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Title: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Unruly on August 21, 2012, 01:40:17 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/53693/kansas-state-should-not-expect-2011-repeat


If we get any more chips on our shoulders I am afraid they are going to fall off.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 21, 2012, 01:46:57 PM
"Yet, history suggests it is unlikely for Kansas State to win 10 games again next year without increasing its score differential. Because of last season's success in close games, don't be surprised if the Wildcats win fewer games despite being a better team than a year ago."

Then we'll just increase our score differential, mmkay?
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: MadCat on August 21, 2012, 01:54:13 PM
You do not measure a mystical wizard using statistics.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: The Manhatter on August 21, 2012, 03:20:37 PM
if that is the way they explain 2011 then okay.  But 2012 has nothing to do w/ 2011 since it is true that neither KSU 2012 or any of its opponents are the same teams as their 2011 selves.

weird story to justify why espn hates ksu.

Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Winters on August 21, 2012, 03:24:22 PM
:dnr:
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: mocat on August 21, 2012, 03:41:21 PM
i wonder what would happen to their theory if you replaced 10-7 with 42-0 or something
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Skipper44 on August 21, 2012, 03:52:06 PM
i wonder what would happen to their theory if you replaced 10-7 with 42-0 or something
and if we lost to OU 42-27 as well.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: deputy dawg on August 21, 2012, 03:54:35 PM
i wonder what would happen to their theory if you replaced 10-7 with 42-0 or something

Would increase scoring differential, and then our record would make sense.  Damn, too bad ku is going to be so good this year so we could increase our scoring differential further.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Shacks on August 21, 2012, 04:01:37 PM
i wonder what would happen to their theory if you replaced 10-7 with 42-0 or something

I wonder what they would say if a team like Oklahoma or Alabama had the exact same season K-State did last year and returned the same starters/coaches.  I'm betting we would hear a lot more about how they are going to repeat a clutch season full of big plays.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Frankenklein on August 21, 2012, 04:02:49 PM
    And if we go 13-0 winning the NC, will last year still be considered lucky?
I've also discovered that in all of the college football games ever won by a team another team has also lost the exact same game
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 21, 2012, 04:03:32 PM
i wonder what would happen to their theory if you replaced 10-7 with 42-0 or something

I wonder what they would say if a team like Oklahoma or Alabama had the exact same season K-State did last year and returned the same starters/coaches.  I'm betting we would hear a lot more about how they are going to repeat a clutch season full of big plays.

Auburn 2010 (almost)
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Bookcat on August 22, 2012, 08:44:56 AM
Ohio State put together a decade of dominance in the Big 10 by winning by a field goal...
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: OnlyInATJ on August 22, 2012, 09:16:14 AM
Can we get some math done on the probability on Snyder's turnaround part 1?  Or how about on part 2?  If these calculations were correct I'm betting we'd still be on KU's level.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: wes mantooth on August 22, 2012, 09:19:24 AM
early nominee for best thread title csourky
Title: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: felix rex on August 22, 2012, 09:36:31 AM
I enjoy the increasingly complex attempts to explain our 2011 season.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Mr Bread on August 22, 2012, 09:39:28 AM
Ohio State put together a decade of dominance in the Big 10 by winning by a field goal...

That's not exactly true if you're talking about Tressel ball.  Their NC season they squeaked by most all of their games, but after that they started routinely blowing out the rest of the conference and yet getting crushed in bowl games.  A strange equilibrium.  Win all of them by a hair, or win most of them by a crap ton and lose the most important one by a crap ton.  :dunno:
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Panjandrum on August 22, 2012, 09:40:27 AM
If ESPN spent as much time analyzing what team we will be in 2012 as opposed to the anomaly of 2011, they would have had enough time to actually hire some advanced statisticians that know what they're talking about and give them actual work.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Panjandrum on August 22, 2012, 09:41:02 AM
Ohio State put together a decade of dominance in the Big 10 by winning by a field goal...

That's not exactly true if you're talking about Tressel ball.  Their NC season they squeaked by most all of their games, but after that they started routinely blowing out the rest of the conference and yet getting crushed in bowl games.  A strange equilibrium.  Win all of them by a hair, or win most of them by a crap ton and lose the most important one by a crap ton.  :dunno:

That was how we were when we were winning eleven games a year.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2012, 09:43:33 AM
Ohio State put together a decade of dominance in the Big 10 by winning by a field goal...

That's not exactly true if you're talking about Tressel ball.  Their NC season they squeaked by most all of their games, but after that they started routinely blowing out the rest of the conference and yet getting crushed in bowl games.  A strange equilibrium.  Win all of them by a hair, or win most of them by a crap ton and lose the most important one by a crap ton.  :dunno:

That was how we were when we were winning eleven games a year.

TELL THAT TO SYRACUSE (1/2 the time), WASHINGTON (still counts), TENNESSEE AND ARIZONA STATE PANJADRUM YOU DUMBASS
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: catzacker on August 22, 2012, 09:50:56 AM
i've posted this before, but...

4-7
5-6
7-6
5-7
5-7
6-6
7-6
10-3

trending up or anomaly?
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2012, 09:51:51 AM
i've posted this before, but...

4-7
5-6
7-6
5-7
5-7
6-6
7-6
10-3

trending up or anomaly?

chingon, put this into wolfram alpha and tell us what it says
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: 'taterblast on August 22, 2012, 09:53:04 AM
i've posted this before, but...

4-7
5-6
7-6
5-7
5-7
6-6
7-6
10-3

trending up or anomaly?

THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT AND YOU KNOW IT, SQUAWK
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: 8manpick on August 22, 2012, 09:55:53 AM
early nominee for best thread title csourky

Yeah, it is really good. Seconded.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Unruly on August 22, 2012, 01:26:54 PM
 
early nominee for best thread title csourky

Yeah, it is really good. Seconded.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 22, 2012, 01:28:37 PM
We're gonna win 11 games
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: slobber on August 22, 2012, 01:32:55 PM
We're gonna win 11 games before we play UT.
FYP
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Pete on August 22, 2012, 01:41:40 PM
Chingon did an analysis a couple years ago, and showed that in the history of the Big 12 there had been only two "outlier" seasons.  The first was UT's losing season a decade ago, and the second was KU in 2007.

I wonder where KSU 2011 fits?
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 22, 2012, 01:42:23 PM
We're gonna win 11 games before we play UT.
FYP

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: slobber on August 22, 2012, 01:48:09 PM
We are going to win every rough ridin' one this year!!!!  :excited:  :excited:
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: BEFR on August 22, 2012, 01:57:28 PM
Can we get some math done on the probability on Snyder's turnaround part 1?  Or how about on part 2?  If these calculations were correct I'm betting we'd still be on KU's level.

i was there for the pre-snyder years... trust me, ku would thrash us, and so would methstate, la-la and everyone else... without peppermint schnappes, i doubt the student side would have been more than 1/3 full  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Unruly on August 22, 2012, 04:55:14 PM
Anyone have insider to copy/paste this one?


http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8288537/kansas-state-candidates-decline-2012-ncf
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: purplehaze on August 22, 2012, 05:06:28 PM
i've posted this before, but...

4-7
5-6
7-6
5-7
5-7

6-6
7-6
10-3

trending up or anomaly?

different players, but more accurate for Snyder specifically. definite upward trend
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 22, 2012, 05:06:48 PM
Anyone have insider to copy/paste this one?


http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8288537/kansas-state-candidates-decline-2012-ncf

No, but I can tell you what it says

Quote
KSU won eight games by 7 points or less, needed a last minute TD to beat FCS EKU 10-7, and did this with players the skill/size level of an mid-major.  Also, don't expect Klein to make it through the season.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: p1k3 on August 22, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
What a joke. And if we "only" win 9 games they still get to say they're right. male genitals suckers.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Unruly on December 04, 2012, 01:53:47 PM
Any way we can bump this on ESPN and watch them eat an entire murder of crows?
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on December 04, 2012, 02:11:38 PM
We're gonna win 11 games

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: SEK_EMAW on December 04, 2012, 02:17:34 PM
We're gonna win 11 games

 :thumbs:
:dubious:
Before post-season, right?
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on December 04, 2012, 02:32:33 PM
We're gonna win 11 games

 :thumbs:
:dubious:
Before post-season, right?

of course
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Unruly on December 04, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
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Pythagoras would be pleased with this find jmp.

Thanks!
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Unruly on December 07, 2012, 11:11:28 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/61120/k-state-defied-the-odds-and-did-it-again



Which one of you awesome EMAWers bumped this to Ubben?
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Post by: SwiftCat on December 07, 2012, 01:24:06 PM
No one did. He reads goEMAW.
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on December 07, 2012, 01:32:09 PM
I thought Fanning was Ubben  :dunno:
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Pittcat on December 07, 2012, 01:45:02 PM
I thought Fanning was Ubben  :dunno:

They are about the same height.  :dunno:
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: OK_Cat on December 07, 2012, 01:53:27 PM
No one did. He reads goEMAW.

i thought this was common knowledge.  this place is media central. 
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: slobber on December 07, 2012, 02:00:24 PM
I thought Fanning was Ubben  :dunno:
Denied. One of them is not Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: Domino on December 07, 2012, 02:00:31 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/61120/k-state-defied-the-odds-and-did-it-again



Which one of you awesome EMAWers bumped this to Ubben?

 :gocho:
Title: Re: ESPN uses math to explain Snyderball. Pythagoras bitch slaps them.
Post by: AbeFroman on December 07, 2012, 02:32:02 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/61120/k-state-defied-the-odds-and-did-it-again


Defied odds? Or maybe unlike Vegas, ESPN sucks taints and buttholes at setting odds.