place for him to do athletic things. Surely we can find a DITR to block at fb.
Fullbacks can be used for more than just blocking. Rock had far more carries and catches out of the backfield then we've seen from recent fbs. If we have a great athlete at fb, we simply give it to the fb more often.
There where times it seemed the coaches really wanted to use Wilson in more ways than just blocking, but every time they tried he failed miserably
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WR -- Miller, Burton.
LT -- Lucas,Mariner
LG -- Whitehair, Clement
C -- Finney, Liddle
RG -- Stiverson, Taylor
RT -- Rooks, Cooper
TE -- Trujillo, McDonald
QB -- Sams, Waters
RB -- Hubert, Robinson
FB -- Gronk, Nemechek
WR -- Lockett, Sexton
WR -- Thompson, Burton
DEFENSE
DE -- Finau, Dowling,
DT -- Britz, Hollingshed
DT -- Reed, Hood
DE -- Mueller, Nash
WLB -- Truman, Moore
SLB --Walker, Johnson
MLB -- Slaughter, Snyder
CB -- Evans, Jackson or Burns
FS -- Zimmerman, Gainous
SS---Barnett, Green
CB -- Miles, Daily or Burns
Slaughter is gone. Also missing Hardison.
Hardison is not committed here. Also I think Ramirez will have a chance to start. We need the depth at LB so I dont think he will gray/red shirt
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If Gronk is the best athlete in the family, we should find a place for him to do athletic things. Surely we can find a DITR to block at fb.
Fullbacks can be used for more than just blocking. Rock had far more carries and catches out of the backfield then we've seen from recent fbs. If we have a great athlete at fb, we simply give it to the fb more often.
There where times it seemed the coaches really wanted to use Wilson in more ways than just blocking, but every time they tried he failed miserably
Yes, they gave him more than ample chances to do something more than block.
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Tre Walker doesn't play MLB. Also, Nate Jackson will start.
Walker is much better suited to play MLB than either outside spot. What makes you think Jackson will just waltz in and lock down a starting corner spot ahead of the guys that have been here for years?
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Tre Walker doesn't play MLB. Also, Nate Jackson will start.
Walker is much better suited to play MLB than either outside spot. What makes you think Jackson will just waltz in and lock down a starting corner spot ahead of the guys that have been here for years?
Walker is 220 or so lbs and he has a lot of speed. He is much more suited for OLB. I've just got a hunch for Jackson. There isn't much in front of him to beat out for a starting spot.
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Yeah, we could really use a big RB
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/leverett_jarvis00.html
Scout team player of year and insidery stuff says he's 'Da troof'
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpdnNZUigd0
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Yeah, we could really use a big RB
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/leverett_jarvis00.html
Scout team player of year and insidery stuff says he's 'Da troof'
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpdnNZUigd0
He's listed as 203lbs. That's nowhere near a big RB.
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Yeah, we could really use a big RB
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/leverett_jarvis00.html
Scout team player of year and insidery stuff says he's 'Da troof'
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpdnNZUigd0
He's listed as 203lbs. That's nowhere near a big RB.
I've stood next to him during warmups. The kids a horse and will be great replacement for Pease.
You didn't think Ron Dayne or Adrian Peterson were gonna show up this spring, did you?
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Yeah, we could really use a big RB
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/leverett_jarvis00.html
Scout team player of year and insidery stuff says he's 'Da troof'
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpdnNZUigd0
He's listed as 203lbs. That's nowhere near a big RB.
I've stood next to him during warmups. The kids a horse and will be great replacement for Pease.
You didn't think Ron Dayne or Adrian Peterson were gonna show up this spring, did you?
No, I thought that since you were responding to a post about big RBs you would mention a big RB. If the question was "do we have any average size RBs?" then mentioning Jarvis would have been completely appropriate.
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Yeah, we could really use a big RB
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/leverett_jarvis00.html
Scout team player of year and insidery stuff says he's 'Da troof'
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpdnNZUigd0
He's listed as 203lbs. That's nowhere near a big RB.
I've stood next to him during warmups. The kids a horse and will be great replacement for Pease.
You didn't think Ron Dayne or Adrian Peterson were gonna show up this spring, did you?
No, I thought that since you were responding to a post about big RBs you would mention a big RB. If the question was "do we have any average size RBs?" then mentioning Jarvis would have been completely appropriate.
Here's our other backs:
Hubert 5'7" 191
Rose 5'4" 174
Robinson 5'6" 206
So, by comparison... Leverette is a "big back" by Snyder standards. For future reference, what will be the height/weight minimums when referencing big backs so that I don't make the same mistake?
:dubious:
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Daniel Thomas was 230. He was above average.
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So this guy is Josh Scobey? :love:
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I'm really excited to see more DROB. In my imagination he is exactly MJD.
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Daniel Thomas was 230. He was above average.
Yeah... He was a freak size-wise and those are few and far between.
Leverette is a really good size, shifty, speedy back.
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Tre Walker doesn't play MLB. Also, Nate Jackson will start.
Walker is much better suited to play MLB than either outside spot. What makes you think Jackson will just waltz in and lock down a starting corner spot ahead of the guys that have been here for years?
Walker is 220 or so lbs and he has a lot of speed. He is much more suited for OLB. I've just got a hunch for Jackson. There isn't much in front of him to beat out for a starting spot.
Arthur Brown is around 220 and has a lot of speed.
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Tre Walker doesn't play MLB. Also, Nate Jackson will start.
Walker is much better suited to play MLB than either outside spot. What makes you think Jackson will just waltz in and lock down a starting corner spot ahead of the guys that have been here for years?
Walker is 220 or so lbs and he has a lot of speed. He is much more suited for OLB. I've just got a hunch for Jackson. There isn't much in front of him to beat out for a starting spot.
Arthur Brown is around 220 and has a lot of speed.
MLB suits Arthur's style of play much better. He is thicker than Tre and is a very hard hitter. Tre is much more suited for OLB than he is ILB. Idk why you're even arguing this.
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I don't know why you're arguing this. There are reasons why TW wasn't on the field as much as AB and Childs. MLB doesn't come off during passing downs, for us SLB does. If Tre is our best LB you want him on the field as much as possible, playing Mike, not Sam affords that opportunity.
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I don't know why you're arguing this. There are reasons why TW wasn't on the field as much as AB and Childs. MLB doesn't come off during passing downs, for us SLB does. If Tre is our best LB you want him on the field as much as possible, playing Mike, not Sam affords that opportunity.
If Tre is our best linebacker our defense is in deep crap.
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I don't know why you're arguing this. There are reasons why TW wasn't on the field as much as AB and Childs. MLB doesn't come off during passing downs, for us SLB does. If Tre is our best LB you want him on the field as much as possible, playing Mike, not Sam affords that opportunity.
If Tre is our best linebacker our defense is in deep crap.
truth
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I don't know why you're arguing this. There are reasons why TW wasn't on the field as much as AB and Childs. MLB doesn't come off during passing downs, for us SLB does. If Tre is our best LB you want him on the field as much as possible, playing Mike, not Sam affords that opportunity.
If Tre is our best linebacker our defense is in deep crap.
truth
That..and the fact that we're having to replace two incredibly productive Defensive ends and starting Corners.
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I don't know why you're arguing this. There are reasons why TW wasn't on the field as much as AB and Childs. MLB doesn't come off during passing downs, for us SLB does. If Tre is our best LB you want him on the field as much as possible, playing Mike, not Sam affords that opportunity.
If Tre is our best linebacker our defense is in deep crap.
truth
That..and the fact that we're having to replace two incredibly productive Defensive ends and starting Corners.
and DTs, and a safety
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I don't know why you're arguing this. There are reasons why TW wasn't on the field as much as AB and Childs. MLB doesn't come off during passing downs, for us SLB does. If Tre is our best LB you want him on the field as much as possible, playing Mike, not Sam affords that opportunity.
If Tre is our best linebacker our defense is in deep crap.
truth
That..and the fact that we're having to replace two incredibly productive Defensive ends and starting Corners.
and DTs, and a safety
We will be better at safety, more athletic at corner and a crap shoot every where else. We are going to have a huge issue on getting pressure on the QB next year.
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Defense is gonna be scary next year..as in not very good :bawl:
we said the same last season after losing five or six starters on defense. I think it is a more true statement this year but we might have more disruptive ability on the DL (still depends on who we sign) and more speed in the secondary. But it's difficult to see the level of play with so many graduations.
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Slaughter was the one that was slow as crap and got beat consistently during Snyder's first year back, right?
Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather have pretty much anyone start next year. Would love to see Truman, Walker and Moore
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I see nobody has given any love to Will Davis coming into this next yr as a RsFr? Has he not developed? Seems like he was decently touted out of HS as TX 5A defensive POTY. TIA to insidery info.
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I see nobody has given any love to Will Davis coming into this next yr as a RsFr? Has he not developed? Seems like he was decently touted out of HS as TX 5A defensive POTY. TIA to insidery info.
good point Mr. Davis
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Guys, our D-Line is shhit again. I'm talking '10 bad.
Pray to god that Akinola is qualified. :pray:
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Our O-line is dreamy :love:
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Do you think we'll bring any sort of screen game back? Or is this a Dana Dimel/the way defenses are moving type thing? I felt against Baylor and Oregon, they just blitzed, knowing the secondary was quick enough to close gaps on any separation our wr's had gotten because of Kleins inability to get the ball to the receivers quickly (whether it was slow developing plays or Kleins shortcomings). I felt like we did very few things to negate or slow down the blitz.
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I am almost wondering if we would be better off running a 3-4 next year.
Anyone expected to show up at WR next year that is taller than 5'7?
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I am almost wondering if we would be better off running a 3-4 next year.
Hell no, you need a monster of a D line to run a 3-4 and need linebackers that can really cover. We not close to having that.
Anyone expected to show up at WR next year that is taller than 5'7?
VERNON VAUGHN
Ht:6'2"
Wt:190 lbs
40:4.6 secs
DEANTE BURTON
Ht:6'2"
Wt:200 lbs
40:4.49 secs
ANDRE JACKSON
Ht:6'5
Wt:225 lbs
40:4.5 secs
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this thread makes me :sdeek:
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this thread makes me :sdeek:
yeah, it's going to be a scary season
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Our O-line is dreamy :love:
If by dreamy you mean overrated, then yes, I agree.
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Our O-line is dreamy :love:
If by dreamy you mean overrated, then yes, I agree.
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buncha droopy dicked debra downers trying to take over in here.
our oline will dominate and sams will stomp faces in and throw 50 TDs to 6'5" andre juckson. also our D will tackle all comers short of the goal line. go cats go 2013
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I'm so pissed that The Manhatter made me think our o-line was good.
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I'm so pissed that The Manhatter made me think our o-line was good.
It was the OU game.
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we're going to be 2013's version of 2012 OSU, and hey, that's pretty good!
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we're going to be 2013's version of 2012 OSU, and hey, that's pretty good!
Will take
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we're going to be 2013's version of 2012 OSU, and hey, that's pretty good!
Will take
Yep!
Throw in a blow out bowl victory over some poop Big 10 team and you've got yourself nice little season right there.
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we're going to be 2013's version of 2012 OSU, and hey, that's pretty good!
Will take
Yep!
Throw in a blow out bowl victory over some poop Big 10 team and you've got yourself nice little season right there.
Hope we don't have to use Sam Johnson as our Clint Chelf. :ohno:
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we're going to be 2013's version of 2012 OSU, and hey, that's pretty good!
Will take
Yep!
Throw in a blow out bowl victory over some poop Big 10 team and you've got yourself nice little season right there.
Hope we don't have to use Sam Johnson as our Clint Chelf. :ohno:
hopefully bill would pull the RS off the Iowa kid before it came to that
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we're going to be 2013's version of 2012 OSU, and hey, that's pretty good!
Will take
Yep!
Throw in a blow out bowl victory over some poop Big 10 team and you've got yourself nice little season right there.
Yay or nay to playing Nebraska in the Heart of Dallas Bowl?
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we're going to be 2013's version of 2012 OSU, and hey, that's pretty good!
Will take
Yep!
Throw in a blow out bowl victory over some poop Big 10 team and you've got yourself nice little season right there.
Yay or nay to playing Nebraska in the Heart of Dallas Bowl?
I'll say Yay, but it will be in the BWW Bowl as we roll in the game to go 9-4 on the season
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we're going to be 2013's version of 2012 OSU, and hey, that's pretty good!
Will take
Yep!
Throw in a blow out bowl victory over some poop Big 10 team and you've got yourself nice little season right there.
Yay or nay to playing Nebraska in the Heart of Dallas Bowl?
I'll say Yay, but it will be in the BWW Bowl as we roll in the game to go 9-4 on the season
yes, agreed
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Yeah, we could really use a big RB
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/leverett_jarvis00.html
Scout team player of year and insidery stuff says he's 'Da troof'
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpdnNZUigd0
He's listed as 203lbs. That's nowhere near a big RB.
I've stood next to him during warmups. The kids a horse and will be great replacement for Pease.
You didn't think Ron Dayne or Adrian Peterson were gonna show up this spring, did you?
Peterson is listed at 6'1" and 217 lbs, Leverett isn't much smaller. Also, is that weight current or what was listed at the beginning of the season? I would assume it would change, though it could change either direction.
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I would love the Alamo; it would be nice to exorsise those demons as a positive end to a rebuilding season
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The addition of Campbell to SLB would help tremendously.
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we're going to be 2013's version of 2012 OSU, and hey, that's pretty good!
Will take
Yep!
Throw in a blow out bowl victory over some poop Big 10 team and you've got yourself nice little season right there.
Yay or nay to playing Nebraska in the Heart of Dallas Bowl?
I'll say Yay, but it will be in the BWW Bowl as we roll in the game to go 9-4 on the season
yes, agreed
:thumbs:
Would love to go back to AZ
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I want the Alamo Bowl so hard. I <3 San Antonio
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I want the Alamo Bowl so hard. I <3 San Antonio
The Riverwalk is nice. Kind of has a small city feeling despite being pretty large.
Q for people w/ HFBIQ: Since so many teams run the spread in the Big XII, would it at all make sense for the coaching staff to consider using the 4-2-5 as the new base defense?
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I want the Alamo Bowl so hard. I <3 San Antonio
The Riverwalk is nice. Kind of has a small city feeling despite being pretty large.
Q for people w/ HFBIQ: Since so many teams run the spread in the Big XII, would it at all make sense for the coaching staff to consider using the 4-2-5 as the new base defense?
Yeah.. But probs not to Snyder.
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I want the Alamo Bowl so hard. I <3 San Antonio
The Riverwalk is nice. Kind of has a small city feeling despite being pretty large.
Q for people w/ HFBIQ: Since so many teams run the spread in the Big XII, would it at all make sense for the coaching staff to consider using the 4-2-5 as the new base defense?
I mean, there really isn't much difference with what we run and the 4-2-5. Really it is just the alignment of the secondary since we are frequently using 2 linebackers and 5 in the secondary. Randall Evans is pretty much a strong safety type in the nickel back position. IMO the classic 4-2-5 alignment with only one deep safety puts a ton of pressure on that free safety to cover a lot of ground. I think what we do now is better equipped to stop the spread.
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Waters, Sams....
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Waters, Sams....
lol
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I want the Alamo Bowl so hard. I <3 San Antonio
The Riverwalk is nice. Kind of has a small city feeling despite being pretty large.
Q for people w/ HFBIQ: Since so many teams run the spread in the Big XII, would it at all make sense for the coaching staff to consider using the 4-2-5 as the new base defense?
no offense, and maybe it was just a bad day, but I thought the Riverwalk smelled like crap, like septic tank crap :dunno: