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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Pete on November 04, 2012, 10:34:58 AM
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I did some research, and while there is loads of information out there about how to diagnose concussions and about their impact (see below), there is little or no consensus in the medical community about how to speed the recovery from concussions...they seems to suggest that merely time will heal this wound.
Unacceptable.
We need to get this rough rider turned over to the Lord, ASAP. There is no better way to turn an injury over to the Lord than through the employ of a credible faith healer. This can be accomplished in a number of ways; laying of hands; snakes; incantations, etc. The more the better, IMO.
Basically, here is how this works:
Step 1: Faith heal the crap out of Collin
Step 2: Collin gains confidence, loses anxiety about the injury, vis-a-vis the holy spirit ("holy ghost")
Step 3: Test cool cucumber Collin Klein on any number of concussion symptom examinations, which he will rough ridin' nail
Step 4: Crush TCU
Look, we know that there are a ton of athletic department types who read this board. My hope is that they review this plan and understand its basically our best (only?) option for beating TCU.
http://www.centerforbrainhealth.net/Assessment%20Services/concussion.html
FACTS about sports concussion...
1. Twenty percent of all concussions are sports-related
2. A concussion doesn’t always knock you out
3. Having one concussion increases your chances of having another
4. Symptoms of a concussion can last hours, days, weeks, months, or indefinitely
5. Concussion can cause disability affecting school, work, and social life
6. Returning to contact or collision sports before you have completely recovered from a concussion may lead to more serious injury and can increase your chances of long-term problems
When it is safe to return to play after concussion?
There are several guidelines for return to play after concussion. All of these share some common principles:
1. An athlete who has suffered a concussion should be removed from competition immediately and monitored for post-concussion symptoms
2. An athlete should not return to play before he or she is completely symptom-free at rest and after exertion for a specified period of time, which varies based on the athlete’s history and the severity of the concussion.
3. Athletes who have a history of one or more previous concussions should be treated more cautiously (not returned to play as quickly) than those who have suffered their first concussion
4. When in doubt, sit them out!
How can you tell when an athlete is symptom free?
An athlete should only return to competition when it is clear that there are no lingering symptoms of concussion. Unfortunately, because concussion is an invisible injury, and because athletes may minimize or not recognize persistent post-concussion, symptoms, this can be a tricky matter. Also, symptoms may sometimes go away, only to come back after physical or mental exertion.
Most often, return to play decisions are made without the benefit of neuropsychological testing and are based on observation and player report of symptoms. Neuropsychological testing provides the coach or team physician with information that can help to take the guesswork out of concussion management and return-to-play decisions. Using a battery of tests of memory, reaction time & processing speed, we can provide specific information regarding the severity of injury and a standard for evaluating recovery from injury. It is of benefit for athletes to receive baseline assessment prior to or at the beginning of the athletic season to allow for within-subjects analysis of scores following an injury.
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I'm pretty sure I already faith healed his concussion using remote psychic surgery.
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LOL at Bill giving a eff if he has a concussion.
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LOL at Bill giving a eff if he has a concussion.
Are you familiar with Matt Miller's story at all?
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LOL at Bill giving a eff if he has a concussion.
Are you familiar with Matt Miller's story at all?
:dubious:
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What happened with Miller?
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I would score in the 99 percentile for any concussion test and you can too. It's easy really.
Collin, if you're reading this, commit these words to memory:
Apple
Elbow
Saddle
Bubble
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thread title should win a csourky going away
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What happened with Miller?
Post concussion stuff, sad deal. Snyder is probably one of his biggest supporters, some say as a result of the guilt associated with being partially responsible for it. Let's just say that this is not Snyder's first spaghetti brained quarterback rodeo.
Snyder is like in love and stuff with CK. I have never, ever seen a Snyder QB get his helmet taken away. For example, Evridge was basically murdered to death at Tech, Justin Evans is being told to warm up because Evridge is dying from a brain melting concussion, and Snyder leaves Evridge in there.
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Seriously, has a KSU quarterback ever had their helmet taken away before? I got nothing...
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Ell could have played way earlier than he did.
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Who the eff is Justin Evans?
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What happened with Miller?
Post concussion stuff, sad deal. Snyder is probably one of his biggest supporters, some say as a result of the guilt associated with being partially responsible for it. Let's just say that this is not Snyder's first spaghetti brained quarterback rodeo.
Snyder is like in love and stuff with CK. I have never, ever seen a Snyder QB get his helmet taken away. For example, Evridge was basically murdered to death at Tech, Justin Evans is being told to warm up because Evridge is dying from a brain melting concussion, and Snyder leaves Evridge in there.
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What concussion? I thought he had a sprained wrist.......
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Do really poorly on your baseline testing and then the post-concussion stuff is no big deal
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Who the eff is Justin Evans?
You almost found out!
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Do really poorly on your baseline testing and then the post-concussion stuff is no big deal
I rough ridin' wish. Home schooled mandolin champs don't play rope a dope with brain tests. Next idea...
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Snyder says the injury occurred on a passing play, and I don't remember a bad sack. So it seems a concussion is not necessarily the injury.
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RT @davidubben Lots of folks tweeting me about an arm/wrist injury for Klein. Guys with hurt arms/wrists don't clap and don't have helmets taken away.
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RT @davidubben Lots of folks tweeting me about an arm/wrist injury for Klein. Guys with hurt arms/wrists don't clap and don't have helmets taken away.
Touche. When did he hit his head on a pass play? Did Bill scheme the media?
"Well, he got hurt on a pass, so if you can't run it and you can't throw it, well, you don't have much left," Snyder said.
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I guess I'd just point Bill to goals #1 - Committment, #5 - Be Tough, and #12 - No Self Limitations. Quit shitting all over your goals and play CK. Matt Miller should've probably not done so much coke.
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Do home schoolers get different concussion tests?
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Also, Tannahill had to be helped off the goddman field because he got his head hit so goddamn hard, but Bill ran his ass back out there.
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He took the shot to the head two plays before he scored the TD
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Snyder says the injury occurred on a passing play, and I don't remember a bad sack. So it seems a concussion is not necessarily the injury.
it is a concussion
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Wouldn't it be a good idea to have someone with a concussion get to the locker room and away from crowd noise? Seems like that would make some sense.
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He took the shot to the head two plays before he scored the TD
That wasn't a passing play. And if that caused a concussion he was cleared to play this morning. His head hit the ground, but not very hard, and he jumped up.
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He took the shot to the head two plays before he scored the TD
That wasn't a passing play. And if that caused a concussion he was cleared to play this morning. His head hit the ground, but not very hard, and he jumped up.
ok, believe what you want
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I don't disagree that it was some sort of a concussion, however it he got it on that shovel pass that to pease that he ended up keeping.....then bill ran his ass again on the next play which was originally called a touchdown.....then when they reviewed it, CK would have been standing on the goddamn sidelines next to and talking to bill and everyone while they reviewed it for like 2 minutes....and then after that Bill ran him and his alleged spaghetti brains on a QB sneak.
So, I mean, wtf, Bill.
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Snyder says the injury occurred on a passing play, and I don't remember a bad sack. So it seems a concussion is not necessarily the injury.
it is a concussion
would it be classified as mild? do we know the extent of his symptoms?
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I don't disagree that it was some sort of a concussion, however it he got it on that shovel pass that to pease that he ended up catching.....then bill ran his ass again on the next play which was originally called a touchdown.....then when they reviewed it, CK would have been standing on the goddamn sidelines next to and talking to bill and everyone while they reviewed it for like 2 minutes....and then after that Bill ran him and his alleged spaghetti brains on a QB sneak.
So, I mean, wtf, Bill.
does any of that surprise you?
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He took the shot to the head two plays before he scored the TD
That wasn't a passing play. And if that caused a concussion he was cleared to play this morning. His head hit the ground, but not very hard, and he jumped up.
ok, believe what you want
I'm not saying it wasn't a concussion, but it's not adding up. Either Bill's wrong or you are. It was an option play, and CK took a glancing blow from a LB, and hit his head on the ground. So I see what you're saying, but why did Bill say it was a passing play?
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I don't disagree that it was some sort of a concussion, however it he got it on that shovel pass that to pease that he ended up catching.....then bill ran his ass again on the next play which was originally called a touchdown.....then when they reviewed it, CK would have been standing on the goddamn sidelines next to and talking to bill and everyone while they reviewed it for like 2 minutes....and then after that Bill ran him and his alleged spaghetti brains on a QB sneak.
So, I mean, wtf, Bill.
does any of that surprise you?
No. I'm just still furious that he even took CK out of the game. All this crap does is cause unneeded distractions and drama. It's so f'ing Bill though. eff it all up in the end.
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He took the shot to the head two plays before he scored the TD
That wasn't a passing play. And if that caused a concussion he was cleared to play this morning. His head hit the ground, but not very hard, and he jumped up.
ok, believe what you want
I'm not saying it wasn't a concussion, but it's not adding up. Either Bill's wrong or you are. It was an option play, and CK took a glancing blow from a LB, and hit his head on the ground. So I see what you're saying, but why did Bill say it was a passing play?
the play was supposed to be a shovel pass to Pease, but CK correctly read the LB and kept it, when he was running around the end, a LB came over and gave him a shot with his pad to the helmet and CK hit his head on the turf.
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We have confirmed it was a concussion and it likely happened on that play. Collin apparently didn't know details of the drive when he came off the field.
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He took the shot to the head two plays before he scored the TD
That wasn't a passing play. And if that caused a concussion he was cleared to play this morning. His head hit the ground, but not very hard, and he jumped up.
ok, believe what you want
be sure to pm me any super secret insider emaw stuff, k?
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crap, an option is not a pass play Bill!
eff.
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I don't disagree that it was some sort of a concussion, however it he got it on that shovel pass that to pease that he ended up catching.....then bill ran his ass again on the next play which was originally called a touchdown.....then when they reviewed it, CK would have been standing on the goddamn sidelines next to and talking to bill and everyone while they reviewed it for like 2 minutes....and then after that Bill ran him and his alleged spaghetti brains on a QB sneak.
So, I mean, wtf, Bill.
does any of that surprise you?
No. I'm just still furious that he even took CK out of the game. All this crap does is cause unneeded distractions and drama. It's so f'ing Bill though. eff it all up in the end.
lol my god zacker.
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I think with the wrist play and the concussion play/plays :dunno: and the fact that OSU was maybe playing a little dirty Bill just got a bit paranoid about losing Klein and played it safe :dunno:
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We have confirmed it was a concussion and it likely happened on that play. Collin apparently didn't know details of the drive when he came off the field.
welp. turn out the rough ridin' lights. been a great season.
if you watch CK and his brother on the sidelines, that's probably what they were talking about. It looked like they were talking about plays.
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crap, an option is not a pass play Bill!
eff.
it was supposed to be a shovel "pass" you dimwit
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crap, an option is not a pass play Bill!
eff.
it was supposed to be a shovel "pass" you dimwit
eff you asshat, it was an option play. Keep, shovel, or throw to the wide receiver screen. Why do you think the whole opened up? The DB's were staying home cause TLBL or someone was standing there waiting for the ball.
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We have confirmed it was a concussion and it likely happened on that play. Collin apparently didn't know details of the drive when he came off the field.
welp. turn out the rough ridin' lights. been a great season.
if you watch CK and his brother on the sidelines, that's probably what they were talking about. It looked like they were talking about plays.
already cramming for the concussion test
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Bill just saw Wed Lunt dry-heaving on the sideline for 45 minutes and decided not to take unnecessary risks
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We have confirmed it was a concussion and it likely happened on that play. Collin apparently didn't know details of the drive when he came off the field.
welp. turn out the rough ridin' lights. been a great season.
if you watch CK and his brother on the sidelines, that's probably what they were talking about. It looked like they were talking about plays.
already cramming for the concussion test
Is that anything like when the old people memorize the eye test so they can run people over?
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Bill just saw Wed Lunt dry-heaving on the sideline for 45 minutes and decided not to take unnecessary risks
I am curious what Bill would have done if that TD would have tied the game instead of given us a comfortable lead.
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This is going to be an interesting week.
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crap, an option is not a pass play Bill!
eff.
it was supposed to be a shovel "pass" you dimwit
eff you asshat, it was an option play. Keep, shovel, or throw to the wide receiver screen. Why do you think the whole opened up? The DB's were staying home cause TLBL or someone was standing there waiting for the ball.
jeesh for all we know Klein could be in a coma by now and everyone is nit picking what play he potentially may die from
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i think the life lesson here is this: it doesn't matter how much you believe in jesus, when you really need him, he's not going to be there for you. the one set of footprints is yours.
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jeesh for all we know Klein could be in a coma by now and everyone is nit picking what play he potentially may die from
I am not a dimwit! :chainsaw:
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jeesh for all we know Klein could be in a coma by now and everyone is nit picking what play he potentially may die from
I am not a dimwit! :chainsaw:
I think if I called you anything it was a nitpicker
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#life
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Briggs insiders: keep an eye out for Collin this week around the lots.
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I'm just upset, I mean, CK, why? I'm not ready for 2003, only worse cause we're 9-0.
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Question: in 2004, after Meier got knocked out of the OU game, did he sit the week after when we played Nebraska because of his concussion, or was it because his shoulder was about to fall off?
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if we have to play with #life, it's going to be a #loss. he'll turn it over more than we have all year and our defense isn't built to handle that.
there's only one choice, Bill. For beating TCU, for winning the Big 12, for a shot at Heisman, for a shot at a NC. Play CK. As long as CK doesn't turn to cocaine after his college career, he'll be fine.
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#life could handle TCU easily. But ck will play so don't freak out.
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New idea:
goEMAW fund to fly the neurologist in who cleared Braxton Miller to play.
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New idea:
goEMAW fund to fly the neurologist in who cleared Braxton Miller to play.
:driving: but on a plane
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#life
#gonnaneedmorethana3playplaybook
#JFCopenitupbill
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#life could handle TCU easily. But ck will play so don't freak out.
pffft. Gary would crap all over #life. If Bill isn't a complete eff up and plays CK, we would still have a problem with TCU. TCU is a tough out; they are ISU but with a better defense and a better offense (yes, I realize they got beat by ISU - but that was after their DUI QB got busted and they had to throw in a freshman QB. they'd destroy ISU now)
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#life could handle TCU easily. But ck will play so don't freak out.
pffft. Gary would crap all over #life. If Bill isn't a complete eff up and plays CK, we would still have a problem with TCU. TCU is a tough out; they are ISU but with a better defense and a better offense (yes, I realize they got beat by ISU - but that was after their DUI QB got busted and they had to throw in a freshman QB. they'd destroy ISU now)
I don't usually do comparative scores, but come on, just do a quick comparo of our mutual road games against WV.
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#life could handle TCU easily. But ck will play so don't freak out.
pffft. Gary would crap all over #life. If Bill isn't a complete eff up and plays CK, we would still have a problem with TCU. TCU is a tough out; they are ISU but with a better defense and a better offense (yes, I realize they got beat by ISU - but that was after their DUI QB got busted and they had to throw in a freshman QB. they'd destroy ISU now)
Oh look, 'zacker thinks the sky is falling
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#life could handle TCU easily. But ck will play so don't freak out.
pffft. Gary would crap all over #life. If Bill isn't a complete eff up and plays CK, we would still have a problem with TCU. TCU is a tough out; they are ISU but with a better defense and a better offense (yes, I realize they got beat by ISU - but that was after their DUI QB got busted and they had to throw in a freshman QB. they'd destroy ISU now)
I don't usually do comparative scores, but come on, just do a quick comparo of our mutual road games against WV.
oh. So put ND #2 in the BCS then? I mean, they beat OU by more than we did.
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#life could handle TCU easily. But ck will play so don't freak out.
pffft. Gary would crap all over #life. If Bill isn't a complete eff up and plays CK, we would still have a problem with TCU. TCU is a tough out; they are ISU but with a better defense and a better offense (yes, I realize they got beat by ISU - but that was after their DUI QB got busted and they had to throw in a freshman QB. they'd destroy ISU now)
sheeeiiiitttt, Gary blows, most overrated ever & he's a weirdo. Gooch, Limestone, daji, Trim I'd like to recall out conversation at the loft now.
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if we have to play with #life, it's going to be a #loss. he'll turn it over more than we have all year.
Is zero turnovers more than we have had all year?
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#life could handle TCU easily. But ck will play so don't freak out.
pffft. Gary would crap all over #life. If Bill isn't a complete eff up and plays CK, we would still have a problem with TCU. TCU is a tough out; they are ISU but with a better defense and a better offense (yes, I realize they got beat by ISU - but that was after their DUI QB got busted and they had to throw in a freshman QB. they'd destroy ISU now)
Oh look, 'zacker thinks the sky is falling
w/out CK at QB? it already fell.
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Think of how great Klein's praise will be when he comes back from an injury for a 5 TD game at TCU.
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if we have to play with #life, it's going to be a #loss. he'll turn it over more than we have all year.
Is zero turnovers more than we have had all year?
we've turned it over 4 times all year you dumbfuck.
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Going for 2 in the 2nd overtime was unbelievably stupid, he got very lucky. Why the hell would you take that risk when you have to go for two in the third OT. He lost a game last season doing that stupid crap & didn't learn his lesson.
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if we have to play with #life, it's going to be a #loss. he'll turn it over more than we have all year.
Is zero turnovers more than we have had all year?
we've turned it over 4 times all year you dumbfuck.
So then when Sams has zero turnovers, that would be less than four. Thanks for checking on those stats for me.
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Also I enjoy this 'zaker a hell of a lot more now than I did the previous 5 basketball seasons :thumbs:
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Going for 2 in the 2nd overtime was unbelievably stupid, he got very lucky. Why the hell would you take that risk when you have to go for two in the third OT. He lost a game last season doing that stupid crap & didn't learn his lesson.
I don't think it was a bad move. TCU was going to go out on offense first after that period, right? It was on the road and you've got 2 yards to gain to win. i don't think it was a bad call. I would certainly listen to not going for it and just kicking the XP. Both sides have merit.
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Going for 2 in the 2nd overtime was unbelievably stupid, he got very lucky. Why the hell would you take that risk when you have to go for two in the third OT. He lost a game last season doing that stupid crap & didn't learn his lesson.
I wouldn't be surprised if the percentages were in his favor at that particular moment.
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Lucky seems to be an understatement given the "catch" is questionable. It hit the turf undoubtedly, and "control" is up to the observer.
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Going for 2 in the 2nd overtime was unbelievably stupid, he got very lucky. Why the hell would you take that risk when you have to go for two in the third OT. He lost a game last season doing that stupid crap & didn't learn his lesson.
You know that WVU didn't go for two, right? I'm only asking because that's what you thought happened when we were talking yesterday. TCU won it by going for two. Which doesn't mean it wasn't a stupid call. Just one of those things where if it works you look brilliant but if it doesn't you look like a dumbass.
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There is not a single chance he won't play at TCU. None
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There is not a single chance he won't play at TCU. None
agree with this
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Going for 2 in the 2nd overtime was unbelievably stupid, he got very lucky. Why the hell would you take that risk when you have to go for two in the third OT. He lost a game last season doing that stupid crap & didn't learn his lesson.
You know that WVU didn't go for two, right? I'm only asking because that's what you thought happened when we were talking yesterday. TCU won it by going for two. Which doesn't mean it wasn't a stupid call. Just one of those things where if it works you look brilliant but if it doesn't you look like a dumbass.
no, following on a scoreboard app with shitty reception I thought WVU missed a pat. Going home and seeing what happened makes me know that going for two when you don't need to when next time you get the ball you have to makes me know GP is a moron who over coaches.
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There is not a single chance he won't play at TCU. None
:thumbs:
Theres a whole week to recover/scheme for these horned tards. Heisman, rankings, and other related storylines aside, I just don't see Klein not being on the field
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Pretty sure GP read the coal aggie thread and decided it was best if they just end the game as soon as possible, win or lose.
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if it was a major issue he would've been in the locker room. noise/lights make concussions worse. I assume it was mild but he probably could've played and snyder decided to keep him our since we were up 3 scores and there was no reason to risk making it worse with another bad hit.
also, is there anyway we can get an official catzacker thread for him just to go nuts in? tia
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lots of lols in this article, but mostly the goEMAW video.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1395896-collin-klein-injury-bill-snyders-secrecy-wont-influence-outcome-vs-tcu?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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lots of lols in this article, but mostly the goEMAW video.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1395896-collin-klein-injury-bill-snyders-secrecy-wont-influence-outcome-vs-tcu?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
loved the #life video from that article! Did someone here make that? Props.
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#life
Also, its just tcu. I mean why not save life and just roll it out there w Johnson
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There is not a single chance he won't play at TCU. None
agree with this
Both correct statements, I don't even think we'll need an Indian shaman, but watching this thread spin out of control is like watching Apollo 13
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Ck probably was able to recite the 16 goals numerically, but not alphabetically on the spot.
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Ck won't play against tcu. Bill won't risk it .
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Ck won't play against tcu. Bill won't risk it .
This is what I am afraid of. Everyone has to sacrifice, to commit, except the favorite one.
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Ck won't play against tcu. Bill won't risk it .
This is what I am afraid of. Everyone has to sacrifice, to commit, except the favorite one.
The bitch about this is that if #life plays, our computer efficiency is at risk of taking a big hit...which will could work toward knocking us out of 2 in the BCS.
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Ck won't play against tcu. Bill won't risk it .
This is what I am afraid of. Everyone has to sacrifice, to commit, except the favorite one.
With all of the attention that head injuries in football have received I don't think there is any way that we play
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Ck won't play against tcu. Bill won't risk it .
This is what I am afraid of. Everyone has to sacrifice, to commit, except the favorite one.
The bitch about this is that if #life plays, our computer efficiency is at risk of taking a big hit...which will could work toward knocking us out of 2 in the BCS.
If we win, I don't think it matters since BCS computers can't factor in margin of victory.
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Ck won't play against tcu. Bill won't risk it .
This is what I am afraid of. Everyone has to sacrifice, to commit, except the favorite one.
The bitch about this is that if #life plays, our computer efficiency is at risk of taking a big hit...which will could work toward knocking us out of 2 in the BCS.
Do the computers frown upon 1 play 80yd TD drives?
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Don't they calculate efficiency?
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Don't they calculate efficiency?
I don't think they can. If they do, we should be trying to rack up crazy yards.
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I think CK got his brain all spaghettioed on this play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD2II3-WU94&feature=player_detailpage&list=PL38avj5OyLMjZbr9Id8NhCgwhmQouX7te#t=311s
These guys were playing dirty all game - like they were being coached to play dirty. I say we concuss Gundy by grabbing him by the shirt collars and pounding his head against the ground multiple times. :billdance:
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Don't they calculate efficiency?
I don't think they can. If they do, we should be trying to rack up crazy yards.
i think they do use efficiency
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Don't they calculate efficiency?
I don't think they can. If they do, we should be trying to rack up crazy yards.
i think they do use efficiency
It wouldn't make any sense, but I guess something about the BCS not making sense would make a lot of sense.
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Friend is close to his wife. Collin is fine. Will play at TCU. He answered a question wrong after the last score, but corrected himself. Coaching staff was being ultra conservative due to game being well in hand.
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Tweet about Klien!....
From Dan Wetzel: "Source: KState's Collin Klein was taken out Saturday over concerns of a possible concussion. Didn’t know he just scored TD. Story coming"
So pretty much what we thought and steve dave astutely called earlier
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Okie State played one of the dirtiest games i've ever seen. eff them.
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Okie State played one of the dirtiest games i've ever seen. eff them.
Yeah, they're on my crap teams/human beings list.
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Okie State played one of the dirtiest games i've ever seen. eff them.
Yeah, they're on my crap teams/human beings list.
I seriously promoted them to most hated team status forever and ever. i will never spend money in stillwater again and will be super rude to any fans of theirs i encounter. forever. and their uniforms sucked yesterday. we made their qb puke. and pokes sounds dumb.
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how to tell if you're a tuck:
you get slightly angry about people calling CK spaghetti brains. :curse:
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:flush:
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:flush:
whats wrong bucket
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how to tell if you're a tuck:
you get slightly angry about people calling CK spaghetti brains. :curse:
I would be concerned about GPCers thinking we have insidery knowledge of a horrid concussion. Than they would willing to allow CK to sit because it would be "the right thing to do."
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i was talking about myself.
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I thought so but wasn't sure :embarrassed:
(I kinda feel the same way, he hasn't even wreck a moto yet)
Also if Braxton Miller can get cleared, we can find some mouth breather at Mercy to do the job.
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I bet some faith healing has already occurred. God spoke to Colin and told him to get married. Do you think he is going to leave him on the sideline against TCU?
c'mon.
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Also if Braxton Miller can get cleared, we can find some mouth breather at Mercy to do the job.
I know one of those. He's a urologist or something like that. Would that count?
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Also if Braxton Miller can get cleared, we can find some mouth breather at Mercy to do the job.
I know one of those. He's a urologist or something like that. Would that count?
be ambiguous about which head is in working order :dunno:
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:flush:
whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
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:flush:
whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
I didn't see any dirty play either.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--sources--kansas-state-s-collin-klein-pulled-from-game-after-concussion-concern-04221709.html
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There is not a single chance he won't play at TCU. None
agree with this
Agree
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--sources--kansas-state-s-collin-klein-pulled-from-game-after-concussion-concern-04221709.html
Thanks for yesterdays news :thumbsup:
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i dunno, he may not play. or, he may play. time will tell.
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Maybe God is Conflicted...
I mean, we are Playing Texas CHRISTIAN University afterall...could be they have like 10,000 people praying on their side, which might come close to offsetting his favorite sons prayers.
NO matter, he plays, we win, yawn
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I bet some faith healing has already occurred. God spoke to Colin and told him to get married. Do you think he is going to leave him on the sideline against TCU?
c'mon.
What if God tells Colin to stop playing football :ohno:
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whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
I didn't see any dirty play either.
just saw the hit on the ESPNU replay, it absolutely was dirty, a forearm to the head that would have drawn a flag & fine in the NFL
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whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
I didn't see any dirty play either.
just saw the hit on the ESPNU replay, it absolutely was dirty, a forearm to the head that would have drawn a flag & fine in the NFL
tuck outed!
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Joe Schad @schadjoe
Collin Klein's Mom says: "I think he is going to be 100 percent this week. As far as I know..."
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Joe Schad @schadjoe
Collin Klein's Mom says: "I think he is going to be 100 percent this week. As far as I know..."
:highsteppercat:
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whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
I didn't see any dirty play either.
just saw the hit on the ESPNU replay, it absolutely was dirty, a forearm to the head that would have drawn a flag & fine in the NFL
forearms to the helmet don't get a fine btw
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whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
I didn't see any dirty play either.
just saw the hit on the ESPNU replay, it absolutely was dirty, a forearm to the head that would have drawn a flag & fine in the NFL
forearms to the helmet don't get a fine btw
You have no idea what you're talking about. Blows to the helmet have been illegal for longer than I've been alive because of Deacon Jones. You'd be advised to drop this before I farther clown suit you.
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no no MIR, please have at it.
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No, I'm going to give him a chance to quietly back down after he uses google to prove his dumbassedry
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You're right. People have been fined for forearm to the helmet. I guess I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Klein got hurt playing football. Nothing from yesterdays game stuck out to me.
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I bet some faith healing has already occurred. God spoke to Colin and told him to get married. Do you think he is going to leave him on the sideline against TCU?
c'mon.
What if God tells Colin to stop playing football :ohno:
GTFOOMFB!!!! :curse:
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collin's mom needs to STFU
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collin's mom needs to STFU
:ohno:
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You're right. People have been fined for forearm to the helmet. I guess I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Klein got hurt playing football. Nothing from yesterdays game stuck out to me.
a flagable, fineable hit is by definition dirty
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collin's mom needs to STFU
I think it's hilarious. Normally Bills' nondisclosure schtick annoys me, but it just turned joe schnads into a bald connie chung wearing a bright pink clown suit.
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You're right. People have been fined for forearm to the helmet. I guess I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Klein got hurt playing football. Nothing from yesterdays game stuck out to me.
a flagable, fineable hit is by definition dirty
A flagable play is not necessarily dirty, nor is a fineable hit. You're ignorant and a tuck.
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You're right. People have been fined for forearm to the helmet. I guess I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Klein got hurt playing football. Nothing from yesterdays game stuck out to me.
a flagable, fineable hit is by definition dirty
A flagable play is not necessarily dirty, nor is a fineable hit. You're ignorant and a tuck.
An intentional forearm to the head, on the other hand, is dirty. I enjoy watching MIR clownsuit people and this should be a good one! :bwpopcorn:
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You're right. People have been fined for forearm to the helmet. I guess I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Klein got hurt playing football. Nothing from yesterdays game stuck out to me.
a flagable, fineable hit is by definition dirty
A flagable play is not necessarily dirty, nor is a fineable hit. You're ignorant and a tuck.
An intentional forearm to the head, on the other hand, is dirty. I enjoy watching MIR clownsuit people and this should be a good one! :bwpopcorn:
You guys are ridiculous. It was a quarterback dive. You're going to get hit. Arms are flailing. Quit acting like bitches. You see stars once in a while
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You're right. People have been fined for forearm to the helmet. I guess I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Klein got hurt playing football. Nothing from yesterdays game stuck out to me.
a flagable, fineable hit is by definition dirty
A flagable play is not necessarily dirty, nor is a fineable hit. You're ignorant and a tuck.
An intentional forearm to the head, on the other hand, is dirty. I enjoy watching MIR clownsuit people and this should be a good one! :bwpopcorn:
You guys are ridiculous. It was a quarterback dive. You're going to get hit. Arms are flailing. Quit acting like bitches. You see stars once in a while
Cool tough guy
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This thread is about ck's pasketti brains, k?
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You're right. People have been fined for forearm to the helmet. I guess I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Klein got hurt playing football. Nothing from yesterdays game stuck out to me.
a flagable, fineable hit is by definition dirty
A flagable play is not necessarily dirty, nor is a fineable hit. You're ignorant and a tuck.
:bwpopcorn:
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I bet bucket is one of those guys who bitches endlessly about "the pussification of football".
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I already stitched the XL clown suit & squeezed it on him. It's over gents, time to move on.
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All I said was nothing dirty happened in yesterdays game. Klein got concussed on a goal line play. If anything , it's a shocker this is this the first time it'd happened this season. We've been fortunate.
You soccer/tennis playing pieces of shiit.
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that one facemask penalty seemed dirty. the guy who did it has had previous offenses.
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You're right. People have been fined for forearm to the helmet. I guess I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Klein got hurt playing football. Nothing from yesterdays game stuck out to me.
a flagable, fineable hit is by definition dirty
Not to intrude in your pissing match, but a flagable hit is not necessarily dirty or even intentional. For example, you see helmet-to-helmet hits (automatic penalty regardless of intent) all the time where the offensive player ducks into contact at the last fraction of a second. Very common on short yardage plays when you have LBs shooting gaps and the back or QB getting low.
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that one facemask penalty seemed dirty. the guy who did it has had previous offenses.
it was totally dirty. :curse:
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I saw nothing dirty in yesterday's game. ::Drops Mic:: Bucket out!
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You're right. People have been fined for forearm to the helmet. I guess I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Klein got hurt playing football. Nothing from yesterdays game stuck out to me.
a flagable, fineable hit is by definition dirty
Not to intrude in your pissing match, but a flagable hit is not necessarily dirty or even intentional. For example, you see helmet-to-helmet hits (automatic penalty regardless of intent) all the time where the offensive player ducks into contact at the last fraction of a second. Very common on short yardage plays when you have LBs shooting gaps and the back or QB getting low.
that's why I said flagable, fineable
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whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
I didn't see any dirty play either.
just saw the hit on the ESPNU replay, it absolutely was dirty, a forearm to the head that would have drawn a flag & fine in the NFL
forearms to the helmet don't get a fine btw
You have no idea what you're talking about. Blows to the helmet have been illegal for longer than I've been alive because of Deacon Jones. You'd be advised to drop this before I farther clown suit you.
Oh man, any excuse to link to this Deacon Jones clip I will take:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lm2l0pxYw-4
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You're right. People have been fined for forearm to the helmet. I guess I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Klein got hurt playing football. Nothing from yesterdays game stuck out to me.
a flagable, fineable hit is by definition dirty
Not to intrude in your pissing match, but a flagable hit is not necessarily dirty or even intentional. For example, you see helmet-to-helmet hits (automatic penalty regardless of intent) all the time where the offensive player ducks into contact at the last fraction of a second. Very common on short yardage plays when you have LBs shooting gaps and the back or QB getting low.
that's why I said flagable, fineable
I'm with you...just seemed like you guys were splitting hairs. *backs away slowly*
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whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
I didn't see any dirty play either.
just saw the hit on the ESPNU replay, it absolutely was dirty, a forearm to the head that would have drawn a flag & fine in the NFL
is the youtube replay up yet? if so, can someone link this hit. i missed it. tia
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Some dick basically smashed #Life's beautiful throat getting off the pile. leaned on him for awhile. Made me mad.
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Someone posted a YouTube clip earlier but I didn't watch it because I was literally seeing it on tv when I was reading the thread so I don't know if it was the right hit or not. There is also a video of the second half that was posted in the LHC Bill Snyder post game thread. The hit was literally two plays before CK scored the TD. The camera angle on the live shot was much better than the replay.
I wasn't into the OSU played dirty stuff, but for sure the guy head hunted CK on that play.
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Someone posted a YouTube clip earlier but I didn't watch it because I was literally seeing it on tv when I was reading the thread so I don't know if it was the right hit or not. There is also a video of the second half that was posted in the LHC LHC Bill Snyder post game thread. The hit was literally two plays before CK scored the TD. The camera angle on the live shot was much better than the replay.
I wasn't into the OSU played dirty stuff, but for sure the guy head hunted CK on that play.
Feel like an idiot yet?
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whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
I didn't see any dirty play either.
just saw the hit on the ESPNU replay, it absolutely was dirty, a forearm to the head that would have drawn a flag & fine in the NFL
is the youtube replay up yet? if so, can someone link this hit. i missed it. tia
http://youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=JPDRHA0K83Y (http://youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=JPDRHA0K83Y)
7:24 in, in retrospect the replay shows it quite well
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whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
I didn't see any dirty play either.
just saw the hit on the ESPNU replay, it absolutely was dirty, a forearm to the head that would have drawn a flag & fine in the NFL
is the youtube replay up yet? if so, can someone link this hit. i missed it. tia
http://youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=JPDRHA0K83Y (http://youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=JPDRHA0K83Y)
7:24 in, in retrospect the replay shows it quite well
oh. i see. seems normal to me. dunno. carry on though.
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yeah, that wasn't dirty.
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Again I simply said he would have been flagged and fined for that in the NFL as they have an explicit rule against delivering a forearm to the helmet. By NFL rules, its a dirty hit. I'm fully aware that it isn't so clear in college & I never said OSU played dirty. Frankly it should be flagged on all levels, there's no reason to allow intentional head shots of any kind, just because it has been allowed that doesn't make it okay.
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
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Again I simply said he would have been flagged and fined for that in the NFL as they have an explicit rule against delivering a forearm to the helmet. By NFL rules, its a dirty hit. I'm fully aware that it isn't so clear in college & I never said OSU played dirty. Frankly it should be flagged on all levels, there's no reason to allow intentional head shots of any kind, just because it has been allowed that doesn't make it okay.
Changing your argument, bitch
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
Do they know that there were cameras and people there watching the game and none of them seemingly saw a trainer looking at his wrist after he left the game?
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
Do they know that there were cameras and people there watching the game and none of them seemingly saw a trainer looking at his wrist after he left the game?
Better question is do they care?
For the concussion people, did anyone see them doing anything that appeared to be concussion testing on the sidelines. From the student section, it was pretty clear they were doing that for Lunt on the OSU sideline, but never saw Klein doing anything but standing and cheering on the 'Cats.
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
Do they know that there were cameras and people there watching the game and none of them seemingly saw a trainer looking at his wrist after he left the game?
Better question is do they care?
For the concussion people, did anyone see them doing anything that appeared to be concussion testing on the sidelines. From the student section, it was pretty clear they were doing that for Lunt on the OSU sideline, but never saw Klein doing anything but standing and cheering on the 'Cats.
I didn't see anything watching live, but I haven't rewatched yet. Possible that baby Klein sitting and talking next to him was part of it as memory tests are a big part of concussion testing.
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
Do they know that there were cameras and people there watching the game and none of them seemingly saw a trainer looking at his wrist after he left the game?
Better question is do they care?
For the concussion people, did anyone see them doing anything that appeared to be concussion testing on the sidelines. From the student section, it was pretty clear they were doing that for Lunt on the OSU sideline, but never saw Klein doing anything but standing and cheering on the 'Cats.
I didn't see anything watching live, but I haven't rewatched yet. Possible that baby Klein sitting and talking next to him was part of it as memory tests are a big part of concussion testing.
maybe he just wants to chill with his brother and laugh about how stupid osu is.
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
Do they know that there were cameras and people there watching the game and none of them seemingly saw a trainer looking at his wrist after he left the game?
Better question is do they care?
For the concussion people, did anyone see them doing anything that appeared to be concussion testing on the sidelines. From the student section, it was pretty clear they were doing that for Lunt on the OSU sideline, but never saw Klein doing anything but standing and cheering on the 'Cats.
I didn't see anything watching live, but I haven't rewatched yet. Possible that baby Klein sitting and talking next to him was part of it as memory tests are a big part of concussion testing.
maybe he just wants to chill with his brother and laugh about how stupid osu is.
Also possible
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maybe he just wants to chill with his brother and laugh about how stupid osu is.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F000%2F263%2F057%2Fc5b.gif&hash=4cc89ae46d95e892769b2adfdf165c74c4258ce5)
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whats wrong bucket
i didn't have a problem with okie state :dunno:
I didn't see any dirty play either.
just saw the hit on the ESPNU replay, it absolutely was dirty, a forearm to the head that would have drawn a flag & fine in the NFL
is the youtube replay up yet? if so, can someone link this hit. i missed it. tia
http://youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=JPDRHA0K83Y (http://youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=JPDRHA0K83Y)
7:24 in, in retrospect the replay shows it quite well
what play are we talking about here? @724 are we talking about our 1st and 10 play @ OSU's 20ydl?
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
Do they know that there were cameras and people there watching the game and none of them seemingly saw a trainer looking at his wrist after he left the game?
Better question is do they care?
For the concussion people, did anyone see them doing anything that appeared to be concussion testing on the sidelines. From the student section, it was pretty clear they were doing that for Lunt on the OSU sideline, but never saw Klein doing anything but standing and cheering on the 'Cats.
At least at the high school level the initial testing is questioning.
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I bet bucket is one of those guys who bitches endlessly about "the pussification of football".
And is a booger eating UFC fan who wears black tshirts and jean shorts to BWW for fight nights.
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You know who else got spaghetti brained and didn't remember scoring a TD.....Brett Favre (Packers tenure)
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/04/sports/football/04packers.html?_r=0
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
They may put that out there but it's false
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
They may put that out there but it's false
It very well could be, just passing it along to the proper authorities/bbsrs
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:horrorsurprise:Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
They may put that out there but it's false
It very well could be, just passing it along to the proper authorities/bbsrs
appreciate it bro :thumbs:
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Are we talking normal Spaghetti or Honey Boo Boo style Sketti with ketchup and butter? TIA
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
They may put that out there but it's false
I took the precautionary part as a reference to the concussion. I thought the concussion was inherent/implied. I dunno.
The issue is now that he’s been diagnosed with one, they are going to be oversensitive to it. And TCU’s band of drug dealing thugs will have no problem head hunting.
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I was watching the movie Chariots of Fire the other night on TV, hadn't seen it since late 80s or early 90s, a movie about two British track stars in the '24 Olympic Games and the manner in which their beliefs impacted their lives and careers. The FIRE in Chariots of Fire is the passion that each of these two runners, Jew and Evangelical Christian, have for their sport. There is this scene where the great sprinter Eric Liddel gets knocked to the track, falls way behind the opposition and runs like a man consumed, to catch up with and pass the other runners. Like CK, Liddel was from a family of devout faith.
I think one of the best things we as fans can do is to let Collin and his family know that we're praying for them. This family who cares so much about education that they decided to do it themsleves gave both of their sons to KSU and even if you think CK's beliefs are silly or old fashioned, we all get the benefit from who he is and of the standards he sets for himself.
I certainly respect each person's ability to choose or not choose a faith, in this great country of ours. However, in my own personal life, I had been agnostic or atheistic for a very long time until I had a child who was impacted by a serious medical issue. Our wonderful and brilliant doctor encouraged us to find "spiritual support" from familiy, friends and co-workers. I didn't understand or really listen to her the first time she said it. Weeks later, she asked again and gave us case by case example of the wonders that had happened in that office, also saying that there was a "day and night difference" between families that shared a faith and those that didn't. This time, we listened... and we prayed, as did hundreds of people we knew and hundreds of others we didn't know. I got emails from people whose churches and cities I'd never even heard of. I can't explain it, but something amazing happened. Almost immediately, my wife and I became more patient with each other, we stopped feeling angry and tired all the time. We found the strength, the right specialists and the money sort of just showed up to help us cover exhaustive medical bills, to change the direction of our child's life.
Ultimately, our son not only stopped having seizures and other brain problems, he also recovered from the impact of all that brain damage to such an extent that doctors who look at his files today are baffled, totally in disbelief about the progress he made. I would hope for nothing less than that same impact for the Klein's. Pray for CK and let him know about it. He deserves it. Everything else will take care of itself.
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
They may put that out there but it's false
I took the precautionary part as a reference to the concussion. I thought the concussion was inherent/implied. I dunno.
oh, maybe I misread that.
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DNR entire thread, but did anyone check with the vet school for snakes?
Also, as a side note to the snakes, did we maybe burn a bridge with our WVU neighbors earlier by making fun of their use of snakes in faith healing, when now we find our selves in a position where we could really use an expertise such as that.
If we get the snakes, could cDubya or any of the other WVU fans still around help us out here? Could really make us look like a bunch of rubes if you could pull this off.
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Benja's (or benji's?) dad can hook collin up with snake venom if that would help. We dont need west vergineans.
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Benja's (or benji's?) dad can hook collin up with snake venom if that would help. We dont need west vergineans.
Thats only good for preventing alzheimers cancer and joint pain. Althought a quick google search may turn up some testimonials for it curing spaghetti brains.
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Kellis Robinett ?@KellisRobinett
LHC Bill Snyder on Collin Klein: "He seems fine to me." When asked if he will play against TCU: "I would hope so."
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Kellis Robinett ?@KellisRobinett
LHC LHC Bill Snyder on Collin Klein: "He seems fine to me." When asked if he will play against TCU: "I would hope so."
:lol: Bill you pimp!
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Kellis Robinett ?@KellisRobinett
LHC LHC Bill Snyder on Collin Klein: "He seems fine to me." When asked if he will play against TCU: "I would hope so."
HE SEEMS FINE TO ME
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I was watching the movie Chariots of Fire the other night on TV, hadn't seen it since late 80s or early 90s, a movie about two British track stars in the '24 Olympic Games and the manner in which their beliefs impacted their lives and careers. The FIRE in Chariots of Fire is the passion that each of these two runners, Jew and Evangelical Christian, have for their sport. There is this scene where the great sprinter Eric Liddel gets knocked to the track, falls way behind the opposition and runs like a man consumed, to catch up with and pass the other runners. Like CK, Liddel was from a family of devout faith.
I think one of the best things we as fans can do is to let Collin and his family know that we're praying for them. This family who cares so much about education that they decided to do it themsleves gave both of their sons to KSU and even if you think CK's beliefs are silly or old fashioned, we all get the benefit from who he is and of the standards he sets for himself.
I certainly respect each person's ability to choose or not choose a faith, in this great country of ours. However, in my own personal life, I had been agnostic or atheistic for a very long time until I had a child who was impacted by a serious medical issue. Our wonderful and brilliant doctor encouraged us to find "spiritual support" from familiy, friends and co-workers. I didn't understand or really listen to her the first time she said it. Weeks later, she asked again and gave us case by case example of the wonders that had happened in that office, also saying that there was a "day and night difference" between families that shared a faith and those that didn't. This time, we listened... and we prayed, as did hundreds of people we knew and hundreds of others we didn't know. I got emails from people whose churches and cities I'd never even heard of. I can't explain it, but something amazing happened. Almost immediately, my wife and I became more patient with each other, we stopped feeling angry and tired all the time. We found the strength, the right specialists and the money sort of just showed up to help us cover exhaustive medical bills, to change the direction of our child's life.
Ultimately, our son not only stopped having seizures and other brain problems, he also recovered from the impact of all that brain damage to such an extent that doctors who look at his files today are baffled, totally in disbelief about the progress he made. I would hope for nothing less than that same impact for the Klein's. Pray for CK and let him know about it. He deserves it. Everything else will take care of itself.
unreal
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sounds like they are better and more effective at praying for people than me. Maybe I could purchase some prayer credits from them or something.
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before anyone's god starts taking credit for this just be aware that I prayed to ganesha immediately when the concussion occurred and full credit for the healing has already been accepted
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Whatever works.
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I lol'd at the pray for romney facebook page.
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Al Jazeera is reporting that Al Qaeda is accepting responsibility for the concussion. So don't look to Allah for help on this one, FWIW.
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Al Jazeera is reporting that Al Qaeda is accepting responsibility for the concussion. So don't look to Allah for help on this one, FWIW.
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Dennis Dodd asked Bill why he wasn't wearing his helmet and Bill said, "I dunno, there have been other times where he hasn't worn his helmet. Maybe it was uncomfortable?"
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I finally found some time to post.
It used to be thought that concussions were bruises to the brain. While you can still have a bruise to the brain, and which is what we look for with a CT, the cause of concussion is much more cellular. Decreased blood flow to the brain, plus a flow of calcium into the brain cells are the main causes of concussion symptoms. There are about 50 more changes as the injury plus the 2 things above create a cascade of problems we are still trying to completely piece thru. The worst symptoms to have at the time of injury are loss of consciousness, amnesia and vomiting and sometimes lead to the decision to go to hospital or get a CT. These, however, give us very little hints into how long the concussion will last. Most experts agree that dizziness at the time of injury is the most ominous sign that the athlete will be out for a while. How long? In grade school, 80% are out for a month; high school 60%; College 40%; pros 20%. These are gross generalizations, but gives you an idea as to how long the brain takes to lose its plasticity and become a mature brain. Without dizziness, chances are likely that he will recover in 5 days. (more on that later) Imagine if we had put him back in, he got hit again, got dizziness and was out for a month. Taking him out was, without a doubt, the best thing.
10 years ago there were 38+ protocols on return-to-play for concussion. Some were strict, and some not so strict. You could choose whichever one, based on your desire to get a kid back in -or not. Then a neurosurgeon in Toronto named Karen Johnston came up with a great protocol. A "concussion in sport group" was formed and have met about every 4 years in some exotic place in Europe. This included some important people who had their own protocols, so that the decision would be more universally accepted. Since then, everyone uses the same protocol. Day 1 - brain rest, do nothing, no TV, no studying, nothing. Day 2 - if no headaches from day1, begin light, non-sport specific activity, light film study. If at any time there is headaches, you drop back to the day in which you had no headaches. Day3 - if no headaches from day 2, begin light sport-specific activities, more film study. Day 4 - If no headaches from day 3, resume practice with no contact or very light contact. Day 5 - if no headaches from day4, resume full activity. If no headaches, be evaluated by a physician and hopefully cleared. The impact studies, or computer testing, is the real bug-a-boo here. Part of being released is getting back close to where you were when they pretested you before the season. Great! But, 20-25% of the time you can be back to where you were and the test will suggest you are not. Why? Because great outcome studies have not been done on these tests. I love them and use them, but they are not the end all be all, and are usually much worse than a great physical exam. In both cases, you are trying to take physical symptoms and see if they can predict cellular changes/improvement. I have seen kids held out for a long time based not on symptoms, but because of a computer test.
In any case, Klein is going to have reduced practice, and more importantly, reduced film study. Forget Sunday and Monday, he begins to climb back Tuesday (hopefully). Not too bad if you really think about it.
Hope this helps.
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Blowing my mind off with this extremely high concussion IQ
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it is my thought that anyone who was worried that snyder might love klein too much to force him to play with a damaged brain is worrying unnecessarily. snyder loves that klein wins fball games, if klein's brain is acting tc, fp, etc, then it isn't winning fball games, and snyder can't love it anymore. obviously snyder isn't going to want to fall out of love with his favorite player, so klein will have to play.
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I think BJ needs to swaddle Collin in his burly arms for like a few minutes and all will be right.
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I finally found some time to post.
It used to be thought that concussions were bruises to the brain. While you can still have a bruise to the brain, and which is what we look for with a CT, the cause of concussion is much more cellular. Decreased blood flow to the brain, plus a flow of calcium into the brain cells are the main causes of concussion symptoms. There are about 50 more changes as the injury plus the 2 things above create a cascade of problems we are still trying to completely piece thru. The worst symptoms to have at the time of injury are loss of consciousness, amnesia and vomiting and sometimes lead to the decision to go to hospital or get a CT. These, however, give us very little hints into how long the concussion will last. Most experts agree that dizziness at the time of injury is the most ominous sign that the athlete will be out for a while. How long? In grade school, 80% are out for a month; high school 60%; College 40%; pros 20%. These are gross generalizations, but gives you an idea as to how long the brain takes to lose its plasticity and become a mature brain. Without dizziness, chances are likely that he will recover in 5 days. (more on that later) Imagine if we had put him back in, he got hit again, got dizziness and was out for a month. Taking him out was, without a doubt, the best thing.
10 years ago there were 38+ protocols on return-to-play for concussion. Some were strict, and some not so strict. You could choose whichever one, based on your desire to get a kid back in -or not. Then a neurosurgeon in Toronto named Karen Johnston came up with a great protocol. A "concussion in sport group" was formed and have met about every 4 years in some exotic place in Europe. This included some important people who had their own protocols, so that the decision would be more universally accepted. Since then, everyone uses the same protocol. Day 1 - brain rest, do nothing, no TV, no studying, nothing. Day 2 - if no headaches from day1, begin light, non-sport specific activity, light film study. If at any time there is headaches, you drop back to the day in which you had no headaches. Day3 - if no headaches from day 2, begin light sport-specific activities, more film study. Day 4 - If no headaches from day 3, resume practice with no contact or very light contact. Day 5 - if no headaches from day4, resume full activity. If no headaches, be evaluated by a physician and hopefully cleared. The impact studies, or computer testing, is the real bug-a-boo here. Part of being released is getting back close to where you were when they pretested you before the season. Great! But, 20-25% of the time you can be back to where you were and the test will suggest you are not. Why? Because great outcome studies have not been done on these tests. I love them and use them, but they are not the end all be all, and are usually much worse than a great physical exam. In both cases, you are trying to take physical symptoms and see if they can predict cellular changes/improvement. I have seen kids held out for a long time based not on symptoms, but because of a computer test.
In any case, Klein is going to have reduced practice, and more importantly, reduced film study. Forget Sunday and Monday, he begins to climb back Tuesday (hopefully). Not too bad if you really think about it.
Hope this helps.
Mrs. BF is way smhat an says "this is totally like your opinion man." fwiw
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#FattyTakeTheSpaghettiBrains
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Al Jazeera is reporting that Al Qaeda is accepting responsibility for the concussion. So don't look to Allah for help on this one, FWIW.
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Send word to Fatty. :horrorsurprise:
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
Do they know that there were cameras and people there watching the game and none of them seemingly saw a trainer looking at his wrist after he left the game?
Better question is do they care?
For the concussion people, did anyone see them doing anything that appeared to be concussion testing on the sidelines. From the student section, it was pretty clear they were doing that for Lunt on the OSU sideline, but never saw Klein doing anything but standing and cheering on the 'Cats.
"I hope he pukes everywhere" - 8mp from the third row as Lunt's eyes were shifting in and out of focus nearby.
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I finally found some time to post.
It used to be thought that concussions were bruises to the brain. White you can still have a bruise to the brain, and which is what we look for with a CT, the cause of concussion is much more cellular. Decreased blood flow to the brain, plus a flow of calcium into the brain cells are the main causes of concussion symptoms. There are about 50 more changes as the injury plus the 2 things above create a cascade of problems we are still trying to completely piece thru. The worst symptoms to have at the time of injury are loss of consciousness, amnesia and vomiting and sometimes lead to the decision to go to hospital or get a CT. These, however, give us very little hints into how long the concussion will last. Most experts agree that dizziness at the time of injury is the most ominous sign that the athlete will be out for a while. How long? In grade school, 80% are out for a month; high school 60%; College 40%; pros 20%. These are gross generalizations, but gives you an idea as to how long the brain takes to lose its plasticity and become a mature brain. Without dizziness, chances are likely that he will recover in 5 days. (more on that later) Imagine if we had put him back in, he got hit again, got dizziness and was out for a month. Taking him out was, without a doubt, the best thing.
10 years ago there were 38+ protocols on return-to-play for concussion. Some were strict, and some not so strict. You could choose whichever one, based on your desire to get a kid back in -or not. Then a neurosurgeon in Toronto named Karen Johnston came up with a great protocol. A "concussion in sport group" was formed and have met about every 4 years in some exotic place in Europe. This included some important people who had their own protocols, so that the decision would be more universally accepted. Since then, everyone uses the same protocol. Day 1 - brain rest, do nothing, no TV, no studying, nothing. Day 2 - if no headaches from day1, begin light, non-sport specific activity, light film study. If at any time there is headaches, you drop back to the day in which you had no headaches. Day3 - if no headaches from day 2, begin light sport-specific activities, more film study. Day 4 - If no headaches from day 3, resume practice with no contact or very light contact. Day 5 - if no headaches from day4, resume full activity. If no headaches, be evaluated by a physician and hopefully cleared. The impact studies, or computer testing, is the real bug-a-boo here. Part of being released is getting back close to where you were when they pretested you before the season. Great! But, 20-25% of the time you can be back to where you were and the test will suggest you are not. Why? Because great outcome studies have not been done on these tests. I love them and use them, but they are not the end all be all, and are usually much worse than a great physical exam. In both cases, you are trying to take physical symptoms and see if they can predict cellular changes/improvement. I have seen kids held out for a long time based not on symptoms, but because of a computer test.
In any case, Klein is going to have reduced practice, and more importantly, reduced film study. Forget Sunday and Monday, he begins to climb back Tuesday (hopefully). Not too bad if you really think about it.
Hope this helps.
Mrs. BF is way smhat an says "this is totally like your opinion man." fwiw
Mrs. bf is way off base
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Text I received:
From [redacted] : [redacted] talked to one of her fb player friends this afternoon. Said CK just kind of tweaked the wrist. No injury. Thought he had had a long enough day and we were up enough so they just decided to keep him out as a precaution.
At least that's the story they are putting out there.
Do they know that there were cameras and people there watching the game and none of them seemingly saw a trainer looking at his wrist after he left the game?
Better question is do they care?
For the concussion people, did anyone see them doing anything that appeared to be concussion testing on the sidelines. From the student section, it was pretty clear they were doing that for Lunt on the OSU sideline, but never saw Klein doing anything but standing and cheering on the 'Cats.
"I hope he pukes everywhere" - 8mp from the third row as Lunt's eyes were shifting in and out of focus nearby.
I don't know what you're talking about
:peek:
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You guys U2 just came on the radio and made me think of fatty. It's going to be ok I feel it. #fattytakethewheel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u_mmbfbpME&feature=player_detailpage
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A friend of mine lives next door to Braden Wilson's mother. She told my friend that Klein was taken out of the game because Okie St was trying to hurt CK. Said on his TD run someone kicked him and there were a few plays before with CK taking some cheap shots. She said he will play v.s. TCU. Take this as you will. I really don't understand if this was the case why we didn't put him back in when we only had a 2 possession lead.
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So yeah, welcome to being my new least favorite team of ever okie state! :shakesfist:
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I'd always heard that Gundy and Sean Peyton were close friends.
:curse: :curse:
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anyone re watch and look for this kind of stuff?
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anyone re watch and look for this kind of stuff?
I saw what looked like a knee to the head on the Klein TD on a replay. Couldn't tell if it was intentional or not, but it was pretty late.
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they were doing that crap the entire game. I can tell you for a fact that wasn't why CK was taken out though. when sams was in one guy was doing his best trim impersonation by trying to choke him out in the pile.
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when sams was in one guy was doing his best trim impersonation by trying to choke him out in the pile.
yeah that really got me riled
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Meant to rewatch post game exchange between Bill and Mike. Seem to remember Bill turning and walking with Gundy for a bit..?
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I need to get my eyes checked. Usually everyone else in the NEZ would be complaining about dirty play if they saw it. Maybe they were but I was filtering it out with the other stupid stuff they were yelling.
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when sams was in one guy was doing his best trim impersonation by trying to choke him out in the pile.
yeah that really got me riled
that really made me mad too. next year we should wear razor blades in our gloves and pads and really give them what they have coming.
lol, sorry about your slit throat bud. hey ref, you gonna let this puss bleed out or what? :lol:
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they were doing that crap the entire game. I can tell you for a fact that wasn't why CK was taken out though. when sams was in one guy was doing his best trim impersonation by trying to choke him out in the pile.
"for a fact" ???
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CK missed his first leadership class of the year today. No word on whether he finally realized leadership classes are BS and you don't have to go or if he's slowly slipping into a Terri Schiavo-esque coma somewhere on the third floor of Mercy.
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they were doing that crap the entire game. I can tell you for a fact that wasn't why CK was taken out though. when sams was in one guy was doing his best trim impersonation by trying to choke him out in the pile.
"for a fact" ???
yes
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FWIW, early on in the game (like late 1st Q/early 2nd), I told the wife that I was afraid CK was going to get injured in this game by the way Okie St. was playing. It kept on worrying me that we kept doing so many keepers. And sure enough. Just glad it wasn't worse :pray: .
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Mark Janssen apparently thinks klein will play. (Snyder must not let him in on the scheme)
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There was a tweet yesterday from the Frogs of War dummies quoting some paper saying that Snyder knows no reason why Klein wouldn't play.
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We need to send CK to Okie State's doctors. They cleared Lunt and he's been practicing this week.
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We need to send CK to Okie State's doctors. They cleared Lunt and he's been practicing this week.
:horrorsurprise: murderers
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We need to send CK to Okie State's doctors. They cleared Lunt and he's been practicing this week.
Just don't let them fly him back :surprised:
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CK missed his first leadership class of the year today. No word on whether he finally realized leadership classes are BS and you don't have to go or if he's slowly slipping into a Terri Schiavo-esque coma somewhere on the third floor of Mercy.
The fact that our school has a major for leadership studies is pretty ridic.
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CK missed his first leadership class of the year today. No word on whether he finally realized leadership classes are BS and you don't have to go or if he's slowly slipping into a Terri Schiavo-esque coma somewhere on the third floor of Mercy.
The fact that our school has a major for leadership studies is pretty ridic.
The Ron Prince School of Leadership Studies.
I'm glad he left a legacy :party:
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CK missed his first leadership class of the year today. No word on whether he finally realized leadership classes are BS and you don't have to go or if he's slowly slipping into a Terri Schiavo-esque coma somewhere on the third floor of Mercy.
The fact that our school has a major for leadership studies is pretty ridic.
It's a minor right? Or have they transitioned it to a major?
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We need to send CK to Okie State's doctors. They cleared Lunt and he's been practicing this week.
Just don't let them fly him back :surprised:
:sdeek:
:runaway:
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CK missed his first leadership class of the year today. No word on whether he finally realized leadership classes are BS and you don't have to go or if he's slowly slipping into a Terri Schiavo-esque coma somewhere on the third floor of Mercy.
The fact that our school has a major for leadership studies is pretty ridic.
It's a minor right? Or have they transitioned it to a major?
It's a minor, but it has the nicest building on campus and is still complete bullshit.
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I was the recipient of a Leadership Studies scholarship and $750 towards tuition is no joke. The class I took for this was, however.
I predict CK will run for 2 tds, pass for 1 and sits out 4th qtr because of 4 td lead. Gary will pull out a couple of fleaflickers and reverses early on but the game will be out of reach midway through the 3rd quarter.
Lock it up and take it to vegas, boys. Spaghetti brains 56, Horny Toads 23
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I was the recipient of a Leadership Studies scholarship and $750 towards tuition is no joke. The class I took for this was, however.
Me too, but coincidentally, the class I had to take to get the scholly was roughly the same price as the scholly. So yeah, free joke class.
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CK missed his first leadership class of the year today. No word on whether he finally realized leadership classes are BS and you don't have to go or if he's slowly slipping into a Terri Schiavo-esque coma somewhere on the third floor of Mercy.
The fact that our school has a major for leadership studies is pretty ridic.
It's a minor right? Or have they transitioned it to a major?
Anything more than a class is very WTF?
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Anyway, here he is saying "I feel good now" with 4:55 to go in the 3Q. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPDRHA0K83Y&feature=BFa&list=PL38avj5OyLMjZbr9Id8NhCgwhmQouX7te#t=22m55s)
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Collin Klein ?@ckleincat7
I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any situation.Phil 4:12
welp. :goodbyecruelworld:
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Collin Klein ?@ckleincat7
I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any situation.Phil 4:12
welp. :goodbyecruelworld:
Sams is starting? :excited:
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Collin Klein ?@ckleincat7
I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any situation.Phil 4:12
welp. :goodbyecruelworld:
scheme
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he should start posting daily bible verses for us to obsess over :pray:
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Collin Klein ?@ckleincat7
I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any situation.Phil 4:12
welp. :goodbyecruelworld:
Dammit you guys... :ohno:
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Just bet one of the farms I won against KU on tcu
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I hate you.
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he should start posting daily bible verses for us to obsess over :pray:
Bible verses are the new rap lyrics.
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guys were gonna kick their ass
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anyone re watch and look for this kind of stuff?
I saw what looked like a knee to the head on the Klein TD on a replay. Couldn't tell if it was intentional or not, but it was pretty late.
saw exactly the same thing but since no one brought it up, thought I had just drank too much
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just made a big pot of sketti and breadsticks for brunch. it's mighty good.
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http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/43326/the-mystery-of-collin-klein
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http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/43326/the-mystery-of-collin-klein
Media Still butt hurt I see. :bill: :lol:
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Heard some more deetz on CK after getting scrambled eggs brains vs OSU...
So it started when he's on the sideline and asked someone how we got to 38 after he scored the touchdown. Then they asked him who this coach was and CK was all "that's Michael rough ridin' Smith!" And then he was with his brother just cussing up a storm the rest of the game. Eff this and eff that. Which of course is unusual for him.
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Heard some more deetz on CK after getting scrambled eggs brains vs OSU...
So it started when he's on the sideline and asked someone how we got to 38 after he scored the touchdown. Then they asked him who this coach was and CK was all "that's Michael rough ridin' Smith!" And then he was with his brother just cussing up a storm the rest of the game. Eff this and eff that. Which of course is unusual for him.
oh man I really hope this is true.
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Know what else is true? The day after the CTR this year (aka yesterday) I flew back on a plane to New Orleans with Michael Smith's mom. :love: