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EAT A DICK, DAYTON, SETON HALL, PENN STATE AND TOWNSON!
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http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=842.msg699884#msg699884
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Jevon-Thomas-114634
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I think Thomas is about the absolute best we could get at this stage in the recruiting process. I'm pumped about the offensive creativity that I think he bring to our team.
Way to bring Jevon home Coach Chester and staff!
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EAT A DICK PENN STATE
umm....Pete.
HR needs to see you
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From Bossi
These 10 Are Generating Heat....
Jevon Thomas: A native New Yorker, Thomas has been well traveled and has been committed to Dayton and St. John's at different times during his prep career. A 6-footer with exceptional quickness, Thomas looks to be turning the corner at Delafield (Wis.) St. John's Northwest Military Academy, and high-major programs are again starting to poke around on his recruitment.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1449767
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I didn't realize we completely lost Underdog to GPC. Doesn't feel great.
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I didn't realize we completely lost Underdog to GPC. Doesn't feel great.
Yeah
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Nice get.
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I didn't realize we completely lost Underdog to GPC. Doesn't feel great.
He's a oscar supporter. He didn't feel comfortable here with all the oscar bashing, I presume. I wish he'd come back too.
I mean, I think he'd do more good over here...if he could stomach the animosity for oscar. I should also say that I am one of the one's he probably takes issue with, since I am no fan of oscar. :frown:
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Nice get.
Ya. Doesn't look too bad. Loads better than Will Spradling, for example.
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Nice get.
Ya. Doesn't look too bad. Loads better than Will Spradling, for example.
Can I just say that someone should be shot for making Will our yardstick?
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Nice get.
Ya. Doesn't look too bad. Loads better than Will Spradling, for example.
Can I just say that someone should be shot for making Will our yardstick?
I vote Shannon.
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I didn't realize we completely lost Underdog to GPC. Doesn't feel great.
He's a oscar supporter. He didn't feel comfortable here with all the oscar bashing, I presume. I wish he'd come back too.
I mean, I think he'd do more good over here...if he could stomach the animosity for oscar. I should also say that I am one of the one's he probably takes issue with, since I am no fan of oscar. :frown:
he always said he was a k-state supporter, which in the minds of some of the more fervent #BiD's equates to the same thing as being a weber supporter. in other words, i think he was alienated here because i think his position aligned with CC's so he took his ball and went home.
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UW to GPC is a better get than J. Thomas to KSU.
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I didn't realize we completely lost Underdog to GPC. Doesn't feel great.
He's a oscar supporter. He didn't feel comfortable here with all the oscar bashing, I presume. I wish he'd come back too.
I mean, I think he'd do more good over here...if he could stomach the animosity for oscar. I should also say that I am one of the one's he probably takes issue with, since I am no fan of oscar. :frown:
he always said he was a k-state supporter, which in the minds of some of the more fervent #BiD's equates to the same thing as being a weber supporter. in other words, i think he was alienated here because i think his position aligned with CC's so he took his ball and went home.
I spoke with him a couple times about it. It wasn't that he was a Weber supporter, it was that every time he posted something he felt was positive, people would crush it with negativity, especially on recruiting news. Said it made it not fun, and therefore not worth the time.
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UW to GPC is a better get than J. Thomas to KSU.
:lol:
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Seriously, it does stink losing the info that UW brings on basketball recruiting....he's a good poster.
However, that loss is mitigated by the crap recruiting that oscar Weber will bring us....it's like not having an electron microscope to view your own feces.
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UW to GPC is a better get than J. Thomas to KSU.
:lol:
Yeah, it provides some legitimacy to the board re: recruiting now when they had little or none before. Big get for them.
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I didn't realize we completely lost Underdog to GPC. Doesn't feel great.
He's a oscar supporter. He didn't feel comfortable here with all the oscar bashing, I presume. I wish he'd come back too.
I mean, I think he'd do more good over here...if he could stomach the animosity for oscar. I should also say that I am one of the one's he probably takes issue with, since I am no fan of oscar. :frown:
he always said he was a k-state supporter, which in the minds of some of the more fervent #BiD's equates to the same thing as being a weber supporter. in other words, i think he was alienated here because i think his position aligned with CC's so he took his ball and went home.
I spoke with him a couple times about it. It wasn't that he was a Weber supporter, it was that every time he posted something he felt was positive, people would crush it with negativity, especially on recruiting news. Said it made it not fun, and therefore not worth the time.
I can relate.
Some of us simply like to talk K-State basketball in spite of how disappointed we are with the coach and the hire. I get the #burnitdown mantra, but this has become a #burnitdown board and its very difficult to have any tangible basketball discussion before it turns into another "oscar Weber sucks" thread.
I'm not going anywhere, but I haven't posted about K-State basketball nearly as much and probably won't.
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He looks really small.
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I didn't realize we completely lost Underdog to GPC. Doesn't feel great.
He's a oscar supporter. He didn't feel comfortable here with all the oscar bashing, I presume. I wish he'd come back too.
I mean, I think he'd do more good over here...if he could stomach the animosity for oscar. I should also say that I am one of the one's he probably takes issue with, since I am no fan of oscar. :frown:
he always said he was a k-state supporter, which in the minds of some of the more fervent #BiD's equates to the same thing as being a weber supporter. in other words, i think he was alienated here because i think his position aligned with CC's so he took his ball and went home.
I spoke with him a couple times about it. It wasn't that he was a Weber supporter, it was that every time he posted something he felt was positive, people would crush it with negativity, especially on recruiting news. Said it made it not fun, and therefore not worth the time.
I can relate.
Some of us simply like to talk K-State basketball in spite of how disappointed we are with the coach and the hire. I get the #burnitdown mantra, but this has become a #burnitdown board and its very difficult to have any tangible basketball discussion before it turns into another "oscar Weber sucks" thread.
I'm not going anywhere, but I haven't posted about K-State basketball nearly as much and probably won't.
I understand, but you can count on one hand the things/events/etc that you have had reason to be optimistic about since oscar got here. You really haven't given up a lot thus far, right?
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I didn't realize we completely lost Underdog to GPC. Doesn't feel great.
He's a oscar supporter. He didn't feel comfortable here with all the oscar bashing, I presume. I wish he'd come back too.
I mean, I think he'd do more good over here...if he could stomach the animosity for oscar. I should also say that I am one of the one's he probably takes issue with, since I am no fan of oscar. :frown:
he always said he was a k-state supporter, which in the minds of some of the more fervent #BiD's equates to the same thing as being a weber supporter. in other words, i think he was alienated here because i think his position aligned with CC's so he took his ball and went home.
I spoke with him a couple times about it. It wasn't that he was a Weber supporter, it was that every time he posted something he felt was positive, people would crush it with negativity, especially on recruiting news. Said it made it not fun, and therefore not worth the time.
I can relate.
Some of us simply like to talk K-State basketball in spite of how disappointed we are with the coach and the hire. I get the #burnitdown mantra, but this has become a #burnitdown board and its very difficult to have any tangible basketball discussion before it turns into another "oscar Weber sucks" thread.
I'm not going anywhere, but I haven't posted about K-State basketball nearly as much and probably won't.
In a couple of years, people are going to miss the passion, even the #BiD passion, that accompanied our basketball team from 2006-2012. Getting excited because of mystery recruits from the Ivory Coast, #1 Hoop Scoop recruiting classes, and getting snubbed by the NIT is ok, but it's not really passion. As long as there is passion, there is hope, because it means there are people that still care enough, and think it may pay off, to keep trying to keep expectations high.
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I didn't realize we completely lost Underdog to GPC. Doesn't feel great.
He's a oscar supporter. He didn't feel comfortable here with all the oscar bashing, I presume. I wish he'd come back too.
I mean, I think he'd do more good over here...if he could stomach the animosity for oscar. I should also say that I am one of the one's he probably takes issue with, since I am no fan of oscar. :frown:
he always said he was a k-state supporter, which in the minds of some of the more fervent #BiD's equates to the same thing as being a weber supporter. in other words, i think he was alienated here because i think his position aligned with CC's so he took his ball and went home.
I spoke with him a couple times about it. It wasn't that he was a Weber supporter, it was that every time he posted something he felt was positive, people would crush it with negativity, especially on recruiting news. Said it made it not fun, and therefore not worth the time.
I can relate.
Some of us simply like to talk K-State basketball in spite of how disappointed we are with the coach and the hire. I get the #burnitdown mantra, but this has become a #burnitdown board and its very difficult to have any tangible basketball discussion before it turns into another "oscar Weber sucks" thread.
I'm not going anywhere, but I haven't posted about K-State basketball nearly as much and probably won't.
I understand, but you can count on one hand the things/events/etc that you have had reason to be optimistic about since oscar got here. You really haven't given up a lot thus far, right?
Of course, but the guy is going to be here at least 2 more seasons. I'm going to critique what needs to be critiqued and have done so. This is a soft team that struggles to score and that is largely oscar's responsibility.
Again, I understand the issues that most have with oscar, but I think most of all I don't prefer making it into attacks of players or coaches. I just don't do that.
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"Fire Asbury Now???????"
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"Fire Asbury Now???????"
It never was personal, it was time for him to go and it was realistic to fire him. Right now it's not realistic and he doesn't deserve it for what he's done at K-State this season. Yet.
I'll admit I'm more patient than most. And I'll admit that wanting Asbury fired may seem absurd compared to supporting Wooly as long as I did, but I never felt Wooly quit on K-State like Asbury did.
Some of it is probably changing with age as well.
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We'll hold the ksu_FWN username for you.
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I didn't realize we completely lost Underdog to GPC. Doesn't feel great.
He's a oscar supporter. He didn't feel comfortable here with all the oscar bashing, I presume. I wish he'd come back too.
I mean, I think he'd do more good over here...if he could stomach the animosity for oscar. I should also say that I am one of the one's he probably takes issue with, since I am no fan of oscar. :frown:
he always said he was a k-state supporter, which in the minds of some of the more fervent #BiD's equates to the same thing as being a weber supporter. in other words, i think he was alienated here because i think his position aligned with CC's so he took his ball and went home.
I spoke with him a couple times about it. It wasn't that he was a Weber supporter, it was that every time he posted something he felt was positive, people would crush it with negativity, especially on recruiting news. Said it made it not fun, and therefore not worth the time.
I can relate.
Some of us simply like to talk K-State basketball in spite of how disappointed we are with the coach and the hire. I get the #burnitdown mantra, but this has become a #burnitdown board and its very difficult to have any tangible basketball discussion before it turns into another "oscar Weber sucks" thread.
I'm not going anywhere, but I haven't posted about K-State basketball nearly as much and probably won't.
this isn't the first time pete has heard this take, it sums up pretty much exactly how i feel, as well. but, #BiD is gonna #BiD.
back on topic- weber just recruited his fred brown. will oscar frank him or oscar him?
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We'll hold the ksu_FWN username for you.
Thanks.
One more thing, I watch games less as a "fan" now than I used to. I coach myself, so I suppose I'm more sympathetic with coaches than most and I watch the game at times with that perspective and I think that affects how I react to things.
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Of course, but the guy is going to be here at least 2 more seasons. I'm going to critique what needs to be critiqued and have done so. This is a soft team that struggles to score and that is largely oscar's responsibility.
Again, I understand the issues that most have with oscar, but I think most of all I don't prefer making it into attacks of players or coaches. I just don't do that.
I'm not a fan of attacking the players. But attacking the coach is fair game. He's making millions of dollars on salary, and he's ruining something we love.
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SUCK IT HATERS
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"Fire Asbury Now???????"
It never was personal, it was time for him to go and it was realistic to fire him.
That's my issue. I don't contribute much (if anything) to this board, but the constant screaming for oscar's head, now, is really annoying, IMO. There's nothing we can do about it, and we're at least 18-24 months away from his seat even getting relatively warm.
John Currie isn't going to fire his first coach in less than three years, and even then, it's unlikely he'll do it in less than four. We're probably at least three or more years away from anything actionable taking place with oscar Weber.
And these players he's bringing in aren't bad. They're fringe 150 players. So, he's probably going to win enough to ride out four years and then Currie will have to make the decision to extend or fire.
So, #BiD folks are just going to have to live with it for a while.
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Of course, but the guy is going to be here at least 2 more seasons. I'm going to critique what needs to be critiqued and have done so. This is a soft team that struggles to score and that is largely oscar's responsibility.
Again, I understand the issues that most have with oscar, but I think most of all I don't prefer making it into attacks of players or coaches. I just don't do that.
I'm not a fan of attacking the players. But attacking the coach is fair game. He's making millions of dollars on salary, and he's ruining something we love.
currie ruined it, shultz ruined it. weber? -it was ruined before he got here and i can't blame the schmuck for taking advantage of two dolts that he's somehow intellectually superior to, to the tune of $2m per.
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I like Jevon Thomas, and I'm glad he's coming to K-State. FWIW.
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I like Jevon Thomas, and I'm glad he's coming to K-State. FWIW.
YES! ME TOO!
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"Fire Asbury Now???????"
It never was personal, it was time for him to go and it was realistic to fire him.
That's my issue. I don't contribute much (if anything) to this board, but the constant screaming for oscar's head, now, is really annoying, IMO. There's nothing we can do about it, and we're at least 18-24 months away from his seat even getting relatively warm.
John Currie isn't going to fire his first coach in less than three years, and even then, it's unlikely he'll do it in less than four. We're probably at least three or more years away from anything actionable taking place with oscar Weber.
And these players he's bringing in aren't bad. They're fringe 150 players. So, he's probably going to win enough to ride out four years and then Currie will have to make the decision to extend or fire.
So, #BiD folks are just going to have to live with it for a while.
I understand this, but it is taking me a while to get my emotions about this to come around, not just because of what we have, but because of the realistic timetable.
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"Fire Asbury Now???????"
It never was personal, it was time for him to go and it was realistic to fire him.
That's my issue. I don't contribute much (if anything) to this board, but the constant screaming for oscar's head, now, is really annoying, IMO. There's nothing we can do about it, and we're at least 18-24 months away from his seat even getting relatively warm.
John Currie isn't going to fire his first coach in less than three years, and even then, it's unlikely he'll do it in less than four. We're probably at least three or more years away from anything actionable taking place with oscar Weber.
And these players he's bringing in aren't bad. They're fringe 150 players. So, he's probably going to win enough to ride out four years and then Currie will have to make the decision to extend or fire.
So, #BiD folks are just going to have to live with it for a while.
Do the "oscar sucks" posts get tiring? I'm sure they do. Everyone on here has the message by now. I don't think beating the drum on places like Twitter is necessarily unproductive, however. Pre-heating the hot seat may wind up saving us a third or fourth or fifth year that oscar might otherwise get if people weren't so steamed by the hire from the start. I'm sure it sucks getting it all the time if you're Currie or the Prez or @kstatesports, but tough patooties, fellas: you made this bed with your godawful hire.
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I understand this, but it is taking me a while to get my emotions about this to come around, not just because of what we have, but because of the realistic timetable.
Hence why I support Fire Currie posts wholeheartedly.
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I understand this, but it is taking me a while to get my emotions about this to come around, not just because of what we have, but because of the realistic timetable.
Hence why I support Fire Currie posts wholeheartedly.
Yeah, JC is the needed change. fully agree. Prob is that he is here until he chooses to leave. Everyone except half of this board and LHC Bill Snyder absolutely love the man.
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Pre-heating the hot seat may wind up saving us a third or fourth or fifth year that oscar might otherwise get if people weren't so steamed by the hire from the start. I'm sure it sucks getting it all the time if you're Currie or the Prez or @kstatesports, but tough patooties, fellas: you made this bed with your godawful hire.
Unless oscar commits a criminal act, he's getting a fourth year. There is absolutely no way Currie will fire him until he has to do so.
Look at it form Currie's perspective. Young, upcomer of an AD hires a guy who he feels was "wrongly" removed at Illinois. If Weber succeeds, feather in his cap. If he fails, he will blame it on Martin leaving a mess.
But to blame it on Martin, and not simply a bad hire, he's going to have to give oscar every chance to turn it around.
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Pre-heating the hot seat may wind up saving us a third or fourth or fifth year that oscar might otherwise get if people weren't so steamed by the hire from the start. I'm sure it sucks getting it all the time if you're Currie or the Prez or @kstatesports, but tough patooties, fellas: you made this bed with your godawful hire.
Unless oscar commits a criminal act, he's getting a fourth year. There is absolutely no way Currie will fire him until he has to do so.
Look at it form Currie's perspective. Young, upcomer of an AD hires a guy who he feels was "wrongly" removed at Illinois. If Weber succeeds, feather in his cap. If he fails, he will blame it on Martin leaving a mess.
But to blame it on Martin, and not simply a bad hire, he's going to have to give oscar every chance to turn it around.
Silver lining is that 5yrs from now, we may be top ten with our new coach, illini style
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Pre-heating the hot seat may wind up saving us a third or fourth or fifth year that oscar might otherwise get if people weren't so steamed by the hire from the start. I'm sure it sucks getting it all the time if you're Currie or the Prez or @kstatesports, but tough patooties, fellas: you made this bed with your godawful hire.
Unless oscar commits a criminal act, he's getting a fourth year. There is absolutely no way Currie will fire him until he has to do so.
Look at it form Currie's perspective. Young, upcomer of an AD hires a guy who he feels was "wrongly" removed at Illinois. If Weber succeeds, feather in his cap. If he fails, he will blame it on Martin leaving a mess.
But to blame it on Martin, and not simply a bad hire, he's going to have to give oscar every chance to turn it around.
if he misses the tourny three consecutive seasons out of the gate he'll be fired.
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Pre-heating the hot seat may wind up saving us a third or fourth or fifth year that oscar might otherwise get if people weren't so steamed by the hire from the start. I'm sure it sucks getting it all the time if you're Currie or the Prez or @kstatesports, but tough patooties, fellas: you made this bed with your godawful hire.
Unless oscar commits a criminal act, he's getting a fourth year. There is absolutely no way Currie will fire him until he has to do so.
Look at it form Currie's perspective. Young, upcomer of an AD hires a guy who he feels was "wrongly" removed at Illinois. If Weber succeeds, feather in his cap. If he fails, he will blame it on Martin leaving a mess.
But to blame it on Martin, and not simply a bad hire, he's going to have to give oscar every chance to turn it around.
if he misses the tourny three consecutive seasons out of the gate he'll be fired.
Given what we did last season and how few we graduated, it should be two in a row.
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Pre-heating the hot seat may wind up saving us a third or fourth or fifth year that oscar might otherwise get if people weren't so steamed by the hire from the start. I'm sure it sucks getting it all the time if you're Currie or the Prez or @kstatesports, but tough patooties, fellas: you made this bed with your godawful hire.
Unless oscar commits a criminal act, he's getting a fourth year. There is absolutely no way Currie will fire him until he has to do so.
Look at it form Currie's perspective. Young, upcomer of an AD hires a guy who he feels was "wrongly" removed at Illinois. If Weber succeeds, feather in his cap. If he fails, he will blame it on Martin leaving a mess.
But to blame it on Martin, and not simply a bad hire, he's going to have to give oscar every chance to turn it around.
if he misses the tourny three consecutive seasons out of the gate he'll be fired.
Given what we did last season and how few we graduated, it should be two in a row.
Anyone who's not a complete dumbass with crap for brains would fire him after two in a row, I'm saying that John Currie will fire him after 3 in a row.
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John isn't going to be around to have to fire oscar I thought this was well established.
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John isn't going to be around to have to fire oscar I thought this was well established.
after this hire his stock as a viable AD candidate somewhere else has fallen off a cliff. we are probably stuck with his dumbass.
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Pre-heating the hot seat may wind up saving us a third or fourth or fifth year that oscar might otherwise get if people weren't so steamed by the hire from the start. I'm sure it sucks getting it all the time if you're Currie or the Prez or @kstatesports, but tough patooties, fellas: you made this bed with your godawful hire.
Unless oscar commits a criminal act, he's getting a fourth year. There is absolutely no way Currie will fire him until he has to do so.
Look at it form Currie's perspective. Young, upcomer of an AD hires a guy who he feels was "wrongly" removed at Illinois. If Weber succeeds, feather in his cap. If he fails, he will blame it on Martin leaving a mess.
But to blame it on Martin, and not simply a bad hire, he's going to have to give oscar every chance to turn it around.
if he misses the tourny three consecutive seasons out of the gate he'll be fired.
Maybe. No data with Currie yet to know for sure. I guess I'm just trying to look at this from the most pure CYA stance that Currie can take and work form there.
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John isn't going to be around to have to fire oscar I thought this was well established.
after this hire his stock as a viable AD candidate somewhere else has fallen off a cliff. we are probably stuck with his dumbass.
If he turned down Clemson to stay here, yes, we're probably stuck with him if he hires as poorly as his limited history suggests.
Unless he takes a conference job somewhere, which is what I personally think we should all be rooting for. Maybe send Bowlsby a gift basket?
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Last player we stole from St John's turned out to be totally awesome.
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Maybe send Bowlsby a gift basket?
I'm in! Who's collecting the $$, Pan? Make sure the card is signed, "your biggest fan, JC (p.s. BOLD move on sitting tight during realignment!)"
Back on topic, is this Thomas kid a lock or with this late breaking interest is he as good as gone elsewhere? I don't want to check him out unless there's a reasonable expectation he'll be in Manhappiness next year. Oh, UW, we miss you.
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i'm glad uw is gone. never liked him and always thought he was stupid. i hope thomas will be talking art's place next year.
this board was not burnitdown until the last couple of games. it was pretty evenly split before. if the team puts a few wins together, it'll be split again.
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i'm glad uw is gone. never liked him and always thought he was stupid. i hope thomas will be talking art's place next year.
this board was not burnitdown until the last couple of games. it was pretty evenly split before. if the team puts a few wins together, it'll be split again.
Subtle implications of transfer are exactly the type of stuff we need to keep the bbs'ing fun around here.
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Pre-heating the hot seat may wind up saving us a third or fourth or fifth year that oscar might otherwise get if people weren't so steamed by the hire from the start. I'm sure it sucks getting it all the time if you're Currie or the Prez or @kstatesports, but tough patooties, fellas: you made this bed with your godawful hire.
Unless oscar commits a criminal act, he's getting a fourth year. There is absolutely no way Currie will fire him until he has to do so.
Look at it form Currie's perspective. Young, upcomer of an AD hires a guy who he feels was "wrongly" removed at Illinois. If Weber succeeds, feather in his cap. If he fails, he will blame it on Martin leaving a mess.
But to blame it on Martin, and not simply a bad hire, he's going to have to give oscar every chance to turn it around.
if he misses the tourny three consecutive seasons out of the gate he'll be fired.
Given what we did last season and how few we graduated, it should be two in a row.
Anyone who's not a complete dumbass with crap for brains would fire him after two in a row, I'm saying that John Currie will fire him after 3 in a row.
Agreed. Well put.
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I haven't posted about K-State basketball nearly as much and probably won't.
That's not the board's fault, that's oscar Weber's.
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i'm glad uw is gone. never liked him and always thought he was stupid. i hope thomas will be talking art's place next year.
this board was not burnitdown until the last couple of games. it was pretty evenly split before. if the team puts a few wins together, it'll be split again.
He was really good on keeping us up to date on recruiting, even if you didn't care for his take on the recruits.
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DAYTON
Oh, and the last guy we beat out Dayton for ended up being pretty good.
:gocho:
Go oscar!
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DAYTON
Oh, and the last guy we beat out Dayton for ended up being pretty good.
:gocho:
Go oscar!
Oh man!!!
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"Fire Asbury Now???????"
It never was personal, it was time for him to go and it was realistic to fire him.
That's my issue. I don't contribute much (if anything) to this board, but the constant screaming for oscar's head, now, is really annoying, IMO. There's nothing we can do about it, and we're at least 18-24 months away from his seat even getting relatively warm.
John Currie isn't going to fire his first coach in less than three years, and even then, it's unlikely he'll do it in less than four. We're probably at least three or more years away from anything actionable taking place with oscar Weber.
And these players he's bringing in aren't bad. They're fringe 150 players. So, he's probably going to win enough to ride out four years and then Currie will have to make the decision to extend or fire.
So, #BiD folks are just going to have to live with it for a while.
His seat is warm already, and there is no way he will get a chance to miss 4 NCAA tournaments, you are out of your mind. Bringing in fringe top 150 recruits won't cut it if he isn't winning and the basketball revenues tank. This is not 2004 athletic departments cannot afford to sit back and wait and hope while mens basketball is eating up more than its taking in.
Also not posting because you are annoyed by a prevalent mantra is stupid. Its a message board, there are always trolls, there are always mantras. We've had threads and talking points derailed since the inception of this board, its the nature of such things. I liked UW, but he is sorry crybaby for quitting because some people disagreed with him. I spent the last 5 winters angerely defending Frank Martin. And _FAN you know full well basketball discussions being derailed is nothing new.
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"Fire Asbury Now???????"
It never was personal, it was time for him to go and it was realistic to fire him.
That's my issue. I don't contribute much (if anything) to this board, but the constant screaming for oscar's head, now, is really annoying, IMO. There's nothing we can do about it, and we're at least 18-24 months away from his seat even getting relatively warm.
John Currie isn't going to fire his first coach in less than three years, and even then, it's unlikely he'll do it in less than four. We're probably at least three or more years away from anything actionable taking place with oscar Weber.
And these players he's bringing in aren't bad. They're fringe 150 players. So, he's probably going to win enough to ride out four years and then Currie will have to make the decision to extend or fire.
So, #BiD folks are just going to have to live with it for a while.
His seat is warm already, and there is no way he will get a chance to miss 4 NCAA tournaments, you are out of your mind. Bringing in fringe top 150 recruits won't cut it if he isn't winning and the basketball revenues tank. This is not 2004 athletic departments cannot afford to sit back and wait and hope while mens basketball is eating up more than its taking in.
Also not posting because you are annoyed by a prevalent mantra is stupid. Its a message board, there are always trolls, there are always mantras. We've had threads and talking points derailed since the inception of this board, its the nature of such things. I liked UW, but he is sorry crybaby for quitting because some people disagreed with him. I spent the last 5 winters angerely defending Frank Martin. And _FAN you know full well basketball discussions being derailed is nothing new.
I like to think of this board like a series of checks and balances. All of us at some point have made shirt tuck points, and we get called on it. Others take it too far to the #burnitdown crowd, and they get called on that as well.
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"Fire Asbury Now???????"
It never was personal, it was time for him to go and it was realistic to fire him.
That's my issue. I don't contribute much (if anything) to this board, but the constant screaming for oscar's head, now, is really annoying, IMO. There's nothing we can do about it, and we're at least 18-24 months away from his seat even getting relatively warm.
John Currie isn't going to fire his first coach in less than three years, and even then, it's unlikely he'll do it in less than four. We're probably at least three or more years away from anything actionable taking place with oscar Weber.
And these players he's bringing in aren't bad. They're fringe 150 players. So, he's probably going to win enough to ride out four years and then Currie will have to make the decision to extend or fire.
So, #BiD folks are just going to have to live with it for a while.
His seat is warm already, and there is no way he will get a chance to miss 4 NCAA tournaments, you are out of your mind. Bringing in fringe top 150 recruits won't cut it if he isn't winning and the basketball revenues tank. This is not 2004 athletic departments cannot afford to sit back and wait and hope while mens basketball is eating up more than its taking in.
Also not posting because you are annoyed by a prevalent mantra is stupid. Its a message board, there are always trolls, there are always mantras. We've had threads and talking points derailed since the inception of this board, its the nature of such things. I liked UW, but he is sorry crybaby for quitting because some people disagreed with him. I spent the last 5 winters angerely defending Frank Martin. And _FAN you know full well basketball discussions being derailed is nothing new.
My hope is that the shiny new BTF will shorten the leash on Weber from what Currie would otherwise want to give him.
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happy about Jevon. sad about UW.
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He was really good on keeping us up to date on recruiting, even if you didn't care for his take on the recruits.
yeah. i liked that a lot back when martin was kstate's coach. now that weber is our coach, i don't care about kstate's recruiting, so it wasn't useful any more.
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He was really good on keeping us up to date on recruiting, even if you didn't care for his take on the recruits.
yeah. i liked that a lot back when martin was kstate's coach. now that weber is our coach, i don't care about kstate's recruiting, so it wasn't useful any more.
I used to love the recruiting threads, then as soon as Weber got hired, I'd read them and be like, "Would take!" Then I'd get really sad thinking about how he recruited pretty well to Illinois, but still ran it into the ground. So my mind could not get excited about the player anymore. I would just skip the threads, and check in every few weeks.
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I don't think me burning it down here or on twitter is going to make Currie and/or Webber get fired. But it feels good. I hate them for what they took from us, and I'm going to butthurt or whatever about it all the time, even if it's redundant. Maybe it'll play a small role in either one of them hating being at K-State so much that they'll voluntarily leave sooner than later.
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He'll also have a shorter leash because of his history. Even his most ardent defenders know what he's done. When the defense is "give him a chance" he's already on shaky ground.
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He'll also have a shorter leash because of his history. Even his most ardent defenders know what he's done. When the defense is "give him a chance" he's already on shaky ground.
Logically you should be right, but I'm not sure Currie feels that way. I honestly think he views Weber as a "big name" that WENT TO THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AND NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED IN HIS CAREER THAT MATTERS!
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He'll also have a shorter leash because of his history. Even his most ardent defenders know what he's done. When the defense is "give him a chance" he's already on shaky ground.
Logically you should be right, but I'm not sure Currie feels that way. I honestly think he views Weber as a "big name" that WENT TO THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AND NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED IN HIS CAREER THAT MATTERS!
Not Currie's decision. He'll give his pet project plenty of rope, we the people, all of us, will eventually make the decision for him. He's a dollar and cents driven guy, you can spin numbers publicly, privately they scream. You think the people that contributed to the BTF after sitting on their wallets for years are going to just stroll through the park blissfully whistling when their investment, K-State Basketball, depreciates?
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Not Currie's decision. He'll give his pet project plenty of rope, we the people, all of us, will eventually make the decision for him. He's a dollar and cents driven guy, you can spin numbers publicly, privately they scream. You think the people that contributed to the BTF after sitting on their wallets for years are going to just stroll through the park blissfully whistling when their investment, K-State Basketball, depreciates?
Apparently not...
My hope is that the shiny new BTF will shorten the leash on Weber from what Currie would otherwise want to give him.
...but that doesn't mean Currie won't try to give him a longer leash. The people will ultimately rule the day, sure, but the AD has enough power to resist the trend for a time if he chooses.
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EAT A DICK PENN STATE
umm....Pete.
HR needs to see you
DNR thread, but pete's profanity is one of this sites many treasures.
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seems people like to point out (in)ability to dunk in games. this little guy can. :alleyoop:
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WELCOME NEW STUD RECRUIT!!!!
comeback UW, I like to read what you have to say about STUD's like this.
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I hope nobody plans on being in the NCAA Tourney every year if we keep getting guys like Jevon to lead our offense.
I don't blame this on Weber, this is all on Spradling. He has done this to our program. If he worked as hard to get a new HC as he does on his acne, he'd look like Zack Morris.
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Interesting Thread I stumbled across.
Bwebbs probably wins the thread.
I hope nobody plans on being in the NCAA Tourney every year if we keep getting guys like Jevon to lead our offense.
I don't blame this on Weber, this is all on Spradling. He has done this to our program. If he worked as hard to get a new HC as he does on his acne, he'd look like Zack Morris.