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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: wetwillie on September 24, 2012, 11:08:45 PM
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Bill thinks highly of himself, he knows his time is drawing near. Calm the waters my ass. I sense this heightened urgency in him that he knows he has one last shot at putting the icing on his cake. It was never about rebuilding the program, it's a quest for the ultimate closure, a national title. Best offense in a decade, maybe ever. The effort he puts into this season may be the beginning of his end. To think this could be ended by rhoads, briles, gundy or holgerson is folly. Bill wants Mack and then Saban to cement his legacy.
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intense
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Bill retired. Did the retirement things retired people do. Got bored. Realized he needed a hobby.
You may take this seriously, but for Bill this is hobby like gardening. Screw your waters. Let the man grow some radishes.
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:flush:
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:ohno:
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Bill isn't retiring with #life primed to run this offense from 2013-2015
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Thats a lot of hyperbole in one post.
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I see a pretty damn good O Line and I don't see a single SR next to any of their names.
This is not a one year deal.
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I see a pretty damn good O Line and I don't see a single SR next to any of their names.
This is not a one year deal.
now do the defense. just saying.
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Bill thinks highly of himself, he knows his time is drawing near. Calm the waters my ass. I sense this heightened urgency in him that he knows he has one last shot at putting the icing on his cake. It was never about rebuilding the program, it's a quest for the ultimate closure, a national title. Best offense in a decade, maybe ever. The effort he puts into this season may be the beginning of his end. To think this could be ended by rhoads, briles, gundy or holgerson is folly. Bill wants Mack and then Saban to cement his legacy.
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:popcorn:
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What if his ULTIMATE CLOSURE is 3 national titles and 2 heisman winners?
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Bill thinks highly of himself, he knows his time is drawing near. Calm the waters my ass. I sense this heightened urgency in him that he knows he has one last shot at putting the icing on his cake. It was never about rebuilding the program, it's a quest for the ultimate closure, a national title. Best offense in a decade, maybe ever. The effort he puts into this season may be the beginning of his end. To think this could be ended by rhoads, briles, gundy or holgerson is folly. Bill wants Mack and then Saban to cement his legacy.
honestly wouldn't be surprised if true
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Bill thinks highly of himself, he knows his time is drawing near. Calm the waters my ass. I sense this heightened urgency in him that he knows he has one last shot at putting the icing on his cake. It was never about rebuilding the program, it's a quest for the ultimate closure, a national title. Best offense in a decade, maybe ever. The effort he puts into this season may be the beginning of his end. To think this could be ended by rhoads, briles, gundy or holgerson is folly. Bill wants Mack and then Saban to cement his legacy.
:jerk:
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i mean, yeah, op is very :dubious:
but can you imagine the movie that would come out of this if it was true :sdeek:
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Bill thinks highly of himself, he knows his time is drawing near. Calm the waters my ass. I sense this heightened urgency in him that he knows he has one last shot at putting the icing on his cake. It was never about rebuilding the program, it's a quest for the ultimate closure, a national title. Best offense in a decade, maybe ever. The effort he puts into this season may be the beginning of his end. To think this could be ended by rhoads, briles, gundy or holgerson is folly. Bill wants Mack and then Saban to cement his legacy.
Rofl. Just awful.
No, Bill hated seeing what he put his legacy on just be destroyed by Ron Prince. His return wasn't anything about a quest.
2002 and 2003 were better (in your last decade). 97, 98, 99 and 2000 were better. The entire offenses and defenses we're better those years, sometimes much better.
This team has an incredible amount of resolve though that those teams didn't have to this level.
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Bill thinks highly of himself, he knows his time is drawing near. Calm the waters my ass. I sense this heightened urgency in him that he knows he has one last shot at putting the icing on his cake. It was never about rebuilding the program, it's a quest for the ultimate closure, a national title. Best offense in a decade, maybe ever. The effort he puts into this season may be the beginning of his end. To think this could be ended by rhoads, briles, gundy or holgerson is folly. Bill wants Mack and then Saban to cement his legacy.
Rofl. Just awful.
No, Bill hated seeing what he put his legacy on just be destroyed by Ron Prince. His return wasn't anything about a quest.
2002 and 2003 were better (in your last decade). 97, 98, 99 and 2000 were better. The entire offenses and defenses we're better those years, sometimes much better.
This team has an incredible amount of resolve though that those teams didn't have to this level.
You'll be surprised how the NFL talent on this team compares to the talent on the teams you mentioned.
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Bucket list
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This team has an incredible amount of resolve though that those teams didn't have to this level.
based on what, exactly?
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I have been told from a legitimate source that when Snyder came back in 2009, he said he wanted to win the NC in 2012.
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I have been told from a legitimate source that when Snyder came back in 2009, he said he wanted to win the NC in 2012.
Sooooooooo he never wanted to win a NC any of the other years??????
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Bill isn't going to retire any time soon with a nucleus of offensive lineman, receivers, and Sams returning over the next few years.
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This team has an incredible amount of resolve though that those teams didn't have to this level.
based on what, exactly?
-Overall Team IQ
-Low penalty totals
-Less amount of stupid mistakes
-Winning based on heart, not talent
Just to name a few. This team does not have the overall talent that the teams of the late 90's had. Not even close in my opinion. This team plays much better as an overall team though and has a sense of collective cohesion that is off the charts. It starts with Klein and him being a rough ridin' unbelievable Leader and ends with Arthur Brown being the same on Defense.
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It's pretty effing stupid to try to guess what his motivation is, since no one ever knows what the hell he is thinking. That being said I still think the the true reason he came back was to win a NC. You just can't be as consumed with football, as he is, and not care about winning a NC more than anything. I bet after he passes, we will hear all sorts of stories from his close family and friends about just how much of his life was consumed by this.
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-Winning based on heart, not talent
What does this mean?
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Bill isn't going to retire any time soon with a nucleus of offensive lineman, receivers, and Sams returning over the next few years.
He'll coach until he's 80.
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-Winning based on heart, not talent
What does this mean?
Quite simply Rob, we are beating teams based on wanting it more, not by our talent.
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That is rough ridin' stupid, no offense. These players aren't going to make it to the NFL based on their "want to."
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yeah, that's bullshit. we are an extremely talented team.
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yeah, that's bullshit. we are an extremely talented team.
this...our defense is almost as fast as the dod teams. Almost should anger them up a bit for UK
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That is rough ridin' stupid, no offense. These players aren't going to make it to the NFL based on their "want to."
I'm not saying they aren't talented at all. I'm simply saying the DOD teams of '97-2000 were extremely talented. No way players like Childs, Sua, Chapman and Milo play on those teams.
Again, our team is very talented (Especially Offensively). I guess our Defense is what I'm focusing on.
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That is rough ridin' stupid, no offense. These players aren't going to make it to the NFL based on their "want to."
I'm not saying they aren't talented at all. I'm simply saying the DOD teams of '97-2000 were extremely talented. No way players like Childs, Sua, Chapman and Milo play on those teams.
Again, our team is very talented (Especially Offensively). I guess our Defense is what I'm focusing on.
Probably true, but I would argue that Sua has been far better than expected, and Milo has been good at least in run support.
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Wasn't there some CatMatt video about schools with new "experimental" hires failing and rehiring a new coach who won an NC in their third year?... :horrorsurprise:
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That is rough ridin' stupid, no offense. These players aren't going to make it to the NFL based on their "want to."
I'm not saying they aren't talented at all. I'm simply saying the DOD teams of '97-2000 were extremely talented. No way players like Childs, Sua, Chapman and Milo play on those teams.
Again, our team is very talented (Especially Offensively). I guess our Defense is what I'm focusing on.
Fair enough. But today's players don't get the benefit of steroids like the older ones.
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That is rough ridin' stupid, no offense. These players aren't going to make it to the NFL based on their "want to."
I'm not saying they aren't talented at all. I'm simply saying the DOD teams of '97-2000 were extremely talented. No way players like Childs, Sua, Chapman and Milo play on those teams.
Again, our team is very talented (Especially Offensively). I guess our Defense is what I'm focusing on.
Fair enough. But today's players don't get the benefit of steroids like the older ones.
They should though.
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Name a starter on the 98 defense that didn't play in the NFL. IIRC, there is only one, Travis Ochs. Almost the same on offense (2 I believe). Gramatica kicking, Garcia punting.
JFC, 2012 is a good team, but in terms or talent, nowhere near that level.
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Name a starter on the 98 defense that didn't play in the NFL. IIRC, there is only one, Travis Ochs. Almost the same on offense (2 I believe). Gramatica kicking, Garcia punting.
JFC, 2012 is a good team, but in terms or talent, nowhere near that level.
I must have missed where someone claimed it was
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Name a starter on the 98 defense that didn't play in the NFL. IIRC, there is only one, Travis Ochs. Almost the same on offense (2 I believe). Gramatica kicking, Garcia punting.
JFC, 2012 is a good team, but in terms or talent, nowhere near that level.
A lot of those guys on the '98 team would not be good enough to play in the NFL today, though. That was 14 years ago.
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You guys are making me sad about Saint Louis all over again. :cry:
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Name a starter on the 98 defense that didn't play in the NFL. IIRC, there is only one, Travis Ochs. Almost the same on offense (2 I believe). Gramatica kicking, Garcia punting.
JFC, 2012 is a good team, but in terms or talent, nowhere near that level.
A lot of those guys on the '98 team would not be good enough to play in the NFL today, though. That was 14 years ago.
Yes, it has been clearly pointed out that NBA greats from 14 years ago would not even make a team in 2012. NFL is probably just like that.
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Name a starter on the 98 defense that didn't play in the NFL. IIRC, there is only one, Travis Ochs. Almost the same on offense (2 I believe). Gramatica kicking, Garcia punting.
JFC, 2012 is a good team, but in terms or talent, nowhere near that level.
A lot of those guys on the '98 team would not be good enough to play in the NFL today, though. That was 14 years ago.
Yeah, not a lot of 37 year olds breaking into the NFL.
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Name a starter on the 98 defense that didn't play in the NFL. IIRC, there is only one, Travis Ochs. Almost the same on offense (2 I believe). Gramatica kicking, Garcia punting.
JFC, 2012 is a good team, but in terms or talent, nowhere near that level.
A lot of those guys on the '98 team would not be good enough to play in the NFL today, though. That was 14 years ago.
Yeah, not a lot of 37 year olds breaking into the NFL.
OSU Cowboys just said, WHAT NOW?
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That is rough ridin' stupid, no offense. These players aren't going to make it to the NFL based on their "want to."
I'm not saying they aren't talented at all. I'm simply saying the DOD teams of '97-2000 were extremely talented. No way players like Childs, Sua, Chapman and Milo play on those teams.
Again, our team is very talented (Especially Offensively). I guess our Defense is what I'm focusing on.
Chapman looked like are best conner in the OU game. :dunno: Brings a physicality Malone can't bring