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Title: Motorcycles
Post by: J on April 26, 2012, 03:47:51 PM
I'm thinking about getting my first one soon. I don't know anything about motorcycles, other than they are dangerous (thanks mom). Any experienced riders on here want to give me some beginner tips on what to get, how to ride, what to do, etc. tips? I know I have to get a special license or whatever and plan on doing that this summer.

My main question is what is a good beginner type of bike?

tia
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 26, 2012, 03:58:35 PM
Vespa scooters are great for beginners.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
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Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2012, 04:59:10 PM
Get something with a side car
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 26, 2012, 05:15:06 PM
I have ridden probably 7,000 miles on my Yamaha Vino and it is incredible. Just a real feeling of freedom.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: J on April 26, 2012, 05:15:49 PM
Get something with a side car

OMG how hipster would that be?? I would be the talk of the town...

"Hello ladies...this sidecar isn't going to fill itself, you know  :gocho:"
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: J on April 26, 2012, 05:17:06 PM
I have ridden probably 7,000 miles on my Yamaha Vino and it is incredible. Just a real feeling of freedom.  :thumbs:

This is what I'm hoping for. Plus gas and junk.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2012, 05:22:50 PM
Unless you live in a congested urban environment a motorcycle seems pretty stupid
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: J on April 26, 2012, 05:31:36 PM
Unless you live in a congested urban environment a motorcycle seems pretty stupid

There are other benefits sd. I work like almost 10 miles out of town and pay about $50 a week on gas.

Plus, I just want one for impractical purposes.

(p.s., who rides motorcycles on a crowded NY street? seems like a death sentence)
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Pete on April 26, 2012, 05:39:06 PM
I almost bought this one three years ago.

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I ended up getting a Genuine Buddy.  It was fun.  I wrecked it and broke my collar bone and would have probably died if I didn't have a full face helmet on.  go cats.
Title: Re: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 26, 2012, 06:21:31 PM
I'm thinking about getting my first one soon. I don't know anything about motorcycles, other than they are dangerous (thanks mom). Any experienced riders on here want to give me some beginner tips on what to get, how to ride, what to do, etc. tips? I know I have to get a special license or whatever and plan on doing that this summer.

My main question is what is a good beginner type of bike?

tia
I got my bike last summer.  07 suzuki gs500.  For a beginner bike, that would depend on what type of riding you want to do.  Do you want a sport bike that is the most impractical, and get laid by tons of models?  Or do you want a cruiser which is more comfortable for longer rides and get laid by worn down strippers and late 30's early 40's something single moms and eventually pay money to ride in Harley day at BSFS when you are 60?

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Title: Re: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: J on April 26, 2012, 06:25:30 PM
I'm thinking about getting my first one soon. I don't know anything about motorcycles, other than they are dangerous (thanks mom). Any experienced riders on here want to give me some beginner tips on what to get, how to ride, what to do, etc. tips? I know I have to get a special license or whatever and plan on doing that this summer.

My main question is what is a good beginner type of bike?

tia
I got my bike last summer.  07 suzuki gs500.  For a beginner bike, that would depend on what type of riding you want to do.  Do you want a sport bike that is the most impractical, and get laid by tons of models?  Or do you want a cruiser which is more comfortable for longer rides and get laid by worn down strippers and late 30's early 40's something single moms and eventually pay money to ride in Harley day at BSFS when you are 60?

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Man, that's a tough choice...
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 26, 2012, 06:40:29 PM
bike/car nerds might be the worst.
Title: Re: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 26, 2012, 06:43:40 PM
bike/car nerds might be the worst.
Good thing there are no bike nerds in this thread, yet.

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Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Rams on April 26, 2012, 09:05:52 PM
I've never understood the appeal of motorcycles.  guess I just don't like the idea of dying or being paralyzed.  2 of my best friends are motorcycles geeks.  they trailered their bikes down to arizona and rode them up through LA and san francisco and back to arizona.  they talk about it a lot.  sounds miserable to me.
Title: Re: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 26, 2012, 09:09:36 PM
I've never understood the appeal of motorcycles.  guess I just don't like the idea of dying or being paralyzed.  2 of my best friends are motorcycles geeks.  they trailered their bikes down to arizona and rode them up through LA and san francisco and back to arizona.  they talk about it a lot.  sounds miserable to me.
There are a lot of things that can kill you.  Motorcycles are fun.  Also, chicks dig motorcycles. 

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Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 26, 2012, 09:48:32 PM
The kind of chicks who dig motorcycles likely have an std or a kid.

And I've owned a few motorcycles
Title: Re: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 26, 2012, 09:52:24 PM
The kind of chicks who dig motorcycles likely have an std or a kid.

And I've owned a few motorcycles
I already posted which kinds of motorcycles will attract those kinds of girls.  Thanks, LukeSOC.

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Title: Re: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2012, 10:03:30 PM
The kind of chicks who dig motorcycles likely have an std or a kid.

And I've owned a few motorcycles

I bet side car gals are nice, clean, fun and only slightly less easy than the girls that dig reg bikes

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Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: FP TC etc. on April 27, 2012, 01:11:50 PM
The newer Kawasaki Ninja 250's are an excellent beginner bike. Plus they look cool, are cheap, and get excellent gas mileage.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: HELLHAMMER on April 27, 2012, 02:04:13 PM
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Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Skipper44 on April 27, 2012, 02:22:36 PM
I'm thinking about getting my first one soon. I don't know anything about motorcycles, other than they are dangerous (thanks mom). Any experienced riders on here want to give me some beginner tips on what to get, how to ride, what to do, etc. tips? I know I have to get a special license or whatever and plan on doing that this summer.

My main question is what is a good beginner type of bike?

tia
Have you never ridden any kind of motorcycle at all?  If so, I would suggest an old dual sport dirt bike.  Learning what happens when you lock up a wheel is a lot easier on the body and wallet in the dirt than pavement. 

Also, go here http://nm.msf-usa.org/msf/ridercourses.aspx (http://nm.msf-usa.org/msf/ridercourses.aspx) and find a course near you that provides bikes, it can't be beat for someone with little riding experience.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Not ITK on April 27, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
First, I recommend taking a motorcycle riding class.  You get your license when you complete the course and it's very informative.  Make sure you have all the recommended riding gear.  Depending on what type of bike (sport/cruiser/cafe) you are looking for, you will want to try out a few different ones.  Find one comfortable for you.  Also, I recommend starting out with a more timid engine, but don't be afraid of the bigger bikes as well.  If that's what is most comfortable to you and it's what you are wanting, go for it.  I started out on a Honda CBR1000, you just have to get used the bike and it's power. 
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: ben ji on April 27, 2012, 02:36:40 PM
Vespa scooters are great for beginners.

My buddy goes to Wash U in STL, had his vespa stolen 2 weeks ago. It was locked up but the guys just lifted it up and put it in the back of a pickup.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2012, 02:59:16 PM
Not ITK has to be a parody name, right.  I mean, that post seemed pretty ITK.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: michigancat on April 27, 2012, 03:02:41 PM
get an electric motorcycle and save the planet.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: J on April 27, 2012, 03:07:47 PM
get an electric motorcycle and save the planet.

No. Why would anyone do that? This is America ya hippie.

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

I'll probably get one of those huge rough ridin' Harleys and take the mufflers and the carburetor off and ride around on Harley day in a cloud of smoke while deafening people and staring you down just to spite this post.


(p.s. what do you look like?)
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: HELLHAMMER on April 27, 2012, 09:24:27 PM
get an electric motorcycle and save the planet.

No. Why would anyone do that? This is America ya hippie.

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

I'll probably get one of those huge rough ridin' Harleys and take the mufflers and the carburetor off and ride around on Harley day in a cloud of smoke while deafening people and staring you down just to spite this post.


(p.s. what do you look like?)

Amen ... Buy a Harley or Indian and stop giving a eff what people think.

All of the electric scooter, mower and Prius owners can go eff a watermelon.  America is a much better place when we are burning the crap out of dead dinosaurs. 

When I change the oil in anything, I use the waste oil as weed killer in fence rows just to piss off Al Gore and his rough ridin' Eco-Nazis.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Bloodfart on April 28, 2012, 02:11:50 PM
get an electric motorcycle and save the planet.

No. Why would anyone do that? This is America ya hippie.

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

I'll probably get one of those huge rough ridin' Harleys and take the mufflers and the carburetor off and ride around on Harley day in a cloud of smoke while deafening people and staring you down just to spite this post.


(p.s. what do you look like?)

I don't think you're going to make very far without a carb bub.  What evs  :cheers:
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2012, 02:22:05 PM
Amen ... Buy a Harley or Indian and stop giving a eff what people think.

Because nothing says "I don't care about my image" like buying a Harley. :lol:
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Bloodfart on April 28, 2012, 02:31:45 PM
Amen ... Buy a Harley or Indian and stop giving a eff what people think.

Because nothing says "I don't care about my image" like buying a Harley. :lol:

Lol at the thought of buying a harley to improve your image.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: star seed 7 on April 28, 2012, 04:38:17 PM
Amen ... Buy a Harley or Indian and stop giving a eff what people think.

Because nothing says "I don't care about my image" like buying a Harley. :lol:

Lol at the thought of buying a harley to improve your image.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Bloodfart on April 28, 2012, 09:58:09 PM
Amen ... Buy a Harley or Indian and stop giving a eff what people think.

Because nothing says "I don't care about my image" like buying a Harley. :lol:

Lol at the thought of buying a harley to improve your image.

 :facepalm:

:grin:
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: J on April 28, 2012, 11:44:39 PM
Amen ... Buy a Harley or Indian and stop giving a eff what people think.

Because nothing says "I don't care about my image" like buying a Harley. :lol:

Lol at the thought of buying a harley to improve your image.

 :facepalm:

:grin:
:dubious:
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 30, 2012, 12:58:11 PM
Something to consider before buying a motorcycle.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/04/30/calif-man-sues-bmw-for-persistent-erection/ (http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/04/30/calif-man-sues-bmw-for-persistent-erection/)
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: EuroCat on April 30, 2012, 05:40:09 PM
I have an SV650 back home in OP and love it. We have a very tortured relationship.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Bloodfart on April 30, 2012, 11:08:58 PM
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Has anyone here driven one of these?  Do motorcycle people make fun of these? 
Title: Re: Motorcycles
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Has anyone here driven one of these?  Do motorcycle people make fun of these?

I'm sure they do, but I think normal people make fun of motorcycle people enough to balance it out.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
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Has anyone here driven one of these?  Do motorcycle people make fun of these?

I'm sure they do, but I think normal people make fun of motorcycle people enough to balance it out.
which makes me wonder what type of people by these things
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 01, 2012, 09:56:09 AM
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Has anyone here driven one of these?  Do motorcycle people make fun of these?

I'm sure they do, but I think normal people make fun of motorcycle people enough to balance it out.
which makes me wonder what type of people by these things

Have you ever seen one on the road? I haven't. I'm not sure anybody actually buys them.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Skipper44 on May 01, 2012, 10:00:57 AM
I have seen a handful on the road but have yet to come across somebody arriving/about to leave in a parking lot so I can ask what it is like to ride one.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: CNS on May 01, 2012, 10:07:30 AM
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Has anyone here driven one of these?  Do motorcycle people make fun of these?

I'm sure they do, but I think normal people make fun of motorcycle people enough to balance it out.
which makes me wonder what type of people by these things

Have you ever seen one on the road? I haven't. I'm not sure anybody actually buys them.

I see them pretty often now. 

If I got a bike, this is what I would want.  Looks like it would be the best bike to text/tweet on and still be able to drive.   :dunno:

I like the idea of not having to pay as much attention. 
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: puniraptor on May 01, 2012, 10:37:36 AM
people who want a vehicle that handles like a car but still crave the risk of dying like on a motorcycle.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Skipper44 on May 01, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
people who want a vehicle that handles like a car but still crave the risk of dying like on a motorcycle.
yeah, it appears to combine a lot of the negatives of the two types of vehicles with only a few of the positives
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 01, 2012, 10:47:47 AM
people who want a vehicle that handles like a car but still crave the risk of dying like on a motorcycle.
yeah, it appears to combine a lot of the negatives of the two types of vehicles with only a few of the positives

pros

cons
Title: Re: Motorcycles
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Has anyone here driven one of these?  Do motorcycle people make fun of these?

if someone said, "hey, ok_cat, you have to be a stupid jackass hillbilly and buy a motorcycle" then I'd buy this thing. 
Title: Motorcycles
Post by: puniraptor on May 01, 2012, 12:10:45 PM
I occasionally get really amped about wanting a motorcycle then read a story or hear an anecdote of injury and death and puss out instantly. This probably happens 2 or 3 times a year
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: J on May 01, 2012, 12:15:06 PM
I occasionally get really amped about wanting a motorcycle then read a story or hear an anecdote of injury and death and puss out instantly. This probably happens 2 or 3 times a year

The don't call them "donorcycles" for nothing.

Pros outweigh the cons, though. Literally, all you have to say to a 10/10 supermodel is, "Look baby girl, I'm thinking about getting a motorcycle...". Before you finish your sentence, she cuts you off and is already naked. Instant game, fellas.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 01, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
I occasionally get really amped about wanting a motorcycle then read a story or hear an anecdote of injury and death and puss out instantly. This probably happens 2 or 3 times a year

The don't call them "donorcycles" for nothing.

Pros outweigh the cons, though. Literally, all you have to say to a 10/10 supermodel is, "Look baby girl, I'm thinking about getting a motorcycle...". Before you finish your sentence, she cuts you off and is already naked. Instant game, fellas.

If that's true, then why do you need to buy one?
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Bloodfart on May 01, 2012, 01:03:36 PM
I occasionally get really amped about wanting a motorcycle then read a story or hear an anecdote of injury and death and puss out instantly. This probably happens 2 or 3 times a year

The don't call them "donorcycles" for nothing.

Pros outweigh the cons, though. Literally, all you have to say to a 10/10 supermodel is, "Look baby girl, I'm thinking about getting a motorcycle...". Before you finish your sentence, she cuts you off and is already naked. Instant game, fellas.

If that's true, then why do you need to buy one?

J done blew his own mind.  You don't see that everyday, take note.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 01, 2012, 01:17:26 PM
Ive only seen fat, older people on those 3 wheeled ones fwiw
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: CNS on May 01, 2012, 02:07:08 PM
Ive only seen fat, older people on those 3 wheeled ones fwiw

The ones I have seen are about 50% split btwn fat/old and normal not old.  I imagine it has a lot to do with where you are seeing them.

Also, a large majority of the street bikes I see are in the same fat/old crowd.  :dunno:

I think before anyone buys a bike they should consider what they look like from the next car over's perspective.  I mean, a bike could be for men what pants that make a woman's ass look big are to women.
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: Skipper44 on May 01, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
people who want a vehicle that handles like a car but still crave the risk of dying like on a motorcycle.
yeah, it appears to combine a lot of the negatives of the two types of vehicles with only a few of the positives

pros
  • People with poor balance don't have to worry about falling over.
  • Great gas mileage.
  • Probably makes you feel like you are going really fast.

cons
  • It's not any safer than riding a motorcycle.
  • It doesn't look like it handles as well as a motorcycle.
  • You can't have thin skin because biker dorks will make fun of you.
  • You will still need to own a car if you don't like the idea of freezing your balls off in the winter or getting soaked whenever it rains.
that's a pretty good list but is missing two of the bigger cons, no lane splitting and reduced parking advantage

to me, this is the biggest one.  I assume most people who buy them have little to no riding experience and will not wear as much gear as they would on a normal motorcycle.  Same goes with scooters, it is remarkable that Pete was wearing a full face helmet on his, most scooter riders go with sunglasses and flip-flops.

Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: pissclams on May 01, 2012, 03:10:09 PM
do none of you downgrades watch eastbound and down?
Title: Re: Motorcycles
Post by: KITNfury on May 02, 2012, 12:02:14 PM
The first choice is what type of bike you want and go from there. Take the msf regardless of choice.