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Title: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 25, 2012, 07:51:42 PM
Which helps us more in the BCS rankings, a blowout of TTU or a close win?  The computers don't factor in game scores anymore so it really comes down to the coaches poll. A blowout of a good TTU team might help us gain some ground on Oregon but it could also knock TTU out of the polls or close to it. A close win would likely not do much for us in terms of gaining on Oregon, but it would help TTU stay higher in the polls and help our SOS in the computers. SO  which is better for us in the end. Do we need to gain as much ground on Oregon as possible in the polls, which they will likely make up for once they beat USC/OSU or does TTU keeping it close and winning out help us more?  TIA
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: AbeFroman on October 25, 2012, 07:59:30 PM
 :lol:
Oregon has to gain on us.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 25, 2012, 08:08:03 PM
Yeah right now. But when they start playing "the top of the Pac 10+2" (as if there was such a thing in that loser conference) they'll gain back what they lost to us in the polls.  IMO I think we should just blowout all of the puds left on our schedule and hope OSU and USC drop a few more or New Balance U chokes somewhere.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: mocat on October 25, 2012, 08:19:04 PM
Weird pregunta. I would assume blowing somebody out is better than not all the time but I am not a poll expert by any means.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: one time gella on October 25, 2012, 08:25:01 PM
A blow out always makes me giddy...
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: Tobias on October 25, 2012, 08:28:13 PM
i hate overthinking these things.  just kick the crap out of everyone is what i say
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: jmlynch1 on October 25, 2012, 08:32:47 PM
Weird pregunta. I would assume blowing somebody out is better than not all the time but I am not a poll expert by any means.
Of course it is.

EDIT: and I am a poll expert. :gocho:
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: daBish7 on October 25, 2012, 08:35:48 PM
Blow out and tt goes 10-2
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 25, 2012, 08:38:08 PM
You ever eaten two Chipotle burritos and then not pooped for 4 days, but then you finally did?  That's the kind of blowout we want.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: KITNfury on October 25, 2012, 08:41:27 PM
We need to separate further from Oregon and to do so, we need human votes. Blowout as many teams as we can. Hell, UO blows out complete crap teams and everyone is convinced they are second best in the country.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: Shacks on October 25, 2012, 09:05:12 PM
Oregon will lose sometime in November when they start playing teams that won't be four TD underdogs.  Don't worry about the Ducks.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: ednksu on October 25, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
blowout everyone we can blowout
coaches poll = grad assistant only looking at boxscore. All they will see is a number next to the name and the final score
other people polls only care about final score.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: Houcat on October 25, 2012, 09:19:32 PM
You ever eaten two Chipotle burritos and then not pooped for 4 days, but then you finally did?  That's the kind of blowout we want.

This sort of insight is why I keep coming back to this board.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 25, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
whatever we do we had better win sexy for the pollsters, we need to bring back the percell gaskins jerseys for the sexiest players
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on October 25, 2012, 09:34:20 PM
We need Klein to have a big game in a blow out. Klein having a great game will bring more attention to us then a blow out. The media hates us.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2012, 09:35:36 PM
We need Klein to have a big game in a blow out. Klein having a great game will bring more attention to us then a blow out. The media hates us.

the media doesn't hate us... good grief.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: Pete on October 25, 2012, 09:38:01 PM
The computer don't factor in score differential, but they DO factor in efficiency.  If we are very efficient on both defense and offense, we'll blow out Tech.....soooooo....
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 25, 2012, 09:40:39 PM
whatever we do we had better win sexy for the pollsters, we need to bring back the percell gaskins jerseys for the sexiest players

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: ednksu on October 25, 2012, 09:54:09 PM
We need Klein to have a big game in a blow out. Klein having a great game will bring more attention to us then a blow out. The media hates us.

the media doesn't hate us... good grief.   :facepalm:
ummmmmmm
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22986.0

Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 25, 2012, 10:15:44 PM
Oregon will not run the table dummies. 
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: dmartin on October 26, 2012, 11:09:43 AM
As long as the blowout doesn't crush TT's souls and they go winless from here, then I say blow them out.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: Brock Landers on October 26, 2012, 11:15:06 AM
We need Klein to have a big game in a blow out. Klein having a great game will bring more attention to us then a blow out. The media hates us.

the media doesn't hate us... good grief.   :facepalm:
ummmmmmm
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=22986.0


Don't confuse butthurt townie writers with real media.  Nobody has ever heard of this chump who is still trying to recover from getting 52-13'd.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: Panjandrum on October 26, 2012, 11:17:57 AM
Which helps us more in the BCS rankings, a blowout of TTU or a close win?  The computers don't factor in game scores anymore so it really comes down to the coaches poll. A blowout of a good TTU team might help us gain some ground on Oregon but it could also knock TTU out of the polls or close to it. A close win would likely not do much for us in terms of gaining on Oregon, but it would help TTU stay higher in the polls and help our SOS in the computers. SO  which is better for us in the end. Do we need to gain as much ground on Oregon as possible in the polls, which they will likely make up for once they beat USC/OSU or does TTU keeping it close and winning out help us more?  TIA

Margin of victory doesn't matter to the computers.  It matters to the voters.  The voters make up 2/3 of the equation.

If you can blow a team out now, blow them out.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2012, 11:20:06 AM
Which helps us more in the BCS rankings, a blowout of TTU or a close win?  The computers don't factor in game scores anymore so it really comes down to the coaches poll. A blowout of a good TTU team might help us gain some ground on Oregon but it could also knock TTU out of the polls or close to it. A close win would likely not do much for us in terms of gaining on Oregon, but it would help TTU stay higher in the polls and help our SOS in the computers. SO  which is better for us in the end. Do we need to gain as much ground on Oregon as possible in the polls, which they will likely make up for once they beat USC/OSU or does TTU keeping it close and winning out help us more?  TIA

Margin of victory doesn't matter to the computers.  It matters to the voters.  The voters make up 2/3 of the equation.

If you can blow a team out now, blow them out.

Do the computers take into account if your opponent is ranked top 25 or just their ranking?  For example are we rewarded substantially more by beating a #25 team compared to a #26 team?
Title: Re: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: mocat on October 26, 2012, 11:27:19 AM
Which helps us more in the BCS rankings, a blowout of TTU or a close win?  The computers don't factor in game scores anymore so it really comes down to the coaches poll. A blowout of a good TTU team might help us gain some ground on Oregon but it could also knock TTU out of the polls or close to it. A close win would likely not do much for us in terms of gaining on Oregon, but it would help TTU stay higher in the polls and help our SOS in the computers. SO  which is better for us in the end. Do we need to gain as much ground on Oregon as possible in the polls, which they will likely make up for once they beat USC/OSU or does TTU keeping it close and winning out help us more?  TIA

Margin of victory doesn't matter to the computers.  It matters to the voters.  The voters make up 2/3 of the equation.

If you can blow a team out now, blow them out.

Do the computers take into account if your opponent is ranked top 25 or just their ranking?  For example are we rewarded substantially more by beating a #25 team compared to a #26 team?

No the computers do not look at "ranking" they look at rating based on you guessed it the computers
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: steve dave on October 26, 2012, 11:28:02 AM
if we go undefeated we will play in the NC
Title: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: kso_FAN on October 26, 2012, 11:29:33 AM
Destroy them. There was some merit to the guy's article about style points. The math will take care of itself, we need to keep the human voters impressed with us and winning by large margins is the best way. JMHO.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: deputy dawg on October 26, 2012, 11:36:55 AM
As long as the blowout doesn't crush TT's souls and they go winless from here, then I say blow them out.

 :nono:  Waaaay too thoughtful.  Tech has used us like corn oil and trashbags every chance they've gotten since 1996.  Blow them out.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: detch23 on October 26, 2012, 11:46:14 AM
Destroy them. There was some merit to the guy's article about style points. The math will take care of itself, we need to keep the human voters impressed with us and winning by large margins is the best way. JMHO.

This. In our position we want to blow everybody out. Keep people talking about the numbers we are putting up. The computers have us higher than voters do so we need to keep them interested. If we could control it we would want OU, WVU, and after tomorrow Tech to win by large margins this is the ideal situation for the computers to keep us higher.
Title: Re: Which Helps Us More?
Post by: detch23 on October 26, 2012, 11:53:32 AM
If/When OU thumps Notre Dame, we will no longer have the talk about Oregon jumping us. It's in our hands boys!