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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Dugout DickStone on September 10, 2012, 09:28:47 PM
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Sean, HCIW
I think 2 dr. Peps with a top 25 cruit class or 1 MNC
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A proven ability to coach and stuff. Like if his dad is here for 5 more years I'd like to see Sean's unit (ST or whatever it may be) ranked in the top 3 of the league each year.
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Sean, HCIW
I think 2 dr. Peps with a top 25 cruit class or 1 MNC
A heroin IV drip.
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1 MNC and nothing less. I don't have anything against Sean, other than that he has done absolutely nothing to qualify himself for this position. Also, if we are going to promote from within, hiring anybody but Dimel would just be wrong.
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The choice of not having my family murdered in front of me by Colombian or ms13 drug lords
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A proven ability to coach and stuff. Like if his dad is here for 5 more years I'd like to see Sean's unit (ST or whatever it may be) ranked in the top 3 of the league each year.
Just remember, the crazy eyed freak special teams coach under Prince was really good until he became the DC. :sdeek:
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Bill's brain being implanted in Sean's body
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Bill's brain being implanted in Sean's body
What if it basically is?
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Bill's brain being implanted in Sean's body
What if it basically is?
Then, ISWT
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Bill's brain being implanted in Sean's body
What if it basically is?
I will accept nothing but the original Bill brain. Imagine Bill's brain as a hermit crab. When his body (shell) fails him, he moves onto a new one. When Sean's body (shell) breaks down, Tate can be the new host.
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Bill's brain being implanted in Sean's body
What if it basically is?
Stop it LSOC. That's not nice. And besides, it still wouldn't be the same. Free will and whatnot. :sdeek:
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Sean has never shown any of the diligence, hard work, intelligence, or competitive fire of his old man.
2 Dr. Peps or 1 MNC and I'll sit quietly through 3 bad years of Sean.
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2 Dr. Peppers AND a MNC.
If you're not requiring a bare minimum of a MNC for this then you are wrong.
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I'm just saying, what if is just a ton like his old man?
I don't think he is, but what if?
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I'm just saying, what if is just a ton like his old man?
I don't think he is, but what if?
What if I had a pet unicorn who could correctly guess lottery numbers and pooped skittles? It would be great, but its never going to happen.
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I'm just saying, what if is just a ton like his old man?
I don't think he is, but what if?
If he is, the new KU line will be "Yeah, well lets see you win without Sean"
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I'm just saying, what if is just a ton like his old man?
I don't think he is, but what if?
If he is, the new KU line will be "Yeah, well lets see you win without Sean"
No doubt. It would be such a mind eff.
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I'm just saying, what if is just a ton like his old man?
I don't think he is, but what if?
If he is, the new KU line will be "Yeah, well lets see you win without Sean"
Just think, we'd get to hear it for the next 25-30 years. :dunno:
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If Sean is like his dad then let Iowa or some other school hire him, and we'll pick him up once he's legit.
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Great thread. This reminds me, what if this is Bill's swan song? The dream that reignited his imagination and passion? What if this is 1998 all over again with Sean awaiting us at the end of the tunnel?
I mean Sams, right?
With the Snyder family just flanking #life with :comeatme:
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I'd be #teamburnitdown, until he proved himself as a winner. Just substitute unqualified nepotism for oscar's previously proven failure and it is basically the same.
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Great thread. This reminds me, what if this is Bill's swan song? The dream that reignited his imagination and passion? What if this is 1998 all over again with Sean awaiting us at the end of the tunnel?
I mean Sams, right?
With the Snyder family just flanking #life with :comeatme:
Bill is not retiring with #life waiting in the wings. Just imagine him running behind our veteran offensive line next year, sharing the backfield with Hubes and Tyler Lockett continuing to be fast as eff. It's going to take a sudden, severe health issue for LHOFHCBS to retire with that offense lined up for 2013.
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Great thread. This reminds me, what if this is Bill's swan song? The dream that reignited his imagination and passion? What if this is 1998 all over again with Sean awaiting us at the end of the tunnel?
I mean Sams, right?
With the Snyder family just flanking #life with :comeatme:
Bill is not retiring with #life waiting in the wings. Just imagine him running behind our veteran offensive line next year, sharing the backfield with Hubes and Tyler Lockett continuing to be fast as eff. It's going to take a sudden, severe health issue for LHOFHCBS to retire with that offense lined up for 2013.
Yeah, I mean but..... :comeatme: #life :comeatme:
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I'm not married to this post. BUT
Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder, and it's established that the man is literally one of the best coaches in the history of college football, why not have some one who he's been grooming, who he wants to be the next coach?
We were all very gungho about having Gottleib even though he didn't have any experience.
It's definitely a risk and Sean is definitely unproven, but I bet few, if any, people on Earth have learned more football from Bill than Sean.
What's the worst that could happen? We toss him to the curb after three years, just like we would've Gottleib.
What's the best that could happen?: he's Bill reincarnate.
Seems like it's maybe a risk worth taking if you ask me.
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I'm not married to this post. BUT
Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder, and it's established that the man is literally one of the best coaches in the history of college football, why not have some one who he's been grooming, who he wants to be the next coach?
We were all very gungho about having Gottleib even though he didn't have any experience.
It's definitely a risk and Sean is definitely unproven, but I bet few, if any, people on Earth have learned more football from Bill than Sean.
What's the worst that could happen? We toss him to the curb after three years, just like we would've Gottleib.
What's the best that could happen?: he's Bill reincarnate.
Seems like it's maybe a risk worth taking if you ask me.
Well, except for the fact that this has been tried before and it pretty much never works out under the conditions in place here.
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Sean, HCIW
I think 2 dr. Peps with a top 25 cruit class or 1 MNC
Two more seasons and you can drop the M. If we win a national championship I wouldn't give a crap if Stan Parrish came back as the next head coach after OBz
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Well, except for the fact that this has been tried before and it pretty much never works out under the conditions in place here.
A lot of things have been tried before that sometimes don't work but sometimes work spectacularly.
FWIW, this is the first time I've ever actually entertained the idea.
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I'm not married to this post. BUT
Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder, and it's established that the man is literally one of the best coaches in the history of college football, why not have some one who he's been grooming, who he wants to be the next coach?
We were all very gungho about having Gottleib even though he didn't have any experience.
It's definitely a risk and Sean is definitely unproven, but I bet few, if any, people on Earth have learned more football from Bill than Sean.
What's the worst that could happen? We toss him to the curb after three years, just like we would've Gottleib.
What's the best that could happen?: he's Bill reincarnate.
Seems like it's maybe a risk worth taking if you ask me.
Was just about to say something like this. goEMAW was completely wrong about Snyder, as shown by last year. Egos were crushed, but we all loved it. Risky move with a lot of upside. It's something we should consider but not necessarily do.
Well, except for the fact that this has been tried before and it pretty much never works out under the conditions in place here.
This is true as well
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For every Dr. Pepper from this point forward = .667 of a season of dgaf
For every BCS Bowl game win from this point forward = .667 of a season dgaf
a Natty = 4 years of dgaf and lots of :dance:
seeing that none of that is going to happen #teamburnitdown
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Currie would never hire him
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Currie would never hire him
Bill might be here longer than Currie. Also, we've all seen who Currie would hire, and that was worse than hiring Sean would be.
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I'm not married to this post. BUT
Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder, and it's established that the man is literally one of the best coaches in the history of college football, why not have some one who he's been grooming, who he wants to be the next coach?
We were all very gungho about having Gottleib even though he didn't have any experience.
It's definitely a risk and Sean is definitely unproven, but I bet few, if any, people on Earth have learned more football from Bill than Sean.
What's the worst that could happen? We toss him to the curb after three years, just like we would've Gottleib.
What's the best that could happen?: he's Bill reincarnate.
Seems like it's maybe a risk worth taking if you ask me.
Was just about to say something like this. goEMAW was completely wrong about Snyder, as shown by last year. Egos were crushed, but we all loved it. Risky move with a lot of upside. It's something we should consider but not necessarily do.
Well, except for the fact that this has been tried before and it pretty much never works out under the conditions in place here.
This is true as well
very different
Basketball the right coach is the coach that brings in the best players, the system/program/culture isn't nearly as important in football. Football is much more of a chess game. Gottleib was more of an acceptable risk because although he was inexperienced, it seems like he could have the tools needed to be a good basketball coach. Same with Frank, his HC experience was quite limited but he seemed to have the proper tools to be a successful head coach. Being am elite football head coach seems like it is much more involved than being an elite basketball coach.
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Currie would never hire him
Bill might be here longer than Currie. Also, we've all seen who Currie would hire, and that was worse than hiring Sean would be.
Lets say he is here and he hires Sean. Then lets say Sean completely bombs as a head coach. Currie is probably never getting a better job.
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very different
Basketball the right coach is the coach that brings in the best players, the system/program/culture isn't nearly as important in football. Football is much more of a chess game. Gottleib was more of an acceptable risk because although he was inexperienced, it seems like he could have the tools needed to be a good basketball coach. Same with Frank, his HC experience was quite limited but he seemed to have the proper tools to be a successful head coach. Being am elite football head coach seems like it is much more involved than being an elite basketball coach.
Yeah, you're probably right.
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Currie would never hire him
Bill might be here longer than Currie. Also, we've all seen who Currie would hire, and that was worse than hiring Sean would be.
Lets say he is here and he hires Sean. Then lets say Sean completely bombs as a head coach. Currie is probably never getting a better job.
I agree that Currie is never hiring Sean.
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Well, except for the fact that this has been tried before and it pretty much never works out under the conditions in place here.
A lot of things have been tried before that sometimes don't work but sometimes work spectacularly.
FWIW, this is the first time I've ever actually entertained the idea.
No, dlew. Things that are shown to not work, tend to not work.
Let's go through some coaching nepotism case studies. Think critically, which of these profiles inspires confidence from you in the ability of the son to do some coaching?:
Basketball-
Eddie Sutton/Sean Sutton
Son's previous HC None
Non Nepotistic Experience 1 year assistant @ Mississippi
Bobby Knight/Pat Knight
Son's previous HC 1998 Wisconsin Blast/Columbus Cagerz (IBA)
Non Nepotistic Experience none other than above
Football
Bobby Bowden/Terry Bowden (never took over FSU program)
Son's previous HC Salem, Samford, Auburn (rough equivalent program to FSU), N. Alabama, Akron (current)
Non Nepotistic Experience extensive
NFL
Mike Shanahan
Son's previous HC none
Non Nepotistic Experience UCLA (GA), Tampa Bay (quality control), Houston Texans (WR coach, QB coach, OC)
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I ALREADY TOLD MIR THAT HE WAS PROBABLY RIGHT. SHEESH.
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I ALREADY TOLD MIR THAT HE WAS PROBABLY RIGHT. SHEESH.
7 posts had been posted! Mine took time!
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Old ass football coaches who come out of retirement to try and lead a team were proven failures as well until last season happened. I don't want Sean, but if Bill wins a national championship, I'm cool with him naming his replacement.
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Currie would never hire him
Bill might be here longer than Currie. Also, we've all seen who Currie would hire, and that was worse than hiring Sean would be.
Lets say he is here and he hires Sean. Then lets say Sean completely bombs as a head coach. Currie is probably never getting a better job.
I agree that Currie is never hiring Sean.
Currie isn't hiring Sean, but Bill isn't going anywhere until Tate is graduating.
My guess is that if Bill can't get Sean hired, and I don't think any self-respecting AD would even entertain the thought, he'll push for Dimel to get the gig so his guys can stay at KSU.
I think most folks could stomach that. As long as the foundation is in place, I think we could tolerate the KSU version of Frank Solich (with similar results on a sliding scale).
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Old ass football coaches who come out of retirement to try and lead a team were proven failures as well until last season happened. I don't want Sean, but if Bill wins a national championship, I'm cool with him naming his replacement.
Didn't that guy at Nevada do it? They did alright.
And, yeah, if Bill wins a Natty, he can name that Cotton Bowl windbreaker HCIW for all I care.
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Currie would never hire him
Bill might be here longer than Currie. Also, we've all seen who Currie would hire, and that was worse than hiring Sean would be.
Lets say he is here and he hires Sean. Then lets say Sean completely bombs as a head coach. Currie is probably never getting a better job.
I agree that Currie is never hiring Sean.
Currie isn't hiring Sean, but Bill isn't going anywhere until Tate is graduating.
My guess is that if Bill can't get Sean hired, and I don't think any self-respecting AD would even entertain the thought, he'll push for Dimel to get the gig so his guys can stay at KSU.
I think most folks could stomach that. As long as the foundation is in place, I think we could tolerate the KSU version of Frank Solich (with similar results on a sliding scale).
I would prefer the Frank Solich version of Frank Solich. Call me crazy.
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Old ass football coaches who come out of retirement to try and lead a team were proven failures as well until last season happened. I don't want Sean, but if Bill wins a national championship, I'm cool with him naming his replacement.
Didn't that guy at Nevada do it? They did alright.
And, yeah, if Bill wins a Natty, he can name that Cotton Bowl windbreaker HCIW for all I care.
I honestly have no idea who coaches at Nevada. I was thinking of Bill Walsh and Lou Holtz.
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Old ass football coaches who come out of retirement to try and lead a team were proven failures as well until last season happened. I don't want Sean, but if Bill wins a national championship, I'm cool with him naming his replacement.
Didn't that guy at Nevada do it? They did alright.
And, yeah, if Bill wins a Natty, he can name that Cotton Bowl windbreaker HCIW for all I care.
I honestly have no idea who coaches at Nevada. I was thinking of Bill Walsh and Lou Holtz.
Chris Ault
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Old ass football coaches who come out of retirement to try and lead a team were proven failures as well until last season happened. I don't want Sean, but if Bill wins a national championship, I'm cool with him naming his replacement.
Didn't that guy at Nevada do it? They did alright.
And, yeah, if Bill wins a Natty, he can name that Cotton Bowl windbreaker HCIW for all I care.
I honestly have no idea who coaches at Nevada. I was thinking of Bill Walsh and Lou Holtz.
Chris Ault
Bingo. Hall of Famer too as well. Ault has spent all but eight years of his adult life at Nevada as a player, coach or administrator. He was also the creator of the "Pistol" offense as well.
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No amount of winning could ever make it right. I'm ashamed anyone could say otherwise.
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Dimel gets a head coaching job somewhere. Sean becomes the OC for the next 3 years (because Bill ain't retiring when Tate graduates, he's retiring when Sams graduates). If we win a NC during those 3 years (this year won't count, because Sean has to be OC during it) then we give him a go.
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very different
Basketball the right coach is the coach that brings in the best players, the system/program/culture isn't nearly as important in football. Football is much more of a chess game. Gottleib was more of an acceptable risk because although he was inexperienced, it seems like he could have the tools needed to be a good basketball coach. Same with Frank, his HC experience was quite limited but he seemed to have the proper tools to be a successful head coach. Being am elite football head coach seems like it is much more involved than being an elite basketball coach.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Agree. Probably right on this point, but I was more alluding to what Kat Kid was saying above I just didn't feel like looking it up.
What happens after Bill is something that will be debated until it happens.
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I don't think that Sean would be very good, but to be honest if we won a MNC or two Dr. Ps I would gladly endure 3 years of crap football. Hell, I would show up at games, watch us get our asses kicked and look at that MNC banner/ paint and grin from ear to ear.
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Hang on, KK listed zero college football coaches who took over for their father based on nepotism. We all know it ended poorly for the alcoholic Sutton's and the Knights, but has it ever happened in college football?
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Bill's brain being implanted in Sean's body
Not promoting this at all, but I always thought J. Beasley was as close as we got to having Bill's Brain on the field. He'll make somebody a good coach someday.
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Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder
whoa pump the brakes there big fella.. I was mercilessly ridiculed(ok probably not) on ksufans for being pro snyds since the re-hire and I'd like to bask in that for a moment.. feels good :gocho:
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Do not want Johnny as HC. I remember seeing him blasted out of his mind at O'Malleys falling into walls and crap when he first came back to town. Do not want. Also....he's fat.
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Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder
whoa pump the brakes there big fella.. I was mercilessly ridiculed(ok probably not) on ksufans for being pro snyds since the re-hire and I'd like to bask in that for a moment.. feels good :gocho:
no you weren't (pro snyder or ridiculed)
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i was pro snyder and somewhat ridiculed
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To answer the OP, anything short of a crystal (foot)ball that tells me it's all going to be ok will not be enough.
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Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder
whoa pump the brakes there big fella.. I was mercilessly ridiculed(ok probably not) on ksufans for being pro snyds since the re-hire and I'd like to bask in that for a moment.. feels good :gocho:
no you weren't (pro snyder or ridiculed)
yes I was, I also remember balling on michigancats face with some gepetto reference. stunz can also confirm was pro-snyd in real lifez as well
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I guess if it happens I'll take the exact stance I have with Weber. I hate the hire, I think it was extremely short sighted and foolish, but I hope I'm dead wrong and am going to give the guy a chance.
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pretty sure Bill knows more about football than any of us, if he's cool with Sean, so am I.
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As long as Webster is gone by the time Sean takes over, then I am fine with this. I just don't want two unexciting and, in all likelihood, horrible hires coaching at the same time.
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no
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pretty sure Bill knows more about football than any of us, if he's cool with Sean, so am I.
I am completely fine with anyone Bill wants as long as he is not related to them.
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If we win a NC I won't give a eff about anything. It'll be the pinnacle that we'd never reach again in my life. I'd forever be 45 year old johnny football hero in the hall thinking about the good old days. No amount of suckitude some crap tastic coach we have could ever bring me back.
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If we win a NC I won't give a eff about anything. It'll be the pinnacle that we'd never reach again in my life. I'd forever be 45 year old johnny football hero in the hall thinking about the good old days. No amount of suckitude some crap tastic coach we have could ever bring me back.
This is probably true for me as well, and it is what I based my comment on. As you all know, I am 100% on team:gonnawineveryfuckingoneofthem this year. However, the thought of Webster and Sean coaching at the same time is a major downer.
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You idiots. NC's come in waves. You win one and you're probably going to win another pretty soon from all the capital and recruiting interest injected into your program.
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If OB won a National Title I'd let him make Whitney the HCIW.
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pretty sure Bill knows more about football than any of us, if he's cool with Sean, so am I.
I am completely fine with anyone Bill wants as long as he is not related to them.
I'm getting to the point where I'm okay with this staff staying together for the sake of continuity...provided that the HC is Dimel (or someone else Bill brings in) and Dimel isn't opposed to bringing in coaches that can recruit.
A quick glance at the staff tells me that Snyder (72), Miller (62), Hayes (63), and Latimore (58) are probably looking at walking out the door together (or at least within a year or two of one another). That would leave Dimel (48), Dickey (47), Smith (39), Joe Bob (35), Cox (45), and Sean (40).
Now, knowing that half of the staff probably walks out with Bill, does that mean we start over because we're essentially starting over anyway? Or does that mean we let Dimel fill in the blanks with new guys? What recruiters we actually do have would still be here with Dimel, so there may be a core to work with.
If Dimel takes over, the roster most likely stays intact, existing recruiting pipelines stay intact, and we keep the same offensive scheme (that's pretty good). We'd have to hire new offensive and defensive coordinators, though, so there's an element of risk there. Do we promote from within (Smith and Joe Bob) and get position players? Does Beasley come back as QB coach? Does Gordon come back? Does Blake Seiler take Mo's place?
Sean as HC won't ever work for me (truthfully), but this scenario could if the situation worked out right.
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I'm getting to the point where I'm okay with this staff staying together for the sake of continuity...provided that the HC is Dimel (or someone else Bill brings in) and Dimel isn't opposed to bringing in coaches that can recruit.
A quick glance at the staff tells me that Snyder (72), Miller (62), Hayes (63), and Latimore (58) are probably looking at walking out the door together (or at least within a year or two of one another). That would leave Dimel (48), Dickey (47), Smith (39), Joe Bob (35), Cox (45), and Sean (40).
Now, knowing that half of the staff probably walks out with Bill, does that mean we start over because we're essentially starting over anyway? Or does that mean we let Dimel fill in the blanks with new guys? What recruiters we actually do have would still be here with Dimel, so there may be a core to work with.
If Dimel takes over, the roster most likely stays intact, existing recruiting pipelines stay intact, and we keep the same offensive scheme (that's pretty good). We'd have to hire new offensive and defensive coordinators, though, so there's an element of risk there. Do we promote from within (Smith and Joe Bob) and get position players? Does Beasley come back as QB coach? Does Gordon come back? Does Blake Seiler take Mo's place?
Sean as HC won't ever work for me (truthfully), but this scenario could if the situation worked out right.
If its a hire from the current staff, Dimel is the best option. He's sort of the Underwood of football.
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Sean hasn't coached a game here. I say give him a chance.
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I'm getting to the point where I'm okay with this staff staying together for the sake of continuity...provided that the HC is Dimel (or someone else Bill brings in) and Dimel isn't opposed to bringing in coaches that can recruit.
A quick glance at the staff tells me that Snyder (72), Miller (62), Hayes (63), and Latimore (58) are probably looking at walking out the door together (or at least within a year or two of one another). That would leave Dimel (48), Dickey (47), Smith (39), Joe Bob (35), Cox (45), and Sean (40).
Now, knowing that half of the staff probably walks out with Bill, does that mean we start over because we're essentially starting over anyway? Or does that mean we let Dimel fill in the blanks with new guys? What recruiters we actually do have would still be here with Dimel, so there may be a core to work with.
If Dimel takes over, the roster most likely stays intact, existing recruiting pipelines stay intact, and we keep the same offensive scheme (that's pretty good). We'd have to hire new offensive and defensive coordinators, though, so there's an element of risk there. Do we promote from within (Smith and Joe Bob) and get position players? Does Beasley come back as QB coach? Does Gordon come back? Does Blake Seiler take Mo's place?
Sean as HC won't ever work for me (truthfully), but this scenario could if the situation worked out right.
If its a hire from the current staff, Dimel is the best option. He's sort of the Underwood of football.
yeah, rumblings all that scheming everyone talks about is pretty much 100% dimel at this point
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and WTF Mo is seriously only 58?
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Not hiring Dimel would be a HUGE mistake, not building on the only football success we have ever had is quit short sighted.
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I'm getting to the point where I'm okay with this staff staying together for the sake of continuity...provided that the HC is Dimel (or someone else Bill brings in) and Dimel isn't opposed to bringing in coaches that can recruit.
A quick glance at the staff tells me that Snyder (72), Miller (62), Hayes (63), and Latimore (58) are probably looking at walking out the door together (or at least within a year or two of one another). That would leave Dimel (48), Dickey (47), Smith (39), Joe Bob (35), Cox (45), and Sean (40).
Now, knowing that half of the staff probably walks out with Bill, does that mean we start over because we're essentially starting over anyway? Or does that mean we let Dimel fill in the blanks with new guys? What recruiters we actually do have would still be here with Dimel, so there may be a core to work with.
If Dimel takes over, the roster most likely stays intact, existing recruiting pipelines stay intact, and we keep the same offensive scheme (that's pretty good). We'd have to hire new offensive and defensive coordinators, though, so there's an element of risk there. Do we promote from within (Smith and Joe Bob) and get position players? Does Beasley come back as QB coach? Does Gordon come back? Does Blake Seiler take Mo's place?
Sean as HC won't ever work for me (truthfully), but this scenario could if the situation worked out right.
If its a hire from the current staff, Dimel is the best option. He's sort of the Underwood of football.
yeah, rumblings all that scheming everyone talks about is pretty much 100% dimel at this point
I am #teamDimel if this is the case. However, I am somewhat concerned that maybe we are being schemed to think that so that Sean can be promoted to OC by Dimel once Bill is gone per some super secrety agreement already in place btwn Dimel and Bill.
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Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder
whoa pump the brakes there big fella.. I was mercilessly ridiculed(ok probably not) on ksufans for being pro snyds since the re-hire and I'd like to bask in that for a moment.. feels good :gocho:
I am happy with all that Snyder has done, but still would have preferred Patterson. Also, a national title would make me less likely to entrust the program to a little experienced coach such as Sean.
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There is nothing Bill Synder can do to make me ok with hiring Sean.
Cut the ties completely as soon as he retires again. 100% turnover on staff (or as close to as possible).
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Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder
whoa pump the brakes there big fella.. I was mercilessly ridiculed(ok probably not) on ksufans for being pro snyds since the re-hire and I'd like to bask in that for a moment.. feels good :gocho:
I am happy with all that Snyder has done, but still would have preferred Patterson. Also, a national title would make me less likely to entrust the program to a little experienced coach such as Sean.
oh well yes, I was meaning I was pro snyds as soon as he was re-hired him. I was definitely teampatterson from the beginning and wonder what he could've accomplished here.
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Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder
whoa pump the brakes there big fella.. I was mercilessly ridiculed(ok probably not) on ksufans for being pro snyds since the re-hire and I'd like to bask in that for a moment.. feels good :gocho:
I am happy with all that Snyder has done, but still would have preferred Patterson. Also, a national title would make me less likely to entrust the program to a little experienced coach such as Sean.
Could not agree more with this part. If we are to the point where we can win a National Championship, then we are also to the point where we can get a much better coach in here than an inexperienced Sean Snyder. I think Bill would agree with this as well.
Also, and this may be low-LHCBS-IQ, but is there anything on record that suggests that Bill actually wants Sean to be the HCIW or thinks that he is qualified for the job?
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Also, and this may be low-LHCBS-IQ, but is there anything on record that suggests that Bill actually wants Sean to be the HCIW or thinks that he is qualified for the job?
I think Captain Crap, or someone legitimately ITK, said something to that effect.
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Also, and this may be low-LHCBS-IQ, but is there anything on record that suggests that Bill actually wants Sean to be the HCIW or thinks that he is qualified for the job?
I think Captain Crap, or someone legitimately ITK, said something to that effect.
Yes, and several media types.
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Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder
whoa pump the brakes there big fella.. I was mercilessly ridiculed(ok probably not) on ksufans for being pro snyds since the re-hire and I'd like to bask in that for a moment.. feels good :gocho:
I am happy with all that Snyder has done, but still would have preferred Patterson. Also, a national title would make me less likely to entrust the program to a little experienced coach such as Sean.
Could not agree more with this part. If we are to the point where we can win a National Championship, then we are also to the point where we can get a much better coach in here than an inexperienced Sean Snyder. I think Bill would agree with this as well.
Also, and this may be low-LHCBS-IQ, but is there anything on record that suggests that Bill actually wants Sean to be the HCIW or thinks that he is qualified for the job?
But to win BIG like Bill you need another elite coach and we are not hiring a proven elite coach, so we are going to have to hire an unproven coach that happens to be elite, so the question is could Sean be elite?
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I didn't even bother reading this because Sean is not HCIW, you retards
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lotsa haters in this thread. goEMAW was wrong about bill! so they'll probably be wrong about Sean.
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Maybe sys can come in and accuse those in favor of allowing a Sean HCIW of being nazis.
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Now that we've established that we (myself included) were all pretty dumb for ever doubting Snyder
whoa pump the brakes there big fella.. I was mercilessly ridiculed(ok probably not) on ksufans for being pro snyds since the re-hire and I'd like to bask in that for a moment.. feels good :gocho:
I am happy with all that Snyder has done, but still would have preferred Patterson. Also, a national title would make me less likely to entrust the program to a little experienced coach such as Sean.
Could not agree more with this part. If we are to the point where we can win a National Championship, then we are also to the point where we can get a much better coach in here than an inexperienced Sean Snyder. I think Bill would agree with this as well.
Also, and this may be low-LHCBS-IQ, but is there anything on record that suggests that Bill actually wants Sean to be the HCIW or thinks that he is qualified for the job?
But to win BIG like Bill you need another elite coach and we are not hiring a proven elite coach, so we are going to have to hire an unproven coach that happens to be elite, so the question is could Sean be elite?
People are saying they would take Sean if Bill wins a title. I am saying that would make me less happy about Sean because at that point we could potentially hire a proven, really good coach (although KSU will never get elite). Sean is/will not be elite. You don't suck on your dads tit for decades because you are so rough ridin' good at coaching.
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The only good thing with hiring Sean would be that if he does turn out to be an elite coach, ksu is a destination job for him so he wouldn't use us as a stepping stone. I'd rather kstate hire an elite coach who will use us and abuse us while SS goes and gets some HC experience and we can determine if he sucks or not.
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I'm happy with the successes but it will hurt us in the long run.
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Sean hasn't coached a game here. I say give him a chance.
Dear michigancat,
I enjoyed this post tremendously.
Thanks,
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The only good thing with hiring Sean would be that if he does turn out to be an elite coach, ksu is a destination job for him so he wouldn't use us as a stepping stone. I'd rather kstate hire an elite coach who will use us and abuse us while SS goes and gets some HC experience and we can determine if he sucks or not.
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KState was also supposed to be a destination job for Ron Prince. If thats your advantage, eff you.
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People are saying they would take Sean if Bill wins a title. I am saying that would make me less happy about Sean because at that point we could potentially hire a proven, really good coach (although KSU will never get elite). Sean is/will not be elite. You don't suck on your dads tit for decades because you are so rough ridin' good at coaching.
There is absolutely nothing that would change about the K-State head coaching job if K-State were to win a National Championship under Snyder. We would still have the same selection of coaches, and if anything, the job would be worse because it would carry higher expectations with the same disadvantages that already exist.
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I'm fairly sure that KSU winning two Dr. Peppers would make a good number of people on this board just retire and move back to Manhattan forever. They would hang out at Mae's and bow down to the genius of Snyder until their lungs gave out and they expired. People would try to avoid them but they would keep accosting everyone and rent shitty apartments above Kite's and Fat's. This board wants to tuck so hard you can rough ridin' taste it. 2 Dr. Peps means an infinity of shitty Sean ball or if he actually wins he leaves in 5.
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People are saying they would take Sean if Bill wins a title. I am saying that would make me less happy about Sean because at that point we could potentially hire a proven, really good coach (although KSU will never get elite). Sean is/will not be elite. You don't suck on your dads tit for decades because you are so rough ridin' good at coaching.
There is absolutely nothing that would change about the K-State head coaching job if K-State were to win a National Championship under Snyder. We would still have the same selection of coaches, and if anything, the job would be worse because it would carry higher expectations with the same disadvantages that already exist.
No way our job would not be worse if we won a national title. We would have more national prominence/media attention, we would prove we could win in the big 12 this decade, we would have a huge influx in cash to do more with in our expansions. Every recruit in the damn country would know who K-State is and where we are.
That would make us instantly more appealing to coaches. Would we all of a sudden be competing for Sabans/Meyers? Of course not, but it would put a Patterson in play again. It would allow us to potentially take coaches from the bottom half of a BCS conference whereas its asst or mid-major for us now.
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David Ubben ?@davidubben
RT @BlairKerkhoff LHC Bill Snyder on preference for son Sean to succeed him. "Nobody has invested more, understands (KSt) better than he does."
panic button?
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Right now for me the future of the entire world only lasts through Jan 7.
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Right now for me the future of the entire world only lasts through Jan 7.
oh man, stupid mayans and their calendar are going to ruin this for us, aren't they? :ohno:
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Didn't go back, but wasn't there some that said winning a Natty would be enough?
Welp.
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Didn't go back, but wasn't there some that said winning a Natty would be enough?
Welp.
would be more than enough for me.
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Would rather gobble Sean's nuts than take another breath of fresh air if we win a Natty. [/thread]
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What if Sean is the evil genius we all expect him to be? What if?
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why do people keep asking bill about his successor and why does he keep answering them? we have games to play bill!
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It's a scheme.
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if we win a MNC. :party: on sean
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if we win mnc then we can cancel sports and shut down the school for all i care.
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Drop down to FCS. :lynchmob:
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As long as sams finds a landing spot somewhere worthy of his talents, im good with sean t
urning this into a crap show
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Win Crystal Football and they can make Catzacker the coach for all I care.
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Win Crystal Football and they can make Catzacker the coach for all I care.
Can you imagine the pressers? :love:
Well, you know, I'm really concerned about the Jayhawks this week. That Heaps kid is really good, and they played the University of Buffalo really tough last week before losing in the 4th quarter. I don't think we really have a chance this week. Daniel has put up big numbers at quarterback in our first 6 games, but it seems like it may be smoke and mirrors. He'll probably throw 3 interceptions and fumble a couple times. Actually, eff it, I'm just going to call Charlie up and tell him we forfeit.
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if we win mnc then we can cancel sports and shut down the school for all i care.
that seems a bit extreme. I'm not on board with this.
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if we win mnc then we can cancel sports and shut down the school for all i care.
Had serious discussions on Saturday night about completely giving up being a sports fan after winning the MNC. It could not get any better after that, so I think I'm for it.
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if we win mnc then we can cancel sports and shut down the school for all i care.
Had serious discussions on Saturday night about completely giving up being a sports fan after winning the MNC. It could not get any better after that, so I think I'm for it.
3 more years of #life says you can go eff yourself
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Oh, man! How could I forget about #life? Need to check myself before I wreck myself.
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Winning a ship will make us individually and collectively worse fans.
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Right now for me the future of the entire world only lasts through Jan 7.
Similar to this, I'm just enjoying the ride week to week. :drink: (Though I do have a hotel reservation for Miami already ... :pray: )
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Winning a ship will make us individually and collectively worse fans.
I'm going to be so smug and insufferable to all the KU/MU/Chiefs fans. I probably won't have any friends left, but whatevs we got a MNC....OT: Do we stop calling it a MNC when we win?
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Winning a ship will make us individually and collectively worse fans.
Sounds like it will only make this board better :lynchmob:
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if we win the mnc I'm going to just swim out to sea from miami beach, never to return again
so I don't really care
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if we win the mnc I'm going to just swim out to sea from miami beach, never to return again
so I don't really care
Will this be like a suicide because of WHOOAT? (alcohol related)
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if we win the mnc I'm going to just swim out to sea from miami beach, never to return again
so I don't really care
Will this be like a suicide because of WHOOAT? (alcohol related)
I'm not sure where I'll go from there
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Never really knew what MNC stood for.
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if we win the mnc I'm going to just swim out to sea from miami beach, never to return again
so I don't really care
We should all do this collectively; all goEMAW'rs just disappear into the mists never to be seen or heard from again.
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Never really knew what MNC stood for.
"Mythical" National Championship
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I have no clue how I'm going to deal with actually winning it all. It scares me honestly.
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I have no clue how I'm going to deal with actually winning it all. It scares me honestly.
Already told my parents I'm trying cocaine. Lots of it probably.
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I have no clue how I'm going to deal with actually winning it all. It scares me honestly.
Already told my parents I'm trying cocaine. Lots of it probably.
I always thought you were about 30 years old, so this your post is rather humorous if you read like you are in your 30's. "Hey Mom and Dad, I am a full grown successful man. If the Cats win the whole damn thing this year, I just wanted to let you know that I am going to drop several lines and snort them up like a champ! GO CATS!"
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I have no clue how I'm going to deal with actually winning it all. It scares me honestly.
Already told my parents I'm trying cocaine. Lots of it probably.
Might want to talk to Linn Bias's parents about this
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if we win the mnc I'm going to just swim out to sea from miami beach, never to return again
so I don't really care
I'll meet you in cuba :gocho:
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if we win the mnc I'm going to just swim out to sea from miami beach, never to return again
so I don't really care
I'll meet you in cuba :gocho:
Had a dream that we won the MNC (KSU 28, ND 17) and I ended up in Cuba. Woke up on top of the Bacardi building with a few Castros and some cocaine. It was magical
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OT: apparently I've been misusing MNC. Apologies to all affected. :embarrassed:
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if we win the mnc I'm going to just swim out to sea from miami beach, never to return again
so I don't really care
I'll meet you in cuba :gocho:
I've always wanted to get into human trafficking
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I always envisioned watching the game at a friend's house in MHK and when we win running to Aggieville no matter what the starting point is.
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Winning a ship will make us individually and collectively worse fans.
Sounds like it will only make this board better :lynchmob:
8-5 will be completely unacceptable, Sean will be given no rope at all. I only have two favorite pro teams one has forever been a loser and the other was a loser for 86 years. Winning satisfies you for a year and then like a junkie you just want/need more to sustain you. It's like sex, you think losing your virginity is hard and then you discover a dry spell is much harder.
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I always envisioned watching the game at a friend's house in MHK and when we win running to Aggieville no matter what the starting point is.
Watch it at Kat Kid's house
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We're probably going to need a disposable coach. (Is this what BW is?)
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I always envisioned watching the game at a friend's house in MHK and when we win running to Aggieville no matter what the starting point is.
the xavier sweet 16 strategy
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I always envisioned watching the game at a friend's house in MHK and when we win running to Aggieville no matter what the starting point is.
the xavier sweet 16 strategy
Exactly what I did. Fortunately I was living at 1111 Vattier.
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I always envisioned watching the game at a friend's house in MHK and when we win running to Aggieville no matter what the starting point is.
the xavier sweet 16 strategy
Exactly what I did. Fortunately I was living at 1111 Vattier.
12th and bertrand, it was literally like a crowd running from all the houses toward the ville
awesome night
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I always envisioned watching the game at a friend's house in MHK and when we win running to Aggieville no matter what the starting point is.
the xavier sweet 16 strategy
Exactly what I did. Fortunately I was living at 1111 Vattier.
12th and bertrand, it was literally like a crowd running from all the houses toward the ville
awesome night
Yeah, pretty great. Started at 17th and Fairchild. What a joyous mob.
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I always envisioned watching the game at a friend's house in MHK and when we win running to Aggieville no matter what the starting point is.
the xavier sweet 16 strategy
Exactly what I did. Fortunately I was living at 1111 Vattier.
12th and bertrand, it was literally like a crowd running from all the houses toward the ville
awesome night
Yeah, pretty great. Started at 17th and Fairchild. What a joyous mob.
I started at Juliette and Vattier!
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Maybe we all ran together and didn't know. :D
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:D
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Snyder, 73, recently was quoted in the New York Times saying he will recommend that his son, Sean, take over the program when he retires a second time.
Sean, K-State's associate head coach, played for the Wildcats his final two seasons and has been on staff since he was a part-time assistant coach in 1994.
"Sean has been in the program longer than I have," LHC Bill Snyder said on Monday's Big 12 teleconference. "Kansas State is a unique place. I don't think anybody understands it any better than he does. Somebody asked me a question and I answered it the best that I could.
"I want Sean to be able to do what he wants to do. But as far as understanding this program I don't think anybody has invested more and done more than he has, and understands it more than he does."
Oh man. :sdeek:
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Currie will probably be obligued to at least interview Sean, just based of that several donors that will go for whatever Snyder recommends. I see no possible scenario in which he gets farther than a courtesy interview.
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If sean would keep the majority of the staff together and new enough people to make good hires, I wouldn't be pissed. The current staff is really effing good and an outside coach wouldn't have the capacity to build a staff at the same level for the the long run. So kinda :dunno: on the idea. All I know is Currie better stay the eff away from our football program.
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Ou,wvu, And tech were my superbowls everything else is gravy
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If sean would keep the majority of the staff together and new enough people to make good hires, I wouldn't be pissed. The current staff is really effing good and an outside coach wouldn't have the capacity to build a staff at the same level for the the long run. So kinda :dunno: on the idea. All I know is Currie better stay the eff away from our football program.
Dimel certainly wouldn't stay without a big boost & salary, and then you'd think.Dickey wouldn't stay if Dimel.and Sean did. I'm guessing these guys don't want to be assistants under a guy who jumped them on the flow.chart.
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Has Sean been networking? I don't care if he knows the program if he can't get any assistants worth a damn.
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I think before the year started I would trade hiring Sean for the excitement of this year so far. :bill: :sean:
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I am 30. I did tell my parents that. I'm deadly rough ridin' serious, too.
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I have no clue how I'm going to deal with actually winning it all. It scares me honestly.
Already told my parents I'm trying cocaine. Lots of it probably.
I always thought you were about 30 years old, so this your post is rather humorous if you read like you are in your 30's. "Hey Mom and Dad, I am a full grown successful man. If the Cats win the whole damn thing this year, I just wanted to let you know that I am going to drop several lines and snort them up like a champ! GO CATS!"
quote for context
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I'll see your Sean Snyder and raise you a Charlie Weis, Jr.
:goodbyecruelworld:
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I'll see your Sean Snyder and raise you a Charlie Weis, Jr.
:goodbyecruelworld:
How 'bout oscar Weber coach KU football and Charlie Weis coach KSU basketball?
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I'll see your Sean Snyder and raise you a Charlie Weis, Jr.
:goodbyecruelworld:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fkan%2Fsports%2Fm-footbl%2Fauto_headshot%2F8017818.jpeg&hash=35a9e03d6f05a6253c688f46c44a68516e106dba) :horrorsurprise:
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HE HASN'T COACHED A GAME, YOU GUYS. GIVE HIM A CHANCE.
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after the kick off team's performance last weekend? no thanks you guys. :clac:
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after the kick off team's performance last weekend? no thanks you guys. :clac:
What about the kick return and punt team performance?
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I'll see your Sean Snyder and raise you a Charlie Weis, Jr.
:goodbyecruelworld:
How 'bout oscar Weber coach KU football and Charlie Weis coach KSU basketball?
Would take
I would be happy with if we could just have Charlie do all KSU basketball press conferences/interviews
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Give Sean the TCU job after Patterson leaves for Arkansas.
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I always envisioned watching the game at a friend's house in MHK and when we win running to Aggieville no matter what the starting point is.
the xavier sweet 16 strategy
Exactly what I did. Fortunately I was living at 1111 Vattier.
We were neighbors! 1214 vattier for 3 years mother effers