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Title: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 04:37:26 PM
I just received my special bowl edition of the Powercat Illustrated magazine, and in an article by Tyler Dreiling, he says that Ell was suspended for the first quarter of that Fiesta Bowl.  I'm pretty sure he started and any number of box scores and things recapping the game seem to confirm. 

What's the deal?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: KazzuKhatz on December 30, 2012, 04:46:42 PM
Yeah he definitely started.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Pendergast on December 30, 2012, 04:51:36 PM
Didn't start, sat out one or two series I thought, but I was pretty young.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 04:52:27 PM
Yeah he definitely started.

How do you explain the Powercat Illustrated article?

I mean, I agree that I can watch my tape of the game and see Ell playing all game, or I can look at the box score and see he played the whole way - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=240020194 - but I must be confusing something because Tyler Dreiling makes it very clear that Ell was suspended for the first quarter.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 04:53:42 PM
Didn't start, sat out one or two series I thought, but I was pretty young.

Hmmm... now we're getting somewhere.  You didn't possibly source Tyler Dreiling's Powercat Illustrated article based on your memory and maybe your mind recalled the event as something in between a 1-quarter suspension or none, and Dreiling possibly misunderstood you?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: yosh on December 30, 2012, 04:54:49 PM
To be fair, his first quarter play was forgetable.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 04:56:40 PM
To be fair, his first quarter play was forgetable.

Yeah, it could be that based on his performance while playing the game, that Tyler Dreiling has retroactively declared him "suspended."  It's certainly one of those gray factual areas.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Pendergast on December 30, 2012, 04:56:42 PM
eff if I know, thought he sat out, guess not.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 04:58:04 PM
eff if I know, thought he sat out, guess not.

Pendergast, how would you like to become goEMAW's lead K-State football "historical feature" writer?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: 8manpick on December 30, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
Quote from: ESPN Play-by-play
Kansas State at 14:54   
1st and 10 at KSU 25   Darren Sproles (KSU) rushed right side for 3 yards.   
2nd and 7 at KSU 28   Ell Roberson (KSU) rushed up the middle for 2 yards.       
3rd and 5 at KSU 30   Ell Roberson (KSU) pass incomplete to the right side.       
4th and 5 at KSU 30   Punt by Jared Brite (KSU) returned 17 yards by Michael Jenkins (OSU) to the Buckeyes 32.       

First drive of the game.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 04:59:07 PM
Quote from: ESPN Play-by-play
Kansas State at 14:54   
1st and 10 at KSU 25   Darren Sproles (KSU) rushed right side for 3 yards.   
2nd and 7 at KSU 28   Ell Roberson (KSU) rushed up the middle for 2 yards.       
3rd and 5 at KSU 30   Ell Roberson (KSU) pass incomplete to the right side.       
4th and 5 at KSU 30   Punt by Jared Brite (KSU) returned 17 yards by Michael Jenkins (OSU) to the Buckeyes 32.       

First drive of the game.

ESPN bias.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Pendergast on December 30, 2012, 04:59:34 PM
eff if I know, thought he sat out, guess not.

Pendergast, how would you like to become goEMAW's lead K-State football "historical feature" writer?

Sounds good, as long as I can continue to make stuff up.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 05:01:45 PM
eff if I know, thought he sat out, guess not.

Pendergast, how would you like to become goEMAW's lead K-State football "historical feature" writer?

Sounds good, as long as I can continue to make stuff up.

Let's start with this - how many football national championships did K-State win in Snyder's first stint at coach?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Pendergast on December 30, 2012, 05:05:14 PM
eff if I know, thought he sat out, guess not.

Pendergast, how would you like to become goEMAW's lead K-State football "historical feature" writer?

Sounds good, as long as I can continue to make stuff up.

Let's start with this - how many football national championships did K-State win in Snyder's first stint at coach?

2, 1998 & 2003

Wait, is this normal style, or aTm style?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 05:09:10 PM
Wait, is this normal style, or aTm style?

It's your story.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: lopakman on December 30, 2012, 05:11:40 PM
Yeah he definitely started.

How do you explain the Powercat Illustrated article?

I mean, I agree that I can watch my tape of the game and see Ell playing all game, or I can look at the box score and see he played the whole way - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=240020194 - but I must be confusing something because Tyler Dreiling makes it very clear that Ell was suspended for the first quarter.

He was suspended the first quater, but Ell is a warrier so he played through that suspension. 
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 05:14:02 PM
Yeah he definitely started.

How do you explain the Powercat Illustrated article?

I mean, I agree that I can watch my tape of the game and see Ell playing all game, or I can look at the box score and see he played the whole way - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=240020194 - but I must be confusing something because Tyler Dreiling makes it very clear that Ell was suspended for the first quarter.

He was suspended the first quater, but Ell is a warrier so he played through that suspension. 

Interesting, maybe he told anybody questioning him playing that he was somebody else.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: one time gella on December 30, 2012, 05:16:26 PM
He was given the choice to sit the 1st quarter or start, but if he started, he lost his scholly, bowl ring and had to walk home from AZ...
That was a long ass walk home and we probably would have been better off if he did sit out the 1st qtr.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: chum1 on December 30, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
I think Fitz reported at the time that Ell would sit out the first quarter of the game.  So, he's probably just stood by his source on that info all this time, which has resulted in the present confusion.

I miss the days when Fitz would make mistake after mistake after mistake.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: star seed 7 on December 30, 2012, 05:20:55 PM
Yeah he definitely started.

How do you explain the Powercat Illustrated article?

I mean, I agree that I can watch my tape of the game and see Ell playing all game, or I can look at the box score and see he played the whole way - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=240020194 - but I must be confusing something because Tyler Dreiling makes it very clear that Ell was suspended for the first quarter.

He was suspended the first quater, but Ell is a warrier so he played through that suspension. 

Interesting, maybe he told anybody questioning him playing that he was somebody else.

who would he say he was though?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 05:24:36 PM
Yeah he definitely started.

How do you explain the Powercat Illustrated article?

I mean, I agree that I can watch my tape of the game and see Ell playing all game, or I can look at the box score and see he played the whole way - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=240020194 - but I must be confusing something because Tyler Dreiling makes it very clear that Ell was suspended for the first quarter.

He was suspended the first quater, but Ell is a warrier so he played through that suspension. 

Interesting, maybe he told anybody questioning him playing that he was somebody else.

who would he say he was though?

"I'm not James McGill."
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 05:25:05 PM
I think Fitz reported at the time that Ell would sit out the first quarter of the game.  So, he's probably just stood by his source on that info all this time, which has resulted in the present confusion.

I miss the days when Fitz would make mistake after mistake after mistake.

Never again will I accuse Fitz of sitting on info.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: wabash909 on December 30, 2012, 05:39:26 PM
The Ghosts of Arizona!

Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 30, 2012, 06:37:45 PM
what did tyler say when confronted on twitter?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
I thought he sat out the first series and threw an INT on our own 10 on the second.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 30, 2012, 07:04:07 PM
You read powercat illustrated?   :lol:
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 30, 2012, 07:08:13 PM
He sat out the first 5 seconds during the kickoff
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2012, 07:08:52 PM
You read powercat illustrated?   :lol:

It comes in the mail.  Regular mail, not email.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on December 30, 2012, 07:11:43 PM
He was suspended for the first quarter so James Mcgill put on an Ell Roberson jersey and took his place.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Donald on December 30, 2012, 08:54:03 PM
He was suspended for the first quarter so James Mcgill put on an Ell Roberson jersey and took his place.

WHO'S YOUR SOURCE!?!?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Legit Elite on December 30, 2012, 09:21:51 PM
He was suspended for the first quarter so James Mcgill put on an Ell Roberson jersey and took his place.

WHO'S YOUR SOURCE!?!?
Prob Neek
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: 'taterblast on December 30, 2012, 11:31:52 PM
A player wearing an Ell Roberson jersey started the game..  :peek:
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: AbeFroman on December 31, 2012, 02:42:08 AM
I bought an Ell Roberson jersey the 2 days before the game  :peek:
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: "storm"nut on December 31, 2012, 07:49:52 AM
Tyler is obviously playing a game of Counterfactuals.
In a world were Ell Roberson the 3rd is suspended during the 1st quarter of the 2004 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, who wins the 2010 Superbowl?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Winters on December 31, 2012, 08:36:48 AM
lol, my word
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: MadCat on December 31, 2012, 09:04:26 AM
Tyler is obviously playing a game of Counterfactuals.
In a world were Ell Roberson the 3rd is suspended during the 1st quarter of the 2004 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, who wins the 2010 Superbowl?
Cheese Danish
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 31, 2012, 09:06:46 AM
People always blame Ell.  But I don't remember Ell giving up 4 TD passes to Craig Krenzel and getting a punt blocked for a TD. 
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: "storm"nut on December 31, 2012, 09:30:02 AM
Tyler is obviously playing a game of Counterfactuals.
In a world were Ell Roberson the 3rd is suspended during the 1st quarter of the 2004 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, who wins the 2010 Superbowl?
Cheese Danish

Defend
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: MadCat on December 31, 2012, 01:00:11 PM
Tyler is obviously playing a game of Counterfactuals.
In a world were Ell Roberson the 3rd is suspended during the 1st quarter of the 2004 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, who wins the 2010 Superbowl?
Cheese Danish

Defend
Defense: A disgusted EMAW fan in NYC throws their Tostitos queso jar out in the street.  Said jar falls into the sewer where it bumps some innocent turtles out of the path of some mutagen.  The mutagen transforms the queso into a sentient being hellbent on destroying the Earth.  However, the infantile queso monster is mistakenly blended into the nutritional supplements of the NY Jets franchise.  The Jets consume the contaminated supplements and their DNA is transformed into that of a cheese danish.  The Jets timeline continues as normal but their newfound powers prove to be the catalyst for victories over the Steelers in the 2010 AFC championship and the Packers in the 2010 Superbowl.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: "storm"nut on December 31, 2012, 01:09:14 PM
Tyler is obviously playing a game of Counterfactuals.
In a world were Ell Roberson the 3rd is suspended during the 1st quarter of the 2004 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, who wins the 2010 Superbowl?
Cheese Danish

Defend
Defense: A disgusted EMAW fan in NYC throws their Tostitos queso jar out in the street.  Said jar falls into the sewer where it bumps some innocent turtles out of the path of some mutagen.  The mutagen transforms the queso into a sentient being hellbent on destroying the Earth.  However, the infantile queso monster is mistakenly blended into the nutritional supplements of the NY Jets franchise.  The Jets consume the contaminated supplements and their DNA is transformed into that of a cheese danish.  The Jets timeline continues as normal but their newfound powers prove to be the catalyst for victories over the Steelers in the 2010 AFC championship and the Packers in the 2010 Superbowl.

Correct. Would have also taken the 1985 Bears.
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: lopakman on December 31, 2012, 01:15:18 PM
Tyler is obviously playing a game of Counterfactuals.
In a world were Ell Roberson the 3rd is suspended during the 1st quarter of the 2004 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, who wins the 2010 Superbowl?
Cheese Danish

Defend
Defense: A disgusted EMAW fan in NYC throws their Tostitos queso jar out in the street.  Said jar falls into the sewer where it bumps some innocent turtles out of the path of some mutagen.  The mutagen transforms the queso into a sentient being hellbent on destroying the Earth.  However, the infantile queso monster is mistakenly blended into the nutritional supplements of the NY Jets franchise.  The Jets consume the contaminated supplements and their DNA is transformed into that of a cheese danish.  The Jets timeline continues as normal but their newfound powers prove to be the catalyst for victories over the Steelers in the 2010 AFC championship and the Packers in the 2010 Superbowl.

Impossible.  Said mutagen would only enhance Sanchez's abilities to throw more interceptions than anyone thought humanly possible.  Jets go 0-16 and draft Ndamukong Suh with the #1 overall pick, confident that Sanchez will "turn it around." 
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: "storm"nut on December 31, 2012, 01:31:12 PM
Tyler is obviously playing a game of Counterfactuals.
In a world were Ell Roberson the 3rd is suspended during the 1st quarter of the 2004 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, who wins the 2010 Superbowl?
Cheese Danish

Defend
Defense: A disgusted EMAW fan in NYC throws their Tostitos queso jar out in the street.  Said jar falls into the sewer where it bumps some innocent turtles out of the path of some mutagen.  The mutagen transforms the queso into a sentient being hellbent on destroying the Earth.  However, the infantile queso monster is mistakenly blended into the nutritional supplements of the NY Jets franchise.  The Jets consume the contaminated supplements and their DNA is transformed into that of a cheese danish.  The Jets timeline continues as normal but their newfound powers prove to be the catalyst for victories over the Steelers in the 2010 AFC championship and the Packers in the 2010 Superbowl.

Impossible.  Said mutagen would only enhance Sanchez's abilities to throw more interceptions than anyone thought humanly possible.  Jets go 0-16 and draft Ndamukong Suh with the #1 overall pick, confident that Sanchez will "turn it around."

Be serious now, were playing Tyler Drellings presents Gopowercat counterfactuals
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: lopakman on December 31, 2012, 02:53:15 PM
Tyler is obviously playing a game of Counterfactuals.
In a world were Ell Roberson the 3rd is suspended during the 1st quarter of the 2004 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, who wins the 2010 Superbowl?
Cheese Danish

Defend
Defense: A disgusted EMAW fan in NYC throws their Tostitos queso jar out in the street.  Said jar falls into the sewer where it bumps some innocent turtles out of the path of some mutagen.  The mutagen transforms the queso into a sentient being hellbent on destroying the Earth.  However, the infantile queso monster is mistakenly blended into the nutritional supplements of the NY Jets franchise.  The Jets consume the contaminated supplements and their DNA is transformed into that of a cheese danish.  The Jets timeline continues as normal but their newfound powers prove to be the catalyst for victories over the Steelers in the 2010 AFC championship and the Packers in the 2010 Superbowl.

Impossible.  Said mutagen would only enhance Sanchez's abilities to throw more interceptions than anyone thought humanly possible.  Jets go 0-16 and draft Ndamukong Suh with the #1 overall pick, confident that Sanchez will "turn it around."

Be serious now, were playing Tyler Drellings presents Gopowercat counterfactuals

That reminds me of a good joke. What's the difference between Tyler Dreiling and a bucket of crap?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 31, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
The bucket?
Title: Re: Question about Ell Roberson "incident"
Post by: lopakman on December 31, 2012, 04:12:11 PM
The bucket?

Ding Ding!