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Title: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 01:01:48 PM
i'm thinking about writing a book that will lean heavily on pictures and stats/numbers. it will be about all of the public mens bathrooms in manhattan and would be able to be used as a guide of sorts. like, say you are on the southeastern corner of campus and you want to know where the closest one urinal bathroom is because maybe you don't like the idea of potentially having to stand next to someone else while urinating. boom you pull the book out for reference. or maybe you are on anderson out west and want a clean bathroom with a lock on it. boom again. my question is, how much would you guys be willing to pay for such a book? twenty dollars? twenty five? would paperback vs hardcopy make a difference with everyone? anyway that's what i'm thinking about and any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: steve dave on July 25, 2012, 01:03:08 PM
didn't we have this thread already?  was that you that started it before?  fatty?
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Saulbadguy on July 25, 2012, 01:04:14 PM
first run, hardcover, twenty-five dollars.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: _33 on July 25, 2012, 01:04:49 PM
I would pay a ton of money for this. Could you make it an app instead? Either way I would pay top dollar for something like this.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 01:05:07 PM
didn't we have this thread already?  was that you that started it before?  fatty?

kind of. before it was just bathrooms of kstate but now i'm thinking about broadening it to feature bathrooms of manhattan so that it will also appeal to the soccer mom crowd and burgeoning ft riley/troop demographic.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: steve dave on July 25, 2012, 01:05:51 PM
ok, yes, good idea.  as I don't live in manhattan I would not buy it. 
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Trim on July 25, 2012, 01:11:09 PM
Sounds like it should be an ad-supported free app.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: bubbles4ksu on July 25, 2012, 01:14:41 PM
people are willing to shell out a lot of dough to find a safe place to chowder their nose. fantastic idea. you will be rich in no time, rd.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 01:15:04 PM
Sounds like it should be an ad-supported free app.

but you can't put an ad-supported free app out in the middle of your coffee table for when you have friends over can you? just think how much fun you and some of your wichita ksu paking buddies could have looking through a nice hardcover with pictures and reminiscing of different times that you used one of the bathrooms or maybe each point out your favorite union bathroom or some funny story about something that happened after you left one of the bathrooms or something.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 25, 2012, 01:16:58 PM
The only reason I would ever buy that book would be so I could wait in line for an hour to have Rick Daris sign it. Then, when I get to the front of the line, act like I was going to have Daris sign the book and take it back and be like "Just kidding. Your book sucks, Rick!"

Title: Re: book idea
Post by: bubbles4ksu on July 25, 2012, 01:17:22 PM
Sounds like it should be an ad-supported free app.

but you can't put an ad-supported free app out in the middle of your coffee table for when you have friends over can you? just think how much fun you and some of your wichita ksu paking buddies could have looking through a nice hardcover with pictures and reminiscing of different times that you used one of the bathrooms or maybe each point out your favorite union bathroom or some funny story about something that happened after you left one of the bathrooms or something.

maybe a foreword by rd and then have guest writers do the chapters? i can tell a nice one about the bathroom at shot stop. dlew12 can attest.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 01:17:40 PM
ok, yes, good idea.  as I don't live in manhattan I would not buy it.


but don't you think that it might come in handy to the sometime visitor to manhattan like yourself?

like, let's say you went to kstate ten years ago but haven't been back since and now you and some of your old ksu fraternity buddies are going to go pak aggieville. it's now midnight and you're downstairs at maes and notice that there is no crapper, just a urinal. but, but, but...you could've sworn there used to be a toilet there back when you were a student. but wait a minute...there isn't one now. i mean what do you do? i mean yeah, you're probably going to go up the backstairs but once you get to the alley are you going left or right? i mean you don't have a lot of time to think because there is a car coming down the alley and it's raining outside. i mean left or right? left or right! the book would take out absolutely any guesswork there.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Trim on July 25, 2012, 01:20:20 PM
Sounds like it should be an ad-supported free app.

but you can't put an ad-supported free app out in the middle of your coffee table for when you have friends over can you? just think how much fun you and some of your wichita ksu paking buddies could have looking through a nice hardcover with pictures and reminiscing of different times that you used one of the bathrooms or maybe each point out your favorite union bathroom or some funny story about something that happened after you left one of the bathrooms or something.

Oh, I thought this was for people needing a bathroom close by.  You should get your business model nailed down before you seek investors.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 01:21:58 PM
Sounds like it should be an ad-supported free app.

but you can't put an ad-supported free app out in the middle of your coffee table for when you have friends over can you? just think how much fun you and some of your wichita ksu paking buddies could have looking through a nice hardcover with pictures and reminiscing of different times that you used one of the bathrooms or maybe each point out your favorite union bathroom or some funny story about something that happened after you left one of the bathrooms or something.

Oh, I thought this was for people needing a bathroom close by.  You should get your business model nailed down before you seek investors.

that's the beauty though trim! it's a multi functional book. get it?
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: 8manpick on July 25, 2012, 01:22:42 PM
people are willing to shell out a lot of dough to find a safe place to chowder their nose. fantastic idea. you will be rich in no time, rd.

:thumbs:

I'd be glad to write some about aggieville
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: slobber on July 25, 2012, 01:24:30 PM
If you write the book (and you should) you need to have this guy I know, lets call him Jed (because that is his name), critique the bathrooms in Manhattan. He specifically had a goal to take a dump in every bathroom on KSU campus and I think that spilled over to convenience stores and bars in Manhattan as well. I know a lot has changed since he was in the middle of one of his life's great ambitions, but I am pretty sure he could provide some good insider information on almost all of the bathrooms in MHK. He could reminisce about some of the bathrooms that are no longer in MHK. Also, I think it is kind of telling that Jed has actually written a book.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Trim on July 25, 2012, 01:26:02 PM
Sounds like it should be an ad-supported free app.

but you can't put an ad-supported free app out in the middle of your coffee table for when you have friends over can you? just think how much fun you and some of your wichita ksu paking buddies could have looking through a nice hardcover with pictures and reminiscing of different times that you used one of the bathrooms or maybe each point out your favorite union bathroom or some funny story about something that happened after you left one of the bathrooms or something.

Oh, I thought this was for people needing a bathroom close by.  You should get your business model nailed down before you seek investors.

that's the beauty though trim! it's a multi functional book. get it?

No, this sounds ridiculous. 
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 01:27:47 PM
Sounds like it should be an ad-supported free app.

but you can't put an ad-supported free app out in the middle of your coffee table for when you have friends over can you? just think how much fun you and some of your wichita ksu paking buddies could have looking through a nice hardcover with pictures and reminiscing of different times that you used one of the bathrooms or maybe each point out your favorite union bathroom or some funny story about something that happened after you left one of the bathrooms or something.

Oh, I thought this was for people needing a bathroom close by.  You should get your business model nailed down before you seek investors.

that's the beauty though trim! it's a multi functional book. get it?

No, this sounds ridiculous.

you don't get it. it will make more sense when i've finished the mock up.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Trim on July 25, 2012, 01:29:14 PM
Sounds like it should be an ad-supported free app.

but you can't put an ad-supported free app out in the middle of your coffee table for when you have friends over can you? just think how much fun you and some of your wichita ksu paking buddies could have looking through a nice hardcover with pictures and reminiscing of different times that you used one of the bathrooms or maybe each point out your favorite union bathroom or some funny story about something that happened after you left one of the bathrooms or something.

Oh, I thought this was for people needing a bathroom close by.  You should get your business model nailed down before you seek investors.

that's the beauty though trim! it's a multi functional book. get it?

No, this sounds ridiculous.

you don't get it. it will make more sense when i've finished the mock up.

And is this mock-up going to have been carted in and out of bathrooms by users?  No thanks.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 25, 2012, 01:38:40 PM
ok, yes, good idea.  as I don't live in manhattan I would not buy it.


but don't you think that it might come in handy to the sometime visitor to manhattan like yourself?

like, let's say you went to kstate ten years ago but haven't been back since and now you and some of your old ksu fraternity buddies are going to go pak aggieville. it's now midnight and you're downstairs at maes and notice that there is no crapper, just a urinal. but, but, but...you could've sworn there used to be a toilet there back when you were a student. but wait a minute...there isn't one now. i mean what do you do? i mean yeah, you're probably going to go up the backstairs but once you get to the alley are you going left or right? i mean you don't have a lot of time to think because there is a car coming down the alley and it's raining outside. i mean left or right? left or right! the book would take out absolutely any guesswork there.
why wouldnt I just go upstairs and take a dump in the bathroom right by the pool table?  :dunno: seems like we need a co-author on this..
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 01:40:21 PM
ok, yes, good idea.  as I don't live in manhattan I would not buy it.


but don't you think that it might come in handy to the sometime visitor to manhattan like yourself?

like, let's say you went to kstate ten years ago but haven't been back since and now you and some of your old ksu fraternity buddies are going to go pak aggieville. it's now midnight and you're downstairs at maes and notice that there is no crapper, just a urinal. but, but, but...you could've sworn there used to be a toilet there back when you were a student. but wait a minute...there isn't one now. i mean what do you do? i mean yeah, you're probably going to go up the backstairs but once you get to the alley are you going left or right? i mean you don't have a lot of time to think because there is a car coming down the alley and it's raining outside. i mean left or right? left or right! the book would take out absolutely any guesswork there.
why wouldnt I just go upstairs and take a dump in the bathroom right by the pool table?  :dunno: seems like we need a co-author on this..

because that bathroom wasn't there ten years ago when you were a student and you didn't know about it. if only there was a book....
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: puniraptor on July 25, 2012, 01:40:55 PM
I am always shocked at how awful the bathroom is at Varney's.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 01:42:14 PM
also, i bet i could do some cross promotional stuff and put products in my bathroom pics. like take a picture of a bathrom but have a can of budweiser sitting on the toilet or something and have budweiser pay me money.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: slobber on July 25, 2012, 01:44:04 PM
I am always shocked at how awful the bathroom is at Varney's.
If you had RD's book, you would be able to find a different bathroom to avoid the awfulness.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: pissclams on July 25, 2012, 01:44:47 PM
you should make the book fold out into a portable toilet, so you can flush the book down itself.  :flush:
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 01:45:49 PM
also, re:this book. i'm not going to pull any punches. if your bathroom sucks, you're going to know it.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 25, 2012, 01:46:07 PM
you should make the book fold out into a portable toilet, so you can flush the book down itself.  :flush:
I like where your head is, but what about wipe-able pages?? In a fix and have the book on you....
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: pissclams on July 25, 2012, 01:48:39 PM
you should make the book fold out into a portable toilet, so you can flush the book down itself.  :flush:
I like where your head is, but what about wipe-able pages?? In a fix and have the book on you....

of course you wipe with the pages, also hopefully you have a bidet book about bidets handy. 
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: ben ji on July 25, 2012, 01:54:07 PM
So are you expected to carry this book around with you at all times or do you just leave it on the coffee table?

Both?

Pro Tip* You can sell 1 book to every business in aggieville, they could display it by their bathrooms for people who get tired of waiting in line.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: kstate16 on July 25, 2012, 01:55:07 PM
i go out of my way on campus to hit up the union stalls.  in aggieville, it's always Pita Pit or Jimmy Johns, depending on which side of the ville i'm getting faced.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 25, 2012, 01:57:53 PM
Hey Rick, you should TOTALLY pitch this idea to the sharks on the show "Shark Tank" I'm sure they will fund the whole thing and want to take none of the profit since this is destined to be the greatest book ever.

Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 01:58:29 PM
So are you expected to carry this book around with you at all times or do you just leave it on the coffee table?

Both?

Pro Tip* You can sell 1 book to every business in aggieville, they could display it by their bathrooms for people who get tired of waiting in line.

we'll ideally, you'd probably want to purchase 2 books. one to keep at home and one to keep on you. what do you guys think about if i did some kind of deal where it was one book for twenty five dollars but you could get a two pack for forty dollars or something.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 02:03:24 PM
Hey Rick, you should TOTALLY pitch this idea to the sharks on the show "Shark Tank" I'm sure they will fund the whole thing and want to take none of the profit since this is destined to be the greatest book ever.


that's absolutely absurd. i'm sure they would want to take some of the profit.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: 8manpick on July 25, 2012, 02:10:53 PM
i go out of my way on campus to hit up the union stalls.  in aggieville, it's always Pita Pit or Jimmy Johns, depending on which side of the ville i'm getting faced.

I definitely suggest the bathrooms at Eighteen63 if you are on the west side of Aggieville.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: ben ji on July 25, 2012, 02:15:36 PM
So are you expected to carry this book around with you at all times or do you just leave it on the coffee table?

Both?

Pro Tip* You can sell 1 book to every business in aggieville, they could display it by their bathrooms for people who get tired of waiting in line.

we'll ideally, you'd probably want to purchase 2 books. one to keep at home and one to keep on you. what do you guys think about if i did some kind of deal where it was one book for twenty five dollars but you could get a two pack for forty dollars or something.

I just thought of a brilliant idea and would like to discuss some cross promotional opportunities with you.

I'm in the VERY EARLY planning stages of opening a place of business in aggieville consisting of NOTHING but toilet stalls(womens and mens). The TENTATIVE business plan is to be open from 9pm to 3am Thursday thru Saturday and charge cover of $1-$2 dollars for each person who enters. There will also be a $.25 per minute fee for anyone who takes longer than 10 minutes(timers above each stall). OBVIOUSLY we will open earlier on game days and on FPD.

EARLY estimates have me clearing close to $500k a year in PROFIT.

I would be willing to do some free advertising for your book inside my business if you can ASSURE me that my business will be PROMINENTLY displayed in you book.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 25, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
So are you expected to carry this book around with you at all times or do you just leave it on the coffee table?

Both?

Pro Tip* You can sell 1 book to every business in aggieville, they could display it by their bathrooms for people who get tired of waiting in line.

we'll ideally, you'd probably want to purchase 2 books. one to keep at home and one to keep on you. what do you guys think about if i did some kind of deal where it was one book for twenty five dollars but you could get a two pack for forty dollars or something.
maybe a coffee table book aka your show book and then a small handbook to carry around with you, like the mini bibles..
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 25, 2012, 02:44:47 PM
maybe a coffee table book aka your show book and then a small handbook to carry around with you, like the mini bibles..

Perfect comparison. The bible is consistently on the best sellers list and this book that Daris is writing is sure to be on there as well.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Brock Landers on July 25, 2012, 03:08:15 PM
This would be amazing as a pop-up book.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Mr Bread on July 25, 2012, 03:20:11 PM
I think this book is really running the risk of inciting MHK bathroom terrorism.  Meaning, if I were a bad person and I lived in or around or visited MHK and knew about this book, then I would go out of my way to routinely defile all of the recommended johns.  I'm mean really despicable stuff, and then Rick Daris looks like a know-nothing, chump swindler.  Basically Rick Daris is begging bad persons to ruin MHK shitters for everybody.  :runaway: :facepalm:  JFC Rick.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: bubbles4ksu on July 25, 2012, 03:34:47 PM
Basically Rick Daris is begging bad persons to ruin MHK shitters for everybody.

RD is the patron saint of MHK shitters. He is above restroom terrorism and would never beg bad persons to do such a thing.

And check your pms, Mr. Bread.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 03:45:45 PM
Basically Rick Daris is begging bad persons to ruin MHK shitters for everybody.

RD is the patron saint of MHK shitters. He is above restroom terrorism and would never beg bad persons to do such a thing.

And check your pms, Mr. Bread.


yeah man i love mhk b-rooms and would never do anything to put them in harms way. if anything, me writing this put is a warning shot to all public b-room owners in all mhk. you're on notice dirtbags, clean them up or else dirtbags.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: FP TC etc. on July 25, 2012, 03:49:43 PM
only mens bathrooms?

seems kind of sexist.  :dunno:
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 03:52:33 PM
only mens bathrooms?

seems kind of sexist.  :dunno:

and a grown male walking around manhattan taking pictures of womens bathroom seems kind of creepy.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: DQ12 on July 25, 2012, 03:57:10 PM
Where are you thinking about trying to get this published?
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 25, 2012, 04:00:03 PM
So are you expected to carry this book around with you at all times or do you just leave it on the coffee table?

Both?

Pro Tip* You can sell 1 book to every business in aggieville, they could display it by their bathrooms for people who get tired of waiting in line.

we'll ideally, you'd probably want to purchase 2 books. one to keep at home and one to keep on you. what do you guys think about if i did some kind of deal where it was one book for twenty five dollars but you could get a two pack for forty dollars or something.

I just thought of a brilliant idea and would like to discuss some cross promotional opportunities with you.

I'm in the VERY EARLY planning stages of opening a place of business in aggieville consisting of NOTHING but toilet stalls(womens and mens). The TENTATIVE business plan is to be open from 9pm to 3am Thursday thru Saturday and charge cover of $1-$2 dollars for each person who enters. There will also be a $.25 per minute fee for anyone who takes longer than 10 minutes(timers above each stall). OBVIOUSLY we will open earlier on game days and on FPD.

EARLY estimates have me clearing close to $500k a year in PROFIT.

I would be willing to do some free advertising for your book inside my business if you can ASSURE me that my business will be PROMINENTLY displayed in you book.

sounds like a plan. also, at 2am your bathroom place should start selling breakfast. call it breakfast and bathrooms.
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: Mr Bread on July 25, 2012, 04:08:19 PM
Basically Rick Daris is begging bad persons to ruin MHK shitters for everybody.

RD is the patron saint of MHK shitters. He is above restroom terrorism and would never beg bad persons to do such a thing.

And check your pms, Mr. Bread.


yeah man i love mhk b-rooms and would never do anything to put them in harms way. if anything, me writing this put is a warning shot to all public b-room owners in all mhk. you're on notice dirtbags, clean them up or else dirtbags.

In the social sciences, unintended consequences (sometimes unanticipated consequences or unforeseen consequences) are outcomes that are not the ones intended by a purposeful action.  The concept has long existed but was named and popularized in the 20th century by American sociologist Robert K. Merton.  The law of unintended consequences has come to be used as an adage or idiomatic warning that an intervention in a complex system tends to create unanticipated and often undesirable outcomes.  Akin to Murphy's Law, it is commonly used as a wry or humorous warning against the hubristic belief that humans can fully control the world around them. 

The road to hell is paved with good intentions Rick Daris.  Your efforts may very well destroy that which you most cherish.   
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 25, 2012, 04:10:52 PM
Please add Mr Bread to the category of most PoetWarrior-y in the CSourky's.
Title: book idea
Post by: felix rex on July 25, 2012, 04:12:29 PM
Aloe-scented pages. Thick ones. Also, the book is on a roller instead of bound along the spine. Also,beantown can scout out the women's rooms mission impossible style.
Title: book idea
Post by: steve dave on July 25, 2012, 04:13:07 PM
The book is a toilet with writing on it
Title: Re: book idea
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 25, 2012, 04:13:22 PM
Aloe-scented pages. Thick ones. Also, the book is on a roller instead of bound along the spine. Also,beantown can scout out the women's rooms mission impossible style.

 :dubious: Only a matter of time before someone said that...