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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: ZappaCat on December 20, 2012, 09:41:16 AM
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Anybody catch Matt Doherty on 810?
He said that oscar Weber is getting every bit of talent out of this K-State team this year.
oscar is a great coach and Frank didn't leave him with any talent.
He also threw McGruder under the bus and said he wasn't a good player or athlete and shouldn't have questioned Weber's offense earlier in the year.
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well Matt Doherty is a model for extracting every bit from your players.
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Losers stick up for each other.
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The coaching frat lives oscar because he provides all loser coaches hope.
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Matt laid out perfectly the party line you will hear out of oscar/currie. It's no surprise matt has watched practice and talked with oscar, which is to say he got the inside scoop from oscar on all the reasons oscar can't win. Matt also said we lost a lot of scoring from last year.
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Losers stick up for each other.
Yep.
Guy was pretty unprofessional. When asked if we have a chance against Fl, he openly laughed like it was him talking to some buddies at a bar about losers playing Goliath. Don't get me wrong, I agree about our chances, but his reaction as someone who is paid for their perspective of the game was the issue. Also, should note that 810 spent some time awkwardly dancing around the details of his interview after it was over. Stated how every other analyst has a different opinion.
Doherty basically gave the tucks exactly what they want, an "official opinion" that provides the perfect excuse to have Bubbles fail and it be ok for a couple seasons.
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TO TWITTER!
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Matt laid out perfectly the party line you will hear out of oscar/currie. It's no surprise matt has watched practice and talked with oscar, which is to say he got the inside scoop from oscar on all the reasons oscar can't win. Matt also said we lost a lot of scoring from last year.
I know, he really doesn't remember what type of team this was last year.
The entire same team from last year minus Jam Sam went to the old 2nd round of the tourney (new 3rd rd) and the coaching master mind has to work his magic on this team just to make them an average team.
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TO TWITTER!
Been there. did a string that made me look like a scorned drunk lover.
This season sucks.
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matt has awful yellow disgusting teeth
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...Matt also said we lost a lot of scoring from last year.
Wow, he's a bigger dumbass than I thought. :jerk:
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1. From now on, Matt Doherty will be oscar's puppet.
2. Those that cheer for oscar are admitting that you cannot recruit to Manhattan and accept a loser's mentality.
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Matt laid out perfectly the party line you will hear out of oscar/currie. It's no surprise matt has watched practice and talked with oscar, which is to say he got the inside scoop from oscar on all the reasons oscar can't win. Matt also said we lost a lot of scoring from last year.
ridiculous. this no talent team minus jamar was an 8 seed last year and had multiple wins over top 20 teams. but like you said, he's a recently fired friend of weber who was given his marching instructions and apparently carried them out.
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When asked what it meant that frank was so successful with this team last season, that is when he said we graduated some scorers.
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The coaching frat lives oscar because he provides all loser coaches hope.
He also said oscar would recruit within the rules.
Later he talked about how Huggs had an “underground” pipeline to DC.
And the talent had all moved on from this team.
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Oh man, and his tone and how he laid out the "underground railroad" was hugely implying cheating.
Also, very :opcat:
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Props to Steven St. John for not believing the lies.
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The lesson here is that it's clear Frank was an x's and o's master, just like everyone always thought.
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What the hell... Was Jamar a lottery pick, and I just missed it? This is the same BS that will keep Weber here through numerous underachieving seasons
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The lesson here is that it's clear Frank was an x's and o's master, just like everyone always thought.
This!
Frank did more with less than almost anyone.
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Props to Steven St. John for not believing the lies.
what'd he do, blatantly call Doherty out after he hung up?
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FWIW, I think Matt Doughehheherety was someone Gottlieb mentioned as a person he would consider as an assistant were he hired at K-State, right? I'm thinking of that 810 interview a day or two before it all came crashing down and we were given oscar Fracking Weber.
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Props to Steven St. John for not believing the lies.
what'd he do, blatantly call Doherty out after he hung up?
More or less. Went through last year's record, and the roster etc. Said he hadn't heard ANYONE saying we have no talent.
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FWIW, I think Matt Doughehheherety was someone Gottlieb mentioned as a person he would consider as an assistant were he hired at K-State, right? I'm thinking of that 810 interview a day or two before it all came crashing down and we were given oscar Fracking Weber.
Don't recall other than Doug's bro and dad or friend of dad or something. Eitherway, if Matt Derpderpherty deserves a job coaching, it is as a low level assistant under a no experience start up guy like doug.
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FWIW, I think Matt Doughehheherety was someone Gottlieb mentioned as a person he would consider as an assistant were he hired at K-State, right? I'm thinking of that 810 interview a day or two before it all came crashing down and we were given oscar Fracking Weber.
Man, I was so jacked after that interview. Literally stopped driving and just listened to Gottlieb hit a home run on every question...
"But can you recruit?"
"My Dad was a coach for X number of years, my brother runs one of the biggest recruiting services in california, I know some people"
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FWIW, I think Matt Doughehheherety was someone Gottlieb mentioned as a person he would consider as an assistant were he hired at K-State, right? I'm thinking of that 810 interview a day or two before it all came crashing down and we were given oscar Fracking Weber.
Man, I was so jacked after that interview. Literally stopped driving and just listened to Gottlieb hit a home run on every question...
"But can you recruit?"
"My Dad was a coach for X number of years, my brother runs one of the biggest recruiting services in california, I know some people"
Yeah, I think this was the last time I fistpumped with regard to KSU BB. :sad:
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The only guy I remember doug mentioning by name was the tulsa coach that got fired.
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FWIW, I think Matt Doughehheherety was someone Gottlieb mentioned as a person he would consider as an assistant were he hired at K-State, right? I'm thinking of that 810 interview a day or two before it all came crashing down and we were given oscar Fracking Weber.
Man, I was so jacked after that interview. Literally stopped driving and just listened to Gottlieb hit a home run on every question...
"But can you recruit?"
"My Dad was a coach for X number of years, my brother runs one of the biggest recruiting services in california, I know some people"
Yeah, I think this was the last time I fistpumped with regard to KSU BB. :sad:
Who knew I was only days away from having my basketball EMAW crushed!
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The only guy I remember doug mentioning by name was the tulsa coach that got fired.
Yeah, he really couldn't name guys that were employed.
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This makes me hate oscar Weber even more. Is that possible? Yep.
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So Matt Doherty obviously must think that Frank Martin is an even better coach than oscar Weber, right? I mean how did Frank win with such crap talent? :jerk:
I mean, Doherty is basically doing KU a favor here....build every excuse to keep Bill Self's bitch at Kansas State.
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So Matt Doherty obviously must think that Frank Martin is an even better coach than oscar Weber, right? I mean how did Frank win with such crap talent? :jerk:
I mean, Doherty is basically doing KU a favor here....build every excuse to keep Bill Self's bitch at Kansas State.
St. John asked him that same frank question, setting up a "great coach" response. What he got was "well, I don't remember who they graduated, but they were some scorers." So, no. In one sentence he managed to prove himself Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or ignorant as well as backing oscar and inferring Frank sucks.
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blair kerkoff thinks we're garbage
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So Matt Doherty obviously must think that Frank Martin is an even better coach than oscar Weber, right? I mean how did Frank win with such crap talent? :jerk:
I mean, Doherty is basically doing KU a favor here....build every excuse to keep Bill Self's bitch at Kansas State.
St. John asked him that same frank question, setting up a "great coach" response. What he got was "well, I don't remember who they graduated, but they were some scorers." So, no. In one sentence he managed to prove himself Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or ignorant as well as backing oscar and inferring Frank sucks.
When given an opportunity, Doherty had nothing positive to say about Frank.
He couldn’t stop gushing about Weber, it was sickening.
His credibility was not very good; apparently we have a player named Shannon Spradling.
The more I think about it, “Shannon” is a great name.
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So Matt Doherty obviously must think that Frank Martin is an even better coach than oscar Weber, right? I mean how did Frank win with such crap talent? :jerk:
I mean, Doherty is basically doing KU a favor here....build every excuse to keep Bill Self's bitch at Kansas State.
St. John asked him that same frank question, setting up a "great coach" response. What he got was "well, I don't remember who they graduated, but they were some scorers." So, no. In one sentence he managed to prove himself Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or ignorant as well as backing oscar and inferring Frank sucks.
When given an opportunity, Doherty had nothing positive to say about Frank.
He couldn’t stop gushing about Weber, it was sickening.
His credibility was not very good; apparently we have a player named Shannon Spradling.
The more I think about it, “Shannon” is a great name.
Sharon
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So Matt Doherty obviously must think that Frank Martin is an even better coach than oscar Weber, right? I mean how did Frank win with such crap talent? :jerk:
I mean, Doherty is basically doing KU a favor here....build every excuse to keep Bill Self's bitch at Kansas State.
St. John asked him that same frank question, setting up a "great coach" response. What he got was "well, I don't remember who they graduated, but they were some scorers." So, no. In one sentence he managed to prove himself Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or ignorant as well as backing oscar and inferring Frank sucks.
When given an opportunity, Doherty had nothing positive to say about Frank.
He couldn’t stop gushing about Weber, it was sickening.
His credibility was not very good; apparently we have a player named Shannon Spradling.
The more I think about it, “Shannon” is a great name.
Sharon
Sharon Shannon it all works! :dunno:
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So Matt Doherty obviously must think that Frank Martin is an even better coach than oscar Weber, right? I mean how did Frank win with such crap talent? :jerk:
I mean, Doherty is basically doing KU a favor here....build every excuse to keep Bill Self's bitch at Kansas State.
St. John asked him that same frank question, setting up a "great coach" response. What he got was "well, I don't remember who they graduated, but they were some scorers." So, no. In one sentence he managed to prove himself Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or ignorant as well as backing oscar and inferring Frank sucks.
When given an opportunity, Doherty had nothing positive to say about Frank.
He couldn’t stop gushing about Weber, it was sickening.
His credibility was not very good; apparently we have a player named Shannon Spradling.
The more I think about it, “Shannon” is a great name.
wtf? did he really call him shannon spradling? because spradling's dad is named shannon. just what the hell is going on here?
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Doherty's a :opcat: pendejo. 'Cuz, you know, Jamar was a super-scorer from that underground railroad out of DC!
How long until we can have good basketball again? I feel so bad for Rodney & JO. :cry:
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wow, is this podcasted yet? eff that guy.
It is:
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=374&f=909341
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So Matt Doherty obviously must think that Frank Martin is an even better coach than oscar Weber, right? I mean how did Frank win with such crap talent? :jerk:
I mean, Doherty is basically doing KU a favor here....build every excuse to keep Bill Self's bitch at Kansas State.
St. John asked him that same frank question, setting up a "great coach" response. What he got was "well, I don't remember who they graduated, but they were some scorers." So, no. In one sentence he managed to prove himself Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or ignorant as well as backing oscar and inferring Frank sucks.
When given an opportunity, Doherty had nothing positive to say about Frank.
He couldn’t stop gushing about Weber, it was sickening.
His credibility was not very good; apparently we have a player named Shannon Spradling.
The more I think about it, “Shannon” is a great name.
wtf? did he really call him shannon spradling? because spradling's dad is named shannon. just what the hell is going on here?
Welp, I guess we know who Doherty sat next to at practice and why he has the opinion that he does of our team and coaching debacle.
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So Matt Doherty obviously must think that Frank Martin is an even better coach than oscar Weber, right? I mean how did Frank win with such crap talent? :jerk:
I mean, Doherty is basically doing KU a favor here....build every excuse to keep Bill Self's bitch at Kansas State.
St. John asked him that same frank question, setting up a "great coach" response. What he got was "well, I don't remember who they graduated, but they were some scorers." So, no. In one sentence he managed to prove himself Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or ignorant as well as backing oscar and inferring Frank sucks.
When given an opportunity, Doherty had nothing positive to say about Frank.
He couldn’t stop gushing about Weber, it was sickening.
His credibility was not very good; apparently we have a player named Shannon Spradling.
The more I think about it, “Shannon” is a great name.
wtf? did he really call him shannon spradling? because spradling's dad is named shannon. just what the hell is going on here?
Welp, I guess we know who Doherty sat next to at practice and why he has the opinion that he does of our team and coaching debacle.
That explains alot about that interview!
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So Matt Doherty obviously must think that Frank Martin is an even better coach than oscar Weber, right? I mean how did Frank win with such crap talent? :jerk:
I mean, Doherty is basically doing KU a favor here....build every excuse to keep Bill Self's bitch at Kansas State.
St. John asked him that same frank question, setting up a "great coach" response. What he got was "well, I don't remember who they graduated, but they were some scorers." So, no. In one sentence he managed to prove himself Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or ignorant as well as backing oscar and inferring Frank sucks.
When given an opportunity, Doherty had nothing positive to say about Frank.
He couldn’t stop gushing about Weber, it was sickening.
His credibility was not very good; apparently we have a player named Shannon Spradling.
The more I think about it, “Shannon” is a great name.
wtf? did he really call him shannon spradling? because spradling's dad is named shannon. just what the hell is going on here?
Welp, I guess we know who Doherty sat next to at practice and why he has the opinion that he does of our team and coaching debacle.
seriously though. wtf is going on? i mean, why not just hire will's dad. it's pretty obvious he has just as much say in the program as anyone over the past couple of years. just let him coach the freaking team.
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Shannon spradling is too big to be our coach. I mean, he is a shot caller. What is the position above AD? Seems to be the level of power that he likes to exercise.
In all seriousness, the absolute best thing that could have ever happened to EMAW bb is if Will transferred and we were rid of him and his dad. Worst FP,TC in a long time. Even if we still got rid of Frank, getting rid of our stage 4 Spradling would have been a good move.
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wow, is this podcasted yet? eff that guy.
It is:
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=374&f=909341
Yes, listen to this if you can. It's the very last 5-10 minutes of the interview. You could tell that St. John was dumbfounded during that part of the interview and then he and Jake were both nearly speechless afterwards.
I haven't heard someone make as big a fool of himself on the radio in quite a while.
SSJ: what about K-State?
MD: No talent.
SSJ: Err, what?
MD: No talent. I went and watched a practice and there's no one on that team that would start for KU.
SSJ: To be fair, not many Big 12 teams have players that would start for KU. But McGruder is returning All Big 12.
MD: McGruder sucks. Can't shoot the 3 (!?!?!?), can't create his own shot. Shannon Spradling is okay. oscar Weber is a great coach and he's done a great (!?!?!?) job with this team so far.
[About this time was when I realized MD is sticking up for another member of the failed head coach fraternity.]
SSJ: Well, what does that say about the job Frank Martin was able to do with these players last year, getting 10 wins and winning in the tourney?
MD: Well, I don't remember exactly, but they lost a lot of scoring from last year. oscar is doing a great job with what's there, but there's just not much there.
SSJ: Okkkkkkkkaaaaayyyyy, well, thanks for your time.
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wow, is this podcasted yet? eff that guy.
It is:
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=374&f=909341
K-State talk starts at the 13:00 mark. Matt Doherty - Rod sucks. "Shannon" Spradling is a nice guard. :facepalm:
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...and Frank lost some scorers from last year.
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:chainsaw:
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MD, on where KSU might finish in the Big 12: They could even finish in the top 3rd.
Dumbass doesn't even know that there are only 10 teams in the conference.
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He's simply full of crap. There's no way he has watched a complete KSU game this year. I'll bet he just looked at the record ("Only two losses!").
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That was propaganda. Pure and simple. Unreal.
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Wow. Izzo and Painter were front and center when oscar got fired bashing Illinois and the AD for what a huge mistake we made and how great oscar is, but this is something else entirely. I mean he's rough ridin' straight up trashing current players. oscar now has people that throw his players under the bus for him. This is what gets me most about oscar. oscar trashes his own players, his cronies now do it, all to cover his own ineptitude and yet the first thing people say about him is what a great guy he is. He's a dickless piece of crap.
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Wow. Izzo and Painter were front and center when oscar got fired bashing Illinois and the AD for what a huge mistake we made and how great oscar is, but this is something else entirely. I mean he's rough ridin' straight up trashing current players. oscar now has people that throw his players under the bus for him. This is what gets me most about oscar. oscar trashes his own players, his cronies do it all to cover his own ineptitude and yet the first thing people say about him is what a great guy he is. He's a dickless piece of crap.
It is so transparent. I mean what in the hell did I just listen to? That was absurd.
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So did Doherty just ask 810 if he could come on and pump up oscar while trashing our players?
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Remember this? :cry:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beyondusports.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fjacob-pullen-tweets.jpg&hash=3880f1bbe4cd852689077ed9635a481b22dca339)
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If you like at the bright side, oscar is already fighting for his freaking job.
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If you like at the bright side, oscar is already fighting for his freaking job.
I do.
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If you like at the bright side, oscar is already fighting for his freaking job.
The best defense is a good offense
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If you like at the bright side, oscar is already fighting for his freaking job.
I do.
Yeah, we've already had the Prez give him a vote of confidence, and now his buddies are trashing the players on his behalf. Guess #BiD is making itself felt despite the Baghdad Bob-esque pronouncements about ticket sales and such.
Also, there seem to be plenty of tix left for KC on Saturday, given the number of advertisements and "free rides to the game" offers I've been hearing.
Good grief. 6 months with oscar, and it's obvious that this is already just around the corner:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpeoriarestaurants.com%2Fimages%2Frest_pics%2Ftaco_johns.jpg&hash=0cf5228fff42c5c387849e994282d1165ba4f2b3)
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Why is Doherty watching our practice?
And where is oscar's response? Could you even imagine a someone watching one of Hugg's or Frank's practices and then going on local talk radio and saying they "have no talent" and "none of them could start at Kansas?"
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Matt Doherty came up in a "pretty" system . . . a system run with top flight talent, he doesn't have a clue and has clearly demonstrated he cannot take I3 Grade Diamonds and do anything with them.
This is one reason why former UNC assistants struggle. Send Roy Williams to most any other school and he blows . . . same with former Dukies, they're used to sitting on a bench as assistants at UNC or Duke with McD AA's that are the 6th or 7th guy.
That said, we really don't have much pure basketball talent on this team.
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Why is Doherty watching our practice?
And where is oscar's response? Could you even imagine a someone watching one of Hugg's or Frank's practices and then going on local talk radio and saying they "have no talent" and "none of them could start at Kansas?"
I can't wait to hear oscar's impassioned response in defense of his players. Probably going to rip Doherty's bad person right out of his body and feed it to him. :ohno: You do not mess with oscar's kids. You think Gundy protects his players, well oscar is rough ridin' 56 years old. Get ready for a press conference meltdown that'll make Jim Mora Jr. look like the Scheme Doctor. Aww yeah.
Wondering about Matt Doherty's goose are you? Well that rough rider is cooked. Merry Christmas fuckface, signed oscar. :excited:
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Why is Doherty watching our practice?
And where is oscar's response? Could you even imagine a someone watching one of Hugg's or Frank's practices and then going on local talk radio and saying they "have no talent" and "none of them could start at Kansas?"
both great questions.
Expecting an "everyone is entitled to their opinion....we just have to keep trying to understand our system" type of response in a very soft amused voice.
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jesus christ, just listened to it. :sdeek:
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That was propaganda. Pure and simple. Unreal.
wow. just listened. doherty couldn't get his pre programmed talking points out fast enough. i mean just immediately on the offensive just absolutely trashing our players. i kept waiting for him to take a breath or pass out or something, but he just kept going and going. anybody who couldn't see that for what it was is dilusional.
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Props to St. John. He sounded stunned at the idiocy he was hearing.
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That was propaganda. Pure and simple. Unreal.
wow. just listened. doherty couldn't get his pre programmed talking points out fast enough. i mean just immediately on the offensive just absolutely trashing our players and didn't come up for a breath for like two minutes straight. i kept waiting for him to take a breath or pass out or something. anybody who couldn't see that for what it was is dilusional.
I did appreciate how sort of taken aback the radio guys were with just how much of a dick he was to the current team. It had a great "Is he really saying this crap?" vibe to it.
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wow, also pulled out the "can't recruit to Manhattan" talking point. what the eff.
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Why is Doherty watching our practice?
And where is oscar's response? Could you even imagine a someone watching one of Hugg's or Frank's practices and then going on local talk radio and saying they "have no talent" and "none of them could start at Kansas?"
both great questions.
Expecting an "everyone is entitled to their opinion....we just have to keep trying to understand our system" type of response in a very soft amused voice.
No, he'll say this:
"Boy, I was just in watching one of LHC Bill Snyder's practices the other day. That guy knows how to do it, he knows what it's about. Takes kids that people put down, builds them up, they're going to a BCS game. That's great."
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wow, also pulled out the "can't recruit to Manhattan" talking point. what the eff.
YOU DRIVE BY LAWRENCE ON THE WAY FROM THE AIRPORT TO MANHATTAN!
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Remember this? :cry:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beyondusports.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fjacob-pullen-tweets.jpg&hash=3880f1bbe4cd852689077ed9635a481b22dca339)
Jake is EMAW
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Props to St. John. He sounded stunned at the idiocy he was hearing.
yeah, he couldn't have been any better. long silence...."well that's interesting"...long silence
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ohhh....he's tweeting
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wow, also pulled out the "can't recruit to Manhattan" talking point. what the eff.
I had forgotten that he was Roy’s lead recruiter at Kansas from 1992 to 1999. He certainly hasn’t forgotten the Roy talking points.
Someone tell him he doesn't need to recruit to Kansas anymore. Self has passed Roy by in every way!
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This is fun. Put Doherty on the wall.
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to open it up, doherty talked for 60 seconds straight and during those sixty seconds he said...
"i don't they're very talented, at all"
"oscar weber has done a very good job with that group"
"mcgruder, i don't think he's that talented. can't get his own shot. he doesn't have three point range. he is an average athelete"
"shannon spradling is a nice guard"
"interior players aren't good scorers"
"i think oscar has done an exceptional job"
so in sixty seconds he said horrible things about the whole team including rodney and said nice things about two people, oscar weber and will spradling. except, he managed to call will by his dad's name which is more than weird and you kind of have to even wonder how he even knows shannon spradling. jesus though. just wtf is happening over there? i mean what in the world? why would a coach send his buddy out to just crap on the entire team? mcgruder average? spradling nice? no mention of angel at all?
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to open it up, doherty talked for 60 seconds straight and during those sixty seconds he said...
"i don't they're very talented, at all"
"oscar weber has done very good job with that group"
"mcgruder, i don't think he's that talented. can't get his own shot. he doesn't have three point range. he is an average athelete"
"shannon spradling is a nice guard"
"interior players aren't good scorers"
"i think oscar has done an exceptional job"
so in sixty seconds he said horrible things about the whole team including rodney and said nice things about two people, oscar weber and will spradling. except, he managed to call will by his dad's name which is more than weird and you kind of have to even wonder how he knows shannon spradlin. jesus though. just wtf is happening over there? i mean what in the world?
that is rough ridin' ridiculous. what on earth.
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to open it up, doherty talked for 60 seconds straight and during those sixty seconds he said...
"i don't they're very talented, at all"
"oscar weber has done very good job with that group"
"mcgruder, i don't think he's that talented. can't get his own shot. he doesn't have three point range. he is an average athelete"
"shannon spradling is a nice guard"
"interior players aren't good scorers"
"i think oscar has done an exceptional job"
so in sixty seconds he said horrible things about the whole team including rodney and said nice things about two people, oscar weber and will spradling. except, he managed to call will by his dad's name which is more than weird and you kind of have to even wonder how he knows shannon spradlin. jesus though. just wtf is happening over there? i mean what in the world?
that is rough ridin' ridiculous. what on earth.
oh my twitter
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So who signed the check to Doherty? oscar? Currie? The Animal? Doug Compton?
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Rick you know exactly why. oscar is building a winner. And by winner, I don't mean the team. I mean a winner of a story to lean on as to why the end result is what it will be.
So who signed the check to Doherty? oscar? Currie? The Animal? Doug Compton?
No check, probs just a reccomendo to the next currie-like Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that sits in a hotel and asks friends of Matt if they should hire matt. Scratch mine/I'll scratch yours type thing I bet.
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He said oscar was doing a good job and is a good coach- I suspect he is wrong here, but will observe for myself.
He said we are not talented- agree
So what. :jerk:
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He said oscar was doing a good job and is a good coach- I suspect he is wrong here, but will observe for myself.
He said we are not talented- agree
So what. :jerk:
ummm, you did not listen to the lol rampage he went on.
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things like this are good for goEMAW. really brings us together and stuff.
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Is he friends with Shannon Spradling or was Shannon Spradling at the practice he was at? What in the rough ridin' eff.
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Is he friends with Shannon Spradling or was Shannon Spradling at the practice he was at? What in the rough ridin' eff.
Probs both. oscar was busy waiving his hands around during practice, i would imagine, so Shannon filled him in on all the pertinent details.
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Is he friends with Shannon Spradling or was Shannon Spradling at the practice he was at? What in the rough ridin' eff.
Probs both. oscar was busy waiving his hands around during practice, i would imagine, so Shannon filled him in on all the pertinent details.
my brain hurts.
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He said oscar was doing a good job and is a good coach- I suspect he is wrong here, but will observe for myself.
He said we are not talented- agree
So what. :jerk:
Yeah not overly talented, but they once could chew your face off and have regressed to running around like pussies.
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I mean, that is the most bizzare part imo. Sticking up for his loser friend by throwing our NCAA tourny proven players under the bus is one thing, but then saying that Shannon Spradling is pretty decent is just so rough ridin' weird. Was Shannon also feeding him these talking points?
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I agree it is bizarre, but don't all coaches have guys that go on the radio and say things like this for them?
It's not that big of a surprise to me, though I have no idea how oscar and Doherty have a connection.
:dunno:
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Have no clue on shannon. don't know if they are friends or if he met him at practice. it's one or the other though. He slipped on the name, obvs, but Shannon was quick to be recalled either from recent interaction or due to a long period of use. one of the other. Thats how my brain works anyway. :dunno:
So either they know each other from recruiting, which I haven't ever heard of sprads dad being involved a lot in, or he met him recently. put that with Matt saying he sat through a practice recently and it seems logical to assume Shannon crap on the kids and our game and our old coach.
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I mean, that is the most bizzare part imo. Sticking up for his loser friend by throwing our NCAA tourny proven players under the bus is one thing, but then saying that Shannon Spradling is pretty decent is just so rough ridin' weird. Was Shannon also feeding him these talking points?
good nose steve dave. in fact, it has been suggested that it may have actually been shannon "will's dad" spradling sitting next to him at practice and feeding him all of this!
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Have no clue on shannon. don't know if they are friends or if he met him at practice. it's one or the other though. He slipped on the name, obvs, but Shannon was quick to be recalled either from recent interaction or due to a long period of use. one of the other. Thats how my brain works anyway. :dunno:
So either they know each other from recruiting, which I haven't ever heard of sprads dad being involved a lot in, or he met him recently. put that with Matt saying he sat through a practice recently and it seems logical to assume Shannon crap on the kids and our game and our old coach.
well it would certainly be in keeping with shannon spradling's actions thus far in his reign of terror as a helicopter parent/tuck revolutionary.
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He said oscar was doing a good job and is a good coach- I suspect he is wrong here, but will observe for myself.
He said we are not talented- agree
So what. :jerk:
ummm, you did not listen to the lol rampage he went on.
Look, I'm pretty sure you agree we are really average, so why would you be offended that he is LHFAO at the thought of us beating a very good Florida team? Seems pretty reasonalble to me.
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He said oscar was doing a good job and is a good coach- I suspect he is wrong here, but will observe for myself.
He said we are not talented- agree
So what. :jerk:
ummm, you did not listen to the lol rampage he went on.
Look, I'm pretty sure you agree we are really average, so why would you be offended that he is LHFAO at the thought of us beating a very good Florida team? Seems pretty reasonalble to me.
the team isn't average, moron, the coaching is.
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I mean, that is the most bizzare part imo. Sticking up for his loser friend by throwing our NCAA tourny proven players under the bus is one thing, but then saying that Shannon Spradling is pretty decent is just so rough ridin' weird. Was Shannon also feeding him these talking points?
good nose steve dave. in fact, it has been suggested that it may have actually been shannon "will's dad" spradling sitting next to him at practice and feeding him all of this!
yeah, sorry, missed that. But yeah, agree. what in the eff. Shannon Spradling has had more influence in destroying this program than anyone not named John Currie.
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Remember when that rough rider was posting on ksufans defending his son when he committed? JFC what a loser.
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Is he friends with Shannon Spradling or was Shannon Spradling at the practice he was at? What in the rough ridin' eff.
Probs both. oscar was busy waiving his hands around during practice, i would imagine, so Shannon filled him in on all the pertinent details.
Maybe Will was cramping up or something and Shannon came in and took his place on the 3 man weave drill and Doherty was impressed with Shannon's skills.
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He said oscar was doing a good job and is a good coach- I suspect he is wrong here, but will observe for myself.
He said we are not talented- agree
So what. :jerk:
ummm, you did not listen to the lol rampage he went on.
Look, I'm pretty sure you agree we are really average, so why would you be offended that he is LHFAO at the thought of us beating a very good Florida team? Seems pretty reasonalble to me.
the team isn't average, moron, the coaching is.
Team is average also, nice poster(think Buford T. Justice here)
The Job Frank did with this craproster last year is looking better and better to me.
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just now getting to this... doherty clearly has no concept of the fact that the team is basically the same as last year. clearly didn't want to say frank had done a better job. "shannon spradling" was rough ridin' stupid.
but, i can't really hate on him that much because i say the same crap when i watch our games. said it last year as well. we have little skill, particularly on offense. we don't hit close shots around the rim. doesn't seem like we have anyone that can create their own shot. frustrating to watch. frank just knew how to coach that type of team better. he recruited them.
i'm not at all trying to argue that oscar is "squeezing every possible bit" out of this team. i feel pretty similar about oscar as our coach as most of you though i'm not quite as vocal about it. and is oscar ruining them? maybe. but to say there's not that much talent on the team, to me at this point, is not that ridiculous of a statement.
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yeah, the no talent on the team part doesn't bother me in the least. it's the oscar is getting all anyone can out of them and the complimenting of "shannon spradling" that is awful. we need to somehow confirm that he is parroting shannon on this. I don't think he's parroting oscar fwiw.
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With the right coach and system, JO would be an NBA prospect. Rodney and Angel are amazing. The team just sucks because the coach sucks and puts them in a position to lose. They also have nothing demanded of them and play incredibly soft. I didn't think the effort that Frank got out of them would wear off as fast as it did and actually thought that maybe they would be better this season than they were last season despite Weber. What oscar has done to this team in such a short amount of time is simply amazing.
And of course he's parroting Shannon. There is no other explanation for him saying that Spradling is a good guard.
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he clearly didn't get the advanced talking points that say at least conceded that frank was able to coach a bunch of talentless rejects to the NCAAs and oscar just needed to get "his system" established and get "his players" in there. His lack of knowledge about the roster, his use of KU neg recruiting Manhattan talking points and his weird shannon spradling shout out all work to undermine what is a possible oscar-positive narrative.
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WTF?
Is Shannon really Wil's dad? That just adds a whole new level (for me at least) of derpitude.
I agree somewhat on the no talent stuff, but Frank made it work and IMO gave us a niche for players that he could use to compete with that other programs didn't want/have a role for.
But you don't just confuse the name Wil with Shannon. That is just mumped up. It gives credence to all the high school drama bullshit that has come out from this...which is my worst nightmare for this program. That all of it might actually be true. :cry:
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I have no problem with him saying our talent is average or that we won’t compete with Florida a top three team in the country.
But 12 months ago K-State had a brand in basketball, we would not be outworked by any team, we would hustle, we would guard like no other team, and we would outrebound the opponent on a nightly basis. Now we are a SLTH team with a coach that only other coaches could love.
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I agree it is bizarre, but don't all coaches have guys that go on the radio and say things like this for them?
It's not that big of a surprise to me, though I have no idea how oscar and Doherty have a connection.
:dunno:
yes, jeff goodman and the other weird looking dude were frank's
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I agree it is bizarre, but don't all coaches have guys that go on the radio and say things like this for them?
It's not that big of a surprise to me, though I have no idea how oscar and Doherty have a connection.
:dunno:
yes, jeff goodman and the other weird looking dude were frank's
jeff goodman IS the weird looking dude. eyes too close together. doyle once told him he was going to punch him in his too close together eyes.
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I have no problem with him saying our talent is average or that we won’t compete with Florida a top three team in the country.
But 12 months ago K-State had a brand in basketball, we would not be outworked by any team, we would hustle, we would guard like no other team, and we would outrebound the opponent on a nightly basis. Now we are a SLTH team with a coach that only other coaches could love.
yeah i agree with this.
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i know goodman is weird looking, more clear to say "jeff goodman, weird looking dude, and the other weird looking dude, were frank's"
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WTF?
Is Shannon really Wil's dad? That just adds a whole new level (for me at least) of derpitude.
yes. he was also a public/vocal Frank hater.
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No one here is going to argue that this is the best team in the Big 12, but remember when Frank left, all the talking heads agreed that he was leaving behind a Sweet 16 team.
So what happened since March? oscar happened. So don't go on the radio telling us how good of a job oscar and Shannon are doing, cause that smells like crap.
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I have no problem with him saying our talent is average or that we won’t compete with Florida a top three team in the country.
But 12 months ago K-State had a brand in basketball, we would not be outworked by any team, we would hustle, we would guard like no other team, and we would outrebound the opponent on a nightly basis. Now we are a SLTH team with a coach that only other coaches could love.
yeah i agree with this.
it hurts to see it laid out like this.
also at first i thought doherty said "Channing" Spradling and L@L'd at the thought of confusing channing tatum with will spradling.
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Is shannon spradling a kc metro hs coach?
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Somebody get on twitter and challenge MD to name at least two fathers of KSU basketball players.
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Is shannon spradling a kc metro hs coach?
no, he's a k-state 2 guard
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Is shannon spradling a kc metro hs coach?
But what some view as ruthless tongue-lashings capable of leaving scars, Spradling sees as the status quo. He's experienced tough coaching, and Martin's style isn't it. He's survived his share of locker room tirades, and his current coach's antics don't top the list.
"It was way worse with my dad," said Spradling, who played AAU basketball for his father for the bulk of his childhood. "Frank really gets into me and stuff, but you think Frank has a bad mouth on the court? My dad's mouth was way worse. And this is when we were younger, too. You didn't see this on other teams back then. Parents on other teams didn't know what to think."
The routine was constant back then. Mistakes in basketball, or in life, always came with a price tag. So the K-State coach with a nation-wide reputation for being hard on players has a ways to go to catch the disciplinarian back home. And in Manhattan, Spradling's comeuppance for a bad decision doesn't follow him to the dinner table.
"We had a lot of uncomfortable meals, and my mom would sometimes try to get involved and baby me, but my dad wasn't having that," Spradling said. "That's when things got bad. But, what could I say? He was my dad. He was always right."
Writing Spradling's empty halftime stat line on a dry erase board between periods in an early-season game with Charleston Southern inspired a 15-point second half, but Martin's sarcastic style of grilling him over a lack of production still came off as mild. Until he forces his sophomore guard to leave the locker room with tears rolling down his cheeks, Spradling will claim to have seen worse -- much worse -- from the AAU coach that shares his last name.
"The worst ever was in eighth grade during nationals in Indiana," Spradling recalls. "I had a terrible first half. We were down by, like, 15. My dad just ripped me at halftime. I was crying the whole second half. I scored 25 points in the second half, but I was crying the whole time."
This isn't a case of Shannon Spradling being especially tough on his son. His offspring's tears weren't the only ones spilled on game days. He once inspired current Alabama guard Trevor Releford, a former AAU teammate, to a big second half in the same fashion, leaving him to ride welling eyes to success.
Often times, when the waterworks turned on, so too did Shannon Spradling's teams.
"My dad would get into you, but it would make you do better," Will Spradling said. "It was never just tearing you down for nothing or just being negative for no reason. He knew it would make you try harder."
It wasn't just results on the basketball court Shannon Spradling, a former player at the University of Tulsa, was after. These were, according to Spradling, life lessons. The toughening-up process was complete well before the current K-State guard graduated high school, and the plan wasn't executed by accident.
At a young age, Will Spradling trained with NFL players such as Eddie Kennison at a facility in Overland Park and broke the former Chiefs wide receiver's complex record in at least one drill. He was forced to play up two-age groups on the AAU circuit. His nose has been broken twice on the basketball court and all the recruiting attention that surrounded him during his junior year in high school was garnered while playing with a broken bursa sack in his hip.
"I'd just tell him to shake it off and move on," Shannon Spradling said. "I was equally tough on everyone. I always told him I'd have him prepared for life, so I guess I was true to my words."
So here stands Will Spradling the college athlete, -- a pile of high-pitched voice and bashfulness -- the most unassuming tough guy on Earth. As a freshman at K-State a season ago, he was one of two players to appear in every game and hit his share of big shots in the process. He's on pace to shatter the school record for charges drawn in a career and regularly slams his body into a cold, wooden floor despite lingering pain from the four-year-old hip injury.
Will Spradling isn't just a Frank Martin-style of player. He's the steel mold from which they're cut.
"Shannon did a hell of a job preparing Will for college," Martin said. "Will is going to succeed in a heck of a way because he's been prepared. When you get guys like that, you can coach them. They're going to respond to coaching. The problem is there are too many kids these days that haven't been challenged."
The kid with the squeaky voice and bulletproof spirit has just less than three years of college basketball left to his name. Three years of curse words. Three years of absorbing maniacal screaming and being chastised for microscopic missteps. Martin is not changing his ways anytime soon.
"As coaches, I guess we're expected to go hug them and kiss them," Martin said. "It doesn't work like that K-State."
And that's just fine by Will Spradling. He's never known another way.
"I don't think I'd like playing for a coach who just sits back and relaxes," he said. "I've never played with a coach with that style. I don't even think I could deal with that. I wouldn't know how to respond."
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"I don't think I'd like playing for a coach who just sits back and relaxes," he said. "I've never played with a coach with that style. I don't even think I could deal with that. I wouldn't know how to respond."
GAH!
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I bet Shannon (confirmed dickhead by his own son) read that article and made it his personal mission to get rid of Frank and eff all of us over by getting some pillowy-soft sissy to come coach the team so that toughness would never be brought up again.
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My god, if ever an article was deserving of a follow up where-are-they-now-VH1 special, that one is screaming for it.
Also, Sprads may be able to take one tough guy's crap, but what two was obvs too much. probs couldn't take Franks lashing then hear it from his dad so he had to engineer a way to get rid of one, and murdering your dad is probably a little more risky than manipulating Currie.
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So Shannon coached AAU ball?
That explains how Doherty knows him.
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I agree it is bizarre, but don't all coaches have guys that go on the radio and say things like this for them?
It's not that big of a surprise to me, though I have no idea how oscar and Doherty have a connection.
:dunno:
But usually the mouthpiece doesn't trash the team's best player.
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So Shannon coached AAU ball?
That explains how Doherty knows him.
Possibly. assuming he did so for players that were worthy of UNC attention
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I agree it is bizarre, but don't all coaches have guys that go on the radio and say things like this for them?
It's not that big of a surprise to me, though I have no idea how oscar and Doherty have a connection.
:dunno:
But usually the mouthpiece doesn't trash the team's best player.
Or completely trash the work of a successful coach.
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I agree it is bizarre, but don't all coaches have guys that go on the radio and say things like this for them?
It's not that big of a surprise to me, though I have no idea how oscar and Doherty have a connection.
:dunno:
But usually the mouthpiece doesn't trash the team's best player.
Or completely trash the work of a successful coach.
Frank wasn't raised as a basketball blue-blood. He has always been seen as a bit of an outsider. But he was our outsider.
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Frank wasn't raised as a basketball blue-blood. He has always been seen as a bit of an outsider. But he was our outsider.
I think this is it as much as anything. I'm sure a lot of coaches resent him because he only got his shot because of Beasley, etc. Of course the fact that he established himself over 5 years of coaching doesn't matter.
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Frank wasn't raised as a basketball blue-blood. He has always been seen as a bit of an outsider. But he was our outsider.
I think this is it as much as anything. I'm sure a lot of coaches resent him because he only got his shot because of Beasley, etc. Of course the fact that he established himself over 5 years of coaching doesn't matter.
That probably really bothers a "UNC blue blood" like Doherty...especially when he compares his career record to a guy like Frank.
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Frank wasn't raised as a basketball blue-blood. He has always been seen as a bit of an outsider. But he was our outsider.
I think this is it as much as anything. I'm sure a lot of coaches resent him because he only got his shot because of Beasley, etc. Of course the fact that he established himself over 5 years of coaching doesn't matter.
It's laughable because frank was given a chevy with a new set of tires and a foot shaped gas pedal. Doherty was given a Ferrari with daddy's credit card and one of those cards that says you are the relative of a state trooper/cop. Given a similar amt of time, the comparison is crazy diff.
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Partially I think Doherty was having a bad day. He did a pretty good job trashing Brown from Missouri too.
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I especially like the part where that Doherty said, when referencing the difficulty in recruiting to Manhattan, that you have to drive from the airport in Kansas City, "right past Lawrence". Did ESPN play some type of joke on him and make him fly to KCI instead of MHK?
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What is "Furg"?
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I especially like the part where that Doherty said, when referencing the difficulty in recruiting to Manhattan, that you have to drive from the airport in Kansas City, "right past Lawrence". Did ESPN play some type of joke on him and make him fly to KCI instead of MHK?
No, it proves he hasn't been to MHK in years and that the practice he may/may not have watched was in KC.
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I gave DScott the cliff notes on twitter. will be interesting to see what GPC's response is. I mean, you can attack how ludicrous this is on the surface without attacking weber. Will see what they do. Would think that this is pertinent discussion for the rivals site dedicated to KSU.
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What is "Furg"?
Our last AD's name was Ron Guenther. He kept Weber around and even gave him raises within the last 3 yrs before he was fired. He also gave oscar the ridiculous contract that is paying oscar 1.2 mil per yr the next 3 yrs while he is coaching your team..So, someone came up with FURG, which is eff U Ron Guenther, instead of using his name in passing.
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What is "Furg"?
Our last AD's name was Ron Gunther. He kept Weber around and even gave him raises within the last 3 yrs before he was fired. He also gave oscar the ridiculous contract that is paying oscar 1.2 mil per yr the next 3 yrs while he is coaching your team..So, many came up with FURG, which is eff U Ron Gunther.
ours isn't as catchy. just "FYJC"
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What is "Furg"?
Our last AD's name was Ron Gunther. He kept Weber around and even gave him raises within the last 3 yrs before he was fired. He also gave oscar the ridiculous contract that is paying oscar 1.2 mil per yr the next 3 yrs while he is coaching your team..So, someone came up with FURG, which is eff U Ron Gunther, instead of using his name in passing.
that's pretty great
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Figured you should be handed these for that time of need...
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I'm starting to feel like a spoiled brat. These poor Illinois fans had to suffer through this for years. And on top of that, they are stuck in the big 10. At least we have a football team in a football conference.
Kinda want to invite them to jump on our bandwagon.
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lol thx goes out to Illinismitty over at illinihq for most of these. They are pretty great and exactly how we felt about old Bubbles..
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I gave DScott the cliff notes on twitter. will be interesting to see what GPC's response is. I mean, you can attack how ludicrous this is on the surface without attacking weber. Will see what they do. Would think that this is pertinent discussion for the rivals site dedicated to KSU.
I like that thought, but it's susceptible to the thought process that attacking Frank is defending oscar.
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I see Doherty has now taken to trashing Gipson on twitter in a fight with KOPPE22 of all tucks.
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If he starts talking crap on Angel I will burn his rough ridin' house down
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I see Doherty has now taken to trashing Gipson on twitter in a fight with KOPPE22 of all tucks.
Today has been a great success.
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None of our starters would start at Kansas? :dubious:
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None of our starters would start at Kansas? :dubious:
When st john told him that most big12 players wouldn't this year, he cane back with how when you share a state that has to be the measure. That our players have to be good enough to start for ku.
I mean, what????
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Then he says which of our players would even start on a top 20 team? Double :dubious: :dubious:
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i guess we'll need some sort of ruling, but i think that the fact that doherty took time out of this day to tweet back at a bunch of gE's and then get bombarded should allow us to put his face on the trophy wall.
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Then he says which of our players would even start on a top 20 team? Double :dubious: :dubious:
Yeah, the whole thing was ridic, but this really put it over the top for me. Very troll like.
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There was some agenda there, but he also didn't know what he was talking about several times. Not knowing who we lost and assuming we lost "scorers" was a big one, but also not knowing that Jabari Brown only played 2 games in his "bad season" last year at Oregon and just assuming that he was a 5 star bust was another.
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"Hey Mr. Doherty, were you just regurgitating things Shannon Spradling fed you?"
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So I"m sitting around my agency headquarters today, and no one is around. It's rough ridin' boring. How do I pass the time?
Watching the trolling of MD today on twitter. Good stuff. Also, thank you taxpayers for paying me to do it.
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Embrace debate, guys.
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42 said it best, we did a good thing today guys. A good thing.
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I think someone should tweet to 'lieb and tell him to listen to Doherty's podcast for giggles.
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Saw someone was thinking about forwarding to D. Scott. It brought me to a conclusion. It is probably good that this guy was a longtime KU assistant. Normally gps would eat this type of tripe up (I'm not sure about basically saying the players suck), but coming from a guy who spent so much time as a squawk, it could have a better chance to work them into an angry-fervor.
It may be easy to pull the wool over their eyes, but at times like these it is good to have them on our side.
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I did get it to D on Twitter. He hadn't heard it yet. Told him he should check it out. Haven't heard anything yet
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I did get it to D on Twitter. He hadn't heard it yet. Told him he should check it out. Haven't heard anything yet
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Let the man eat his roast beef sandwich
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i guess my apathy really shows. i didn't even know about this until like 20 minutes ago when I accidentally got on twitter. bruceketball has me bummed.
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So Kim Carnes is Matt Doherty's sock? :sdeek:
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finally listened to it. good god what an all around bad interview.
also, after he left, is there always that much amount of dead air on that show? awkward.
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Then he says which of our players would even start on a top 20 team? Double :dubious: :dubious:
It's funny because they would all be playing on a top 20 team if Frank were still coaching them.
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finally listened to it. good god what an all around bad interview.
also, after he left, is there always that much amount of dead air on that show? awkward.
That dead air was SSJ composing himself. Doherty was like a bad caller but it was an interview, a long interview of a moron.
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This was a good thing.
Character definition. Enemies of EMAW - John Currie, oscar Webber, Shannon Spradling and Will Spradling.
Win, lose, whatever. I'm focusing on fighting back against those 4.
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finally listened to it. good god what an all around bad interview.
also, after he left, is there always that much amount of dead air on that show? awkward.
That dead air was SSJ composing himself. Doherty was like a bad caller but it was an interview, a long interview of a moron.
Yeah.
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This was a good thing.
Character definition. Enemies of EMAW - John Currie, oscar Webber, Shannon Spradling and Will Spradling.
Win, lose, whatever. I'm focusing on fighting back against those 4.
Got to know who the enemy is. They are now clearly defined.
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Great thread.
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finally listened to it. good god what an all around bad interview.
also, after he left, is there always that much amount of dead air on that show? awkward.
That dead air was SSJ composing himself. Doherty was like a bad caller but it was an interview, a long interview of a moron.
Yeah Doherty is a total dumbass.
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If you like at the bright side, oscar is already fighting for his freaking job.
I do.
Yeah, we've already had the Prez give him a vote of confidence, and now his buddies are trashing the players on his behalf. Guess #BiD is making itself felt despite the Baghdad Bob-esque pronouncements about ticket sales and such.
Also, there seem to be plenty of tix left for KC on Saturday, given the number of advertisements and "free rides to the game" offers I've been hearing.
Good grief. 6 months with oscar, and it's obvious that this is already just around the corner:
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I miss you Slimz, are you going to the UF game? lets pak
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Then he says which of our players would even start on a top 20 team? Double :dubious: :dubious:
It's funny because they would all be playing on a top 20 team if Frank were still coaching them.
Then he says which of our players would even start on a top 20 team? Double :dubious: :dubious:
It's funny because they would all be playing on a top 20 team if Frank were still coaching them.
I agree with Nuts.
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Enemies of EMAW - John Currie, oscar Webber, Shannon Spradling and Will Spradling.
Win, lose, whatever. I'm focusing on fighting back against those 4.
schulz. he doesn't even know how to spell his own name.
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Enemies of EMAW - John Currie, oscar Webber, Shannon Spradling and Will Spradling.
Win, lose, whatever. I'm focusing on fighting back against those 4.
schulz. he doesn't even know how to spell his own name.
For some reason I don't see him as quite as culpable as the others, but eff it, add him.
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eff it, add him.
steve dave.
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Enemies of EMAW - John Currie, oscar Webber, Shannon Spradling and Will Spradling.
Win, lose, whatever. I'm focusing on fighting back against those 4.
schulz. he doesn't even know how to spell his own name.
For some reason I don't see him as quite as culpable as the others, but eff it, add him.
Schulz should replace Weber. Weber is the crack addicted prostitute giving johns herpes, Schulz & Currie are the pimps sending her out there at gunpoint.
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Enemies of EMAW - John Currie, oscar Webber, Shannon Spradling and Will Spradling.
Win, lose, whatever. I'm focusing on fighting back against those 4.
schulz. he doesn't even know how to spell his own name.
For some reason I don't see him as quite as culpable as the others, but eff it, add him.
Schulz should replace Weber. Weber is the crack addicted prostitute giving johns herpes, Schulz & Currie are the pimps sending her out there at gunpoint.
Not quite. That $!#* (oscar) is very willing in this scenario
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Enemies of EMAW - John Currie, oscar Webber, Shannon Spradling and Will Spradling.
Win, lose, whatever. I'm focusing on fighting back against those 4.
schulz. he doesn't even know how to spell his own name.
For some reason I don't see him as quite as culpable as the others, but eff it, add him.
Schulz should replace Weber. Weber is the crack addicted prostitute giving johns herpes, Schulz & Currie are the pimps sending her out there at gunpoint.
No. Weber's general attitude toward his players, this program, and everything keeps him on the list with culpability of his own.
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Enemies of EMAW - John Currie, oscar Webber, Shannon Spradling and Will Spradling.
Win, lose, whatever. I'm focusing on fighting back against those 4.
schulz. he doesn't even know how to spell his own name.
For some reason I don't see him as quite as culpable as the others, but eff it, add him.
Schulz should replace Weber. Weber is the crack addicted prostitute giving johns herpes, Schulz & Currie are the pimps sending her out there at gunpoint.
Schulz/Currie brought us Webber, but Webber's still Webbering all over us, and I hate him. He could choose to do the opposite of everything he's ever done, but chooses to Webber. So, I have to deal with him too.
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He certainly belongs on the list, what I'm getting at is Shultz isn't less culpable than the other four.
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Trim, I imagine you spelling Webber with 2 B's on purpose out of spite, and I like it.
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He certainly belongs on the list, what I'm getting at is Shultz isn't less culpable than the other four.
Yeah, that's fine. I guess I saw Schulz as a guy who didn't help the drowning victim, rather than the one who threw the victim off the cruise ship. But I'm fine with burning down "Prez Rez."
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Trim, I imagine you spelling Webber with 2 B's on purpose out of spite, and I like it.
That's how his first commit spelled it when thanking Webber on twitter, and I figure his recruits would know better than a bunch of kids hiding behind computers in their mamas' basements.
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Does all this mean that Matt, shameless in his praise of oscar, gets the first assistant coach vacancy, assuming at least one assistant bails after this season?
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Trim, I imagine you spelling Webber with 2 B's on purpose out of spite, and I like it.
That's how his first commit spelled it when thanking Webber on twitter, and I figure his recruits would know better than a bunch of kids hiding behind computers in their mamas' basements.
Why should the recruits learn how to spell oscar's name when he won't even learn how to pronounce theirs?
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So Matt Doherty obviously must think that Frank Martin is an even better coach than oscar Weber, right? I mean how did Frank win with such crap talent? :jerk:
I mean, Doherty is basically doing KU a favor here....build every excuse to keep Bill Self's bitch at Kansas State.
St. John asked him that same frank question, setting up a "great coach" response. What he got was "well, I don't remember who they graduated, but they were some scorers." So, no. In one sentence he managed to prove himself Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or ignorant as well as backing oscar and inferring Frank sucks.
When given an opportunity, Doherty had nothing positive to say about Frank.
He couldn’t stop gushing about Weber, it was sickening.
His credibility was not very good; apparently we have a player named Shannon Spradling.
The more I think about it, “Shannon” is a great name.
wtf? did he really call him shannon spradling? because spradling's dad is named shannon. just what the hell is going on here?
Cal, this thing is starting to stink!
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rough ridin' hell. The drama behind k state basketball is truly amazing right now. Like, how the eff did my university get here...
We seriously have to be careful. I feel like the PR machine is already rough ridin' up a lot of your perspectives on this team. Sure, they aren't overly talented by any means but this is a solid team of legit recruits that knows, or at least used to know how to play defense and rebound and pretty much brought everyone back from a good team last year, I mean the fact that people are already chiming in with the no talent bullshit is evidence that oscar really does have some sort of incredible mind control effect on those around him that we really need to keep a rough ridin' eye on. This team should not be sucking this much rough ridin' ass every game; oscar is doing a horrible job with this team.
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ohhh....he's tweeting
rough ridin' time zones. I miss everything.
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I agree it is bizarre, but don't all coaches have guys that go on the radio and say things like this for them?
It's not that big of a surprise to me, though I have no idea how oscar and Doherty have a connection.
:dunno:
yes, jeff goodman and the other weird looking dude were frank's
Heh.
Jeff Goodman ?@GoodmanCBS
Advice for coaches: If you don't know me well, don't call me and beg me to give you an early copy of the transfer list.
Frank Martin ?@FrankMartin_SC
@GoodmanCBS grumpy today? Snow, rain and cold in new England?
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Odds that Goodman was out with Frank checking temperatures or oil or whatever when Frank was at Northeastern?
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2/5 (digits per orifice)
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lol, one time I emailed Goodman asking what Josh Oppenheimer was up to and he gladly replied in like ten minutes.
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well...
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well...
He was working out Ben Gordon in Chicago at the time. I'm pretty sure he only coaches youth now.
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Not that I've ever had much faith in Matt Doherty's opinions...now I have no faith in his opinions.
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lol, one time I emailed Goodman asking what Josh Oppenheimer was up to and he gladly replied in like ten minutes.
I love Goodman. Wish we had a stud coach that was buds with him.
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I've been a wait-and-see-Weber guy, but this thing just pisses me off. :flush:
P.S. Some of those fake Weber ads are really rough ridin' funny.
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So, Doherty came back to 810 and recanted?
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=373&f=918521
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So, Doherty came back to 810 and recanted?
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=373&f=918521
marginally less infuriating IMO, would have helped if Bukaty pushed him on a few things, wasted my time
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Did not listen.
The guy didn't misdpeak the first go round. His dumbass feelings are his dumbass feelings. One game won't change his perception of us. Especially if seeing us in practice before wasn't a lie.
He is a rough ridin' clown loser.
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I'd like to hear the interview this morning. he def meant what he said last week because he repeated himself multiple times in that interview. what did he say different today? his all out attack on Rodney was super weird and he came across as a hired hit man.
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Maybe we can hire him to talk crap to various media outlets for bulletin board type motivational tactics to keep up the inspired play from our cats. I'm hoping next week he can work in some of that spicy Latino race baiting.
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I'd like to hear the interview this morning. he def meant what he said last week because he repeated himself multiple times in that interview. what did he say different today? his all out attack on Rodney was super weird and he came across as a hired hit man.
SparkNotes at the bottom
-The way Spradling and McGruder played on Saturday, they could start on any team in the country
-They outrebounded a very good Florida team. That was probably the difference
-Henriquez was a difference maker on defense
-If they play like they did Saturday during Big 12 play, they will probably finish in the 4-5 range in the Big 12
-People say that they basically have the same team back, but they are discounting just how valuable Jamar Samuels was
-Hope KSU fans appreciate oscar
-"I know oscar, but I'm not friends with oscar. You know, it's not like we're butt buddies (with a weird emphasis on the word 'butt')." -this is an actual quote
-Frank and Huggins did a tremendous job there
-Starting to get a flavor for motion offense, but they have to do it by committee
-The win against Florida validated oscar to the players.
-Gibson is a great screener. Would take him to lunch everyday just for setting such great screens. Doesn't have great lift though on offense
-McGruder and Spradling should get good shots as long as the bigs continue to set great screens for them
SparkNotes: He somehow changed his tune on McGruder and Spradling and now loves them. Not butt buddies with oscar, and wants KSU fans to know that. Gibson is fat and good at setting screens; should have free lunches daily. KSU probably will be an upper-third type Big 12 team.
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I'd like to hear the interview this morning. he def meant what he said last week because he repeated himself multiple times in that interview. what did he say different today? his all out attack on Rodney was super weird and he came across as a hired hit man.
SparkNotes at the bottom
-The way Spradling and McGruder played on Saturday, they could start on any team in the country
-They outrebounded a very good Florida team. That was probably the difference
-Henriquez was a difference maker on defense
-If they play like they did Saturday during Big 12 play, they will probably finish in the 4-5 range in the Big 12
-People say that they basically have the same team back, but they are discounting just how valuable Jamar Samuels was
-Hope KSU fans appreciate oscar
-"I know oscar, but I'm not friends with oscar. You know, it's not like we're butt buddies (with a weird emphasis on the word 'butt')." -this is an actual quote
-Frank and Huggins did a tremendous job there
-Starting to get a flavor for motion offense, but they have to do it by committee
-The win against Florida validated oscar to the players.
-Gibson is a great screener. Would take him to lunch everyday just for setting such great screens. Doesn't have great lift though on offense
-McGruder and Spradling should get good shots as long as the bigs continue to set great screens for them
SparkNotes: He somehow changed his tune on McGruder and Spradling and now loves them. Not butt buddies with oscar, and wants KSU fans to know that. Gibson is fat and good at setting screens; should have free lunches daily. KSU probably will be an upper-third type Big 12 team.
I didn't read anything past this. My god how dumb is he?
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Patronizing ass.
It's like he went through Trim, Winters, and my tweets to him and addressed them line by line.
eff him.
He just realized that he doesn't like the amt of hate we bring.
eff him.
It took him three days, but he was able to finally look up who this jamar guy is that all the twitter haters were talking about and how there just wasn't much scoring lost.
eff him.
Also sound homophobic.
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Cowardly rough rider didn't address any of the points in my tweets.
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So we can conclude that he IS butt buddies with Shannon though, right?
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Cowardly rough rider didn't address any of the points in my tweets.
In his defense, he stopped being very interactive as soon as trim brought up wutang. So probs racist too.
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So we can conclude that he IS butt buddies with Shannon though, right?
The one tweet he didn't counter...
:horrorsurprise:
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Did someone ask on twitter if they were butt buddies?
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Did someone ask on twitter if they were butt buddies?
No, but it was heavily implied.
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I'd like to hear the interview this morning. he def meant what he said last week because he repeated himself multiple times in that interview. what did he say different today? his all out attack on Rodney was super weird and he came across as a hired hit man.
SparkNotes at the bottom
-The way Spradling and McGruder played on Saturday, they could start on any team in the country
-They outrebounded a very good Florida team. That was probably the difference
-Henriquez was a difference maker on defense
-If they play like they did Saturday during Big 12 play, they will probably finish in the 4-5 range in the Big 12
-People say that they basically have the same team back, but they are discounting just how valuable Jamar Samuels was
-Hope KSU fans appreciate oscar
-"I know oscar, but I'm not friends with oscar. You know, it's not like we're butt buddies (with a weird emphasis on the word 'butt')." -this is an actual quote
-Frank and Huggins did a tremendous job there
-Starting to get a flavor for motion offense, but they have to do it by committee
-The win against Florida validated oscar to the players.
-Gibson is a great screener. Would take him to lunch everyday just for setting such great screens. Doesn't have great lift though on offense
-McGruder and Spradling should get good shots as long as the bigs continue to set great screens for them
SparkNotes: He somehow changed his tune on McGruder and Spradling and now loves them. Not butt buddies with oscar, and wants KSU fans to know that. Gibson is fat and good at setting screens; should have free lunches daily. KSU probably will be an upper-third type Big 12 team.
I didn't read anything past this. My god how dumb is he?
Obviously the Big 12 is going to have 3-4 out of the top 5 teams in the country, problem solved.
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well Matt Doherty is a model for extracting every bit from your players.
Still laughing at this one...LOL
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I'd like to hear the interview this morning. he def meant what he said last week because he repeated himself multiple times in that interview. what did he say different today? his all out attack on Rodney was super weird and he came across as a hired hit man.
SparkNotes at the bottom
SparkNotes: He somehow changed his tune on McGruder and Spradling and now loves them. Not butt buddies with oscar, and wants KSU fans to know that. Gibson is fat and good at setting screens; should have free lunches daily. KSU probably will be an upper-third type Big 12 team.
I didn't read anything past this. My god how dumb is he?
Obviously the Big 12 is going to have 3-4 out of the top 5 teams in the country, problem solved.
I don't think I've heard the term "butt buddies" since I was in 7th grade. :lol:
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I don't think I've heard the term "butt buddies" since I was in 7th grade. :lol:
means nothing. you could be in 7th grade RIGHT NOW.
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Cowardly rough rider didn't address any of the points in my tweets.
In his defense, he stopped being very interactive as soon as trim brought up wutang. So probs racist too.
Forgot about that. :lol:
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Cal, this thing is starting to stink!
:lol:
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goEMAW is big part of my interest in KSUBB.
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I no longer like Matt...not sure that I ever did.
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so really, this was a BITB move by doherty. if we end up being awful, players suck and he was right. if we end up being good, oscar coached them up and he was right.
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He backed into it accidentally. Sometimes that happens when you let other ppl give you a strict script. I mean, ppl that have that power aren't always wrong.
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Is matt Doherty that guy that tried to ruin ND and UNC and failed miserably at SMU?
I always respected that guy for being the first outwardly gay mens bball coach, although he really hasn't done any favors to the gay community. He clearly doesn't know jackshit about basketball.
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french cuffs? nice.
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french cuffs? nice.
No belt? Does that mean his suspenders fell off? :sdeek:
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french cuffs? nice.
No belt? Does that mean his suspenders fell off? :sdeek:
Do they still make Sansabelt pants? :dunno:
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i'm not gonna cook it but i'll order it from SANSABELT
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i'm not gonna cook it but i'll order it from SANSABELT
elite post from mocat as usual
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The latest from French Cuffs
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=374&f=959561
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Doherty totally ruined my drive to work the other day, can't stand listening to him. I do have to LOL at how far out of his way he goes to trash a guy he recruited and failed to land (Gip) though.
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Seriously, what did we do to this guy?? Also....still thinks games are played in Kemper! :lol:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9038485 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9038485)
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Seriously, what did we do to this guy?? Also....still thinks games are played in Kemper! :lol:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9038485 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9038485)
What a JACKASS. Kemper... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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What a dumbass. Is Doherty trying to BITB us?
Royal Ivey isn't walking through the Kemper Arena doors, Matty!
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Says we're losing to Texas in the Big 12 tourney :lol: :lol: :lol:
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such a clown.
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That game in Kemper is going to be a "blast" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Matt Doherty looks like smells like crap. I bet he smokes Benson & hedges in his garage with the door cracked, and has really long, cracked, yellow stained fingernails.
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He's in the 4th layer of Inception. There's no returning. He's in to deep.
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Says we're losing to Texas in the Big 12 tourney :lol: :lol: :lol:
By 20, nonetheless.
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If the game is in Kemper, my fears are either A) we lose by forfeit as our team will show and Sprint and be like "what the heck", or
B) Assbury emerge from the tunnel and be our Head Coach.
We're screwed. Forget about playing in the Kemper pod the following week too.
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His freckles are turning into liver spots, GNSP Matt's liver, you must be hard as a rock.
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I hope Matt goes to Kemper by mistake the day they implode it.
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Dude is so mad that we tied KU. What a sad bitter man.
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Seriously, what did we do to this guy?? Also....still thinks games are played in Kemper! :lol:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9038485 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9038485)
wow. will ferrell as harry caray is more informative than matt doherty
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We're just not a talented team. Only 3 players on the all-Big 12 teams.
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This is all oscar's doing. oscar is a talented coach that will squeeze every drop of ability out of our mediocre players.
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The Cats struggled against Texas so much this year, so I can see how he came to this conclusion.
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Says we're losing to Texas in the Big 12 tourney :lol: :lol: :lol:
By 20, nonetheless.
He said we are going to lose to UT by 20?
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We're screwed. Forget about playing in the Kemper pod the following week too.
:lol: :lol:
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Says we're losing to Texas in the Big 12 tourney :lol: :lol: :lol:
By 20, nonetheless.
He said we are going to lose to UT by 20?
If you followed me on twitter you would have known that yesterday.
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Says we're losing to Texas in the Big 12 tourney :lol: :lol: :lol:
By 20, nonetheless.
He said we are going to lose to UT by 20?
If you followed me on twitter you would have known that yesterday.
The lose to TX by 20 is ridic, but is still a more reasonable talking point than his Rodney one.
Also, if oscar does fail at KSU, Doherty's face will be one of the first 3 or 4 I immediately twitter mush.
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he is really good at trolling you guys :lol:
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He's an ugly man.
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Also, if oscar does fail at KSU, Doherty's face will be one of the first 3 or 4 I immediately twitter mush.
This. Dude is such a clown.
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he is really good at trolling you guys :lol:
Yeah I think when he said Kemper it pretty much gave it away. If he honestly believes its in Kemper then he shouldn't be on TV...
Good for him, though. Wish I would have thought of the Kemper thing.
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Says we're losing to Texas in the Big 12 tourney :lol: :lol: :lol:
By 20, nonetheless.
He said we are going to lose to UT by 20?
If you followed me on twitter you would have known that yesterday.
no thanks
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who is matt doherty
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who is matt doherty
Didn't he play Dylan on 90120 Beverly Hills?
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who is matt doherty
Didn't he play Dylan on 90120 Beverly Hills?
no he played Dylan's bitchy sister, duh.
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who is matt doherty
Didn't he play Dylan on 90120 Beverly Hills?
no he played Dylan's bitchy sister, duh.
lol
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Nice prediction Matt Dumbass! :lol:
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I kind of feel bad for the guy
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Nice prediction Matt Dumbass! :lol:
1. Air Force will beat UNLV............... Strike 1
2. Texas will beat Kstate................ Strike 2
3. Wasnt his 3rd prediction that Mizzou was gonna win the SEC tourney??
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Nice prediction Matt Dumbass! :lol:
1. Air Force will beat UNLV............... Strike 1
2. Texas will beat Kstate................ Strike 2
3. Wasnt his 3rd prediction that Mizzou was gonna win the SEC tourney??
Indeed it was. He sucks at predictions just like he sucks at being an analyst and at being a coach. He just sucks at life in general.
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I wonder if he went to Kemper.
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I wonder if he went to Kemper.
He was trying to be Bold and Daring. But AF, Texas and Kemper??? Ya, he just came out being Dumb and Ugly
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Can't stand the bad person.
Put a call in to Norway to some of my boys that dabble in the "Black Arts". Let's just say Matt may be heading for a rough stretch. ;)
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I kind of feel bad for the guy
I do not.