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Title: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: slackcat on October 12, 2012, 07:03:04 AM
Evidentally getting close:
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Snyder:
"Uhh... It's probably not going to be very long.  You know I did not come back because of football. There were some other issues.  Uhh...It was because of people that I came back.  It was just kind of to try to help right the ship if, indeed, we could.  And, uhh, to kind of calm the waters and I think we're getting close to that...so...
You know.... in the 3 years that I was away from coaching.  You know I stayed close to the program.  But my time was invested in a lot of other very significant things that I enjoyed doing and were meaningful to me and, certainly, time with my family as well.  So, we'll get back to that before too very long."

  :goodbyecruelworld:


Better warm up the search committee.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Institutional Control on October 12, 2012, 07:08:45 AM
Bobby Petrino is at home waiting for Bill to say the word.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: "storm"nut on October 12, 2012, 07:09:32 AM
Evidentally getting close:
Quote
Snyder:
"Uhh... It's probably not going to be very long.  You know I did not come back because of football. There were some other issues.  Uhh...It was because of people that I came back.  It was just kind of to try to help right the ship if, indeed, we could.  And, uhh, to kind of calm the waters and I think we're getting close to that...so...
You know.... in the 3 years that I was away from coaching.  You know I stayed close to the program.  But my time was invested in a lot of other very significant things that I enjoyed doing and were meaningful to me and, certainly, time with my family as well.  So, we'll get back to that before too very long."

  :goodbyecruelworld:


Better warm up the search committee.

I think Currie already has his guy. Just have to wait till he is fired first.
Title: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Pete on October 12, 2012, 07:12:43 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: slackcat on October 12, 2012, 07:14:37 AM
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I think Currie already has his guy. Just have to wait till he is fired first.

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: ChiComCat on October 12, 2012, 07:15:48 AM
Currie knows who he is going to get, but you're full of crap if you think he isn't going to milk the search for 3 days at a Quality Inn in Dallas
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: slackcat on October 12, 2012, 07:16:31 AM
Bobby Petrino is at home waiting for Bill to say the word.

"We have harley's"   :dance:
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 12, 2012, 07:53:48 AM
highly doubt he leaves with sams and the returning offensive players. could be his best offense ever next year.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 12, 2012, 07:59:22 AM
Conference title and he's gone. 
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: ChiComCat on October 12, 2012, 08:02:41 AM
highly doubt he leaves with sams and the returning offensive players. could be his best offense ever next year.

Last time he left he gave a speech about not leaving the cupboard bare.  I think he would like to leave some talent for the next guy.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: "storm"nut on October 12, 2012, 08:05:55 AM
highly doubt he leaves with sams and the returning offensive players. could be his best offense ever next year.

What better time to leave. Sean will have all the can fruit to look good for 2 years or so. Unless Currie's guy is on the unemployment line, then Bill might stay till death.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2012, 08:12:08 AM
God Bill is scheming your faces off.  :bill:
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 12, 2012, 08:12:26 AM
Currie knows who he is going to get, but you're full of crap if you think he isn't going to milk the search for 3 days at a Quality Inn in Dallas

I'm sure he has a friend he'd like to throw some money at (by the hour) as a "search consultant" as well.  Can't rack up the billable hours unless you burn 3 days watching Law & Order reruns & raiding the minifridge in Dallas hotel.   
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: catzacker on October 12, 2012, 08:13:24 AM
If bill steps down after this year, currie should hire Dimel, imo.  he won't, unfortunately.  I’m guessing Ron Zook, so we can get all the losers fired from Illinois.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: catzacker on October 12, 2012, 08:16:07 AM
Also, how is it that a coach who won’t confirm or deny if a player has a hangnail under the premise that it could provide a strategic advantage to his opponent(s), keeps saying he’s not going to coach that long?  I mean, Bill…buddy….lie and say you’re going to do this for a while because you’re enjoying it.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: puniraptor on October 12, 2012, 08:52:48 AM
Also, how is it that a coach who won’t confirm or deny if a player has a hangnail under the premise that it could provide a strategic advantage to his opponent(s), keeps saying he’s not going to coach that long?  I mean, Bill…buddy….lie and say you’re going to do this for a while because you’re enjoying it.

The lie was that Bill enjoys anything in life other than coaching football. He couldn't bear to hang out with his family for 3 years. He isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 08:58:29 AM
If bill steps down after this year, currie should hire Dimel, imo.  he won't, unfortunately.  I’m guessing Ron Zook, so we can get all the losers fired from Illinois.

It's going to be either Chizik or Dooley.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 12, 2012, 08:58:45 AM
Currie knows who he is going to get, but you're full of crap if you think he isn't going to milk the search for 3 days at a Quality Inn in Dallas

I'm sure he has a friend he'd like to throw some money at (by the hour) as a "search consultant" as well.  Can't rack up the billable hours unless you burn 3 days watching Law & Order reruns & raiding the minifridge in Dallas hotel.   

A football coaching search has to be worth AT LEAST 100k to his buddy the search consultant, right?
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 09:03:40 AM
If we start a grassroots campaign for Dimel now, would that make any difference? I think the campaign for Gottlieb was started too late because as soon as Currie caught wind of it, he announced oscar was the coach and killed it before it really started. He can't hire a coach when Bill hasn't resigned yet, though.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: catzacker on October 12, 2012, 09:07:17 AM
Also, how is it that a coach who won’t confirm or deny if a player has a hangnail under the premise that it could provide a strategic advantage to his opponent(s), keeps saying he’s not going to coach that long?  I mean, Bill…buddy….lie and say you’re going to do this for a while because you’re enjoying it.

The lie was that Bill enjoys anything in life other than coaching football. He couldn't bear to hang out with his family for 3 years. He isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Then it’s the worst (strategic) lie in the history of lies.  “hey, potential recruits, I’m going to leave before you’re a junior….psyche!”
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 12, 2012, 09:08:04 AM
hey guys we have a farmageddon tomorrow try to stay on topic
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Super PurpleCat on October 12, 2012, 09:19:11 AM
I hope we win and I hope Bill lives to be 120.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 09:21:38 AM
there've been some high level rumblings/grumblings that this could be it for bill even before the season started.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 09:22:04 AM
If bill steps down after this year, currie should hire Dimel, imo.  he won't, unfortunately.  I’m guessing Ron Zook, so we can get all the losers fired from Illinois.

agreed
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: ChiComCat on October 12, 2012, 09:45:42 AM
If bill steps down after this year, currie should hire Dimel, imo.  he won't, unfortunately.  I’m guessing Ron Zook, so we can get all the losers fired from Illinois.

It's going to be either Chizik or Dooley.

Oh god, I can totally see that :facepalm:
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: "storm"nut on October 12, 2012, 09:49:32 AM
Nominate this thread as the Official Men's Football Coaching search master thread.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Mr Bread on October 12, 2012, 09:49:37 AM
If bill steps down after this year, currie should hire Dimel, imo.  he won't, unfortunately.  I’m guessing Ron Zook, so we can get all the losers fired from Illinois.

agreed

If he hangs on one, maybe two more seasons, you could have Zook or Tim Beckman. :pray:
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: wabash909 on October 12, 2012, 09:50:46 AM
I'm still holding out hope that Patterson will leave TCU for us.

Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: puniraptor on October 12, 2012, 09:52:27 AM
I'm still holding out hope that Patterson will leave TCU for us.

yuck not anymore.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: "storm"nut on October 12, 2012, 09:54:50 AM
If bill steps down after this year, currie should hire Dimel, imo.  he won't, unfortunately.  I’m guessing Ron Zook, so we can get all the losers fired from Illinois.

agreed

If he hangs on one, maybe two more seasons, you could have Zook or Tim Beckman. :pray:

Sneaky money one Jerry Kill, after losing to Iowa they could free fall and the UM admin could make a snap decision to let him go.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 09:55:59 AM
doesn't that freak jerry kill have a foaming at the mouth seizure and almost die every 30 minutes?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmegasportsnews.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F12%2FJerry-Kill-Minnesota-football-coach-courtesy-of-Minnesota-athletics.jpg&hash=dc4fc2dc83e205807df3ad6aa751a9f071dd205f)

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: wabash909 on October 12, 2012, 09:56:45 AM
I'm still holding out hope that Patterson will leave TCU for us.

yuck not anymore.

Lol.


Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: "storm"nut on October 12, 2012, 09:57:28 AM
doesn't that freak jerry kill have a foaming at the mouth seizure and almost die every 30 minutes?

Currie - " I have not heard one bad thing about Kill's foaming at the mouth seizures"
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 09:58:39 AM
Dimel is the best option. He's got experience. He's basically running the show right now anyway. He's not super old. Plus he's a friend of goEMAW.

plus he doesn't look like a complete freakshow
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FCoach%2FPHOTO%2FDANA-DIMEL.JPG&hash=cd0b51777f393c421e15a8eadc76c7686e3a3822)
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 12, 2012, 10:02:58 AM
Dimel is the best option. He's got experience. He's basically running the show right now anyway. He's not super old. Plus he's a friend of goEMAW.

plus he doesn't look like a complete freakshow
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FCoach%2FPHOTO%2FDANA-DIMEL.JPG&hash=cd0b51777f393c421e15a8eadc76c7686e3a3822)

silver fox  :love:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 12, 2012, 10:03:15 AM
Dimel is the best option. He's got experience. He's basically running the show right now anyway. He's not super old. Plus he's a friend of goEMAW.

plus he doesn't look like a complete freakshow
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FCoach%2FPHOTO%2FDANA-DIMEL.JPG&hash=cd0b51777f393c421e15a8eadc76c7686e3a3822)

Looks pretty elite to me....
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on October 12, 2012, 10:05:14 AM
Dimel's a good dude. Do want.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 10:06:37 AM
I'd have to think Bill is smart enough to realize that he can probably get enough support behind Dimel to get him the job. 

I know that he wants Sean, but that's never going to happen.  His best chance at keeping Sean in a good, cushy job is to get Dimel in place and make sure that the band stays together.

I'm in full support of Dimel at this point.  I wasn't before he came back, but I'm good with it now.  I've seen enough to be much more comfortable with that option than trusting Currie on this. 

I just hope that Snyder is making the right calls to the right people to make sure Currie makes the right decision.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: "storm"nut on October 12, 2012, 10:08:09 AM
Dimel is the best option. He's got experience. He's basically running the show right now anyway. He's not old balls. Plus he's a friend of goEMAW.

plus he doesn't look like a complete freakshow
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2FIMAGES%2FCoach%2FPHOTO%2FDANA-DIMEL.JPG&hash=cd0b51777f393c421e15a8eadc76c7686e3a3822)

in 2002 Rivials ranked Houston's recruiting class 59th, ku 60th. He pulled in 1 4 star. He is not a terrible recruiter as a head coach.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 10:09:59 AM
I'd have to think Bill is smart enough to realize that he can probably get enough support behind Dimel to get him the job. 

I know that he wants Sean, but that's never going to happen.  His best chance at keeping Sean in a good, cushy job is to get Dimel in place and make sure that the band stays together.

I'm in full support of Dimel at this point.  I wasn't before he came back, but I'm good with it now.  I've seen enough to be much more comfortable with that option than trusting Currie on this. 

I just hope that Snyder is making the right calls to the right people to make sure Currie makes the right decision.

I don't trust Bill to know/do this.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 10:10:53 AM
I'd have to think Bill is smart enough to realize that he can probably get enough support behind Dimel to get him the job. 

I know that he wants Sean, but that's never going to happen.  His best chance at keeping Sean in a good, cushy job is to get Dimel in place and make sure that the band stays together.

I'm in full support of Dimel at this point.  I wasn't before he came back, but I'm good with it now.  I've seen enough to be much more comfortable with that option than trusting Currie on this. 

I just hope that Snyder is making the right calls to the right people to make sure Currie makes the right decision.

I don't trust Bill to know/do this.

Probably not, which is why we're most likely screwed, because Currie is going to oscar this one up.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 10:12:04 AM
I think Bill pushing Sean is secondary to Currie wanting to put his name on a football coaching hire. Hiring the current OC to take over isn't going to do that.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 10:13:32 AM
I think Bill pushing Sean is secondary to Currie wanting to put his name on a football coaching hire. Hiring the current OC to take over isn't going to do that.

Wouldn't Currie look like a genius if Dimel takes over and is successful, though?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 10:13:45 AM
I think Bill pushing Sean is secondary to Currie wanting to put his name on a football coaching hire. Hiring the current OC to take over isn't going to do that.

100% agreement, which is why Bill should be pushing big donors to back Dana.

Currie can't move on to a bigger gig if the donors quit giving money and refuse to work with him.  On top of the fact that it appears most coaches don't want to have anything to do with him.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on October 12, 2012, 10:15:22 AM
I thought the Dooley call was prophetic.  How could Currie not hire that guy once Tennessee cans him?  He will look great in City Slickers garb.  He'll be Currie's live-action Ken doll. 
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 10:16:25 AM
I think Bill pushing Sean is secondary to Currie wanting to put his name on a football coaching hire. Hiring the current OC to take over isn't going to do that.

Wouldn't Currie look like a genius if Dimel takes over and is successful, though?

No, he'd look like he made the obvious choice. Obvious isn't resume worthy.

Achievements: Promoted current OC to HC when HC retired

If he was looking out for KState's best interests it would be clear. But, he's not.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: "storm"nut on October 12, 2012, 10:17:44 AM
While the Head Men's Football coach is the Big Man On Campus, I wonder if Currie thinks he put his stamp on the program with his hire of oscar. And while Currie may be looking to pad his resume and hire a splash, he is also aware that our Alum will cook his goose if Bill is not fully behind this hire (not some hand shake and nod this time from Bill)
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 10:19:54 AM
While the Head Men's Football coach is the Big Man On Campus, I wonder if Currie thinks he put his stamp on the program with his hire of oscar. And while Currie may be looking to pad his resume and hire a splash, he is also aware that our Alum will cook his goose if Bill is not fully behind this hire (not some hand shake and nod this time from Bill)

But I don't think Currie cares.  I think he believes that if he hires the right name, he can get out of here in less than 12 months, so donor relations, schmoner relations.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 10:20:09 AM
While the Head Men's Football coach is the Big Man On Campus, I wonder if Currie thinks he put his stamp on the program with his hire of oscar. And while Currie may be looking to pad his resume and hire a splash, he is also aware that our Alum will cook his goose if Bill is not fully behind this hire (not some hand shake and nod this time from Bill)

Bill won't be fully behind anyone but Sean. I've heard that most of our big donors don't want Bill to have much say in the hire and I know for a fact that Currie doesn't give a crap what Bill wants.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 10:21:20 AM
I think Bill pushing Sean is secondary to Currie wanting to put his name on a football coaching hire. Hiring the current OC to take over isn't going to do that.

Wouldn't Currie look like a genius if Dimel takes over and is successful, though?

No, he'd look like he made the obvious choice. Obvious isn't resume worthy.

Achievements: Promoted current OC to HC when HC retired

If he was looking out for KState's best interests it would be clear. But, he's not.

Well, when he ends up announcing Dooley as the next HC, he will be the laughingstock of all college AD's. At least he would appear semi-competent if he promoted from within to keep the continuity of a top 5 football team.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 10:22:55 AM
I think Bill pushing Sean is secondary to Currie wanting to put his name on a football coaching hire. Hiring the current OC to take over isn't going to do that.

Wouldn't Currie look like a genius if Dimel takes over and is successful, though?

No, he'd look like he made the obvious choice. Obvious isn't resume worthy.

Achievements: Promoted current OC to HC when HC retired

If he was looking out for KState's best interests it would be clear. But, he's not.

Well, when he ends up announcing Dooley as the next HC, he will be the laughingstock of all college AD's. At least he would appear semi-competent if he promoted from within to keep the continuity of a top 5 football team.

no crap, but he doesn't believe that. we have a track record here.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 12, 2012, 10:23:18 AM
I am nearly verklempt just typing this, but if given a choice between some loser that gets picked from a Dallas hotel room while Currie sits in his underwear and sends texts messages from his Blackberry.   

I'll take Sean Snyder (gouging eyes out)

Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Harry Doyle on October 12, 2012, 10:24:23 AM
Welp, thanks for ruining my Friday guys. I was ready to get excited for tomorrow's game, but now I'm worried LHCBS is going to call it quits in January.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2012, 10:25:48 AM
I want Bill to leave when the cupboard is bare, which it will be soon if he doesn't shut his yapper. If Bill tells idiots we should be really good the year after he leaves, the next coach is mumped.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 10:26:41 AM
I want Bill to leave when the cupboard is bare, which it will be soon if he doesn't shut his yapper. If Bill tells idiots we should be really good the year after he leaves, the next coach is mumped.

Well, the cupboard is pretty rough ridin' bare on defense next year
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: EllToPay on October 12, 2012, 10:28:07 AM
I think Bill pushing Sean is secondary to Currie wanting to put his name on a football coaching hire. Hiring the current OC to take over isn't going to do that.

Wouldn't Currie look like a genius if Dimel takes over and is successful, though?

No, he'd look like he made the obvious choice. Obvious isn't resume worthy.

Achievements: Promoted current OC to HC when HC retired

If he was looking out for KState's best interests it would be clear. But, he's not.

Well, when he ends up announcing Dooley as the next HC, he will be the laughingstock of all college AD's. At least he would appear semi-competent if he promoted from within to keep the continuity of a top 5 football team.

Purple pants? :dunno:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 10:28:51 AM
I am nearly verklempt just typing this, but if given a choice between some loser that gets picked from a Dallas hotel room while Currie sits in his underwear and sends texts messages from his Blackberry.   

I'll take Sean Snyder (gouging eyes out)

I would, too. Jim Tressel is the absolute best option for this team. Currie will not hire a coach with a show cause, even if it's very minor like Tressel's case. Petrino would also be nice, and he might be available if Bill retires after this season. We are going to be playing in a late bowl game, though, so it's entirely possible that he's off the table before Bill even announces his retirement. Without an obvious choice out there, I will take Sean over whatever loser Currie is going to find. The loser we know is better than the loser than no AD or UP can find anything bad to say about.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 12, 2012, 10:30:14 AM
I think Bill pushing Sean is secondary to Currie wanting to put his name on a football coaching hire. Hiring the current OC to take over isn't going to do that.

Wouldn't Currie look like a genius if Dimel takes over and is successful, though?

No, he'd look like he made the obvious choice. Obvious isn't resume worthy.

Achievements: Promoted current OC to HC when HC retired

If he was looking out for KState's best interests it would be clear. But, he's not.

Well, when he ends up announcing Dooley as the next HC, he will be the laughingstock of all college AD's. At least he would appear semi-competent if he promoted from within to keep the continuity of a top 5 football team.
The worst part of this hire would be slap LHCBS in the face and pay Dooley more then what Bill is getting.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 12, 2012, 10:32:01 AM
we're going to hire whoever gene keady tells us to. find out what football coach keady is friends with and you will have your answer.
Title: Re: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2012, 10:32:27 AM
I want Bill to leave when the cupboard is bare, which it will be soon if he doesn't shut his yapper. If Bill tells idiots we should be really good the year after he leaves, the next coach is mumped.

Well, the cupboard is pretty rough ridin' bare on defense next year

I just hope Bill lets everyone know they will struggle , like he does with every single one of his best teams. He won't, because he's kind of a prick, but it would be nice.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: "storm"nut on October 12, 2012, 10:33:38 AM
I am nearly verklempt just typing this, but if given a choice between some loser that gets picked from a Dallas hotel room while Currie sits in his underwear and sends texts messages from his Blackberry.   

I'll take Sean Snyder (gouging eyes out)

I would, too. Jim Tressel is the absolute best option for this team. Currie will not hire a coach with a show cause, even if it's very minor like Tressel's case. Petrino would also be nice, and he might be available if Bill retires after this season. We are going to be playing in a late bowl game, though, so it's entirely possible that he's off the table before Bill even announces his retirement. Without an obvious choice out there, I will take Sean over whatever loser Currie is going to find. The loser we know is better than the loser than no AD or UP can find anything bad to say about.

Tressel might be a better option than you will think. He might be able to get the show cause eliminated by showing our super Compliance Department.

Title: Re: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 10:34:57 AM
I want Bill to leave when the cupboard is bare, which it will be soon if he doesn't shut his yapper. If Bill tells idiots we should be really good the year after he leaves, the next coach is mumped.

Well, the cupboard is pretty rough ridin' bare on defense next year

I just hope Bill lets everyone know they will struggle , like he does with every single one of his best teams. He won't, because he's kind of a prick, but it would be nice.

yeah
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 12, 2012, 10:36:07 AM
We're also going to need a new defensive coordinator very soon.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2012, 10:36:38 AM
Do you guys think we could lure Weis away from KU? I want those rings.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 10:36:49 AM
I am nearly verklempt just typing this, but if given a choice between some loser that gets picked from a Dallas hotel room while Currie sits in his underwear and sends texts messages from his Blackberry.   

I'll take Sean Snyder (gouging eyes out)

I would, too. Jim Tressel is the absolute best option for this team. Currie will not hire a coach with a show cause, even if it's very minor like Tressel's case. Petrino would also be nice, and he might be available if Bill retires after this season. We are going to be playing in a late bowl game, though, so it's entirely possible that he's off the table before Bill even announces his retirement. Without an obvious choice out there, I will take Sean over whatever loser Currie is going to find. The loser we know is better than the loser than no AD or UP can find anything bad to say about.

Tressel might be a better option than you will think. He might be able to get the show cause eliminated by showing our super Compliance Department.

Even if it's not eliminated, he could serve his penalty and be back on the sidelines for conference play. Then he would have to sit out the bowl game his first season. BFD.

The problem is not the show cause. The problem is Currie being worried about how he would be perceived if he hired a coach with the show cause. He cares more about his own career than K-State.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: "storm"nut on October 12, 2012, 10:37:42 AM
I am nearly verklempt just typing this, but if given a choice between some loser that gets picked from a Dallas hotel room while Currie sits in his underwear and sends texts messages from his Blackberry.   

I'll take Sean Snyder (gouging eyes out)

I would, too. Jim Tressel is the absolute best option for this team. Currie will not hire a coach with a show cause, even if it's very minor like Tressel's case. Petrino would also be nice, and he might be available if Bill retires after this season. We are going to be playing in a late bowl game, though, so it's entirely possible that he's off the table before Bill even announces his retirement. Without an obvious choice out there, I will take Sean over whatever loser Currie is going to find. The loser we know is better than the loser than no AD or UP can find anything bad to say about.

Tressel might be a better option than you will think. He might be able to get the show cause eliminated by showing our super Compliance Department.

Even if it's not eliminated, he could serve his penalty and be back on the sidelines for conference play. Then he would have to sit out the bowl game his first season. BFD.

Team Tressel?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on October 12, 2012, 10:41:55 AM
I am nearly verklempt just typing this, but if given a choice between some loser that gets picked from a Dallas hotel room while Currie sits in his underwear and sends texts messages from his Blackberry.   

I'll take Sean Snyder (gouging eyes out)

I would, too. Jim Tressel is the absolute best option for this team. Currie will not hire a coach with a show cause, even if it's very minor like Tressel's case. Petrino would also be nice, and he might be available if Bill retires after this season. We are going to be playing in a late bowl game, though, so it's entirely possible that he's off the table before Bill even announces his retirement. Without an obvious choice out there, I will take Sean over whatever loser Currie is going to find. The loser we know is better than the loser than no AD or UP can find anything bad to say about.

Tressel might be a better option than you will think. He might be able to get the show cause eliminated by showing our super Compliance Department.

Tressel is pretty overrated.  He was head-and-shoulders above anyone else in the Big Ten talent-wise during his tenure.  He didn't out-coach anyone or have to coach players up.  He just always had the best players across the board.  When he played teams with similar talent (outside the Big Ten), he got smoked more often than he won.  What he was doing at Ohio State I don't think would translate to KSU at all. 
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 12, 2012, 10:42:48 AM
I am nearly verklempt just typing this, but if given a choice between some loser that gets picked from a Dallas hotel room while Currie sits in his underwear and sends texts messages from his Blackberry.   

I'll take Sean Snyder (gouging eyes out)

I would, too. Jim Tressel is the absolute best option for this team. Currie will not hire a coach with a show cause, even if it's very minor like Tressel's case. Petrino would also be nice, and he might be available if Bill retires after this season. We are going to be playing in a late bowl game, though, so it's entirely possible that he's off the table before Bill even announces his retirement. Without an obvious choice out there, I will take Sean over whatever loser Currie is going to find. The loser we know is better than the loser than no AD or UP can find anything bad to say about.

Tressel might be a better option than you will think. He might be able to get the show cause eliminated by showing our super Compliance Department.

Tressel is pretty overrated.  He was head-and-shoulders above anyone else in the Big Ten talent-wise during his tenure.  He didn't out-coach anyone or have to coach players up.  He just always had the best players across the board.  When he played teams with similar talent (outside the Big Ten), he got smoked more often than he won.  What he was doing at Ohio State I don't think would translate to KSU at all.

i think i agree.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 10:43:17 AM
I also agree
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 10:46:24 AM
We're also going to need a new defensive coordinator very soon.

Half of that staff walks out with Bill, man.  Miller, Lattimore, Hayes, etc.

This little run is like that scene in Tombstone where Earp and those five guys go out in a blaze of glory.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 10:47:37 AM
all of those guys stay if we hire Dimel (unless he fires them for being dead weight)
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 10:49:28 AM
I am nearly verklempt just typing this, but if given a choice between some loser that gets picked from a Dallas hotel room while Currie sits in his underwear and sends texts messages from his Blackberry.   

I'll take Sean Snyder (gouging eyes out)

I would, too. Jim Tressel is the absolute best option for this team. Currie will not hire a coach with a show cause, even if it's very minor like Tressel's case. Petrino would also be nice, and he might be available if Bill retires after this season. We are going to be playing in a late bowl game, though, so it's entirely possible that he's off the table before Bill even announces his retirement. Without an obvious choice out there, I will take Sean over whatever loser Currie is going to find. The loser we know is better than the loser than no AD or UP can find anything bad to say about.

Tressel might be a better option than you will think. He might be able to get the show cause eliminated by showing our super Compliance Department.

Tressel is pretty overrated.  He was head-and-shoulders above anyone else in the Big Ten talent-wise during his tenure.  He didn't out-coach anyone or have to coach players up.  He just always had the best players across the board.  When he played teams with similar talent (outside the Big Ten), he got smoked more often than he won.  What he was doing at Ohio State I don't think would translate to KSU at all.

Tressel deserves full credit for getting that talent, imo. I don't think he would be as successful at K-State as he was at Ohio State, but we would have more talent on the roster than we have ever had.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 10:53:52 AM
On a serious note, I could totally see Currie going after Gus Malzahn.

Flashy name, Sun Belt HC that would jump at the job, etc.

I'd put him on the short list.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 10:55:37 AM
On a serious note, I could totally see Currie going after Gus Malzahn.

Flashy name, Sun Belt HC that would jump at the job, etc.

I'd put him on the short list.

We couldn't get him
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 10:56:32 AM
On a serious note, I could totally see Currie going after Gus Malzahn.

Flashy name, Sun Belt HC that would jump at the job, etc.

I'd put him on the short list.

We couldn't get him

In two or three years?  No.

If it were this year?  Maybe. It's not like he's setting the Sun Belt on fire.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 10:56:59 AM
On a serious note, I could totally see Currie going after Gus Malzahn.

Flashy name, Sun Belt HC that would jump at the job, etc.

I'd put him on the short list.

He wouldn't be my first choice, but I'm sure he's much better than the guy Currie ends up hiring.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Brock Landers on October 12, 2012, 10:57:34 AM
I am nearly verklempt just typing this, but if given a choice between some loser that gets picked from a Dallas hotel room while Currie sits in his underwear and sends texts messages from his Blackberry.   

I'll take Sean Snyder (gouging eyes out)

I would, too. Jim Tressel is the absolute best option for this team. Currie will not hire a coach with a show cause, even if it's very minor like Tressel's case. Petrino would also be nice, and he might be available if Bill retires after this season. We are going to be playing in a late bowl game, though, so it's entirely possible that he's off the table before Bill even announces his retirement. Without an obvious choice out there, I will take Sean over whatever loser Currie is going to find. The loser we know is better than the loser than no AD or UP can find anything bad to say about.

Tressel might be a better option than you will think. He might be able to get the show cause eliminated by showing our super Compliance Department.


oscar Pearl only had a 3 year show cause and our Mega Super Fun Time Compliance Department couldn't get him in here.  Isn't Tressel's 5 years?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 10:59:11 AM
I am nearly verklempt just typing this, but if given a choice between some loser that gets picked from a Dallas hotel room while Currie sits in his underwear and sends texts messages from his Blackberry.   

I'll take Sean Snyder (gouging eyes out)

I would, too. Jim Tressel is the absolute best option for this team. Currie will not hire a coach with a show cause, even if it's very minor like Tressel's case. Petrino would also be nice, and he might be available if Bill retires after this season. We are going to be playing in a late bowl game, though, so it's entirely possible that he's off the table before Bill even announces his retirement. Without an obvious choice out there, I will take Sean over whatever loser Currie is going to find. The loser we know is better than the loser than no AD or UP can find anything bad to say about.

Tressel might be a better option than you will think. He might be able to get the show cause eliminated by showing our super Compliance Department.


oscar Pearl only had a 3 year show cause and our Mega Super Fun Time Compliance Department couldn't get him in here.  Isn't Tressel's 5 years?

Pearl wasn't allowed to recruit with his. Tressel's lasts 5 years before a team can hire him without penalty, but the penalty would only last the first season, and it's a very weak penalty at that.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: catzacker on October 12, 2012, 11:00:43 AM
I don’t want Tressel, I don’t want Petrino.  I want offensive consistency.  Changing defense style/scheme (outside of moving to a 3-4) is easy compared to switching offenses – especially considering the specific skill set that we currently have on the offensive side of the ball.  Patterson would be the only logical choice other than Dimel to maintain some semblance of offensive consistency, but I highly doubt that would happen.  Charlie Strong might want to make the switch, although I’m not sure of UL's offense.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 12, 2012, 11:01:03 AM
Welp, thanks for ruining my Friday guys. I was ready to get excited for tomorrow's game, but now I'm worried LHCBS is going to call it quits in January.

Bill isn't leaving at the end of this season.  Ignore the rubes who think otherwise, they are just trying to appear ITK.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on October 12, 2012, 11:01:57 AM
Tressel is pretty overrated.  He was head-and-shoulders above anyone else in the Big Ten talent-wise during his tenure.  He didn't out-coach anyone or have to coach players up.  He just always had the best players across the board.  When he played teams with similar talent (outside the Big Ten), he got smoked more often than he won.  What he was doing at Ohio State I don't think would translate to KSU at all.

Tressel deserves full credit for getting that talent, imo. I don't think he would be as successful at K-State as he was at Ohio State, but we would have more talent on the roster than we have ever had.

To an extent, but the overwhelming majority of that talent came from in-state with a few other guys cherry-picked from surrounding states like Pennsylvania, Illinois and Indiana.  Ohio State practically does that on it's own.  Cooper did.  Meyer certainly is and then some. 
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: ltrain on October 12, 2012, 11:02:53 AM
Stop talking about Tressel, he's not an option
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 11:04:02 AM
Tressel is pretty overrated.  He was head-and-shoulders above anyone else in the Big Ten talent-wise during his tenure.  He didn't out-coach anyone or have to coach players up.  He just always had the best players across the board.  When he played teams with similar talent (outside the Big Ten), he got smoked more often than he won.  What he was doing at Ohio State I don't think would translate to KSU at all.

Tressel deserves full credit for getting that talent, imo. I don't think he would be as successful at K-State as he was at Ohio State, but we would have more talent on the roster than we have ever had.

To an extent, but the overwhelming majority of that talent came from in-state with a few other guys cherry-picked from surrounding states like Pennsylvania, Illinois and Indiana.  Ohio State practically does that on it's own.  Cooper did.  Meyer certainly is and then some.

Meyer is one of the best two coaches in college football. Michigan also recruits itself, but they are dogshit.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 11:04:42 AM
I don’t want Tressel, I don’t want Petrino.  I want offensive consistency.  Changing defense style/scheme (outside of moving to a 3-4) is easy compared to switching offenses – especially considering the specific skill set that we currently have on the offensive side of the ball.  Patterson would be the only logical choice other than Dimel to maintain some semblance of offensive consistency, but I highly doubt that would happen.  Charlie Strong might want to make the switch, although I’m not sure of UL's offense.

We also have a great offensive roster returning next season (if this is the last for Bill). Would not be smart to eff with that. Our defense is going to be a clean slate. eff away.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 12, 2012, 11:05:32 AM
What about Paul Rhodes?  He would crawl to Manhattan just to interview for the job and lord knows we have more money left in Frank's swear jar than ISU has in their entire bank account.  Sure, he is below .500, hasn't ever pissed a drop in this conference, seems to whine about the refs alot and can't recruit but he seems to be very passionate.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
What about Paul Rhodes?  He would crawl to Manhattan just to interview for the job and lord knows we have more money left in Frank's swear jar than ISU has in their entire bank account.  Sure, he is below .500, hasn't ever pissed a drop in this conference, seems to whine about the refs alot and can't recruit but he seems to be very passionate.

Just a thought.

He is certainly making a name for himself in the college football world. I think he will end up being like Boyle was in the basketball search. We will all be bitching about media types saying they think we are going to hire Rhodes, and then Currie will go ahead and hire somebody else who is equally shitty/maybe even shittier.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 12, 2012, 11:14:26 AM
What about Paul Rhodes?  He would crawl to Manhattan just to interview for the job and lord knows we have more money left in Frank's swear jar than ISU has in their entire bank account.  Sure, he is below .500, hasn't ever pissed a drop in this conference, seems to whine about the refs alot and can't recruit but he seems to be very passionate.

Just a thought.

He is certainly making a name for himself in the college football world. I think he will end up being like Boyle was in the basketball search. We will all be bitching about media types saying they think we are going to hire Rhodes, and then Currie will go ahead and hire somebody else who is equally shitty/maybe even shittier.

Who is shittier than Rhodes who would even get interviewed?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on October 12, 2012, 11:14:33 AM
Tressel is pretty overrated.  He was head-and-shoulders above anyone else in the Big Ten talent-wise during his tenure.  He didn't out-coach anyone or have to coach players up.  He just always had the best players across the board.  When he played teams with similar talent (outside the Big Ten), he got smoked more often than he won.  What he was doing at Ohio State I don't think would translate to KSU at all.

Tressel deserves full credit for getting that talent, imo. I don't think he would be as successful at K-State as he was at Ohio State, but we would have more talent on the roster than we have ever had.

To an extent, but the overwhelming majority of that talent came from in-state with a few other guys cherry-picked from surrounding states like Pennsylvania, Illinois and Indiana.  Ohio State practically does that on it's own.  Cooper did.  Meyer certainly is and then some.

Meyer is one of the best two coaches in college football. Michigan also recruits itself, but they are dogshit.

My point is that the guy before and the guy after Tressel both recruited as well or better than he did at Ohio State.  Michigan recruiting started slipping in Carr's last few seasons and RR was a train wreck.  Then they followed that up with a silent fart hire in Hoke.  They're mumped in the head if they still think they're on Ohio State's level.  More importantly, Michigan doesn't have the in-state talent pool that Ohio State does.  It's not even remotely close.  Ohio State could exlusively recruit Ohio kids and still be the most talented team in the Big Ten every year.  Not a good comparo. 
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 11:15:47 AM
What about Paul Rhodes?  He would crawl to Manhattan just to interview for the job and lord knows we have more money left in Frank's swear jar than ISU has in their entire bank account.  Sure, he is below .500, hasn't ever pissed a drop in this conference, seems to whine about the refs alot and can't recruit but he seems to be very passionate.

Just a thought.

He is certainly making a name for himself in the college football world. I think he will end up being like Boyle was in the basketball search. We will all be bitching about media types saying they think we are going to hire Rhodes, and then Currie will go ahead and hire somebody else who is equally shitty/maybe even shittier.

Who is shittier than Rhodes who would even get interviewed?

That is exactly what we all said about Tad Boyle.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Skipper44 on October 12, 2012, 11:21:25 AM
Tressel is pretty overrated.  He was head-and-shoulders above anyone else in the Big Ten talent-wise during his tenure.  He didn't out-coach anyone or have to coach players up.  He just always had the best players across the board.  When he played teams with similar talent (outside the Big Ten), he got smoked more often than he won.  What he was doing at Ohio State I don't think would translate to KSU at all.

Tressel deserves full credit for getting that talent, imo. I don't think he would be as successful at K-State as he was at Ohio State, but we would have more talent on the roster than we have ever had.

To an extent, but the overwhelming majority of that talent came from in-state with a few other guys cherry-picked from surrounding states like Pennsylvania, Illinois and Indiana.  Ohio State practically does that on it's own.  Cooper did.  Meyer certainly is and then some.

Meyer is one of the best two coaches in college football. Michigan also recruits itself, but they are dogshit.

My point is that the guy before and the guy after Tressel both recruited as well or better than he did at Ohio State.  Michigan recruiting started slipping in Carr's last few seasons and RR was a train wreck.  Then they followed that up with a silent fart hire in Hoke.  They're mumped in the head if they still think they're on Ohio State's level.  More importantly, Michigan doesn't have the in-state talent pool that Ohio State does.  It's not even remotely close.  Ohio State could exlusively recruit Ohio kids and still be the most talented team in the Big Ten every year.  Not a good comparo.

Big 12ers need to think of OSU - UM as UT - OU but with the big difference of OSU is the trashy, win at all costs Tshirt fan base school is actually in the state with all the players while the elitist, act like they do it the right way school is not.

Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 12, 2012, 11:42:28 AM
On a serious note, I could totally see Currie going after Gus Malzahn.

Flashy name, Sun Belt HC that would jump at the job, etc.

I'd put him on the short list.

Dimel is a better O-Coordinator than Malzahn, probably would be a better head coach too.
Title: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 11:43:16 AM
Agreed mixed berry
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: KSUBrian on October 12, 2012, 11:46:41 AM
KU fans yammering about Mangino roaming the KSU sidelines all season. Anybody ITK about if this is true?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 11:48:00 AM
KU fans yammering about Mangino roaming the KSU sidelines all season. Anybody ITK about if this is true?

I had a KU fan ask me if I thought we would hire Mangino after Snyder just last weekend. I assured him that Currie would find somebody much worse.
Title: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 11:48:55 AM
Mangino was at the cotton bowl, last sighting I'm aware of
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CNS on October 12, 2012, 11:50:57 AM
Pinkle is going to be available in the next year or two.

Also, if we hire Dooley, I will find our donor list and murder someone from the list every day that he is our coach until Currie notices that he won't have any living donors left and makes a change.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2012, 11:59:11 AM
Pinkle is going to be available in the next year or two.

would take
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: POWL on October 12, 2012, 12:09:05 PM
Pinkle is going to be available in the next year or two.

would take

don't like
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on October 12, 2012, 12:10:09 PM
Pinkle is going to be available in the next year or two.

would take

meh
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Institutional Control on October 12, 2012, 12:13:06 PM
Pinkle is going to be available in the next year or two.

would take

meh

Pinkle must be a decent recruiter. I mean, if he can get kids to want to go Columbia... He'd probably have 5 stars lined up to come to Manhattan.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on October 12, 2012, 12:14:28 PM
true, but icing his kicker twice is all i need to know about his in game abilities
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2012, 12:15:35 PM
Pinkle is going to be available in the next year or two.

would take

meh

I'm not 100% sure you've seen the rest of the names mentioned in this thread, but it's mehville city, population every name mentioned in this thread.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: AppleJack on October 12, 2012, 12:18:03 PM
I'm hearing Chip Kelly. A- source.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 12, 2012, 12:20:08 PM
pinkle benefitted greatly from two simple things...

1) a down kstate
2) being the least crappy school (isu, ku, mu) in his area/region.

even with that, he never accomplished anything and seems to be going downhill quickly. i'll take someone who isn't a proven loser over pinkle thank you very much.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2012, 12:21:19 PM
pinkle benefitted greatly from two simple things...

1) a down kstate
2) being the least crappy school (isu, ku, mu) in his area/region.

even with that, he never accomplished anything and seems to be going downhill quickly. i'll take someone who isn't a proven loser over pinkle thank you very much.

Given the proven losers available, I'll stick w/ Pinkel, thanks. Best Proven Loser Available aka BPLA.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 12, 2012, 12:26:04 PM
pinkle benefitted greatly from two simple things...

1) a down kstate
2) being the least crappy school (isu, ku, mu) in his area/region.

even with that, he never accomplished anything and seems to be going downhill quickly. i'll take someone who isn't a proven loser over pinkle thank you very much.

Given the proven losers available, I'll stick w/ Pinkel, thanks. Best Proven Loser Available aka BPLA.

he's 47-45 in conference at mu and that's including the fact that he got to play ku and isu every year. no thanks. he's also sixty, a drunk and i don't think he cares much about being a fball coach anymore. i'll roll the dice on someone else.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2012, 12:30:58 PM
pinkle benefitted greatly from two simple things...

1) a down kstate
2) being the least crappy school (isu, ku, mu) in his area/region.

even with that, he never accomplished anything and seems to be going downhill quickly. i'll take someone who isn't a proven loser over pinkle thank you very much.

Given the proven losers available, I'll stick w/ Pinkel, thanks. Best Proven Loser Available aka BPLA.

he's 47-45 in conference at mu and that's including the fact that he got to play ku and isu every year. no thanks. he's also sixty, a drunk and i don't think he cares much about being a fball coach anymore. i'll roll the dice on someone else.

Snyder was 33-32 in conference games over the same time period.

But I would also rather roll the dice. But I don't think we will.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: catzacker on October 12, 2012, 12:34:53 PM
i'd rather double down on Dimel (DDOD <--- copyrighted).  I might consider Charlie Strong.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 12, 2012, 12:44:42 PM
Fire Currie, hire someone who will in turn hire Jim Leavitt.

Disappointed that in 5 pages of posts none of you guys figured out the winning move.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 12:49:04 PM
Fire Currie, hire someone who will in turn hire Jim Leavitt.

Disappointed that in 5 pages of posts none of you guys figured out the winning move.

I don't think you'll find a ton of Leavitt support here.

I mean, compared to who we "could" get, sure.  But, I don't know, I'm still very "meh" on him.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 12, 2012, 12:49:06 PM
Fire Currie, hire someone who will in turn hire Jim Leavitt.

Disappointed that in 5 pages of posts none of you guys figured out the winning move.


do not want. what if we would throw 1.2mil at dimel though and then like 700k at leavitt.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 12:50:02 PM
Fire Currie, hire someone who will in turn hire Jim Leavitt.

Disappointed that in 5 pages of posts none of you guys figured out the winning move.


do not want. what if we would throw 1.2mil at dimel though and then like 700k at leavitt.  :dunno:

If you're talking about AHC/DC on Leavitt, then definitely would take.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 12, 2012, 12:50:55 PM
Fire Currie, hire someone who will in turn hire Jim Leavitt.

Disappointed that in 5 pages of posts none of you guys figured out the winning move.


do not want. what if we would throw 1.2mil at dimel though and then like 700k at leavitt.  :dunno:

If you're talking about AHC/DC on Leavitt, then definitely would take.

yes.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 12:53:10 PM
Fire Currie, hire someone who will in turn hire Jim Leavitt.

Disappointed that in 5 pages of posts none of you guys figured out the winning move.


do not want. what if we would throw 1.2mil at dimel though and then like 700k at leavitt.  :dunno:

If you're talking about AHC/DC on Leavitt, then definitely would take.

yes.

This is a really interesting strategy that I'm surprised most non-elite schools don't try.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: slackcat on October 12, 2012, 12:54:51 PM
Why would Leavitt leave the NFL for anything less than HC position?  Won't happen.  Dimel or I'm outa here. :driving:
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: sys on October 12, 2012, 12:56:55 PM
The lie was that Bill enjoys anything in life other than coaching football. He couldn't bear to hang out with his family for 3 years. He isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

snyder was perfectly happy puttering around the house.  his family told him they preferred him bringing home two million per annum to seeing him.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 12, 2012, 12:57:09 PM
Why would Leavitt leave the NFL for anything less than HC position?  Won't happen.  Dimel or I'm outa here. :driving:

idk. 700 or 800k would double his salary and get him back into college. a few good years as DC and then maybe a head coaching shot again somewhere else?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Panjandrum on October 12, 2012, 12:57:55 PM
The lie was that Bill enjoys anything in life other than coaching football. He couldn't bear to hang out with his family for 3 years. He isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

snyder was perfectly happy puttering around the house.  his family told him they preferred him bringing home two million per annum to seeing him.

Well, he does have grandchildren that need trust funds.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: slackcat on October 12, 2012, 01:04:59 PM
Why would Leavitt leave the NFL for anything less than HC position?  Won't happen.  Dimel or I'm outa here. :driving:

idk. 700 or 800k would double his salary and get him back into college. a few good years as DC and then maybe a head coaching shot again somewhere else?  :dunno:

He could do that but I don't think he's had his current gig long enough to have explored all promotional opportunities.

but ass ugly too
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: EMAWmeister on October 12, 2012, 01:05:47 PM
If Georgia flight 93s this season, Mark Richt is gone.  He's been on the hot seat for like half a decade.


OR KIRK HERBSTREIT!!!!!
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 12, 2012, 01:08:04 PM
Why would Leavitt leave the NFL for anything less than HC position?  Won't happen.  Dimel or I'm outa here. :driving:

idk. 700 or 800k would double his salary and get him back into college. a few good years as DC and then maybe a head coaching shot again somewhere else?  :dunno:

He could do that but I don't think he's had his current gig long enough to have explored all promotional opportunities.

but ass ugly too

Dana Dimel career coaching record: 30-39

Jim Leavitt career coaching record: 95-57
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rams on October 12, 2012, 01:08:33 PM
I think snyder can and will make a power play here. I agree with what others have said that he wants sean but knows that's not viable at this point.  the best way to keep sean in line eventually is to pass the reigns to dimel.  snyder goes to currie and says "hey whenever you're ready to hire dimel I'll do whatever I can to make it a smooth transition.  until then, I'll be down on the sidelines if you need me."  turns and walks off. stops. turns around.  "oh...one more thing...if you think you're gonna force me out and hire somebody else, things are going to get really ugly really fast. just fyi. k. thnx."
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: 8manpick on October 12, 2012, 01:09:22 PM
Herbie4KSU
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Shacks on October 12, 2012, 01:11:56 PM
The lie was that Bill enjoys anything in life other than coaching football. He couldn't bear to hang out with his family for 3 years. He isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

snyder was perfectly happy puttering around the house.  his family told him they preferred him bringing home two million per annum to seeing him.

Well, he does have grandchildren that need trust funds.

And a scholarship that is 100% nepotism
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on October 12, 2012, 01:17:27 PM
gary pinkle would be the equivalent of oscar weber, without the nc appearance. take that as you will.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 12, 2012, 01:19:06 PM
What about that Garden Plain HSHC?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: EMAWmeister on October 12, 2012, 01:19:14 PM
eff gary pinkel
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: deputy dawg on October 12, 2012, 01:21:17 PM
Fire Currie, hire someone who will in turn hire Jim Leavitt.

Disappointed that in 5 pages of posts none of you guys figured out the winning move.


do not want. what if we would throw 1.2mil at dimel though and then like 700k at leavitt.  :dunno:

If you're talking about AHC/DC on Leavitt, then definitely would take.

Agreed.  Currie already vetoed Leavitt coming on staff, which is my reason for wanting Currie out.  I'll take Leavitt on the sidelines here any way we can get him--his DC abilities and FL recruiting ties make him worth it in whatever way we can get him here.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CNS on October 12, 2012, 01:24:38 PM
Mike
Mother
rough ridin'
Leach
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 12, 2012, 01:24:44 PM
Fire Currie, hire someone who will in turn hire Jim Leavitt.

Disappointed that in 5 pages of posts none of you guys figured out the winning move.


do not want. what if we would throw 1.2mil at dimel though and then like 700k at leavitt.  :dunno:

If you're talking about AHC/DC on Leavitt, then definitely would take.

Agreed.  Currie already vetoed Leavitt coming on staff, which is my reason for wanting Currie out.  I'll take Leavitt on the sidelines here any way we can get him--his DC abilities and FL recruiting ties make him worth it in whatever way we can get him here.

Agreed.  The fact that he has successfully built a program from the ground up also carries a lot of weight.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2012, 01:51:01 PM
Gary Pinkel is probably the best coach MU has ever had. Not comparable to Weber.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Domino on October 12, 2012, 01:51:18 PM
For those not ITK, who currently on the staff has CA connections?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: sys on October 12, 2012, 02:25:01 PM
i dunno who the fresno st coach is, but they seem to win most weeks.  he probably has ca connections too.  and, i mean, he'd take the job.

three good reasons.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 12, 2012, 02:31:40 PM
I think snyder can and will make a power play here. I agree with what others have said that he wants sean but knows that's not viable at this point.  the best way to keep sean in line eventually is to pass the reigns to dimel.  snyder goes to currie and says "hey whenever you're ready to hire dimel I'll do whatever I can to make it a smooth transition.  until then, I'll be down on the sidelines if you need me."  turns and walks off. stops. turns around.  "oh...one more thing...if you think you're gonna force me out and hire somebody else, things are going to get really ugly really fast. just fyi. k. thnx."
Why in the eff do you think Currie would want to get rid of the reason we are ranked and getting tons of bucks from donors.  Give me a break and think about what you post.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 12, 2012, 02:34:38 PM
Gary Pinkel is probably the best coach MU has ever had. Not comparable to Weber.
Only problem, he makes more at MU than Bill.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: slobber on October 12, 2012, 02:37:41 PM
Gary Pinkel is probably the best coach MU has ever had. Not comparable to Weber.
Only problem, he makes more at MU than Bill.
He has to get fired from MU before Currie will hire him.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 12, 2012, 02:44:34 PM
Gary Pinkel is probably the best coach MU has ever had. Not comparable to Weber.
Only problem, he makes more at MU than Bill.
He has to get fired from MU before Currie will hire him.
Yep, and who would want somebody's failure... Rusty?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2012, 02:45:59 PM
Gary Pinkel is probably the best coach MU has ever had. Not comparable to Weber.
Only problem, he makes more at MU than Bill.

Our next coach will be paid more than Bill, regardless of how shitty the selection ends up being.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 12, 2012, 02:54:07 PM
Gary Pinkel is probably the best coach MU has ever had. Not comparable to Weber.
Only problem, he makes more at MU than Bill.

Our next coach will be paid more than Bill, regardless of how shitty the selection ends up being.
Are you sure.  LHCBS gets royalties from the Power Cat, that's why good ole RP wanted something different to represent the teams.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Harry Dunne on October 12, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
Gary Pinkel is probably the best coach MU has ever had. Not comparable to Weber.
Only problem, he makes more at MU than Bill.
He has to get fired from MU before Currie will hire him.

one of my cousins is a strength coach for them, says he wont be back after this year.
also, do not want.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: 0.42 on October 12, 2012, 02:59:36 PM
Gottlieb.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 12, 2012, 03:04:04 PM
Bob Stoops will be our next head coach.  It has been written... This will be the way.  You will see.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 12, 2012, 03:11:18 PM
I hope everyone ragging on Pinkel is fine with taking a chance on a complete unknown, (like I am), because Currie won't hire someone you've heard of that would be better than a fired Gary Pinkel.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 12, 2012, 03:21:32 PM
Bielema could get fired by the time we need a coach. Fired Bielema would be a prime JC target.

edit: sorry, thats stupid, he wont get fired.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Institutional Control on October 12, 2012, 03:31:35 PM
Bob Stoops will be our next head coach.  It has been written... This will be the way.  You will see.
Meh, we could do better.

KSU would be a huge step up for Stoops.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: ben ji on October 12, 2012, 03:41:36 PM
I'm pretty sure that is we offered Les Miles he would accept. I've heard he is tired of the pressure cooker that is LSU and is looking to get back in the Big12.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: RickRampus on October 12, 2012, 03:43:21 PM
Mike
Mother
rough ridin'
Leach

oh man, I love the pirate #CJK5H
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Fill My Bill on October 12, 2012, 03:49:05 PM
Mike
Mother
rough ridin'
Leach

oh man, I love the pirate #CJK5H

I would be so down with Leach. He can store any player he wants in a locker/ warehouse/ refrigerator type area as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: 8manpick on October 12, 2012, 04:00:27 PM
Mike
Mother
rough ridin'
Leach

oh man, I love the pirate #CJK5H

I would be so down with Leach. He can store any player he wants in a locker/ warehouse/ refrigerator type area as far as I'm concerned.

Nobody puts baby Lockett in the closet!
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: kslim on October 12, 2012, 04:03:51 PM
my short list (in no particular order)

dimel
gruden
malzhan
the pirate
herbie
Title: Re: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Fill My Bill on October 12, 2012, 04:17:58 PM
Mike
Mother
rough ridin'
Leach

oh man, I love the pirate #CJK5H

I would be so down with Leach. He can store any player he wants in a locker/ warehouse/ refrigerator type area as far as I'm concerned.

Nobody puts baby Lockett in the closet!

But you know it would do him good in the long run. Make him a better person, etc.
Title: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 05:09:10 PM
Jim levit and Gary pinkle are rough ridin' losers. Weber level hires. Dimel hire dominates both of those.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 12, 2012, 05:12:18 PM
Jim levit and Gary pinkle are rough ridin' losers. Weber level hires. Dimel hire dominates both of those.

what about my dimel HC/levitt DC combo hire suggesto?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: kslim on October 12, 2012, 05:13:19 PM
my short list (in no particular order)

dimel
gruden
malzhan
the pirate
herbie-as a coordinator im not sold on hiring analysts in a hc role just yet
edit: not overly impressed after reading up on him a bit more also his wife is batshit crazy. gonna look for a replacement
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 12, 2012, 05:21:45 PM
Jim levit and Gary pinkle are rough ridin' losers. Weber level hires. Dimel hire dominates both of those.

Coaching records indicate otherwise, and neither was fired for performance.  Dimel, on the other hand, is worse than Weber as he has been fired from schools that people forget exist.
Title: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 12, 2012, 05:34:56 PM
Jim levit and Gary pinkle are rough ridin' losers. Weber level hires. Dimel hire dominates both of those.

what about my dimel HC/levitt DC combo hire suggesto?

Ok I guess, whenever Hayes is ready to hang it up.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: wetwillie on October 12, 2012, 06:36:31 PM
Two things:

1.  Bill isn't going to leave without at least tasting what it's like to have sams at the helm
2. Currie actually cares about this hire, he may swing and miss horribly but he isn't going to mail it in like with weber.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: OKclone on October 12, 2012, 06:51:49 PM
If bill steps down after this year, currie should hire Dimel, imo.  he won't, unfortunately.  I’m guessing Ron Zook, so we can get all the losers fired from Illinois.

It's going to be either Chizik or Dooley.

I hope it's chizzledick.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Katpappy on October 12, 2012, 08:42:46 PM
If bill steps down after this year, currie should hire Dimel, imo.  he won't, unfortunately.  I’m guessing Ron Zook, so we can get all the losers fired from Illinois.

It's going to be either Chizik or Dooley.

I hope it's chizzledick.
I gotta hand it to you OKclone, of all the put downs and insults we endured; this is the mother of all ZINGERS.  :shakesfist:
Title: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 13, 2012, 12:54:53 PM
Hope the people who say Gruden wouldn't consider coaching here have been watching these Hooters commercials.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 03:00:59 PM
2. Currie actually cares about this hire, he may swing and miss horribly but he isn't going to mail it in like with weber.

Yes. Currie may not always have k-state's best interests in mind but he didn't give a eff about basketball; this football hire will be his baby.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CHONGS on October 13, 2012, 03:02:45 PM
Yeah Currie doesn;t give a crap about football because he knows that what our fanbase wants.

HE will throw a  crap tonne of money at the next head coach.  He wants a BIG splash.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 03:03:13 PM
Dimel would be by far the best hire for people that want to see sams win a heisman his senior year.

Not so sure how good of a hire it would be after that.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 03:06:08 PM
Yeah Currie doesn;t give a crap about football because he knows that what our fanbase wants.

HE will throw a  crap tonne of money at the next head coach.  He wants a BIG splash.

They have already been collecting money for awhile. Everyone knows this is huge. Weber was a safe hire that we didn't have to splurge on in a sport that doesn't matter at all revenue-wise. He may very well eff this up but it won't be for lack of funds or a legitimate coaching search.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 03:11:45 PM
With the amount of cash in mind to throw at the next coach, Dimel is only acceptable as a long-term hire if we also throw cash at someone like a Leavitt to come in as a d-cordinator, IMO
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 03:12:09 PM
We can do this guys. We can hire someone good.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 03:20:20 PM
I'm getting excited just thinking about it. It is night and day comparing our position to hire somone competent at this point in time as compared to 2005. Let's go do it.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 03:22:35 PM
Who's with me? I donated 10 dollars to the Ahearn Fund the other day. What did you do?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 13, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
I swear, the "Currie didn't care about the basketball hire but cares about the football hire" is one of the dumbest theories KSU has ever had, and we've had some pretty dumb theories.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CHONGS on October 13, 2012, 03:37:33 PM
I swear, the "Currie didn't care about the basketball hire but cares about the football hire" is one of the dumbest theories KSU has ever had, and we've had some pretty dumb theories.
I rough ridin' disagree.

Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 13, 2012, 03:39:36 PM
I swear, the "Currie didn't care about the basketball hire but cares about the football hire" is one of the dumbest theories KSU has ever had, and we've had some pretty dumb theories.

They are people that are just in denial about how terrible the Weber hire was in order to keep some hope for the future of KSU FB.  The only believable theory that comes close to this theory is that once Currie realized he wasn't going to make a splash hire costing $2-$3MM, he decided to do the best he could at Frank's salary while not breaking his budget so he has more flexibility for the FB hire.  However, to think that Currie didn't get the guy he thought was best for the job $1.5MM is ridiculous.  He gave it his best shot with $1.5MM, problem is his best still yielded a shitty hire.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 04:01:15 PM
He got a guy that wouldn't cause any problems and didn't break the bank. And would be the exact opposite of Frank, because Currie was sick of Frank. These two items were a priority over getting the best possible coach, because basketball doesn't make any money, and currie is a money guy. The football hire is unequivocally more important and there is actual money on the line, and currie loves money. He may be an bad person who wants to get out of manhattan, but he's smart and rough ridin' loves money.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 13, 2012, 04:04:28 PM
He got a guy that wouldn't cause any problems and didn't break the bank. And would be the exact opposite of Frank, because Currie was sick of Frank. These two items were a priority over getting the best possible coach, because basketball doesn't make any money, and currie is a money guy. The football hire is unequivocally more important and there is actual money on the line, and currie loves money. He may be an bad person who wants to get out of manhattan, but he's smart and rough ridin' loves money.

there is enough money on the line in basketball to try. Like you said, Currie is a money guy, and money guys don't throw away hires responsible for several million in profit. He tried, and thinks he did a good job.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 04:09:32 PM
He got a guy that wouldn't cause any problems and didn't break the bank. And would be the exact opposite of Frank, because Currie was sick of Frank. These two items were a priority over getting the best possible coach, because basketball doesn't make any money, and currie is a money guy. The football hire is unequivocally more important and there is actual money on the line, and currie loves money. He may be an bad person who wants to get out of manhattan, but he's smart and rough ridin' loves money.

there is enough money on the line in basketball to try. Like you said, Currie is a money guy, and money guys don't throw away hires responsible for several million in profit. He tried, and thinks he did a good job.

I think he thinks he did a good job of hiring someone that fit the criteria I mentioned above. Granted, he probably does have a higher opinion of Weber than most on here. The football hire will have a different set of criteria.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 13, 2012, 04:11:57 PM
The football hire will have a different set of criteria.

It won't. No reason to think it would.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Gooch on October 13, 2012, 04:18:01 PM
The football hire will have a different set of criteria.

It won't. No reason to think it would.
I rough ridin' pray that you are wrong Rusty
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 04:18:46 PM
The football hire will have a different set of criteria.

It won't. No reason to think it would.

There's lots of reasons. Try to be positive.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 13, 2012, 04:20:32 PM
The football hire will have a different set of criteria.

It won't. No reason to think it would.

There's lots of reasons. Try to be positive.

most of the reasons involve wishful thinking and dreams and none of them involve logic or reality.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 13, 2012, 04:26:46 PM
The football hire will have a different set of criteria.

It won't. No reason to think it would.

There's lots of reasons. Try to be positive.

most of the reasons involve wishful thinking and dreams and none of them involve logic or reality.

The truth is we had the best momentum in last 25 years of KSU B-Ball and were putting the finishing touches on a $20MM B-Ball practice facility and Currie turned that into "hey, this 80-year-old man recommended his best friend (Weber was the best man at his wedding this summer) who just got fired for going 50-56 the last 6 years in the Big10, including 6-12 last year...stop the search, I'm going to trust this old man's word about his best friend."  Even if he was actively trying to put in minimum effort into the B-Ball coaching search, he still made a shitty hire.  That's the worst part.  Even if it were true that he didn't care about the B-Ball hire, it was still a terrible hire. 
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: sys on October 13, 2012, 05:27:54 PM
isn't the oline coach supposed to be kstate's best coach?  just hire him and be done with it.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: swish1 on October 13, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
James Franklin
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 13, 2012, 07:56:05 PM
Dimel would be by far the best hire for people that want to see sams win a heisman his senior year.

Not so sure how good of a hire it would be after that.

Yeah, but Dimel could either recruit another stud QB or we would fire him post-Sams. This stuff works itself out. I want to hire the coach who will have the best record over the next 3-4 years, and I think Dimel very well could be our best choice.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 13, 2012, 09:38:34 PM
Why wasn't Dimel successful as a head coach before?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rams on October 13, 2012, 10:23:30 PM
Why wasn't Dimel successful as a head coach before?

he was pretty successful at wyoming.  he stunk at houston, but it may have been a product of wrong place, wrong time.  :dunno:  art briles did alright with his recruits.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 13, 2012, 11:07:54 PM
The football hire will have a different set of criteria.

It won't. No reason to think it would.
I rough ridin' pray that you are wrong Rusty

Why would it be different?  It will be a "safe" hire, which translates to someone that won't cause problems, most of the tucks have heard of, and at least has some token success in his background for Currie to talk about at the press conference.  The first guy Currie's buddy mentions that fits that criteria will be hired, before he even boards the plane to spend 4 days in Dallas watching porn in the hotel room.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Kat Kid on October 13, 2012, 11:11:37 PM
The football hire will have a different set of criteria.

It won't. No reason to think it would.

There's lots of reasons. Try to be positive.

most of the reasons involve wishful thinking and dreams and none of them involve logic or reality.

Well just what in the hell do you think this season is made out of kRusty?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Barry McCockner on October 13, 2012, 11:11:50 PM
Why wasn't Dimel successful as a head coach before?

he was pretty successful at wyoming.  he stunk at houston, but it may have been a product of wrong place, wrong time.  :dunno:  art briles did alright with his recruits.

He never made a bowl game in a shitty conference.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: swish1 on October 13, 2012, 11:12:44 PM
So nobody thinks that what James Franklin has done at the duke of the SEC is impressive enough to give him a shot at Kstate?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 13, 2012, 11:14:56 PM
So nobody thinks that what James Franklin has done at the duke of the SEC is impressive enough to give him a shot at Kstate?

Franklin already makes $3MM and has a top-20 recruiting class this year.   He's not coming to KSU. 
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Kat Kid on October 13, 2012, 11:15:40 PM
So nobody thinks that what James Franklin has done at the duke of the SEC is impressive enough to give him a shot at Kstate?

None of our donors or admin do.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: swish1 on October 13, 2012, 11:16:57 PM
Not sure which of those is more accurate but Kat Kids response is much more depressing...
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: swish1 on October 13, 2012, 11:21:11 PM
So nobody thinks that what James Franklin has done at the duke of the SEC is impressive enough to give him a shot at Kstate?

Franklin already makes $3MM and has a top-20 recruiting class this year.   He's not coming to KSU.

where did you get that info?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Kat Kid on October 13, 2012, 11:58:38 PM
Somehow it makes me feel better that the most widely backed/realistic candidate to replace Mack Brown at UT is Paul Rhodes.

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/119607-Who-do-you-want-to-replace-Mack/page4 (http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/119607-Who-do-you-want-to-replace-Mack/page4)
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 14, 2012, 09:11:04 AM
So nobody thinks that what James Franklin has done at the duke of the SEC is impressive enough to give him a shot at Kstate?

Franklin already makes $3MM and has a top-20 recruiting class this year.   He's not coming to KSU.

where did you get that info?

Here is the story from Vandy's rivals site about his pay raise:
http://vanderbilt.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1299592 (http://vanderbilt.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1299592)

Current recruiting rankings:
ESPN: 18
Scout: 18
Rivals: 16
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 14, 2012, 08:25:49 PM
So nobody thinks that what James Franklin has done at the duke of the SEC is impressive enough to give him a shot at Kstate?

Franklin already makes $3MM and has a top-20 recruiting class this year.   He's not coming to KSU.

where did you get that info?

Here is the story from Vandy's rivals site about his pay raise:
http://vanderbilt.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1299592 (http://vanderbilt.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1299592)

Current recruiting rankings:
ESPN: 18
Scout: 18
Rivals: 16
Info. from Coaches Hot Seat Site... James Franklin  $750,000.   Also, the site you referred too doesn't know crap.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 14, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
So nobody thinks that what James Franklin has done at the duke of the SEC is impressive enough to give him a shot at Kstate?

Franklin already makes $3MM and has a top-20 recruiting class this year.   He's not coming to KSU.

where did you get that info?

Here is the story from Vandy's rivals site about his pay raise:
http://vanderbilt.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1299592 (http://vanderbilt.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1299592)

Current recruiting rankings:
ESPN: 18
Scout: 18
Rivals: 16
Info. from Coaches Hot Seat Site... James Franklin  $750,000.

If you want to trust Coaches Hot Seat over a website dedicated to covering sports for a private institution for the FB coach's salary, I guess that's your choice. 
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 14, 2012, 08:34:41 PM
So nobody thinks that what James Franklin has done at the duke of the SEC is impressive enough to give him a shot at Kstate?

Franklin already makes $3MM and has a top-20 recruiting class this year.   He's not coming to KSU.

where did you get that info?

Here is the story from Vandy's rivals site about his pay raise:
http://vanderbilt.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1299592 (http://vanderbilt.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1299592)

Current recruiting rankings:
ESPN: 18
Scout: 18
Rivals: 16
Info. from Coaches Hot Seat Site... James Franklin  $750,000.

If you want to trust Coaches Hot Seat over a website dedicated to covering sports for a private institution for the FB coach's salary, I guess that's your choice.
They're already talking about Franklin losing his OC.  Let give him more time; could be another Turner Gill.  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: p1k3 on October 14, 2012, 08:35:14 PM
Why would we want Franklin?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: DQ12 on October 14, 2012, 08:37:06 PM
Right or wrong, James Franklin isn't an option imo because tucks associate him with Prince.  Dimel is a guy that tucks and non-tucks can get behind. 

He's a good Snyder disciple who knows what it takes to win in MHK and will have Snyder's blessing.  All of that is important to me.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 14, 2012, 08:41:14 PM
As anybody considered Sonny Dykes.
Sonny Dykes La. Tech 42 WAC $400,000  :cool:
Title: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 14, 2012, 08:53:32 PM
Right or wrong, James Franklin isn't an option imo because tucks associate him with Prince.  Dimel is a guy that tucks and non-tucks can get behind. 

He's a good Snyder disciple who knows what it takes to win in MHK and will have Snyder's blessing.  All of that is important to me.

Plus I think he's a good coach and human being
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 14, 2012, 09:01:17 PM
As anybody considered Sonny Dykes.
Sonny Dykes La. Tech 42 WAC $400,000  :cool:

Jewish.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 14, 2012, 09:02:54 PM
As anybody considered Sonny Dykes.
Sonny Dykes La. Tech 42 WAC $400,000  :cool:

Jewish.
Saul will get you for that.  :nono:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 14, 2012, 09:35:58 PM
As anybody considered Sonny Dykes.
Sonny Dykes La. Tech 42 WAC $400,000  :cool:

Jewish.
Saul will get you for that.  :nono:

 http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2012/10/12/3493452/haircut-switching-works-in-all-formats
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: eastcat on October 14, 2012, 09:47:37 PM
We should find the cheapest pud coach possible, pay him 30K to stand on the sidelines, send another 10k for a years supply of natty light and spend the rest of the money on players/hookers/blow/massive yacht on tuttle (when it fills back up).

It worked for miami/cam newton. I think it will work here too guys.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 14, 2012, 10:08:15 PM
As anybody considered Sonny Dykes.
Sonny Dykes La. Tech 42 WAC $400,000  :cool:

I think he'll be on Arky's list at the end of the year.  They have the roster for his offense already, so the transition would be pretty minimal, all things considered.

If not them, Tennessee and Auburn are going to be shopping as well.  I think he'd get at least one of those three jobs.  Maybe even Kentucky if he feels jumpy enough.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2012, 10:30:56 PM
Louisiana Monroe's coach.  Aren't they the one that went around making the SEC cry for a while earlier this year?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 14, 2012, 10:38:16 PM
Louisiana Tech's Monroe's coach.  Aren't they the one that went around making the SEC cry for a while earlier this year?
Almost beat aTm in a score fest yesterday.  62-60  By the way, FYP.  :)
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 14, 2012, 10:39:11 PM
Louisiana Monroe's coach.  Aren't they the one that went around making the SEC cry for a while earlier this year?
Almost beat aTm in a score fest yesterday.  62-60

Nope
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 14, 2012, 10:39:47 PM
Louisiana Monroe's coach.  Aren't they the one that went around making the SEC cry for a while earlier this year?
Almost beat aTm in a score fest yesterday.  62-60

Pretty sure that was La Tech.  Monroe did give Baylor all they could handle though.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 14, 2012, 10:43:46 PM
Louisiana Monroe's coach.  Aren't they the one that went around making the SEC cry for a while earlier this year?
Almost beat aTm in a score fest yesterday.  62-60

Pretty sure that was La Tech.  Monroe did give Baylor all they could handle though.
Yes, just hit post before I was finished posting.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 14, 2012, 10:54:48 PM
I don't want the coach at Louisiana Monroe.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Katpappy on October 14, 2012, 10:56:26 PM
I don't want the coach at Louisiana Monroe.
Not my favorite either.  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 15, 2012, 08:47:52 AM
I'm not even sure if ULM is the best team in the Sun Belt.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: scottwildcat on October 15, 2012, 09:06:47 AM
Guys...I'm scared about what will happen after  :bill: leaves. I like being good...IT IS SO MUCH rough ridin' FUN
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on October 15, 2012, 09:34:41 AM
How much will it cost to build a football coaching super computer?  I am thinking it may have substantial startup costs but over time it would be a bargain.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2012, 10:02:27 AM
Guys, here is my plan.  Listen to it all they way through before judging it:

We win the NC this year and get CK the Heisman.

Then, we figure out some sort of sacrificial ceremony and sacrifice CK to keep Bill alive. 

I mean, it would totally be worth it.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 15, 2012, 10:06:12 AM
Guys, here is my plan.  Listen to it all they way through before judging it:

We win the NC this year and get CK the Heisman.

Then, we figure out some sort of sacrificial ceremony and sacrifice CK to keep Bill alive. 

I mean, it would totally be worth it.

why don't we sacrifice someone who sucks that nobody will miss like paul roads or something
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2012, 10:11:30 AM
Guys, here is my plan.  Listen to it all they way through before judging it:

We win the NC this year and get CK the Heisman.

Then, we figure out some sort of sacrificial ceremony and sacrifice CK to keep Bill alive. 

I mean, it would totally be worth it.

why don't we sacrifice someone who sucks that nobody will miss like paul roads or something

Look, I am not an expert, but all the movies that have stuff like this in it always make a big deal out of it having to be someone important.  So, I am thinking that not only will CK be important right after knocking down both the NC and the Heisman, but he will have no more use to us at that point.  Win-Win
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Kat Kid on October 15, 2012, 10:54:36 AM
Collin Klein would probably be a good coach.  Maybe too "jesus-y?"
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 15, 2012, 11:05:26 AM
Collin Klein would probably be a good coach.  Maybe too "jesus-y?"

I don't think you can be too "jesus-y" to coach football. Klein definitely runs our offense well. That doesn't always translate into quality coaching, but I'm sure somebody will give him a chance if the NFL thing doesn't work out.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Kat Kid on October 15, 2012, 11:14:01 AM
Collin Klein would probably be a good coach.  Maybe too "jesus-y?"

I don't think you can be too "jesus-y" to coach football. Klein definitely runs our offense well. That doesn't always translate into quality coaching, but I'm sure somebody will give him a chance if the NFL thing doesn't work out.

Gill?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 15, 2012, 11:15:53 AM
Collin Klein would probably be a good coach.  Maybe too "jesus-y?"

I don't think you can be too "jesus-y" to coach football. Klein definitely runs our offense well. That doesn't always translate into quality coaching, but I'm sure somebody will give him a chance if the NFL thing doesn't work out.

Gill?

Yeah, if you start instituting "no girls allowed" policies it can blow up in your face. McCartney was as jesus-y as they come, though, and he won a national championship.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Institutional Control on October 15, 2012, 11:18:29 AM
Collin Klein would probably be a good coach.  Maybe too "jesus-y?"

I don't think you can be too "jesus-y" to coach football. Klein definitely runs our offense well. That doesn't always translate into quality coaching, but I'm sure somebody will give him a chance if the NFL thing doesn't work out.

Gill?

Yeah, if you start instituting "no girls allowed" policies it can blow up in your face. McCartney was as jesus-y as they come, though, and he won a national championship.

Because Jesus gave them a 5th down.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 15, 2012, 11:20:34 AM
Every time I try to picture Klein as a coach, I just see an image of Bronco Mendenhall.

It's weird.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 15, 2012, 11:20:57 AM
Collin Klein would probably be a good coach.  Maybe too "jesus-y?"

I don't think you can be too "jesus-y" to coach football. Klein definitely runs our offense well. That doesn't always translate into quality coaching, but I'm sure somebody will give him a chance if the NFL thing doesn't work out.

Gill?

Yeah, if you start instituting "no girls allowed" policies it can blow up in your face. McCartney was as jesus-y as they come, though, and he won a national championship.

Because Jesus gave them a 5th down.

Yeah
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 15, 2012, 11:35:26 AM
Frank Solich.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Mr Bread on October 15, 2012, 11:49:08 AM
Collin Klein would probably be a good coach.  Maybe too "jesus-y?"

I don't think you can be too "jesus-y" to coach football. Klein definitely runs our offense well. That doesn't always translate into quality coaching, but I'm sure somebody will give him a chance if the NFL thing doesn't work out.

Gill?

Yeah, if you start instituting "no girls allowed" policies it can blow up in your face. McCartney was as jesus-y as they come, though, and he won a national championship.

Because Jesus gave them a 5th down.

Yeah

Also his daughter was a pretty huge slut who was banging players and got knocked up by one of them.  #recruitingadvantage
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 15, 2012, 12:05:10 PM
I don't want someone I've heard of or is currently a head coach at a piece of crap sun belt or mac school.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 15, 2012, 12:08:25 PM
I don't want someone I've heard of or is currently a head coach at a piece of crap sun belt or mac school.

get behind dimel rus. if for no other reason than there is no way currie will allow it and we can get super steamed at him.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 15, 2012, 12:09:48 PM
I don't want someone I've heard of or is currently a head coach at a piece of crap sun belt or mac school.

get behind dimel rus. if for no other reason than there is no way currie will allow it and we can get super steamed at him.

I don't want to get behind anyone. Too deflating. but it would be pretty cool to have two coaches named dana in the same conference.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: slobber on October 15, 2012, 01:59:51 PM
doesn't that freak jerry kill have a foaming at the mouth seizure and almost die every 30 minutes?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmegasportsnews.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F12%2FJerry-Kill-Minnesota-football-coach-courtesy-of-Minnesota-athletics.jpg&hash=dc4fc2dc83e205807df3ad6aa751a9f071dd205f)

 :sdeek:
I don't know about every 30 minutes, but...probably pretty close. I think he read this thread over the weekend and it caused another one. He is all better now, until he has another one.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 15, 2012, 02:02:06 PM
yeah, kind of called my shot there
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 15, 2012, 04:46:59 PM
Paul Rhodes is just an above average SLTH. We all recognize that right?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 15, 2012, 04:49:33 PM
Guys, here is my plan.  Listen to it all they way through before judging it:

We win the NC this year and get CK the Heisman.

Then, we figure out some sort of sacrificial ceremony and sacrifice CK to keep Bill alive. 

I mean, it would totally be worth it.

why don't we sacrifice someone who sucks that nobody will miss like paul roads or something

Just saw this. But, yeah.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2012, 04:49:51 PM
I would say he is just a plain avg one.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 15, 2012, 04:51:32 PM
I would say he is just a plain avg one.

You may be right CNS Casey
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 15, 2012, 04:54:21 PM
I just feel like some people see Rhodes as a young Bill or something. Rhodes would never do the things, or be capable of doing the things BS has done to win.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 15, 2012, 04:57:22 PM
I would love to see some big time school like Tennessee take a chance on Rhodes this offseason.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 15, 2012, 05:02:07 PM
I honestly think Rhodes believes that Bill's success comes from teaching great fundamentals or something.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 15, 2012, 05:04:37 PM
I honestly think Rhodes believes that Bill's success comes from teaching great fundamentals or something.

I think a lot of it does. Our team has excellent fundamentals, and other than the ISU game, almost never commits penalties.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Kat Kid on October 15, 2012, 05:21:48 PM
did everyone miss my link to shaggy bevo where they all wanted rhodes?  I mean jfc!  how depressing does that make our candidate list???
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Chico on October 15, 2012, 06:38:45 PM
did everyone miss my link to shaggy bevo where they all wanted rhodes?  I mean jfc!  how depressing does that make our candidate list???

Somebody should point out to them that Rhoads can't beat K-State either. Thinking...  Actually, nobody tell them.  It will be way more fun when they find out.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 15, 2012, 06:40:02 PM
did everyone miss my link to shaggy bevo where they all wanted rhodes?  I mean jfc!  how depressing does that make our candidate list???

kk, I already knew that. The dumbshits here saying, "I wouldn't want Gary Pinkel" just don't realize how bad our realistic list would look. It's why we should look in the Ron Prince neighborhood - just shoot from the hip and see what happens.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Benja on October 15, 2012, 06:57:56 PM
I honestly think Rhodes believes that Bill's success comes from teaching great fundamentals or something.

I think a lot of it does. Our team has excellent fundamentals, and other than the ISU game, almost never commits penalties.

Yeah, BS teams have great fundamentals, no doubt. A lot of that comes from the type of assistants BS hires. Bill's real coaching strengths though comes from being a rough ridin' master at putting together a balanced roster through whatever means necessary of the kind of kids that will run through walls and kill for him, and cultivating an intense group-think attitude focused on Bill's goals. It's really pretty amazing considering these are college kids were talking about. And another reason this stuff works best in a place like Manhattan, KS. Try pulling this crap off in Miami.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: qatzmanchu on October 15, 2012, 09:13:44 PM
Whats the consensus on David Doolorean from NIU?

Its straight out of Sun Tzu, we presumptively hire the only coach the KU kids will remember from their good year and thus remove any comfort and solace they could possibly talk them selves into after the inevitable collapse of front butt under his own weight.

He also meets my main criteria of being Brett Bulemias doppelganger. (Bretts a real dreamboat)

Could you even image the gameday specials of Bill and Dave taking daily walks discussimg football and life.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: DQ12 on October 15, 2012, 10:20:47 PM
Dudes.

We're getting a Del.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 15, 2012, 10:28:39 PM
Whats the consensus on David Doolorean from NIU?

Its straight out of Sun Tzu, we presumptively hire the only coach the KU kids will remember from their good year and thus remove any comfort and solace they could possibly talk them selves into after the inevitable collapse of front butt under his own weight.

He also meets my main criteria of being Brett Bulemias doppelganger. (Bretts a real dreamboat)

Could you even image the gameday specials of Bill and Dave taking daily walks discussimg football and life.

I don't want someone I've heard of or is currently a head coach at a piece of crap sun belt or mac school.

this jackass qualifies twice
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: OKclone on October 16, 2012, 02:30:44 PM
I hear that Chizzledick is probably getting fired from Auburn, I think he would be a perfect fit for you guys.

And it's Rhoads you idiots.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on October 16, 2012, 02:39:29 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m5f2kof1em1qcv5upo1_500.gif&hash=be4a37fa7a99b5cfcbcfb9765a60af35aa560b60)
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 16, 2012, 02:53:34 PM
I hear that Chizzledick is probably getting fired from Auburn, I think he would be a perfect fit for you guys.

And it's Rhoads you idiots.

that's not accurate
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CNS on October 16, 2012, 03:27:40 PM
no way Auburn fires whatshisnuts two years removed from an NC unless they know that he paid Cam and doesn't think he will be successful at buying the next Cam.

No way.

If the Auburn AD doesn't 100% know about alleged Cam money, that d00d is safer than Pinkel.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 16, 2012, 03:45:22 PM
I don't know. When you're rival has won 2 of the past 3 NC's and is knocking on the door of their 3rd in 4 years, I think it's possible.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CNS on October 16, 2012, 03:48:26 PM
I don't know. When you're rival has won 2 of the past 3 NC's and is knocking on the door of their 3rd in 4 years, I think it's possible.

Isn't that kinda like calling KU our Rival?  I mean, no one actually thinks that, right?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 16, 2012, 03:59:05 PM
Auburn should fire Chizik. He's horrible. He may be 2 years removed from a national championship, but he's never getting another one, so why keep him around?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CNS on October 16, 2012, 04:01:19 PM
Guys, can you imagine if Chizik was hired back at Texas to replace Mack?

Oh man.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 16, 2012, 04:03:42 PM
Guys, can you imagine if Chizik was hired back at Texas to replace Mack?

Oh man.

It's always hilarious when schools with tons of resources make shitty hires, but I don't see this happening.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 16, 2012, 04:06:29 PM
I don't know. When you're rival has won 2 of the past 3 NC's and is knocking on the door of their 3rd in 4 years, I think it's possible.

Isn't that kinda like calling KU our Rival?  I mean, no one actually thinks that, right?

Well, it's the only rivalry that is so big that 30 for 30 did a story about it. So no, it's not like calling KU our rival at all.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: CNS on October 16, 2012, 04:07:53 PM
LSECIQ on my part. 

Oh well.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 16, 2012, 04:12:24 PM
KU thinks they are our rival, CNS Casey.
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: ELL3 on October 16, 2012, 04:13:12 PM
there've been some high level rumblings/grumblings that this could be it for bill even before the season started.

They want Bill out or he is ready to to spend time with his great grandchildren?
Title: Re: Are the waters calm yet?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 16, 2012, 04:14:30 PM
there've been some high level rumblings/grumblings that this could be it for bill even before the season started.

They want Bill out or he is ready to to spend time with his great grandchildren?

Only John Currie wants Bill gone. Everybody else wishes he were immortal so he'd never leave.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: DQ12 on October 16, 2012, 04:16:58 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m5f2kof1em1qcv5upo1_500.gif&hash=be4a37fa7a99b5cfcbcfb9765a60af35aa560b60)
Or Dooloreans

 :grin:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: OKclone on October 16, 2012, 04:30:03 PM
no way Auburn fires whatshisnuts two years removed from an NC unless they know that he paid Cam and doesn't think he will be successful at buying the next Cam.

No way.

If the Auburn AD doesn't 100% know about alleged Cam money, that d00d is safer than Pinkel.

I'm almost 100% certain you are wrong.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 16, 2012, 04:40:26 PM
no way Auburn fires whatshisnuts two years removed from an NC unless they know that he paid Cam and doesn't think he will be successful at buying the next Cam.

No way.

If the Auburn AD doesn't 100% know about alleged Cam money, that d00d is safer than Pinkel.

I'm almost 100% certain you are wrong.
you seem to be a compulsive liar, didn't you say iowa st was going to beat ksu. do you have water in your ears?(rhetorical question) you should get that checked out asap
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: OKclone on October 16, 2012, 10:31:24 PM
no way Auburn fires whatshisnuts two years removed from an NC unless they know that he paid Cam and doesn't think he will be successful at buying the next Cam.

No way.

If the Auburn AD doesn't 100% know about alleged Cam money, that d00d is safer than Pinkel.

I'm almost 100% certain you are wrong.
you seem to be a compulsive liar, didn't you say iowa st was going to beat ksu. do you have water in your ears?(rhetorical question) you should get that checked out asap

You honestly think that Cheezewiz is going to have a job after this year? Hah.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Domino on October 16, 2012, 11:24:23 PM
To think, if only Auburn had hired Turner Gill instead. Chizik may still be FloddAggie HFBC

Of course, this wouldn't effect Iowa State that much, since their current loser of a head coach can only get them to 3 conference victories a year, max.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: OKclone on October 16, 2012, 11:32:46 PM
To think, if only Auburn had hired Turner Gill instead. Chizik may still be FloddAggie HFBC

Of course, this wouldn't effect Iowa State that much, since their current loser of a head coach can only get them to 3 conference victories a year, max.

I'll come back after this year is over  :excited:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Domino on October 16, 2012, 11:34:43 PM
To think, if only Auburn had hired Turner Gill instead. Chizik may still be FloddAggie HFBC

Of course, this wouldn't effect Iowa State that much, since their current loser of a head coach can only get them to 3 conference victories a year, max.

I'll come back after this year is over  :excited:

Of course you will, water flows downhill.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: OKclone on October 16, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
 :flush:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 16, 2012, 11:54:01 PM
I often laugh at the fact that KU didn't want Tuberville even though he was begging them for a job. "Sorry, Tommy. We'd rather have Turner Gill."
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: SwiftCat on October 17, 2012, 01:31:00 AM
I ignored this after the first page and now I don't want to read the rest of it. Someone should make a list of the names that came up. Unless it's just 10 pages of butthurt, then don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Ira Hayes on October 18, 2012, 05:32:21 PM
I just read this and I think I have found our next head coach. 

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/20594928/klein-a-legit-heisman-contender-carrying-kstate-on-broad-bruised-shoulders/rss?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Bill needs to stick around for another 2-3 years as a "mentor".
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: "storm"nut on October 20, 2012, 08:30:38 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/20/sports/ncaafootball/at-kansas-state-bill-snyder-shares-a-bond-with-his-son-sean.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1& (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/20/sports/ncaafootball/at-kansas-state-bill-snyder-shares-a-bond-with-his-son-sean.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&)

Sharing a Family Bond Off and on the Field
Orlin Wagner/Associated Press

LHC Bill Snyder, talking to his team during a timeout, works closely with his son Sean, who is the associate head coach and director of football operations.
By TIM ROHAN
Published: October 19, 2012

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On the rare occasion when LHC Bill Snyder would stop working and be able to spend time with his children Sean, Shannon and Meredith, he would tell them stories about his mother.
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Coach LHC Bill Snyder, 73, and No. 4 Kansas State are unbeaten heading into Saturday’s game against No. 17 West Virginia.
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LHC Bill Snyder with Oklahoma Coach Bob Stoops after a 24-19 victory in Norman on Sept. 22. The Wildcats are 6-0 this season.

How she had raised him herself in their downtown, one-bedroom apartment in St. Joseph, Mo. How she had worked at a department store to be able to send him to college. How she had thrown herself — all 4 feet 9 inches — in front of the door when he tried to leave without permission.

Or how he had broken curfew when his divorced father bought him a convertible for his 16th birthday, and how she had told his father, “Either you come and get the car, or I’m going to drive it in the river.”

Some weekends, he went to see his father three hours away, but he grew to be his mother’s son: accountable, consistent, meticulous. Even obsessive. Every detail mattered. If any little thing was left undone, he came to believe, there would be consequences.

Now 73, Snyder, the patriarchal Kansas State football coach, has his Wildcats (6-0) ranked No. 4, wringing the most out of their talent as they travel to face No. 17 West Virginia on Saturday. It is what he does. Now in his 21st season in Manhattan, Kan., Snyder has rescued perhaps the nation’s worst major-college program, retired, returned and has now done it again. His secret is in the details.

This he taught to his oldest child, Sean. So when Snyder retires again — the decision of when that happens will almost assuredly be his — he will recommend his son as his successor, he says.

But for some time, Sean had longed not to succeed his father, but simply to know him better. Snyder worked 16-hour days as a young coach under Hayden Fry at North Texas. That earned him a job at Iowa when Fry went there in 1979. That pace also earned Snyder a divorce. He had not been around much at home, sometimes waking up the children at night to play with them.

In their home’s narrow hallway, he taught Sean how to carry a football and how to tackle.

Then at Iowa, Snyder mostly saw Sean and his sisters each summer. The first thing he asked about was school. He never yelled, never swore, never raised his voice, but if their grades had slipped, he checked their progress nightly come fall.

Those summers, Sean watched his father. He wondered: Why the act? Why the discipline? Why the work?

A soccer player, Sean joined his high school football team to punt, to make it to Iowa, to answer all of the whys.

“If you want to punt, then how are you going to be good at it?” Snyder asked, making his son plan, strategize and set goals. This was a lesson; Snyder raised his children the way he coached his players. Sean learned to punt on his own and earned a scholarship to Iowa in 1988.

“Coming from a divorced family, to me, to be whole and fill everything out, there was a lot of areas I needed to learn,” Sean said, adding, “I needed to be around him to learn those things and understand a lot of previous years and put it together.”

After Sean’s freshman year, Kansas State interviewed his father for its head coaching position. No Division I team in the sport’s history had lost more games. The Wildcats played “home” games at Oklahoma and Nebraska, where their opponents’ fan bases would buy tickets and generate more revenue.

Steve Miller, then the athletic director, interviewed 18 other candidates, but only Snyder had a patient, long-term plan, and a calm, knowing presence.

He was hired, and in his first meeting with the team, addressing a group of players who had never played in a game Kansas State won, he explained his rules: no “ear screws” — his word for earrings — no foul language, no being late. At one point, a scholarship player stood up and left the room.

Snyder continued. They would wear blazers and ties on trips. They would practice Sundays at 8 a.m., so they should spend their Saturday evenings accordingly. They would act like gentlemen.

Sean joined his father in 1990, after being benched during his sophomore season. He moved with his wife and daughter to Manhattan, about two hours west of Kansas City, but his father made him walk on, because, Snyder said, “I wanted him to grow up and be able to take care of himself.”

By Sean’s senior year, he had earned a scholarship and was an all-American punter. He returned to Kansas State as a part-time assistant coach in 1994. By the time he became the director of football operations in 1996, the whys about his father had been answered, and the Wildcats’ program had been jump-started.

To overcome the losing, to build a powerhouse in the heart of Kansas, Snyder spent uncountable hours studying film. He recruited junior college players and gave opportunities to walk-ons.

“He sort of runs an orphanage,” said Mark Janssen, who co-wrote a book with Snyder. The trend started in 1997 when the athletic Michael Bishop transferred to Kansas State because Snyder let him play quarterback.

In one-on-one film sessions, they watched the same play hundreds of times, Bishop said. This went on for hours until Bishop, who would go on to be a Heisman Trophy finalist, excused himself for a bathroom break. That relentlessness helped the Wildcats win 11 games in six of the next seven seasons.

He bounced ideas off Sean, who handled off-the-field issues — from the budget, to travel, to personnel. Sean shared his father’s nose, lighter hair and now his work ethic.

Snyder said of his son: “I think he’s the only individual, other than myself, that really understands the totality of what the Kansas State program is all about.”

But Sean often made it home for dinner, and sometimes he sneaked out to have lunch with his wife. “In all the good ways, Sean is a miniature Bill,” his sister Shannon said.

Snyder’s teams eventually sputtered, winning four games in 2004 and five in 2005. He retired and for three years he attended his grandchildren’s activities.

The highway from the interstate to campus was named after him. The stadium was called LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium. But Ron Price, Snyder’s replacement, was not LHC Bill Snyder. Details were missed, said Sean, who had stayed with the program.

Imagine Alabama without Bear Bryant, if Alabama won 66 percent of its games with him and less than 36 percent without him. Snyder was rehired in 2009 to fix the program again. He said he came back for the people.

Last season, he promoted Sean to associate head coach.

Snyder jokes that Sean’s contract requires him to bring his children to work. But Snyder’s family —he remarried while at Iowa and had two more children — says he is at ease these days, that he makes time. He says he is not slowing down.

There is much that looks the same. Players run the stadium stairs every Wednesday morning as punishment for missing class. Fifty-seven players on the roster either walked on or came from a junior college. Snyder’s quarterback, Collin Klein, is a dual threat and Heisman contender. Sean’s son, Tate, plays linebacker.

“When we feel like the waters are smooth, and the program is secure, then I’ll get back on to doing some other things in my life,” Snyder said in a phone interview this week. Then, he will recommend Sean as his successor.

“If I were to step down today, I certainly would,” he said, adding, “I think he’d be absolutely fantastic at it, but I wouldn’t encourage him to take the job.

“I’d rather see him live a more complete life than this.”


Your next HC, Sean Snyder  :bill: <-With Sean's head.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: DQ12 on October 20, 2012, 08:33:47 AM
“I’d rather see him live a more complete life than this.”
pretty sad
Title: Re: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Rams on October 20, 2012, 09:20:50 AM
“I’d rather see him live a more complete life than this.”
pretty sad

jeez no crap. sounds like a drug addict that's given up trying to quit. :frown:
Title: Re: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: slobber on October 20, 2012, 09:23:15 AM
“I’d rather see him live a more complete life than this.”
pretty sad

jeez no crap. sounds like a drug addict that's given up trying to quit. :frown:
Yeah, Sean. Don't do it. There is so much more to life.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2012, 09:43:42 AM
Man, that is kinda heart breaking  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 20, 2012, 09:49:54 AM
You know Dimel has to be pissed.  This is public confirmation that he his boss is going to work against him when his boss retires. 
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2012, 09:51:12 AM
You know Dimel has to be pissed.  This is public confirmation that he his boss is going to work against him when his boss retires.

can't be a surprise to him. bet he takes the next offer he gets.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Frankenklein on October 20, 2012, 09:55:40 AM
  Heard on the radio yesterday that Mangino is getting back in the business
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: wes mantooth on October 20, 2012, 11:20:16 AM
Who would stay and coach for Sean?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 20, 2012, 11:30:38 AM
Who would stay and coach for Sean?

This was just my thought.  What decent assistant with any self respect would want to work for a guy who:

A) Has 2 years coaching experience as a ST coach
B) Wouldn't have had a shot in hell for the job without having the father he has
C) Make you work ridiculous hours
D) Pays you a decent wage, but nothing you couldn't get at any other BCS school

(Note: I'm note actually worried about this, but hypothetically...)
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: ben ji on October 20, 2012, 12:14:01 PM
Meh, just enjoy the next 7-10 years of Bill. I dont see him leaving until he wins a natty or his health starts failing....and if he wins a natty i could care less who the next coach is.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: wetwillie on October 20, 2012, 12:14:47 PM
Meh, just enjoy the next 7-10 years of Bill. I dont see him leaving until he wins a natty or his health starts failing....and if he wins a natty i could care less who the next coach is.


Boy your head is firmly buried in the sand.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: ben ji on October 20, 2012, 12:24:05 PM
Meh, just enjoy the next 7-10 years of Bill. I dont see him leaving until he wins a natty or his health starts failing....and if he wins a natty i could care less who the next coach is.


Boy your head is firmly buried in the sand.

Yeah dont see him leaving anytime soon

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Games meant a reminder that Snyder no longer had control, and he doesn’t like not having control. Sharon Snyder’s memory of her husband on fall Saturdays is a man standing in a stadium suite, arms folded, stern look on his face and only speaking when asked a question — and even then only a few words.

“It hurt him to not be involved,” Sharon says. “…You’re giving up part of your identity.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/19/3874894/bill-snyder-saved-a-town-and-a.html#storylink=omni_popular#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 20, 2012, 12:25:16 PM
Meh, just enjoy the next 7-10 years of Bill. I dont see him leaving until he wins a natty or his health starts failing....and if he wins a natty i could care less who the next coach is.


Boy your head is firmly buried in the sand.

Yeah dont see him leaving anytime soon

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Games meant a reminder that Snyder no longer had control, and he doesn’t like not having control. Sharon Snyder’s memory of her husband on fall Saturdays is a man standing in a stadium suite, arms folded, stern look on his face and only speaking when asked a question — and even then only a few words.

“It hurt him to not be involved,” Sharon says. “…You’re giving up part of your identity.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/19/3874894/bill-snyder-saved-a-town-and-a.html#storylink=omni_popular#storylink=cpy

Yeah, after that quote I'm pretty convinced we can keep this thread going for a while.  Probs til about 2015
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: wetwillie on October 20, 2012, 12:29:53 PM
Meh, just enjoy the next 7-10 years of Bill. I dont see him leaving until he wins a natty or his health starts failing....and if he wins a natty i could care less who the next coach is.


Boy your head is firmly buried in the sand.

Yeah dont see him leaving anytime soon

Quote
Games meant a reminder that Snyder no longer had control, and he doesn’t like not having control. Sharon Snyder’s memory of her husband on fall Saturdays is a man standing in a stadium suite, arms folded, stern look on his face and only speaking when asked a question — and even then only a few words.

“It hurt him to not be involved,” Sharon says. “…You’re giving up part of your identity.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/19/3874894/bill-snyder-saved-a-town-and-a.html#storylink=omni_popular#storylink=cpy

Lol he will more worried about controlling his own bowels in 7 years.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Cire on October 20, 2012, 12:31:58 PM
 Snyder said of his son: “I think he’s the only individual, other than myself, that really understands the totality of what the Kansas State program is all about.”

:(
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 20, 2012, 12:35:14 PM
Snyder said of his son: “I think he’s the only individual, other than myself, that really understands the totality of what the Kansas State program is all about.”

:(

So does that mean the brain transplant has already been started?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: wetwillie on November 10, 2012, 05:17:13 PM
Would you take this mystery coach as our next HC

Age 34
Current position: OC for BCS team in major power conference(not big east)
Will recruit the crap out of the state of texas
Extremely good looking and smelling
Former Pro QB
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: sys on November 10, 2012, 05:18:45 PM
sean has earned the right.  we have to give him a fair chance.
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Gooch on November 10, 2012, 05:19:53 PM
Would you take this mystery coach as our next HC

Age 34
Current position: OC for BCS team in major power conference(not big east)
Will recruit the crap out of the state of texas
Extremely good looking and smelling
Former Pro QB

Kingsberry
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: wetwillie on November 10, 2012, 05:22:46 PM
Would you take this mystery coach as our next HC

Age 34
Current position: OC for BCS team in major power conference(not big east)
Will recruit the crap out of the state of texas
Extremely good looking and smelling
Former Pro QB

Kingsberry

So that's a no?
Title: Re: Football Coach Search Master Thread
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on November 10, 2012, 05:31:11 PM
Why are we doubting the Legend himself? obviously he knows Sean better than we do. If Bill believes Sean is the best man for the job then I'd rather have that than anyone Currie would hire.