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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: BMWWcat on December 09, 2012, 09:44:38 PM
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For "giving guns to minorities"? should he now call all bars racists for serving alcohol to minorities? Don't respond if you don't know what I'm making fun of.
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For "giving guns to minorities"? should he now call all bars racists for serving alcohol to minorities? Don't respond if you don't know what I'm making fun of.
car dealers too?
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For "giving guns to minorities"? should he now call all bars racists for serving alcohol to minorities? Don't respond if you don't know what I'm making fun of.
car dealers too?
Well played!
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the NRA is pretty racist fwiw
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the NRA is pretty racist fwiw
but only because it is full of racists.
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the NRA is pretty racist fwiw
but only because it is full of racists.
At least they're not homophobic, they allow Larry Craig to be on the board of directors.
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the NRA is pretty racist fwiw
but only because it is full of racists.
At least they're not homophobic, they allow Larry Craig to be on the board of directors.
oh they're violently homophobic
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Sheesh, Larry Craig is probably a bigger homophobe than most of their members.
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Ollie North is on the board too. Isn't he a felon?
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Whitlock is a racist
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Whitlock is a racist
impossible. he likes basketball.
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Whitlock is a racist
Whitlock is fantastic discussing race. Everybody who's not smart thinks he's a racist.
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Whitlock is a racist
Whitlock is fantastic discussing race. Everybody who's not smart thinks he's a racist.
lulz....no, just no...
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http://www.ibtimes.com/nra-head-lapierre-eight-years-demographically-symbolic-president-enough-1878465
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that was my takeaway too
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i had no idea that wayne lapierre was a resident proglib or a closeted proglib posing as a centrist. very interesting perspective, dax.
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What wayne lap's gE name?
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Was that a racist thing to say? I mean, I don't think it's racist to say that Obama will probably be remembered for being the first black president and little else (at least in terms of favorable things - Obamacare's going to keep rough ridin' us over for a very long time).
But I won't know for sure until I get a ruling from MIR.
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgiant.gfycat.com%2FCautiousPertinentCurlew.gif&hash=aefef3f6049072ea4cc1c445e66b51af02b7bbf9)
Dax posting after a "proglib" in these threads, just keep chasing
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Was that a racist thing to say? I mean, I don't think it's racist to say that Obama will probably be remembered for being the first black president and little else (at least in terms of favorable things - Obamacare's going to keep rough ridin' us over for a very long time).
But I won't know for sure until I get a ruling from MIR.
Yes, it was racist and misogynistic, given the context.
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That gif is pretty :lol:
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Was that a racist thing to say? I mean, I don't think it's racist to say that Obama will probably be remembered for being the first black president and little else (at least in terms of favorable things - Obamacare's going to keep rough ridin' us over for a very long time).
But I won't know for sure until I get a ruling from MIR.
Yes, it was racist and misogynistic, given the context.
Please explain. Do you mean simply the context of this being the NRA, or something else?
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Was that a racist thing to say? I mean, I don't think it's racist to say that Obama will probably be remembered for being the first black president and little else (at least in terms of favorable things - Obamacare's going to keep rough ridin' us over for a very long time).
But I won't know for sure until I get a ruling from MIR.
Yes, it was racist and misogynistic, given the context.
Please explain. Do you mean simply the context of this being the NRA, or something else?
When you say "Eight years of a demographically symbolic president is enough" you imply that the only reason people voted for Obama is because he is black and that the only reason people would vote for Hillary is because she is a woman.
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Was that a racist thing to say? I mean, I don't think it's racist to say that Obama will probably be remembered for being the first black president and little else (at least in terms of favorable things - Obamacare's going to keep rough ridin' us over for a very long time).
But I won't know for sure until I get a ruling from MIR.
Yes, it was racist and misogynistic, given the context.
Please explain. Do you mean simply the context of this being the NRA, or something else?
When you say "Eight years of a demographically symbolic president is enough" you imply that the only reason people voted for Obama is because he is black and that the only reason people would vote for Hillary is because she is a woman.
Judging from turnout among demographics, that is the only reason a lot of people voted for Obama, and I think it's safe to say that it was at least a reason for many others. Feel free to disagree, but I think you're delusional if you do. I would agree that voting for someone based on their race is racist, but I don't think pointing that out is racist.
I also don't think it's a stretch to assume the same will be true for Hillary. She'll get at least some bump in turnout from young and female voters who otherwise wouldn't vote based simply on the opportunity to elect "THE FIRST" (though I think this won't be as strong as Obama's edge).
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Was that a racist thing to say? I mean, I don't think it's racist to say that Obama will probably be remembered for being the first black president and little else (at least in terms of favorable things - Obamacare's going to keep rough ridin' us over for a very long time).
But I won't know for sure until I get a ruling from MIR.
Yes, it was racist and misogynistic, given the context.
Please explain. Do you mean simply the context of this being the NRA, or something else?
When you say "Eight years of a demographically symbolic president is enough" you imply that the only reason people voted for Obama is because he is black and that the only reason people would vote for Hillary is because she is a woman.
Judging from turnout among demographics, that is the only reason a lot of people voted for Obama, and I think it's safe to say that it was at least a reason for many others. Feel free to disagree, but I think you're delusional if you do. I would agree that voting for someone based on their race is racist, but I don't think pointing that out is racist.
I also don't think it's a stretch to assume the same will be true for Hillary. She'll get at least some bump in turnout from young and female voters who otherwise wouldn't vote based simply on the opportunity to elect "THE FIRST" (though I think this won't be as strong as Obama's edge).
I'm sure some people voted for Obama because he's black. I'm sure others voted against him because he's black. I'm also sure the guy who gets up behind a podium and says "eight years of a demographically symbolic president is enough" is one of the people who didn't vote for him because he's black.
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Was that a racist thing to say? I mean, I don't think it's racist to say that Obama will probably be remembered for being the first black president and little else (at least in terms of favorable things - Obamacare's going to keep rough ridin' us over for a very long time).
But I won't know for sure until I get a ruling from MIR.
Yes, it was racist and misogynistic, given the context.
Please explain. Do you mean simply the context of this being the NRA, or something else?
When you say "Eight years of a demographically symbolic president is enough" you imply that the only reason people voted for Obama is because he is black and that the only reason people would vote for Hillary is because she is a woman.
Judging from turnout among demographics, that is the only reason a lot of people voted for Obama, and I think it's safe to say that it was at least a reason for many others. Feel free to disagree, but I think you're delusional if you do. I would agree that voting for someone based on their race is racist, but I don't think pointing that out is racist.
I also don't think it's a stretch to assume the same will be true for Hillary. She'll get at least some bump in turnout from young and female voters who otherwise wouldn't vote based simply on the opportunity to elect "THE FIRST" (though I think this won't be as strong as Obama's edge).
How do the "he only won because he's" black people square the fact that there have been other mainstream black candidates that all did poorly, including one in the last election?
Also why do these same people just disregard the amount of people who absolutely didn't vote for him because he's black?
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I also need to know why Wayne Lapierre and the NRA hate Obama so much and insist he's such a threat to their second amendment rights? There are more guns in the hands of American citizens than there ever have been. Additionally he and his administration have done absolutely nothing policy wise to hamper gun ownership in this country. His gun control record is abhorrent and the NRA should shut the eff up instead of calling people's attention to this stuff because it's going to become a bigger deal that he's done nothing. He gave two, speeches/statements; one after the Tuscon shooting and one after Sandy Hook, and has done crap else. What the hell do these wackos want?
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Was that a racist thing to say? I mean, I don't think it's racist to say that Obama will probably be remembered for being the first black president and little else (at least in terms of favorable things - Obamacare's going to keep rough ridin' us over for a very long time).
But I won't know for sure until I get a ruling from MIR.
Yes, it was racist and misogynistic, given the context.
Please explain. Do you mean simply the context of this being the NRA, or something else?
When you say "Eight years of a demographically symbolic president is enough" you imply that the only reason people voted for Obama is because he is black and that the only reason people would vote for Hillary is because she is a woman.
Judging from turnout among demographics, that is the only reason a lot of people voted for Obama, and I think it's safe to say that it was at least a reason for many others. Feel free to disagree, but I think you're delusional if you do. I would agree that voting for someone based on their race is racist, but I don't think pointing that out is racist.
I also don't think it's a stretch to assume the same will be true for Hillary. She'll get at least some bump in turnout from young and female voters who otherwise wouldn't vote based simply on the opportunity to elect "THE FIRST" (though I think this won't be as strong as Obama's edge).
How do the "he only won because he's" black people square the fact that there have been other mainstream black candidates that all did poorly, including one in the last election?
Also why do these same people just disregard the amount of people who absolutely didn't vote for him because he's black?
Obama was picked, then protected, by the media. They could have destroyed him by simply asking questions. They did destroy Hillary.
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:lol:
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Media :curse:
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Exactly! :curse:
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guys what if john dougie is really a liberal media plant acting as an outsider perhaps the liberal media machine has become self-aware quick to the ayn rand bunker before it's too late
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Maybe it's, in part, because of how virulent the media was towards W, but b.o. has to be the most babied and least confronted president in any of our lifetimes. The stuff that W did that had the media calling him a traitor is a fraction of what this lunatic does, not to mention his wholly undemocratic viewpoint of law, regulation and policy.
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Yeah, I'm still not seeing the controversy over Wayne's opinion. Seems like a valid opinion. Race, gender, and the cult of personality are extremely important to libtard voters, outweighing experience or qualifications. Let's try this a different way - anybody here want to seriously suggest that Barack Obama would have defeated Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primary if he wasn't black?
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He basically said "we tried a black, do you really want to try a woman?", if you don't think that's offensive then that's telling.
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Yeah, I'm still not seeing the controversy over Wayne's opinion. Seems like a valid opinion. Race, gender, and the cult of personality are extremely important to libtard voters, outweighing experience or qualifications. Let's try this a different way - anybody here want to seriously suggest that Barack Obama would have defeated Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primary if he wasn't black?
:Lurk:
That's a good point. White men never win the democratic primary. No way Obama does if he's not black.
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He basically said "we tried a black, do you really want to try a woman?", if you don't think that's offensive then that's telling.
No he didn't. He said "we voted for somebody because he's black (well, not us, but the libtards), do you really want to vote for someone because she's a woman?"
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Yeah, I'm still not seeing the controversy over Wayne's opinion. Seems like a valid opinion. Race, gender, and the cult of personality are extremely important to libtard voters, outweighing experience or qualifications. Let's try this a different way - anybody here want to seriously suggest that Barack Obama would have defeated Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primary if he wasn't black?
That's a good point. White men never wen the democratic primary. No way Obama does if he's not black.
Nice dodge. You're really going to pretend Obama's race wan't a big reason he beat Hillary. You're really going to do it. Ok then. :whistle1:
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If Cruz or Rubio win, will it be because they are Hispanic?
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Yeah, I'm still not seeing the controversy over Wayne's opinion. Seems like a valid opinion. Race, gender, and the cult of personality are extremely important to libtard voters, outweighing experience or qualifications. Let's try this a different way - anybody here want to seriously suggest that Barack Obama would have defeated Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primary if he wasn't black?
That's a good point. White men never wen the democratic primary. No way Obama does if he's not black.
Nice dodge. You're really going to pretend Obama's race wan't a big reason he beat Hillary. You're really going to do it. Ok then. :whistle1:
Obama was way more hurt by his race than helped by his race. He basically said president's should only be white male's unless said women don't know where Russia is, then you can vote for her.
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If Cruz or Rubio win, will it be because they are Hispanic?
Apples to oranges. The people that will vote for them have different requirements for a president than those that voted for Obama.
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Oh, ok. :lol:
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:Take the Bait:
If Cruz or Rubio win, will it be because they are Hispanic?
Apples to oranges. The people that will vote for them have different requirements for a president than those that voted for Obama.
And this is what racism looks like.
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the nra should release demographic info to help prove how tolerant and unracist it is.
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the nra should release demographic info to help prove how tolerant and unracist it is.
Pretty sure anybody can be a member.
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the nra should release demographic info to help prove how tolerant and unracist it is.
Pretty sure anybody can be a member.
ok, it would be funny to see the nra's demos.
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the nra should release demographic info to help prove how tolerant and unracist it is.
Pretty sure anybody can be a member.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2828425/The-Ku-Klux-Klan-opens-door-Jews-black-people-homosexuals-new-recruits-wear-white-robes-hats.html
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I don't think the statement was bad because he was saying something about Obama or Hillary. I think it was bad because it looks an awful lot like he was saying something about any black or woman president.
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the nra should release demographic info to help prove how tolerant and unracist it is.
Pretty sure anybody can be a member.
ok, it would be funny to see the nra's demos.
I doubt they ask, or care, about that information when you join.
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everyone knows ginormous non-profit's generally do not care about the demographics of their members and donors.
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There are demographics for gun owners if you want to look at that. Not too shocking.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.people-press.org%2Ffiles%2F2013%2F03%2F3-12-13-14.png&hash=edb0b3b91a85eb8edcbe031fcd69bb2216b1cbd1)
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everyone shut up and appreciate chum1's post. nailed it.
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There are demographics for gun owners if you want to look at that. Not too shocking.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.people-press.org%2Ffiles%2F2013%2F03%2F3-12-13-14.png&hash=edb0b3b91a85eb8edcbe031fcd69bb2216b1cbd1)
Would the responses have been different if the question was phrased, "Do you have a gun"?
:dunno:
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I don't think the statement was bad because he was saying something about Obama or Hillary. I think it was bad because it looks an awful lot like he was saying something about any black or woman president.
Only if you're stupid and looking for a grievance. He wasn't criticizing race or gender per se - he was criticizing "The FIRST" derangement syndrome, which causes its victims to abandon all reason and simply vote for the sake of "The FIRST." How is that not apparent?
Did I "nail it" seven?
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no, as dax would say "you're flailing, and it's . . . sad
really"
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I don't think the statement was bad because he was saying something about Obama or Hillary. I think it was bad because it looks an awful lot like he was saying something about any black or woman president.
Only if you're stupid and looking for a grievance. He wasn't criticizing race or gender per se - he was criticizing "The FIRST" derangement syndrome, which causes its victims to abandon all reason and simply vote for the sake of "The FIRST." How is that not apparent?
That's one interpretation. There are others, equally plausible. But you know how at your job they tell you that you can get fired for sexual harassment or the even the mere appearance of sexual harassment? Appearances matter. And his statement was bad because, to many, it makes him look like a sexist, racist eff (that, let's be honest, he probably is).
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I don't think the statement was bad because he was saying something about Obama or Hillary. I think it was bad because it looks an awful lot like he was saying something about any black or woman president.
Only if you're stupid and looking for a grievance. He wasn't criticizing race or gender per se - he was criticizing "The FIRST" derangement syndrome, which causes its victims to abandon all reason and simply vote for the sake of "The FIRST." How is that not apparent?
That's one interpretation. There are others, equally plausible.
No, there aren't. There's the correct interpretation based on logic and common sense, and then there's stupid grievance mongering. But no point in arguing it further. People will choose to misinterpret him if that fits their preconception and desire for a grievance.
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Can a bought and paid for automaton be a racist, sexist eff?
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"40-odd demographically-similar presidents is enough" might result in someone being accused as a racist or sexist
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Can a bought and paid for automaton be a racist, sexist eff?
they'll fight tooth and nail to defend this lobbyist guy
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I don't think the statement was bad because he was saying something about Obama or Hillary. I think it was bad because it looks an awful lot like he was saying something about any black or woman president.
Only if you're stupid and looking for a grievance. He wasn't criticizing race or gender per se - he was criticizing "The FIRST" derangement syndrome, which causes its victims to abandon all reason and simply vote for the sake of "The FIRST." How is that not apparent?
That's one interpretation. There are others, equally plausible.
No, there aren't.
Here's another: demographically symbolic means that each demographic gets its turn, regardless of whether it's their first time or not. Of the two, this could be even more plausible because the guy didn't say anything about the notion of a first. Nevertheless, the appearance is what I said was bad, and that has almost nothing to do with plausible interpretaitions.
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If Cruz or Rubio win, will it be because they are Hispanic?
Apples to oranges. The people that will vote for them have different requirements for a president than those that voted for Obama.
this essentially reads as "niggers are stupid"
Why do you guys make the choice to sound like racists instead of acknowledging that lots of people didn't want Obama to be president because he's black. When you can't acknowledge that FACT it makes me think you're in denial because you don't want to view your choice through those glasses.
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mir, the politically correct term now is "low information voter"
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If Cruz or Rubio win, will it be because they are Hispanic?
Apples to oranges. The people that will vote for them have different requirements for a president than those that voted for Obama.
this essentially reads as "niggers are stupid"
Why do you guys make the choice to sound like racists instead of acknowledging that lots of people didn't want Obama to be president because he's black. When you can't acknowledge that FACT it makes me think you're in denial because you don't want to view your choice through those glasses.
It is a commentary on liberal voters versus conservative voters. I would have made the same comment if he had used Cain and Rice.
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If Cruz or Rubio win, will it be because they are Hispanic?
Apples to oranges. The people that will vote for them have different requirements for a president than those that voted for Obama.
this essentially reads as "niggers are stupid"
Why do you guys make the choice to sound like racists instead of acknowledging that lots of people didn't want Obama to be president because he's black. When you can't acknowledge that FACT it makes me think you're in denial because you don't want to view your choice through those glasses.
First, whether or not people decided not to vote for Obama based on his race does not change the fact that many people did just the opposite, which was a big factor in beating out Hillary in 2008 and his road to the WH. That's all that Wayne was talking about.
Second, you appear to be saying that there are a bunch of racist Dems who would have voted Dem but stayed home or went against obama because he was black. Interesting admission.
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If Cruz or Rubio win, will it be because they are Hispanic?
Apples to oranges. The people that will vote for them have different requirements for a president than those that voted for Obama.
this essentially reads as "niggers are stupid"
Why do you guys make the choice to sound like racists instead of acknowledging that lots of people didn't want Obama to be president because he's black. When you can't acknowledge that FACT it makes me think you're in denial because you don't want to view your choice through those glasses.
It is a commentary on liberal voters versus conservative voters. I would have made the same comment if he had used Cain and Rice.
They'll take any comment touching on race and make it racist. Pathetic and predictable.
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Maybe don't constantly say racist things and people will start to give you the benefit of the doubt
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The fact that we have to hunt this hard for racism and sexist, means we probably live in the most tolerant society in the history of earth. We'll done, American friends, well done.
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Why Hillary? "Because She's a Woman" (http://campusreform.org/?ID=6452)
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Why not Hillary? Because she's a woman. (http://www.ibtimes.com/nra-head-lapierre-eight-years-demographically-symbolic-president-enough-1878465)
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When do you guys think the first gun will be elected president?
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When do you guys think the first gun will be elected president?
Andrew Jackson was elected in 1829.
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Why not Hillary? Because she's a woman. (http://www.ibtimes.com/nra-head-lapierre-eight-years-demographically-symbolic-president-enough-1878465)
This is the mentality Wayne was criticizing, as I said. It was not in any way racist.
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Wonder if ksuw would be bold enough to condemn wayne for saying he wouldn't vote for a woman or non-white. My guess is he won't
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Wonder if ksuw would be bold enough to condemn wayne for saying he wouldn't vote for a woman or non-white. My guess is he won't
What? He didn't say that.
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Wonder if ksuw would be bold enough to condemn wayne for saying he wouldn't vote for a woman or non-white. My guess is he won't
What? He didn't say that.
just a perfectly alright thing to say in ol' ksuw's world
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If Cruz or Rubio win, will it be because they are Hispanic?
Apples to oranges. The people that will vote for them have different requirements for a president than those that voted for Obama.
this essentially reads as "niggers are stupid"
Why do you guys make the choice to sound like racists instead of acknowledging that lots of people didn't want Obama to be president because he's black. When you can't acknowledge that FACT it makes me think you're in denial because you don't want to view your choice through those glasses.
First, whether or not people decided not to vote for Obama based on his race does not change the fact that many people did just the opposite, which was a big factor in beating out Hillary in 2008 and his road to the WH. That's all that Wayne was talking about.
Second, you appear to be saying that there are a bunch of racist Dems who would have voted Dem but stayed home or went against obama because he was black. Interesting admission.
What the eff is such an interesting admission about saying that there's racist democrats and independents? Who in the hell ever said all racists are republicans and all republicans are racists? Race is easier to talk about when you drop the persecution complex.
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Race is easier to talk about when you drop the persecution complex.
ZOMG what an amazing quote from MIR.
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If Cruz or Rubio win, will it be because they are Hispanic?
Apples to oranges. The people that will vote for them have different requirements for a president than those that voted for Obama.
this essentially reads as "niggers are stupid"
Why do you guys make the choice to sound like racists instead of acknowledging that lots of people didn't want Obama to be president because he's black. When you can't acknowledge that FACT it makes me think you're in denial because you don't want to view your choice through those glasses.
First, whether or not people decided not to vote for Obama based on his race does not change the fact that many people did just the opposite, which was a big factor in beating out Hillary in 2008 and his road to the WH. That's all that Wayne was talking about.
Second, you appear to be saying that there are a bunch of racist Dems who would have voted Dem but stayed home or went against obama because he was black. Interesting admission.
In Kentucky and West Virginia there absolutely were racists Dems that voted against Obama, that not that shocking. IMO
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Is there a NPA(national pistol association)?
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Is there a NPA(national pistol association)?
http://www.idpa.com/
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Is there a NPA(national pistol association)?
http://www.idpa.com/
Host a match?? I can only assume that's some kind of 18th century dual. :love: