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Title: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Winters on September 13, 2012, 04:12:41 PM
I am actually looking at getting a .223 for sport. I love to shoot. Walmart carries two really good brands, Sig Sauer and Bushmaster.
 
I have heard REALLY good things about the bushmaster AR, but I was curious as to anyones thoughts on here. Any prior military who have had a lot of experience with this particular style of weapon?
 
Thanks for any information. I've done some google homework, but I'd take you guys as trustworthy sources on certain things.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: AppleJack on September 13, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
When I was about 12 my brother in law took my to a shooting range. I have never shot a gun before. Anyways, he handed me a 30 aut 6 with a scope. I lined up, peered down the scope, BOOM! No idea where the bullet went. It knocked off my shoulder and the scope busted the bridge of my nose. Blood was going all over the place and I was waving the gun around and people started yelling at me to set the gun down. We were asked to leave. Haven't shot a gun since. HTH Winters!
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: puniraptor on September 13, 2012, 04:20:45 PM
think of how many aks you could buy for the same price
Title: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: steve dave on September 13, 2012, 04:21:35 PM
Don't kill yourself or any other living thing wintz!
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: puniraptor on September 13, 2012, 04:22:19 PM
You aren't considering withdrawing from any PhD programs, are you?
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Winters on September 13, 2012, 04:41:59 PM
Don't kill yourself or any other living thing wintz!
I won't! 
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Trim on September 13, 2012, 04:43:56 PM
Obvious question - what will you be using this rifle for aside from protection?
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 13, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
They are all built to the same military specs; they are all the same.  Buy the cheapest.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Winters on September 13, 2012, 04:47:58 PM
Obvious question - what will you be using this rifle for aside from protection?
Bears.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Trim on September 13, 2012, 04:49:47 PM
Obvious question - what will you be using this rifle for aside from protection?
Bears.

You're gonna want something that can also handle stray wild boars.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Winters on September 13, 2012, 04:55:40 PM
Obvious question - what will you be using this rifle for aside from protection?
Bears.

You're gonna want something that can also handle stray wild boars.
That is a solid point. I'll get a little something something extra for that.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: ew2x4 on September 13, 2012, 05:03:27 PM
If you're looking to take down bears and or boars, I highly recommend upping your cartridge to a .308. Look into an FN FAL or an M1A1
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: ew2x4 on September 13, 2012, 05:05:40 PM
I also recommend a Judge for a side arm. It looks like a revolver, but it is actually a shotgun!
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: MadCat on September 13, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
As far as assault rifles go, I have only fired an SKS.  It could probably shoot through a few bears.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: star seed 7 on September 13, 2012, 05:51:46 PM
winters is getting scary lately  :ohno:
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: steve dave on September 13, 2012, 06:24:54 PM
wintz, maybe like laser tag?
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: j-von on September 13, 2012, 06:27:22 PM
I've got lots, including a 16" bushmaster that I'd consider selling.

Some of the biggest questions are what you're planning to shoot, whether you'd rather use iron sights or if you plan to buy a scope, what barrel length you want (probably either 16 or 20 depending on its use), what's your budget.  You can then move into what, if any attachments and extras you're looking for.

Don't limit yourself to wal-mart, just order it online and have it sent to american cash exchange on fort riley blvd.  The fee will be about $20.  If you have questions just ask, I've used most of what's out there for AR's.  Once I know your budget and what you're wanting to use it for I could try to point you to a good deal.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: steve dave on September 13, 2012, 06:40:53 PM
j-von, just how many people are you planning to kill when you go out?
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: pissclams on September 13, 2012, 06:52:14 PM
why do i get the feeling that winters will have blown through his entire 1st year student loan check by Sept 20th?
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: j-von on September 13, 2012, 07:10:34 PM
j-von, just how many people are you planning to kill when you go out?

I've got an insane amount of guns, but strangely enough I've never shot an animal even though I come from a family that loves to hunt.  I'll go with them, just never had the urge to kill something so I'm probably not the one you have to worry about. 

Then again I did get a carry permit so maybe I just love animals and hate people  :dunno:
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Winters on September 13, 2012, 07:12:07 PM
wintz, maybe like laser tag?
Yeah!
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Winters on September 13, 2012, 07:12:26 PM
why do i get the feeling that winters will have blown through his entire 1st year student loan check by Sept 20th?
Gotta live that #life
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: steve dave on September 13, 2012, 07:13:22 PM
jvon, how about you just give wintz one with the safety on and no bulletts and you can each feel deadly or whatever and everyone parties!  :dance:
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: doom on September 13, 2012, 07:25:36 PM
Winters, how many people do you currently have in your militia?
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Winters on September 13, 2012, 07:32:53 PM
Winters, how many people do you currently have in your militia?
That is not to be disclosed at the moment.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: doom on September 13, 2012, 07:44:02 PM
also what was the price diff, and what else are you concerned about?
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: MadCat on September 13, 2012, 08:53:41 PM
Winters, how many people do you currently have in your militia?
I think the king's army would be considered regulars, not militia.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: jtksu on September 13, 2012, 09:57:22 PM
If I were you, I would also purchase a ton of beer at Walmart when you purchase the gun.  I figure that would lend an air of civility. 
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: ednksu on September 13, 2012, 10:10:51 PM
some good info here and some bad info here

Walmart for beer? gmafb, isn't that crap only 3.2!

J-Von has some great points to consider.  They are not all made the same.

 Figure out the budget, what you want to shoot.  If you are looking for the look and feel of the AR platform but don't want to spend as much, you might consider an AR in 22 form. 
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: jtksu on September 13, 2012, 10:13:42 PM
Kinda weird how you balk at 3.2 beer but then recommend a .22 AR.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Bloodfart on September 13, 2012, 10:30:17 PM
On my latest trip to the city I found that Wal-mart is carrying the "Judge" in rifle form. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Rossi-Circuit-Judge-Gold-Trigger/17200849

Food for thought. 

Otherwise get an SKS or AK for best bang for buck.   :)
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Unruly on September 14, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
On my latest trip to the city I found that Wal-mart is carrying the "Judge" in rifle form. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Rossi-Circuit-Judge-Gold-Trigger/17200849

Food for thought. 

Otherwise get an SKS or AK for best bang for buck.   :)


This.

I love my AK and it is cheap(relative term) to shoot.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: steve dave on September 14, 2012, 11:25:07 AM
how many men have you guys killed, like, over a million?
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: ew2x4 on September 14, 2012, 11:34:00 AM
how many men have you guys killed, like, over a million?

In Call of Duty.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 14, 2012, 11:51:04 AM
Are you guys just re-posting from GPC?
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Bloodfart on September 14, 2012, 12:12:03 PM
I work with a guy that has like 5 different versions of AKs plus several duplicates.  He just keeps buying these kits and assembling them for fun.  He says "I'm going to sell them" but never does.   :sdeek:
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: MadCat on September 14, 2012, 12:23:27 PM
I work with a guy that has like 5 different versions of AKs plus several duplicates.  He just keeps buying these kits and assembling them for fun.  He says "I'm going to sell them" but never does.   :sdeek:

I'd go to his house when the zombies come.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: the_ugly_clown on September 14, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
get piston driven not gas.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Gooch on September 14, 2012, 05:45:51 PM
I have around $1500 in mine. Half of that is in my EO Tech optic though. Wyndam Weaponry is a good affordable option.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: steve dave on September 14, 2012, 05:46:41 PM
anyone have one of those terminator II/predator guns that spins around with different barrels for some reason?  seems like you all only have pud guns.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: eastcat on September 16, 2012, 01:15:39 AM
I have a Del-ton and Bushmaster.

If You're on a budget get an AK in 5.45 with 3433498234-23480937283057208390234823904823=0483240 rounds of ammo for $500 from aim surplus.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: jtksu on September 16, 2012, 10:09:52 AM
I feel like thats a lot of ammo. 
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: ednksu on September 16, 2012, 10:40:57 AM
Kinda weird how you balk at 3.2 beer but then recommend a .22 AR.
know your objectives and pursue your purpose with least amount of effort possible
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: doom on September 16, 2012, 11:02:10 AM
On my latest trip to the city I found that Wal-mart is carrying the "Judge" in rifle form. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Rossi-Circuit-Judge-Gold-Trigger/17200849

Food for thought. 

Otherwise get an SKS or AK for best bang for buck.   :)


This.

I love my AK and it is cheap(relative term) to shoot.

Yeah, not a bad call.  Also look at a cz-58, similar to ak, same bullet, different system.  You can get some for $400-550, newer ones are similar in price to an AR-15. 

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deactivated-guns.co.uk%2Fimages%2FCZ58%25202%2FCZ58-16.jpg&hash=443dbf0bed1f654ccc8ed3f7948577079e19333a)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.czechpoint-usa.com%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2Fvz58_005%2Fvz58_005_01.jpg&hash=922674b6ce72bfd900791841b4ecd488a5319ec6)

Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: scottwildcat on September 16, 2012, 01:06:54 PM
uhh...how come this is the first time i'm hearing about this Winters...I kinda live with you and well umm...i'm scared of you having guns...
Title: Re: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: 8manpick on September 16, 2012, 01:20:28 PM
uhh...how come this is the first time i'm hearing about this Winters...I kinda live with you and well umm...i'm scared of you having guns...
Pussy
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Frankenklein on September 16, 2012, 05:38:33 PM
uhh...how come this is the first time i'm hearing about this Winters...I kinda live with you and well umm...i'm scared of you having guns...
Umm sounds like maybe he's scared of you and feels he needs protection.I say you up the ante right now and have a Barret 50 cal sitting on the coffee table when Winters comes walking in the door carrying a .22 and a case of 3.2 beer.O yea and maybe have a bullet proof vest on and be slamming down some moonshine.
Title: Re: Assualt rifle question!
Post by: Trim on September 16, 2012, 05:48:04 PM
kstatemask is mumped.