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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: Dugout DickStone on December 15, 2012, 11:20:11 PM
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There are less than 70 people on the basketball board.
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:babywillie:
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Lethal to wild wildcats. :frown:
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:babywillie:
I c u bro
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unbelievable how fragile the basketball program was
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unbelievable how fragile the basketball program was
beautiful things are often fragile.
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It wasn't fragile. It was pretty sturdy. But cutting the head off of anything will eff it up pretty badly.
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unbelievable how fragile the basketball program was
beautiful things are often fragile.
i love you during basketball season man.
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Every program is fragile when the wrong coach is there - every football superpower(Bama, OU, USC, etc) has had it get away from them after bad hires. Even happened to UNC with Doherty and he was coaching an team of NBA types that would go on to win the NC.
We, as a general fanbase, will still care more than all the rest of the conference schools but KU, so it could come back with the right hire.
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It wasn't fragile. It was pretty sturdy. But cutting the head off of anything will eff it up pretty badly.
Yeah, any rational hire would have kept momentum. Instead, a hotel lock in, knee jerk hire made by Gene Keady based on whether anyone had something bad to say about the hire happened and the results are EXACTLY as expected.
This is what most predicted and was not hard to foresee. That's why it is blowing up so quickly
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We've played two legit teams and have been blown out by both. Even against the mediocre and piss-poor teams, we've struggled some.
We just had the opportunity to watch a Big 12 championship football team that did all the little things right. They didn't make mistakes, commit penalties, turn the ball over, etc. They played within themselves, stuck to the plan and gave maximum effort at all times. The result is one of the top 4 or 5 best seasons in school history.
Watching this basketball team is the exact opposite. The team makes mistakes, is fundamentally unsound and appears not to know what the hell is going on. They get beat to loose balls, they get dominated in the paint, and can't shoot to save their lives. The result is going to be a season of massive disappointment.
That is extremely frustrating. Apathy is what we should expect from the fanbase.
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unbelievable how fragile the basketball program was
beautiful things are often fragile.
Nature's first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf's a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
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unbelievable how fragile the basketball program was
beautiful things are often fragile.
Nature's first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf's a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
Angel can. Angel is our Ponyboy.
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Nothing gold can stay.
THE WORLD is charged with the grandeur of God.
It will flame out, like shining from shook foil;
It gathers to a greatness, like the ooze of oil
Crushed. Why do men then now not reck his rod?
Generations have trod, have trod, have trod;
And all is seared with trade; bleared, smeared with toil;
And wears man’s smudge and shares man’s smell: the soil
Is bare now, nor can foot feel, being shod.
And for all this, nature is never spent;
There lives the dearest freshness deep down things;
And though the last lights off the black West went
Oh, morning, at the brown brink eastward, springs—
Because the Holy Ghost over the bent
World broods with warm breast and with ah! bright wings.
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the holy ghost is art, btw.
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unbelievable how fragile the basketball program was
beautiful things are often fragile.
Nature's first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf's a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
Angel can. Angel is our Ponyboy.
Maybe, but our Dallas, Darry, Soda Pop, Two Bit, etc are all a bunch of pussies. The Soc's (KU) are gonna kill us so hard.
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Some say the world will end in fire.
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire,
I hold with those who favor fire.
But, if it had to perish twice,
I think I've learned enough of hate
To say that for destruction
Ice is also great and would suffice.
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I was thinking today about how Currie is never going to fire oscar because that will mean he has to admit he was wrong.
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I love the "it takes time to put in a new offense" talking-point that Fran was trying to feed us on TV last night. Remember when Brad Underwood put in a new offense over a 9 day xmas holiday.
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Weak-hearted canary checking in. Have not watched a game yet. May not. May not watch one at all.
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I love the "it takes time to put in a new offense" talking-point that Fran was trying to feed us on TV last night. Remember when Brad Underwood put in a new offense over a 9 day xmas holiday.
And oscar got 10 extra practices and a trip to Brazil with games.
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Like I keep saying, we have a JYC brick and board team trying to run a "pretty" mid major motion offense designed for a bunch of mid major H-O-R-S-E champions who will on occasion pull off a big win.
Last night was yet more proof that if you play hard nosed defense against oscar's offense no one can get open for clean shots.
This is akin to taking a football team who had run the Power I for years and installing the 4 and 5 wide spread and you went out and recruited no spread QB's and associated components.
#burnitdown :flush:
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I was thinking today about how Currie is never going to fire oscar because that will mean he has to admit he was wrong.
Most definitely. It has a Pioli quality to it. Candy wrappers vs. Western Union receipts
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I love the "it takes time to put in a new offense" talking-point that Fran was trying to feed us on TV last night. Remember when Brad Underwood put in a new offense over a 9 day xmas holiday.
If I hear another dickface announcer/talking head say what a great coach oscar is during the game I am going to fracking lose it. It has happened every game that I have watched. How is this possible? How can it be that we all know he is a terrible coach, he got fired for being a terrible coach, and he is a terrible coach, yet people keep saying what a great coach he is? It is maddening.
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I love the "it takes time to put in a new offense" talking-point that Fran was trying to feed us on TV last night. Remember when Brad Underwood put in a new offense over a 9 day xmas holiday.
If I hear another dickface announcer/talking head say what a great coach oscar is during the game I am going to fracking lose it. It has happened every game that I have watched. How is this possible? How can it be that we all know he is a terrible coach, he got fired for being a terrible coach, and he is a terrible coach, yet people keep saying what a great coach he is? It is maddening.
everyone loves oscar, he's a nice guy
Even if they didn't love him they aren't going to call him a horrible coach. If you watch a Illinois game or listen to a basketball analyst on the radio or a podcast talk about Illinois you have to read between the lines to hear them call him horrible.
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If I hear another dickface announcer/talking head say what a great coach oscar is during the game I am going to fracking lose it. It has happened every game that I have watched. How is this possible? How can it be that we all know he is a terrible coach, he got fired for being a terrible coach, and he is a terrible coach, yet people keep saying what a great coach he is? It is maddening.
Easy answer: 2004-2005. That season evidently still holds weight.
Illinois under Weber, with all Bill Self recruits, started 29-0 and was the most dominant team in the country and it wasn't close. Unfortunately they played their worst game of the season in the national championship game. That team didn't just win, they destroyed and demoralized opponents.
But it took 5 guys who all were at least fringe NBA players. One of which was Deron Williams, arguably the world's best point guard. Deron took over that team and forced them to become great.
Ever since then Weber has been waiting for another Deron Williams to come along and again make his system successful in spite of itself. The unfortunate thing for Weber is, Deron is a rare bird and he has zero chance of recruiting another Deron.
When he has NBA-caliber players, one of which being an All-World point guard, he looks pretty damn good. When he doesn't, his flaws as a person and coach are exposed and things get ugly both on and off the court. This is oscar Weber.
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Anyone else find it weird having dax on our side?
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Has KSU ever hired a coach where fans of his prior team were upset to see him leave?
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Has KSU ever hired a coach where fans of his prior team were upset to see him leave?
Huggs
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Has KSU ever hired a coach where fans of his prior team were upset to see him leave?
Huggs
Yep.
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I bet there were some pepperdine tucks upset to see TA go but :dunno:
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I love the "it takes time to put in a new offense" talking-point that Fran was trying to feed us on TV last night. Remember when Brad Underwood put in a new offense over a 9 day xmas holiday.
to be fair, they were pretty ugly the first two games they played after changing the offense.
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Weak-hearted canary checking in. Have not watched a game yet. May not. May not watch one at all.
What is popular in Egypt?
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I love the "it takes time to put in a new offense" talking-point that Fran was trying to feed us on TV last night. Remember when Brad Underwood put in a new offense over a 9 day xmas holiday.
to be fair, they were pretty ugly the first two games they played after changing the offense.
True.
Continuity offenses mixed with some sets for reasonably talented basketball players who understand structure aren't tough to pick up.
Motion offense concepts that require players to make decisions on their own much more often require much more talented players. oscar's ability to take away almost every offensive strength that this team had has been surprising to me, but he's achieved it. And it will be extremely tough to undo what's already done and I don't see much room for improvement for this team to figure out how to play in this system.
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Have we played w any passion since the elbow fest that was stopped short in Brazil? We went to Brazil a Frank JYC team and returned a oscar team.
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