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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: steve dave on October 23, 2012, 07:36:42 AM
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Interior Defensive Line. I know we've discussed this before but I was very concerned about them coming in. They have been nails.
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Completely agree.
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Yeah, I'd just say the defense in general. I mean, they were really bad at times last year.
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Enjoy it while you can, folks. Next year might be a little sketchy. But lets not think about that right now.
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The Coaching staff? Cox, Hayes, Dickey. They seem to be doing pretty good.
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Milo, hands down.
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every aspect of our defense cept linebackers. our secondary scared the crap out of me after mo state but they've played really well since then.
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Milo, hands down.
I really like him
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I feel like Hubes got faster this season.
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The Coaching staff? Cox, Hayes, Dickey. They seem to be doing pretty good.
Dickey was no surprise. We've seen the development of the Oline since he arrived.
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Interior Defensive Line. I know we've discussed this before but I was very concerned about them coming in. They have been nails.
Was it Blackmon and Bryant that you were hearing good things about in August? Can't remember which two...that seems to be spot on.
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The Coaching staff? Cox, Hayes, Dickey. They seem to be doing pretty good.
Dickey was no surprise. We've seen the development of the Oline since he arrived.
Yeah, I almost didn't list him.
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on offense - it's hard to pick just one. i would have to say the pleasant surprise is that seemingly EVERYONE improved from last year.
on defense - Milo. this guy is is a walk-on from butler juco that was on no one's radar last year. guy is a stud tackler.
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It's got to be the offensive line and the defensive line. It's also nice to finally have a safety in Zimmerman who doesn't get worse every year he plays.
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Secondary. Really impressed by 1y and Milo's development. I was expecting them to be torched deep numerous times vs WVU.
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Oline
Dline
hubes.
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Secondary. Really impressed by 1y and Milo's development. I was expecting them to be torched deep numerous times vs WVU.
1y is getting so good that we expect him to intercept to ball once or twice a game. It's getting so routine that we're don't get excited anymore for what he has done for the team.
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Randal Evans
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:lick:
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That gravy filled leg in the background is very distracting.
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we've got a lot of pleasant surprises guys :D
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The only thing that is disappointing is Harper doesn't have more TDs
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That gravy filled leg in the background is very distracting.
Yin/Yang theory.... the world seeking balance.
:peek:
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The complete lack of gimmick plays (except for "The Play") is a pleasant surprise. I don't even recall if we ran the Wildcat with a RB taking the snap all year. No rb's or wr's throwing the ball. It is awesome just to see this group line up and play without the gimmicks!
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The complete lack of gimmick plays (except for "The Play") is a pleasant surprise. I don't even recall if we ran the Wildcat with a RB taking the snap all year. No rb's or wr's throwing the ball. It is awesome just to see this group line up and play without the gimmicks!
it would be pretty stupid because our QB is one of our best runners and any RB we put in there would be a worse passer than our QB
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The complete lack of gimmick plays (except for "The Play") is a pleasant surprise. I don't even recall if we ran the Wildcat with a RB taking the snap all year. No rb's or wr's throwing the ball. It is awesome just to see this group line up and play without the gimmicks!
it would be pretty stupid because our QB is one of our best runners and any RB we put in there would be a worse passer than our QB
But I'd really like to see CK catch a TD.
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The complete lack of gimmick plays (except for "The Play") is a pleasant surprise. I don't even recall if we ran the Wildcat with a RB taking the snap all year. No rb's or wr's throwing the ball. It is awesome just to see this group line up and play without the gimmicks!
it would be pretty stupid because our QB is one of our best runners and any RB we put in there would be a worse passer than our QB
Yes, which makes it a pleasant surprise. Pease in the Wildcat last year would not be any different than Pease in the Wildcat this year. I didn't like it last year and I am pleasantly surprised I don't have to watch it this year.
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The complete lack of gimmick plays (except for "The Play") is a pleasant surprise. I don't even recall if we ran the Wildcat with a RB taking the snap all year. No rb's or wr's throwing the ball. It is awesome just to see this group line up and play without the gimmicks!
We haven't run the Wildcat one time.
You can see Snyder's confidence in what we do; our main running game is power/lead with a few options mixed in. Nice mix of play action pass and drop back pass. Very few gadgets, even fairly conventional ones like reverses, let alone toss passes or anything like that. Plus the amount that he let's Klein check plays at the line of scrimmage is more than I've seen from any K-State QB, maybe Beasley was the other one that checked as often as Klein does.
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I don't recall Beasley checking anywhere near this much.
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we haven't had a big WTF play on offense or defense.
except for the option WTF
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we haven't had a big WTF play on offense or defense.
except for the option WTF
behind the back end around fake jump pass pitch?
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I feel like Hubes got faster this season.
Also stronger, seems like he has ran thru more tackles this half season than he did all of last year.
I really thought he have would have a hard time improving from what he was last year - a good back that seemed hit a ceiling against high quality defenses. Then he goes out and does what he did against OU :love:
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we haven't had a big WTF play on offense or defense.
except for the option WTF
behind the back end around fake jump pass pitch?
"except for the option WTF"
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The complete lack of gimmick plays (except for "The Play") is a pleasant surprise. I don't even recall if we ran the Wildcat with a RB taking the snap all year. No rb's or wr's throwing the ball. It is awesome just to see this group line up and play without the gimmicks!
it would be pretty stupid because our QB is one of our best runners and any RB we put in there would be a worse passer than our QB
But I'd really like to see CK catch a TD.
sams lines up behind ck in the pistol. ck shifts to tight end. the ball is quickly snapped to sams who rolls out right and hits ck in the corner of the end zone to pull ahead of bama with less than a minute left in the 4th quarter.
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I feel like Hubes got faster this season.
Also stronger, seems like he has ran thru more tackles this half season than he did all of last year.
I really thought he have would have a hard time improving from what he was last year - a good back that seemed hit a ceiling against high quality defenses. Then he goes out and does what he did against OU :love:
and totally redeems himself!
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Guys, it would be way easier to list the things/players that aren't pleasant surprises.
Harper, Malone, and Arthur are about exactly as awesome as I thought they would be.
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Our offensive line is the biggest pleasant surprise.
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Our offensive line is the biggest pleasant surprise.
This is incorrect. While the Oline wasn't really expected to be a strength, no one really thought that Dickey would field a front 5 full of respects. However, MANY people were :ohno: about the Dline.
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Milo, doesn't get burned over the top like Hartman and lays wood.
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Travis Britz, Angelo Pease, Ryan Doerr, 1Y, Milo,Whitehair, CLucas, TThompson
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Our offensive line is the biggest pleasant surprise.
This is incorrect. While the Oline wasn't really expected to be a strength, no one really thought that Dickey would field a front 5 full of respects. However, MANY people were :ohno: about the Dline.
Denied. The oline is much bigger than the dline. Have you seen Lucas? Meshak is great, but he and the other dlinemen are not nearly as big, surprise or otherwise, as the olinemen.
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I'd say it's getting beams back on the board.
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1) Defensive line, especially interior.
2) Offensive tackles.
3) Milo
4) Tuggle's transition.
5) Hubert's improvement.
Before the season I thought the biggest thing that would take this team from good to great was the play of both lines.
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Health of everyone.
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Sams Laser/Rocket Arm on his completion :excited:
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Last week it was Braden Wilson not having two holding penalties.
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Sams Laser/Rocket Arm on his completion :excited:
should not be a suprise! Also, his near pick endzone bomb was an incredible laser as well. laserbomb.
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Sams Laser/Rocket Arm on his completion :excited:
should not be a suprise! Also, his near pick endzone bomb was an incredible laser as well. laserbomb.
intercontinental ballistic laser
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ICBL could be a good candidate for Sams' nickname in 2013, though I would make the L stand for #Life instead of laser.
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we haven't had a big WTF play on offense or defense.
We also haven't had an impact player injured. And this scares the crap out of me.
Unless Snyder really is a wizard, it's unimaginable that a team could go the entire season without an injury or a WTF play on offense or defense.
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I'm still hard from this weekend so you guys can all knock on it for trying to muck up everything that is going well for the wild wild cats.
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Tremaine Thompson's continued improvement. I thought he would eventually hit a ceiling, but he continues to impress.
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I think the subtraction of Cosh was an addition to the improvement of our defense.
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Minus the one tavon austin return, our kick off coverage has been great.
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we haven't had a big WTF play on offense or defense.
We also haven't had an impact player injured. And this scares the crap out of me.
Unless Snyder really is a wizard, it's unimaginable that a team could go the entire season without an injury or a WTF play on offense or defense.
#fattytakethewheel
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Randall Evans anyone? His "stats" aren't great, but man, the guy seems to be in the middle of a lot of our big plays on defense. Plus he's been a very sure tackler
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we haven't had a big WTF play on offense or defense.
We also haven't had an impact player injured. And this scares the crap out of me.
Unless Snyder really is a wizard, it's unimaginable that a team could go the entire season without an injury or a WTF play on offense or defense.
Our WTF play happened against Miami. "The Play"
Also, Snyder used his magic to heal Arthur when he was briefly hurt during the North Texas game.
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1. only one wtf play...the option of liberty
2. the silkiness of 160 proof peach moonshine in morgantown :lick:
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1. only one wtf play...the option of liberty
good grief, it really tells you something about this season when i'd completely forgotten about that play.
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I suppose KU's two straight special teams miracles were kind of WTF plays.
but, yeah, other than those and the option of liberty, we've been sound.
Also, this thought just popped into my head. We should rename this board Gapetto's Workshop. mull it over.
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I suppose KU's two straight special teams miracles were kind of WTF plays.
but, yeah, other than those and the option of liberty, we've been sound.
Also, this thought just popped into my head. We should rename this board Gapetto's Workshop. mull it over.
The fatty quote is just too perfect.
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We should rename this board
absolutely not
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2. the silkiness of 160 proof peach moonshine in morgantown :lick:
yes
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agree with those who state the defense as the biggest pleasant surprise...followed closely by the offensive line play.
I realize we have a bunch of seniors starting but I don't think the defense falls off a cliff. The interior DL will have guys like Britz, Akinola, Hood, and Reed returning in the spring. We also appear to be in the lead for Marquel Combs as well as in serious contention for a few more juco DTs. I think we'll also get a solid DE or two from the juco ranks. I am not concerned about the DL next year.
My biggest concern heading into next year is the hole left at mike LB. We can't replace Arthur Brown. We can minimize some of the loss by excellent play along the DL and at safety (which we could get) but you simply can't replace Arthur.
I'm not sold the DL or corner play will go into an abyss. While their experience will be tough to replace it's not like we have amazing talent at those positions. A kid like Riyahd Jones is an upgrade athletically at either corner spot. I wouldn't rule out the possibility, if we keep winning, of getting a few high school kids who can contribute immediately on the defensive end. I know that isn't normally the case but when you see a Travis Britz competing well as a true freshman it gives you an indication of the possibility. BTW, a true freshman leads the Big 12 in tackles for loss and sacks. Devonte Fields of TCU.
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Doesn't have to be a permanent thing. Fatty quote is great, no question.
Just think that after an exceptionally schemey performance by the Cats, it would be lovely to visit Gapetto's Workshop for some quality bbsing.
like i said, sleep on it. let's talk tomorrow.
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You aren't going to Inception us into changing it. So I will not sleep until we win Saturday.
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1. all of the winning