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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: paylor1970 on April 10, 2012, 08:47:37 AM
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Just a moment ago, being interviewed by Chris Allison on KGSO: ..."and we've got some size with Jordan Hernandez".
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:sdeek:
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I swear to God, at times his voice effortlessly strays into Bobcat Goldthwait territory.
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FLOORBURN U
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omg.
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Wow. how long until he hands out new names to the guys. Probs why Angel is taking so long. He isn't sure if he wants to go by Aaron or not.
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Now I see where the racist claims come from.
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What a dumb shazbot!.
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I hope they remove the names from our jerseys.
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This is going to end so badly for this jolly idiot.
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This is going to end so badly for this jolly idiot.
Just hope the damage doesn't take more than a few years to correct.
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I know this is just a bad dream. Will lol about the whole ordeal when i wake up
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This is going to end so badly for this jolly idiot.
Just hope the damage doesn't take more than a few years to correct.
Oh, it will burn our program to the ground.
It is so clear our idiot AD did no research in getting this simple dunce.
I want to shake this dumb hick until he realizes he needs to get his head out of his ass.
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#BurnItDown
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oscar :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid:
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Leave coach Webster alone. :bawl:
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i'm sure he was running on two hours of sleep and was rushed to the interview, guys.
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the best thing about weber is that he will contantly do stupid stuff like this and make it super easy for those of us that hate him to continue hating him while simultaneously allow us to make fun of the weber supporters. i really want something added under avatars that clearly state what side you're on and there are only two, pro and anti. no middle ground.
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the best thing about weber is that he will contantly do stupid stuff like this and make it super easy for those of us that hate him to continue hating him while simultaneously allow us to make fun of the weber supporters. i really want something added under avatars that clearly state what side you're on and there are only two, pro and anti. no middle ground.
what if i want to switch sides week to week?
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Will I get some sort of halo for being on the anti side?
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the best thing about weber is that he will contantly do stupid stuff like this and make it super easy for those of us that hate him to continue hating him while simultaneously allow us to make fun of the weber supporters. i really want something added under avatars that clearly state what side you're on and there are only two, pro and anti. no middle ground.
what if i want to switch sides week to week?
Yes this. Also can we be both? Just so I can be with the cool kids and the smart kids? tia
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Will I get some sort of halo for being on the anti side?
horns for antis and halos for pros would be kind of funny
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#teamhalo
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horns please
tia
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#teamhorns
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chicken nuggets for the pros
funerals for the antis
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chicken nuggets for the pros
funerals for the antis
that's a good one. like, little ice cream cone or casket under your name.
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Is this based on how you think things will go, or how you hope they will go?
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orange santa hats on people's avatars
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Dang, the Too Cool for Schoolers can really flip their faux edginess quickly.
Grats
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can we get a disassociated tag so Dax can feel better about himself?
ice cream cones for pro
casket for anti
two towers for disassociated
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Is this based on how you think things will go, or how you hope they will go?
How I know they will go.
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can we get a disassociated tag so Dax can feel better about himself?
ice cream cones for pro
casket for anti
two towers for disassociated
Only if the Towers have Kathead Laser Beam eyes
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get your horns up
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hook 'em
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That p in the middle of Gibson's name is going to cause loads of problems.
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That p in the middle of Gibson's name is going to cause loads of problems.
obviously
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There are plenty of legitimate talking points against both Weber and Lowry, namely the losses and offensive issues.
The talking points from "bad" radio interviews from either are ridiculous though. Both guys are selling what they are bringing to the program and that should be expected. Weber's interview was okay, I thought Lowry's was pretty good. He's made the best points I've heard yet in the necessity for next year's team to get to the FT line and the importance of the next recruiting class.
But I get that people want them gone now, and that's not likely going to change. It is what it is.
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Fan, are you going to cling to weber like you did wooly or have you learned your lesson?
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:fistpump:
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Fan, are you going to cling to weber like you did wooly or have you learned your lesson?
I've already said the lesson is learned, plus my knowledge of the game now is much higher.
The cautions that Rusty has thrown out there (over and over) and his point about mediocre coaches I get. I hear them. I listened.
All I am doing is giving Weber a shot. I will break down his games and his seasons just as I did for Frank. The stuff that is not good can't and won't hide and I'll call him and his staff on it. If his offense continues to truck along at 1.05 ppp or something mediocre like that and he proves he learned nothing from Illinois and the issues he had there especially offensively, I will be calling it out.
I get why many aren't going to give him any chance, but I won't do that.
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#team_FAN
*can we still fire john currie though?
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#team_FAN
*can we still fire john currie though?
I'm certain that Currie will get what he has earned in the long run.
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i really want something added under avatars that clearly state what side you're on and there are only two, pro and anti. no middle ground.
Must have.
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#team_FAN
*can we still fire john currie though?
I'm certain that Currie will get what he has earned in the long run.
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#team_FAN
*can we still fire john currie though?
I'm certain that Currie will get what he has earned in the long run.
A motorcycle and a hooker?
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But I get that people want them gone now, and that's not likely going to change. It is what it is.
If Weber leads KSU to the NCAA tournament the next 3 years I'm betting it will change dramatically. Agree though that is not likely.
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#team_FAN
*can we still fire john currie though?
I'm certain that Currie will get what he has earned in the long run.
A motorcycle and a hooker?
a cabela's gift card and clemson's next AD.
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But I get that people want them gone now, and that's not likely going to change. It is what it is.
If Weber leads KSU to the NCAA tournament the next 3 years I'm betting it will change dramatically. Agree though that is not likely.
if he couldn't lead a team with 9 top 100's ,included a seven foot soon to be first round draft pick, to the tournament during his last year at illinois, then why would anyone think that he'll lead a single team after next years team back to the tournament. also next year is in limbo when someone announces that angel rodriguez is not coming back, or as oscar likes to call him, angel hernandez.
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But I get that people want them gone now, and that's not likely going to change. It is what it is.
If Weber leads KSU to the NCAA tournament the next 3 years I'm betting it will change dramatically. Agree though that is not likely.
if he couldn't lead a team with 9 top 100's ,included a seven foot soon to be first round draft pick, to the tournament during his last year at illinois, then why would anyone think that he'll lead a single team after next years team back to the tournament. also next year is in limbo when someone announces that angel rodriguez is not coming back, or as oscar likes to call him, angel hernandez.
Angel Rodriguez-Roberts
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But I get that people want them gone now, and that's not likely going to change. It is what it is.
If Weber leads KSU to the NCAA tournament the next 3 years I'm betting it will change dramatically. Agree though that is not likely.
if he couldn't lead a team with 9 top 100's ,included a seven foot soon to be first round draft pick, to the tournament during his last year at illinois, then why would anyone think that he'll lead a single team after next years team back to the tournament. also next year is in limbo when someone announces that angel rodriguez is not coming back, or as oscar likes to call him, angel hernandez.
I don't understand how he'll all of a sudden be able to reach and motivate now in mhk either.
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There are plenty of legitimate talking points against both Weber and Lowry, namely the losses and offensive issues.
The talking points from "bad" radio interviews from either are ridiculous though. Both guys are selling what they are bringing to the program and that should be expected. Weber's interview was okay, I thought Lowry's was pretty good. He's made the best points I've heard yet in the necessity for next year's team to get to the FT line and the importance of the next recruiting class.
But I get that people want them gone now, and that's not likely going to change. It is what it is.
I reserve the right both to nitpick until he proves me wrong AND remind people he's a loser as long as people are saying we should give him a chance.
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There are plenty of legitimate talking points against both Weber and Lowry, namely the losses and offensive issues.
The talking points from "bad" radio interviews from either are ridiculous though. Both guys are selling what they are bringing to the program and that should be expected. Weber's interview was okay, I thought Lowry's was pretty good. He's made the best points I've heard yet in the necessity for next year's team to get to the FT line and the importance of the next recruiting class.
But I get that people want them gone now, and that's not likely going to change. It is what it is.
I reserve the right both to nitpick until he proves me wrong AND remind people he's a loser as long as people are saying we should give him a chance.
Fair enough, that right is absolutely yours. I can disagree with the ridiculous implications you take from radio interviews though.
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_Fan is going full-blown tuck on this Weber hire. Just can't help himself.
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There are plenty of legitimate talking points against both Weber and Lowry, namely the losses and offensive issues.
The talking points from "bad" radio interviews from either are ridiculous though. Both guys are selling what they are bringing to the program and that should be expected. Weber's interview was okay, I thought Lowry's was pretty good. He's made the best points I've heard yet in the necessity for next year's team to get to the FT line and the importance of the next recruiting class.
But I get that people want them gone now, and that's not likely going to change. It is what it is.
I reserve the right both to nitpick until he proves me wrong AND remind people he's a loser as long as people are saying we should give him a chance.
Fair enough, that right is absolutely yours. I can disagree with the ridiculous implications you take from radio interviews though.
To be fair, what exactly have I suggested that is ridiculous? Is it ridiculous to think this staff watched some tape, had a couple workouts, noticed the offense wasn't real "fluid", and decided they can coach offense better? Is it ridiculous to think Weber won't change anything from what he did at Illinois when I haven't heard him acknowledge a single thing he did wrong there?
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There are plenty of legitimate talking points against both Weber and Lowry, namely the losses and offensive issues.
The talking points from "bad" radio interviews from either are ridiculous though. Both guys are selling what they are bringing to the program and that should be expected. Weber's interview was okay, I thought Lowry's was pretty good. He's made the best points I've heard yet in the necessity for next year's team to get to the FT line and the importance of the next recruiting class.
But I get that people want them gone now, and that's not likely going to change. It is what it is.
I reserve the right both to nitpick until he proves me wrong AND remind people he's a loser as long as people are saying we should give him a chance.
Fair enough, that right is absolutely yours. I can disagree with the ridiculous implications you take from radio interviews though.
To be fair, what exactly have I suggested that is ridiculous? Is it ridiculous to think this staff watched some tape, had a couple workouts, noticed the offense wasn't real "fluid", and decided they can coach offense better? Is it ridiculous to think Weber won't change anything from what he did at Illinois when I haven't heard him acknowledge a single thing he did wrong there?
apparently you need to check your own twitter timeline.
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I think its a reach to say Lowry was trashing Frank and his offense. I think Lowry made a great point that one of the offensive keys is getting to the FT line next year.
I don't think Weber is great in these interviews, but I don't think he is as terrible as you are making him to be. I don't disagree that he could make some more concessions about the issues he had at Illinois, especially last year, but I also think he realizes his offense has to be better to win (and keep his job) at K-State. He's simply trying to sell himself in these things and some of his points aren't very good, but Frank had lots of terrible talking points too. Pretty much all coaches have terrible talking points at times when being interviewed.
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I think its a reach to say Lowry was trashing Frank and his offense. I think Lowry made a great point that one of the offensive keys is getting to the FT line next year.
I don't think he was trashing the offense, I just didn't think he sounded like he had a clue how good it really was. He specifically mentioned how they will create more easy baskets for the team (granted, he mentioned using turnovers to do this in addition to actual offense). I'm sorry if I don't have faith in the man with the 9th best offense in the Valley coming in and creating more easy baskets.
I don't think Weber is great in these interviews, but I don't think he is as terrible as you are making him to be. I don't disagree that he could make some more concessions about the issues he had at Illinois, especially last year, but I also think he realizes his offense has to be better to win (and keep his job) at K-State. He's simply trying to sell himself in these things and some of his points aren't very good, but Frank had lots of terrible talking points too. Pretty much all coaches have terrible talking points at times when being interviewed.
I haven't even commented on his "talking points", other than him claiming he had the best 9 year run in Illinois history. I really haven't.
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I think its a reach to say Lowry was trashing Frank and his offense. I think Lowry made a great point that one of the offensive keys is getting to the FT line next year.
I don't think Weber is great in these interviews, but I don't think he is as terrible as you are making him to be. I don't disagree that he could make some more concessions about the issues he had at Illinois, especially last year, but I also think he realizes his offense has to be better to win (and keep his job) at K-State. He's simply trying to sell himself in these things and some of his points aren't very good, but Frank had lots of terrible talking points too. Pretty much all coaches have terrible talking points at times when being interviewed.
I just don't think it's asking too much for Weber to actually know the names of the players on his own rough ridin' team. When he said "Jordan Hernandez" everything else he said ceased to matter.
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I just don't think it's asking too much for Weber to actually know the names of the players on his own rough ridin' team. When he said "Jordan Hernandez" everything else he said ceased to matter.
That was bad, no doubt. Bad immediate PR with K-State fans.
In the grand scheme of things for his career at K-State though? Meaningless.
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Who the hell is Chris Lowery to suggest they will be able to get easy bucket :sdeek:s when Martin couldn't?
At illinois the last 5 years we couldn't get those baskets. We averaged less than one fastbreak a month.
You can already see the signs of Weber's demise. You don't want the kinds of recruits who will play for someone who can't care enough to learn their name.
But Weber's friends and family think he's a great coach. So he's got that going for him.
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can't wait until the oscar Weber show with Wyatt begins :barf:
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That was bad, no doubt. Bad immediate PR with K-State fans.
In the grand scheme of things for his career at K-State though? Meaningless.
Would you say he is establishing a trend of bad PR in dealing with the media? I think there is a track record in this regard. Another layer of oscar being oscar. He's going to suck in interviews, or when he doesn't completely suck he will never be captivating or noteworthy. We knew he was never going to have Frank presence, but I think we've gone to one of the worst public speaking BCS college head coaches (at least that I've heard). I mean look at you in this thread _FAN. You're treating him like the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) kid down the block. Throwing compliments his way for speaking somewhat coherently.
Do you really believe oscar's dealings with the media have no bearing (are no indication) of what kind of coach he is/will be?
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Yeah, but we got to the f-ing FT line at will, bro. Wait....
Who the hell is Chris Lowery to suggest they will be able to get easy bucket :sdeek:s when Martin couldn't?
At illinois the last 5 years we couldn't get those baskets. We averaged less than one fastbreak a month.
You can already see the signs of Weber's demise. You don't want the kinds of recruits who will play for someone who can't care enough to learn their name.
But Weber's friends and family think he's a great coach. So he's got that going for him.
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I just don't think it's asking too much for Weber to actually know the names of the players on his own rough ridin' team. When he said "Jordan Hernandez" everything else he said ceased to matter.
That was bad, no doubt. Bad immediate PR with K-State fans.
In the grand scheme of things for his career at K-State though? Meaningless.
yeah. i'm sure a top returning senior on the team, that had met with his new head coach multiple times, loved having his actual name substituted with a different name. that inspires confidence. at least he got jordan right and didn't call him miguel.
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:flush:
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can't wait until the oscar Weber show with Wyatt begins :barf:
I think it will be great radio (depending on your perspective). I'll get some great laughs out of it. Mainly the callers.
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This hire feels like my kid ran off and got married at a courthouse or in Vegas...can't get comfortable that it happened, or that it will work.
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I just want to say that this place is a lot more fun to read when Rusty and Daris share your viewpoint. Also glad there are enough retards on here to keep them posting. #teamhorns
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im going to call in and complain about his use of profanity on the sidelines. It's going to be awesome.
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The KGSO afternoon guys re-aired the morning interview. I missed it initially, but he also referred to "Muh-tavious". Maybe I'm nitpicking, but it absolutely boggles my mind that he's this lackluster in attention to detail in memorizing simple NAMES of "his" players, all the while speaking of "earning the respect of the players by showing you care" within the same interview. What a fece-face.
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The KGSO afternoon guys re-aired the morning interview. I missed it initially, but he also referred to "Muh-tavious". Maybe I'm nitpicking, but it absolutely boggles my mind that he's this lackluster in attention to detail in memorizing simple NAMES of "his" players, all the while speaking of "earning the respect of the players by showing you care" within the same interview. What a fece-face.
"Muh-tavious" is like Frank saying "As-per-illa". Mispronouncing really isn't that big of a deal. Replacing a last name with a completely different last name is pretty bad, though.
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can't wait until the oscar Weber show with Wyatt begins :barf:
I think it will be great radio (depending on your perspective). I'll get some great laughs out of it. Mainly the callers.
John from Marysville and his 72 daughters will be big fans.
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This place has gotten so depressing around here lately. FYJC. :goodbyecruelworld:
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This place has gotten so depressing around here lately. FYJC. :goodbyecruelworld:
Gonna be a rough summer unless we pick up an awesome recruit or mystrans.
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This place has gotten so depressing around here lately. FYJC. :goodbyecruelworld:
Gonna be a rough summer unless we pick up an awesome recruit or mystrans.
Yep. Howard or bust.
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This place has gotten so depressing around here lately. FYJC. :goodbyecruelworld:
Gonna be a rough summer unless we pick up an awesome recruit or mystrans.
http://youtu.be/MPNhV1gF008?t=49s (http://youtu.be/MPNhV1gF008?t=49s)
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http://youtu.be/MPNhV1gF008?t=49s (http://youtu.be/MPNhV1gF008?t=49s)
I'm hoping for this though
http://youtu.be/lAfpkSAyJ1Y?t=43s (http://youtu.be/lAfpkSAyJ1Y?t=43s)
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Lolz
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The cut of oscar's jib ftw.