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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: scoops callahan on March 31, 2012, 04:10:45 PM
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
People like you are the reason K-State will always shoot for mediocrity.
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Cool, I am going to get to turn loose our ban happy mods.
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Come on. We know how this ends, Scoopsy.
We've been SLTH'd. Hard.
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
Hate him now....NOW!
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Things Webee must do to receive consideration for support :
Land a better recruit than upshaw
Lose no good players
Improve upon last years record
If he fails any of these it's a horrible hire
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Guys stop. Weber is a great guy, he needs our support.
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Guys stop. Weber is a great guy, he needs our support.
He will get absolutely none from me.
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I'll support him! That is, if he turns into a good coach. NOW.
Of course, if he turns into a good coach, he won't be oscar Weber. So then...technically...I won't support him, I'll support a good coach.
My head hurts. First we got Frank'd, then we got Curried...now it feels like the Matrix. Which color pill is the option for, "Screw it, I'll stay asleep" again? :chainsaw:
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Guys stop. Weber is a great guy, he needs our support.
On one hand, this is such an illogical request that I can't believe you're serious. On the other hand, it's not rough ridin' funny either. No clue how to react.
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No.
For the first time in my adult life I will not renew my tickets. Since 2000 I have watched us claw out of the cellar. I can't watch the return trip.
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Guys stop. Weber is a great guy, he needs our support.
Well, he's not going to get it. He's just going to have to find another way
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I'm with you scoopsy. I'm a fan of Kansas State and I will always cheer for them. I can't predict the future so at this point I'll wait and see how this works out... Much less stressful than melting down.
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Guys stop. Weber is a great guy, he needs our support.
reverse trolling
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I'm with you scoopsy. I'm a fan of Kansas State and I will always cheer for them. I can't predict the future so at this point I'll wait and see how this works out... Much less stressful than melting down.
If you want to show your disgust without hating the Cats I suggest just acting like they don't exist. No tickets, no tv, when local radio talks us hoops change the station, remove the basketball section of goEMAW. We have to act like ksu basketball doesn't exist and that shouldn't be too hard because ksu basketball no longer exist.
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Mods!
Please change the thread title the thought physically disgusts me.
Thx
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I'm with you scoopsy. I'm a fan of Kansas State and I will always cheer for them. I can't predict the future so at this point I'll wait and see how this works out... Much less stressful than melting down.
If you want to show your disgust without hating the Cats I suggest just acting like they don't exist. No tickets, no tv, when local radio talks us hoops change the station, remove the basketball section of goEMAW. We have to act like ksu basketball doesn't exist and that shouldn't be too hard because ksu basketball no longer exist.
I think this is a great idea
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If you are going to support any fucknut they trot out at the press conference, you deserve this.
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Well, they can't really fire him now. They'd owe him almost 9 million bucks. Might as well support him.
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The quicker the fan base stops supporting the basketball program the quicker we can get rid of him. There is only 2 positive outcomes going forward He sucks really bad really fast and he gets the boot, or he is really good really fast. Anything else means 5+ years of mediocrity. He's not capable of the latter.
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Why do you all want to get rid of him though? You guys dont know what he can do with this program. Okay, he had a few bad seasons with Illinois but look at his players. I will fully support him til we have a bad season.
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Will you support him if half the team leaves?
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Why do you all want to get rid of him though? You guys dont know what he can do with this program. Okay, he had a few bad seasons with Illinois but look at his players. I will fully support him til we have a bad season.
What do you mean "but look at his players?"
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I'm with you scoopsy. I'm a fan of Kansas State and I will always cheer for them. I can't predict the future so at this point I'll wait and see how this works out... Much less stressful than melting down.
If you want to show your disgust without hating the Cats I suggest just acting like they don't exist. No tickets, no tv, when local radio talks us hoops change the station, remove the basketball section of goEMAW. We have to act like ksu basketball doesn't exist and that shouldn't be too hard because ksu basketball no longer exist.
No can do man. I love em too much
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
Just go away!
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
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I support our players.
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Will you support him if half the team leaves?
No. The whole team supposedly likes him so I don't think that'll be the case.
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Need more PI in this thread.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Players seem excited about oscar Weber. Will Spradling said he is coming back. Jordan Henriquez says everyone else is, too.
^If this tweet is true I support Weber, we have a good team coming back next year (if they stay). oscar has a very good opportunity in front of him if everyone stays. I wonder if JO knows if Angel is going to stay.
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Need more PI in this thread.
Ya, have been holding off.
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
I support K-State. Yeah it doesn't make sense, that's the point. If the guy sucks then I'll be calling for his head but I can't see the future.
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Will you support him if half the team leaves?
No. The whole team supposedly likes him so I don't think that'll be the case.
Now you're just making crap up. None of the freshmen have even met him. Just rough ridin' stop.
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Simply supporting Weber because he's now our coach is exactly the reason we have someone like Weber now as our head coach.
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Will you support him if half the team leaves?
No. The whole team supposedly likes him so I don't think that'll be the case.
Now you're just making crap up. None of the freshmen have even met him. Just rough ridin' stop.
False.
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
I support K-State. Yeah it doesn't make sense, that's the point. If the guy sucks then I'll be calling for his head but I can't see the future.
The best way to support K-State is to let the administration know this bullshit won't be tolerated and make sure it doesn't happen again. John Currie and oscar Webber are not K-State.
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Scoops has to be trollin' right?
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Scoops has to be trollin' right?
You rough ridin' betcha squawk. :blah:
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
I support K-State. Yeah it doesn't make sense, that's the point. If the guy sucks then I'll be calling for his head but I can't see the future.
The best way to support K-State is to let the administration know this bullshit won't be tolerated and make sure it doesn't happen again. John Currie and oscar Webber are not K-State.
I'm not saying its a great hire or a shitty hire. I'm just gonna see what happens before I melt down, that's all. If in 2 years emaw basketball sucks then I'll be just as irate as everyone is today.
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
I support K-State. Yeah it doesn't make sense, that's the point. If the guy sucks then I'll be calling for his head but I can't see the future.
The best way to support K-State is to let the administration know this bullshit won't be tolerated and make sure it doesn't happen again. John Currie and oscar Webber are not K-State.
I'm not saying its a great hire or a shitty hire. I'm just gonna see what happens before I melt down, that's all. If in 2 years emaw basketball sucks then I'll be just as irate as everyone is today.
Exactly. I hate how everyone is bitching about the hire and he's never coached a game for KState yet. Give him a chance and let him prove himself before you all flip crap.
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Scoops has to be trollin' right?
You rough ridin' betcha squawk. :blah:
Heh. Guess not. goEMAW must be beaten down. Just a few weeks ago this tuck would have been PI'd to death.
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
I support K-State. Yeah it doesn't make sense, that's the point. If the guy sucks then I'll be calling for his head but I can't see the future.
The best way to support K-State is to let the administration know this bullshit won't be tolerated and make sure it doesn't happen again. John Currie and oscar Webber are not K-State.
I'm not saying its a great hire or a shitty hire. I'm just gonna see what happens before I melt down, that's all. If in 2 years emaw basketball sucks then I'll be just as irate as everyone is today.
Exactly. I hate how everyone is bitching about the hire and he's never coached a game for KState yet. Give him a chance and let him prove himself before you all flip crap.
Hey dumbass, I know you're a dumbass and all but nobody needs to see him coach a game at K-State. He has proven he is a loser at the D1 level for the past 6 years. But don't expect to not get called a dumbass in the process. GTFOOH with that "wait and see" garbage.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Players seem excited about oscar Weber. Will Spradling said he is coming back. Jordan Henriquez says everyone else is, too.
^If this tweet is true I support Weber, we have a good team coming back next year (if they stay). oscar has a very good opportunity in front of him if everyone stays. I wonder if JO knows if Angel is going to stay.
what the eff is JO spose to say "naw dude half us boyz are leaving"
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
I support K-State. Yeah it doesn't make sense, that's the point. If the guy sucks then I'll be calling for his head but I can't see the future.
The best way to support K-State is to let the administration know this bullshit won't be tolerated and make sure it doesn't happen again. John Currie and oscar Webber are not K-State.
I'm not saying its a great hire or a shitty hire. I'm just gonna see what happens before I melt down, that's all. If in 2 years emaw basketball sucks then I'll be just as irate as everyone is today.
Exactly. I hate how everyone is bitching about the hire and he's never coached a game for KState yet. Give him a chance and let him prove himself before you all flip crap.
Hey dumbass, I know you're a dumbass and all but nobody needs to see him coach a game at K-State. He has proven he is a loser at the D1 level for the past 6 years. But don't expect to not get called a dumbass in the process. GTFOOH with that "wait and see" garbage.
Okay, come back and talk to me next March.
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like _33 just said, there is no need to wait and see. the next five (5!) years are going to be insanely painful. imagine wooly, but older and not as likeable. we are not going to be good. people might think we are decent though because he'll schedule his ass off to make sure that we get tons of ooc wins. there are no words to describe how quickly and efficiently john currie just destroyed the entire basketball program.
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like _33 just said, there is no need to wait and see. the next five (5!) years are going to be insanely painful. imagine wooly, but older and not as likeable. we are not going to be good. people might think we are decent though because he'll schedule his ass off to make sure that we get tons of ooc wins. there are no words to describe how quickly and efficiently john currie just destroyed the entire basketball program.
but weber will have something to burn down, wooly had nothing to burn down but a rain drenched rough ridin' cat turd
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I dealt with so many "scoops" during KU the Turner Gill tenure at KU. Anybody with a brain and some eyeballs could see that guy was going abject failure, but many regurgitate "give him 2 years" or "look at these great assistants"
The thing I learned is the "scoops" when they turn. Turn hard. It gets ugly.
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BOY OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT FOR 32-35 GAMES
at least we will have some out of bounds plays right?!
I BET WE SHOOT FTs BETTER TOO
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I dealt with so many "scoops" during KU the Turner Gill tenure at KU. Anybody with a brain and some eyeballs could see that guy was going abject failure, but many regurgitate "give him 2 years" or "look at these great assistants"
The thing I learned is the "scoops" when they turn. Turn hard. It gets ugly.
So you knew he was going to fail three hours after he got hired?
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Wow, unexpectedly a fantastic tuck outing thread. eff you two.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Players seem excited about oscar Weber. Will Spradling said he is coming back. Jordan Henriquez says everyone else is, too.
^If this tweet is true I support Weber, we have a good team coming back next year (if they stay). oscar has a very good opportunity in front of him if everyone stays. I wonder if JO knows if Angel is going to stay.
what the eff is JO spose to say "naw dude half us boyz are leaving"
That is why I said if it is true, then I will support Weber.
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I dealt with so many "scoops" during KU the Turner Gill tenure at KU. Anybody with a brain and some eyeballs could see that guy was going abject failure, but many regurgitate "give him 2 years" or "look at these great assistants"
The thing I learned is the "scoops" when they turn. Turn hard. It gets ugly.
So you knew he was going to fail three hours after he got hired?
Try 30 seconds after he was hired.
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come on GFA everyone knew Gill was doomed from the start. His bullshit may play at Buffalo but not a real school that plays other real schools
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
Ron Zook, hell we can replace Deb with Jolette Law too because their new super undouche AD came in, saw pretty much meh across the board and cleaned house. I love that guy.
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I'm not saying its a great hire or a shitty hire. I'm just gonna see what happens before I melt down, that's all. If in 2 years emaw basketball sucks then I'll be just as irate as everyone is today.
So, you want to wait to see if he repeats his failure at Illinios? The early success with another guy's players, followed by a losing conference record?
I'd prefer to not wait for that.
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I love you all. But seriously, give the guy a chance no matter what his background is. The hire could've been much worse, and honestly I don't think a much better coach would've came here maybe a little better coach but not a much much better one. If that made any sense, lol.
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
I support K-State. Yeah it doesn't make sense, that's the point. If the guy sucks then I'll be calling for his head but I can't see the future.
The best way to support K-State is to let the administration know this bullshit won't be tolerated and make sure it doesn't happen again. John Currie and oscar Webber are not K-State.
I'm not saying its a great hire or a shitty hire. I'm just gonna see what happens before I melt down, that's all. If in 2 years emaw basketball sucks then I'll be just as irate as everyone is today.
Exactly. I hate how everyone is bitching about the hire and he's never coached a game for KState yet. Give him a chance and let him prove himself before you all flip crap.
Hey dumbass, I know you're a dumbass and all but nobody needs to see him coach a game at K-State. He has proven he is a loser at the D1 level for the past 6 years. But don't expect to not get called a dumbass in the process. GTFOOH with that "wait and see" garbage.
Okay, come back and talk to me next March.
Next year proves absolutely nothing. Unless half the team leaves because they don't want to play for Weber, next year's team should be expected to make at least a sweet 16 and anything less than a making the 2nd round should be considered a dissapointment. The only way next season could influence me towards liking this hire is at least a final 4 and some indication of building a future (solid recruiting, solid coaching staff).
As a BCS program that has won a game in each of the last 3 NCAA tournaments and has shown a commitment to improving facilities we should not be forced to wait and see on a coach like Weber. I'd have been willing to wait and see on a gamble (like we did with Huggs and Frank, and could have done with Gottlieb) that would have brought a face and and an image to our program. Weber doesn't do that. Weber doesn't excite the fanbase, it doesn't excite the media, and it doesn't excite potential recruits.
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Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Players seem excited about oscar Weber. Will Spradling said he is coming back. Jordan Henriquez says everyone else is, too.
^If this tweet is true I support Weber, we have a good team coming back next year (if they stay). oscar has a very good opportunity in front of him if everyone stays. I wonder if JO knows if Angel is going to stay.
what the eff is JO spose to say "naw dude half us boyz are leaving"
That is why I said if it is true, then I will support Weber.
:thumbs:
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This might be a stretch but Bob Gottlieb (Doug's dad) help get oscar Weber his 1st coaching job at Western Kentucky. What if Weber puts Doug on his coaching staff?
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This might be a stretch but Bob Gottlieb (Doug's dad) help get oscar Weber his 1st coaching job at Western Kentucky. What if Weber puts Doug on his coaching staff?
What if I had a unicorn that gave blow jobs?
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This might be a stretch but Bob Gottlieb (Doug's dad) help get oscar Weber his 1st coaching job at Western Kentucky. What if Weber puts Doug on his coaching staff?
Gots doesn't want or needs a paycut. dude wouldnt get enough TV time
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This might be a stretch but Bob Gottlieb (Doug's dad) help get oscar Weber his 1st coaching job at Western Kentucky. What if Weber puts Doug on his coaching staff?
WavetheWheat pointed out that on the most exciting day in college basketball every year that Doug hasn't been tweeting much so that's kinda good, maybe a deal going down?
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As I said earlier. Twitter machine gun Gottlieb has not sent a tweet all day on the biggest hoops day of the year.
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This thread is why we can't have nice things. Our fans are swayed by completely awful press conferences apparently.
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This might be a stretch but Bob Gottlieb (Doug's dad) help get oscar Weber his 1st coaching job at Western Kentucky. What if Weber puts Doug on his coaching staff?
Gots doesn't want or needs a paycut. dude wouldnt get enough TV time
It'll be easier for him to get a head coaching job in a few years though if he starts as a AC
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This might be a stretch but Bob Gottlieb (Doug's dad) help get oscar Weber his 1st coaching job at Western Kentucky. What if Weber puts Doug on his coaching staff?
Gots doesn't want or needs a paycut. dude wouldnt get enough TV time
It'll be easier for him to get a head coaching job in a few years though if he starts as a AC
we landed on the moon!!!! no crap capt obvious, but why isn't he one already then?
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This might be a stretch but Bob Gottlieb (Doug's dad) help get oscar Weber his 1st coaching job at Western Kentucky. What if Weber puts Doug on his coaching staff?
Gots doesn't want or needs a paycut. dude wouldnt get enough TV time
It'll be easier for him to get a head coaching job in a few years though if he starts as a AC
we landed on the moon!!!! no crap capt obvious, but why isn't he one already then?
Don't ask me, ask Doug.
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I'm not saying its a great hire or a shitty hire. I'm just gonna see what happens before I melt down, that's all. If in 2 years emaw basketball sucks then I'll be just as irate as everyone is today.
So, you want to wait to see if he repeats his failure at Illinios? The early success with another guy's players, followed by a losing conference record?
I'd prefer to not wait for that.
If ksu hoops was real thing and they had BW as HC this is the exact scenario that would play out.
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This might be a stretch but Bob Gottlieb (Doug's dad) help get oscar Weber his 1st coaching job at Western Kentucky. What if Weber puts Doug on his coaching staff?
What if I had a unicorn that gave blow jobs?
Teeth or no teeth?
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This might be a stretch but Bob Gottlieb (Doug's dad) help get oscar Weber his 1st coaching job at Western Kentucky. What if Weber puts Doug on his coaching staff?
What if I had a unicorn that gave blow jobs?
I would say you could probably make some $$$$.
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I love you all. But seriously, give the guy a chance no matter what his background is. The hire could've been much worse, and honestly I don't think a much better coach would've came here maybe a little better coach but not a much much better one. If that made any sense, lol.
Would you be saying the same thing if we'd brought back Jim Wooldridge? What if we had hired Bob Chipman? What if Deb Patterson took over the men's team? Is there any hire shitty enough to piss you off?
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scoops and other guy who is not important enough for me to remember his name:
first off, eff the both of you. Because of douchebags like you, we're stuck in these positions. the "wait and see" attitude would be valid except for the fact that we have a track record of the stupid bad person. he's going to suck. we'll be hovering around .500 in conference play in a good year, and we'll host a few NIT games at best.
instead of acting like self important assholes, why don't you use your love for kstate for good, and let the administration know that you aren't accepting this shitstorm.
eat a bag of dicks, scoop.
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Yeah, that.
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I love you all. But seriously, give the guy a chance no matter what his background is. The hire could've been much worse, and honestly I don't think a much better coach would've came here maybe a little better coach but not a much much better one. If that made any sense, lol.
Would you be saying the same thing if we'd brought back Jim Wooldridge? What if we had hired Bob Chipman? What if Deb Patterson took over the men's team? Is there any hire shitty enough to piss you off?
Of course. If we hired any of those 3 I would be furious just like most of you guys.. however I feel like oscar has some upside and can really do some good things. A bunch of stories on the internet have been saying its a good hire for kstate too. I don't know what most of you people mad are thinking but I'm sure you guys will be Weber fans real quick!
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scoops and other guy who is not important enough for me to remember his name:
first off, eff the both of you. Because of douchebags like you, we're stuck in these positions. the "wait and see" attitude would be valid except for the fact that we have a track record of the stupid bad person. he's going to suck. we'll be hovering around .500 in conference play in a good year, and we'll host a few NIT games at best.
instead of acting like self important assholes, why don't you use your love for kstate for good, and let the administration know that you aren't accepting this shitstorm.
eat a bag of dicks, scoop.
Woah, I thought we were friends OK :cry: and honestly there is nothing we can do about the hire anymore, I wish we could go back and hire Gottlieb but there is nothing we can do. Currie isn't going to fire him before the season starts because a bunch of you guys are cussing and hating on him on twitter, sorry but its not going to happen.
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I love you all. But seriously, give the guy a chance no matter what his background is. The hire could've been much worse, and honestly I don't think a much better coach would've came here maybe a little better coach but not a much much better one. If that made any sense, lol.
Would you be saying the same thing if we'd brought back Jim Wooldridge? What if we had hired Bob Chipman? What if Deb Patterson took over the men's team? Is there any hire shitty enough to piss you off?
Of course. If we hired any of those 3 I would be furious just like most of you guys.. however I feel like oscar has some upside and can really do some good things. A bunch of stories on the internet have been saying its a good hire for kstate too. I don't know what most of you people mad are thinking but I'm sure you guys will be Weber fans real quick!
We're mad because he was just fired for being mediocre at Illinois. But, I guess cause a bunch of internet stories say so he must be great.
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scoops after being abused by his gay lover: "i'm sorry, oscar, i didn't mean to hit your fist with my face! it won't happen again"
eff off, dumbass. nobody thinks that currie will fire weber. it's bigger than that.
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scoops after being abused by his gay lover: "i'm sorry, oscar, i didn't mean to hit your fist with my face! it won't happen again"
eff off, dumbass. nobody thinks that currie will fire weber. it's bigger than that.
What if we can get Currie fired before next season starts :surprised:. What if the new AD comes in and immediately fires Weber and names Dougie interim HC.
Let's do this guys :emawkid:
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scoops and other guy who is not important enough for me to remember his name:
first off, eff the both of you. Because of douchebags like you, we're stuck in these positions. the "wait and see" attitude would be valid except for the fact that we have a track record of the stupid bad person. he's going to suck. we'll be hovering around .500 in conference play in a good year, and we'll host a few NIT games at best.
instead of acting like self important assholes, why don't you use your love for kstate for good, and let the administration know that you aren't accepting this shitstorm.
eat a bag of dicks, scoop.
Woah, I thought we were friends OK :cry: and honestly there is nothing we can do about the hire anymore, I wish we could go back and hire Gottlieb but there is nothing we can do. Currie isn't going to fire him before the season starts because a bunch of you guys are cussing and hating on him on twitter, sorry but its not going to happen.
Scoops, you are the new guy in prison that takes it in the ass his first day in, but instead of taking measures so it doesn't happen again, figures, "hell, my ass cherry is gone, nothing I can do about that now", and starts wearing mascara and dropping the soap in the shower. John Currie is going to eff you in the ass with every hire he makes.
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scoops after being abused by his gay lover: "i'm sorry, oscar, i didn't mean to hit your fist with my face! it won't happen again"
eff off, dumbass. nobody thinks that currie will fire weber. it's bigger than that.
What if we can get Currie fired before next season starts :surprised:. What if the new AD comes in and immediately fires Weber and names Dougie interim HC.
Let's do this guys :emawkid:
I'm all in on that.. what can I do to help?
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scoops after being abused by his gay lover: "i'm sorry, oscar, i didn't mean to hit your fist with my face! it won't happen again"
eff off, dumbass. nobody thinks that currie will fire weber. it's bigger than that.
What if we can get Currie fired before next season starts :surprised:. What if the new AD comes in and immediately fires Weber and names Dougie interim HC.
Let's do this guys :emawkid:
I'm all in on that.. what can I do to help?
first step: stop being a bitch
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Guys, there has to be a timing sweet spot where we keep currie long enough so that he can raise enough funds to buy out oscar and cut them both loose so we don't have to fire currie and be stuck with dumbstick due to buyout issues.
Need to plug that crap in the CHIRP to see what that timing is and start the motion.
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good god, scoops. it's like you're just pushing me right into the arms of #teamLuke
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The realistic side of things- he's our coach and that won't change for at least 2 years. Also, it's not like he's gonna turn down this job. Not his fault.
Also realistic- Currie needs to find a new employer asap. It's vital he is gone before Snyder.
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good god, scoops. it's like you're just pushing me right into the arms of #teamLuke
That's fine. If you wanna jump on #teamluke because of my opinion on Weber thats fine. Sorry I don't side with you. Hope you're still #teamscoops. #teamscoops over everything
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If at least for anything, go cheer on the student athletes and players. They deserve it. Especially Rodney, Martavious and JO
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Cheer them from home or if you must go to the OOS, cheer them while holding a giant sign that says "CURRIE: GTFO"
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Everyone has their opinions. I don't care if you're unhappy with the hire. Just saying my piece.
I'm not thrilled about it, but I don't have enough information to make the call right now.
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Everyone has their opinions. I don't care if you're unhappy with the hire. Just saying my piece.
I'm not thrilled about it, but I don't have enough information to make the call right now.
go eff yourself, dumbass.
2007–08 Illinois 16–19 5–13 T–9th
2008–09 Illinois 24–10 11–7 T–2nd NCAA 1st Round
2009–10 Illinois 21–15 10–8 5th NIT Quarterfinals
2010–11 Illinois 20–14 9–9 T–4th NCAA 2nd Round
2011–12 Illinois 17–15 6–12 9th
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I don't have enough information to make the call right now.
:dubious:
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Everyone has their opinions. I don't care if you're unhappy with the hire. Just saying my piece.
I'm not thrilled about it, but I don't have enough information to make the call right now.
go eff yourself, dumbass.
2007–08 Illinois 16–19 5–13 T–9th
2008–09 Illinois 24–10 11–7 T–2nd NCAA 1st Round
2009–10 Illinois 21–15 10–8 5th NIT Quarterfinals
2010–11 Illinois 20–14 9–9 T–4th NCAA 2nd Round
2011–12 Illinois 17–15 6–12 9th
He is going to be a trainwreck in the Big 12. Maybe we can split TCU and TT...
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I dealt with so many "scoops" during KU the Turner Gill tenure at KU. Anybody with a brain and some eyeballs could see that guy was going abject failure, but many regurgitate "give him 2 years" or "look at these great assistants"
The thing I learned is the "scoops" when they turn. Turn hard. It gets ugly.
So you knew he was going to fail three hours after he got hired?
Everyone here did.
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Bill self wears a wig?
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Cheer them from home or if you must go to the OOS, cheer them while holding a giant sign that says "CURRIE: GTFO"
THAT'S IT!!! Let's fill the OOD every home game and wave giant FYJC signs. Look at how effective this would be, you know with national network exposure... especially during Game Day. :ksu:
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Cheer them from home or if you must go to the OOS, cheer them while holding a giant sign that says "CURRIE: GTFO"
THAT'S IT!!! Let's fill the OOD every home game and wave giant FYJC signs. Look at how effective this would be, you know with national network exposure... especially during Game Day. :ksu:
We will all be dead before Gameday ever comes back to Manhattan.
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I will support oscar Weber if he brings in a badassmotherfucker recruiter.
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I will support oscar Weber if he brings in a badassmotherfucker recruiter.
THIS
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Everyone has their opinions. I don't care if you're unhappy with the hire. Just saying my piece.
I'm not thrilled about it, but I don't have enough information to make the call right now.
go eff yourself, dumbass.
2007–08 Illinois 16–19 5–13 T–9th
2008–09 Illinois 24–10 11–7 T–2nd NCAA 1st Round
2009–10 Illinois 21–15 10–8 5th NIT Quarterfinals
2010–11 Illinois 20–14 9–9 T–4th NCAA 2nd Round
2011–12 Illinois 17–15 6–12 9th
I'm not sure why you're so angry that I don't agree with you. Have a great night!
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i don't care if you agree, but you act like you don't have access to his history. once self's players left, he sucked.
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Everyone has their opinions. I don't care if you're unhappy with the hire. Just saying my piece.
I'm not thrilled about it, but I don't have enough information to make the call right now.
go eff yourself, dumbass.
2007–08 Illinois 16–19 5–13 T–9th
2008–09 Illinois 24–10 11–7 T–2nd NCAA 1st Round
2009–10 Illinois 21–15 10–8 5th NIT Quarterfinals
2010–11 Illinois 20–14 9–9 T–4th NCAA 2nd Round
2011–12 Illinois 17–15 6–12 9th
I'm not sure why you're so angry that I don't agree with you. Have a great night!
You are supposed to say "have a great night, boys"
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I will support oscar Weber if he brings in a badassmotherfucker recruiter.
THIS
Way to go Scoops, winning them over one goemawer at a time. :fatty:
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I will support oscar Weber if he brings in a badassmotherfucker recruiter.
THIS
Way to go Scoops, winning them over one goemawer at a time. :fatty:
I said IF. easy there
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I will support oscar Weber if he brings in a badassmotherfucker recruiter.
THIS
Way to go Scoops, winning them over one goemawer at a time. :fatty:
I said IF. easy there
Yes, but this is a fun thread to read. Kind of like when we got OB back. :party:
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i don't care if you agree, but you act like you don't have access to his history. once self's players left, he sucked.
I dunno man. I hear what you're saying. I'm just waiting to see what happens with the staff, recruiting, and a season or two of watching us play under Weber before I melt down. Does that make sense? Idk
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I will support oscar Weber if he brings in a badassmotherfucker recruiter.
THIS
Way to go Scoops, winning them over one goemawer at a time. :fatty:
:love:
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i don't care if you agree, but you act like you don't have access to his history. once self's players left, he sucked.
I dunno man. I hear what you're saying. I'm just waiting to see what happens with the staff, recruiting, and a season or two of watching us play under Weber before I melt down. Does that make sense? Idk
Perfect sense. I agree 100%
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i don't care if you agree, but you act like you don't have access to his history. once self's players left, he sucked.
I dunno man. I hear what you're saying. I'm just waiting to see what happens with the staff, recruiting, and a season or two of watching us play under Weber before I melt down. Does that make sense? Idk
I dunno either, seems like Self been gone for nine years. If the '10-'11 team when to NCAA, the only way those were Self left overs would have been because they were 5th yr seniors for about four times? :dunno:
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oscar Weber is a SLTH.
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oscar Weber is a good man. He's classy, he's honest to a fault, and he's a damn fine basketball mind. He brought Illinois to their best performance ever. He didn't suddenly forget how to coach.
He was the victim of many unfortunate incidents with players getting into trouble off the court, the Eric Gordon fiasco, bad luck with injury after injury, and players that simply weren't as good as advertised or were lazy and didn't want to improve.
He was also railroaded by legions of entitled spoiled fans that surrounded him with nothing but negativity the entire time he was there.
And this mantra that he only won with Bill Self's recruits is hogwash. First off, Self got worse every year he was at Illinois, and secondly he showed what a great coach he truly is with the 08-09 team that finished 2nd in the Big Ten after a losing season. That team came out of nowhere, and had they not lost their best player to injury, they were primed to make some noise in the tourney.
You people should be grateful to have the brilliant coaching, the hard work ethic, and the clean and upstanding citizen heading up your team. I am still attached to Weber, and I think he got a raw deal here at Illinois.
I now have a 1B team to the 1A of Illinois, I look forward to following oscar and your Wildcats!
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Boom, currie outed.
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oscar Weber is a good man. He's classy, he's honest to a fault, and he's a damn fine basketball mind. He brought Illinois to their best performance ever. He didn't suddenly forget how to coach.
He was the victim of many unfortunate incidents with players getting into trouble off the court, the Eric Gordon fiasco, bad luck with injury after injury, and players that simply weren't as good as advertised or were lazy and didn't want to improve.
He was also railroaded by legions of entitled spoiled fans that surrounded him with nothing but negativity the entire time he was there.
And this mantra that he only won with Bill Self's recruits is hogwash. First off, Self got worse every year he was at Illinois, and secondly he showed what a great coach he truly is with the 08-09 team that finished 2nd in the Big Ten after a losing season. That team came out of nowhere, and had they not lost their best player to injury, they were primed to make some noise in the tourney.
You people should be grateful to have the brilliant coaching, the hard work ethic, and the clean and upstanding citizen heading up your team. I am still attached to Weber, and I think he got a raw deal here at Illinois.
I now have a 1B team to the 1A of Illinois, I look forward to following oscar and your Wildcats!
It would be nice if that weren't all made up.
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yep its too bad all those forces conspired against him this year to cast a spell and make his recruiting shitty and lose 12 out of the last 13 games
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My god, if we at any point lose 12 out of 13.....
I mean, did we even do that under wooly or asbury?
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i don't care if you agree, but you act like you don't have access to his history. once self's players left, he sucked.
I dunno man. I hear what you're saying. I'm just waiting to see what happens with the staff, recruiting, and a season or two of watching us play under Weber before I melt down. Does that make sense? Idk
No, it doesn't make sense. It makes no sense to tolerate this for 1 second, much less 2 mother rough ridin' years. WTF is wrong with you?
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I admit it IS possible, if the following conditions are met, that I might come to accept oscar Weber as our coach but I will never NEVER NEVER forgive John Currie for this. It is embarrassing how much I hate him for doing this to us.
Unlikely Conditions that I accept oscar Weber:
1. we keep winning, win more, and are more successfuls (titles and stuff)
2. our players ACTUALLY accept him and play for him. and not just like him cause they can play gameboy and crap in practice now.
3. he recruits more good players and some awesome players.
I know I can talk tough now, but winning (unlikely) really does cure everything (except hate for John Currie).
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i don't care if you agree, but you act like you don't have access to his history. once self's players left, he sucked.
I dunno man. I hear what you're saying. I'm just waiting to see what happens with the staff, recruiting, and a season or two of watching us play under Weber before I melt down. Does that make sense? Idk
Did you watch the press conference today? Honest question.
And if you answer incorrectly, I'm taking your position as admin on TMB
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This eff interviewed for 4-5 positions in the last few weeks, yet had no rough ridin' idea who he might have on his staff? Really? I'm not saying everyone has to have OB level of planning and organization, but for eff sakes, this jackwagon doesn't even have a plan. He seemed genuinely amazed that Currie was incompetent enough to hire him. It was a rough ridin' "whirlwind". If I'm an AD and you can't name 5 guys you can guarantee you can get on the staff that are impressive names, GTFO...particularly if you, yourself are a fuckstick of a coach.
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I will give Weber a chance, but I've got my own personal list of things I think he must do to prove to me that this wasn't a dumpster fire of a hire.
I mean, really, you have to give everyone a chance. I think he "can" attain a lot of these things, but my gut says he won't.
First, retain the roster. It "sounds" like that's going to happen, but I don't know.
Second, I want him to retain Underwood. I think one of the things he said in the press conference was correct; we need a guy that gives us a lay of the land. We need someone with a credible connection to our recruits and existing pipelines (for the most part). I know the Miami stuff is going to dry up, but we've been making some inroads in Texas and in the east coast, so it would help to have someone who knows those people and who have shaken those hands. On top of that, I have heard the name Chris Lowrey come up as one of his potential assistants. Seems like a decent idea. Also, I want a good recruiter.
Third, I want him to get Upshaw back. I don't care what Upshaw or his mom have said about re-opening his recruitment. Go get him back. Do that, and I'll be more open.
Fourth, I want him to secure a commitment from Semi Ojeleye. He got a ton of four star kids from Illinois, so I don't think it's too much to ask for him to get us a four star kid that's not getting KU love if he's worth our job.
Fifth, I want a Top 25 recruiting class. He's going to have some roster spots open and, hopefully, a shot at Semi. We have a palace of a practice facility and direct flights to Dallas and Chicago (where he has all of these supposed ties).
Sixth, I want an appearance in the second weekend of the NCAA tournament after a top three finish in the conference.
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the only way i'm supporting this is if the ultimate plan is to bring pearl in in 2 years. but since thats so unlikely, i hate it.
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
I support K-State. Yeah it doesn't make sense, that's the point. If the guy sucks then I'll be calling for his head but I can't see the future.
The best way to support K-State is to let the administration know this bullshit won't be tolerated and make sure it doesn't happen again. John Currie and oscar Webber are not K-State.
So let me get this straight? You are probably one of those guys that wanted a true K-Stater? Tim Jankovich or Steve Henson? First of all Jankovich was an okay coach in MVC for 4 years and Henson is very unproven. Yes I wanted Underwood to be the head coach, but we got a good coach in Weber who has won before. I just dont get all of the hate just give him a chance.
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I will support oscar Weber if he brings in a badassmotherfucker recruiter.
THIS
Way to go Scoops, winning them over one goemawer at a time. :fatty:
I said IF. easy there
Yes, but this is a fun thread to read. Kind of like when we got OB back. :party:
Exactly what I was thinking :ksu:
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
I support K-State. Yeah it doesn't make sense, that's the point. If the guy sucks then I'll be calling for his head but I can't see the future.
The best way to support K-State is to let the administration know this bullshit won't be tolerated and make sure it doesn't happen again. John Currie and oscar Webber are not K-State.
So let me get this straight? You are probably one of those guys that wanted a true K-Stater? Tim Jankovich or Steve Henson? First of all Jankovich was an okay coach in MVC for 4 years and Henson is very unproven. Yes I wanted Underwood to be the head coach, but we got a good coach in Weber who has won before. I just dont get all of the hate just give him a chance.
eff no I didn't want those guys...although after I heard we hired this fuckstick I would gladly trade for either of them. There were several solid possibilities - Pastner, Gottlieb, Hurricane, etc. Our resident bad person, Currie, never interviewed, and as far as we know never even contacted, any of them. He *might* have interviewed Underwood, but we don't even know that. And yes, I would take Underwood in a second over fuckface Weber.
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And this mantra that he only won with Bill Self's recruits is hogwash. First off, Self got worse every year he was at Illinois, and secondly he showed what a great coach he truly is with the 08-09 team that finished 2nd in the Big Ten after a losing season. That team came out of nowhere, and had they not lost their best player to injury, they were primed to make some noise in the tourney.
2000–2001 Illinois 27–8 13–3 T–1st NCAA Elite Eight
2001–2002 Illinois 26–9 11–5 T–1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2002–2003 Illinois 25–7 11–5 2nd NCAA 2nd Round
did self win with his predecessors players and get out just in the nick of time?
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Purplekrush is obviously one of the delusional Illini whiners from the Scout board. Probably also known as either Peoriaman or Nova. Please disregard.
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Supporting a bad hire just doesn't make sense. We tried supporting Darrin Horn as long as we could tolerate it. But if a guy can't recruit Chicago/Illinois in general, how the f*ck do you expect him to recruit in Manhattan, KS while being the little brother of KU?
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Supporting a bad hire just doesn't make sense. We tried supporting Darrin Horn as long as we could tolerate it. But if a guy can't recruit Chicago/Illinois in general, how the f*ck do you expect him to recruit in Manhattan, KS while being the little brother of KU?
South Carolina has a basketball program? lol your a fool. Get the f*ck off this board. And i Hate oscar weber.
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Supporting a bad hire just doesn't make sense. We tried supporting Darrin Horn as long as we could tolerate it. But if a guy can't recruit Chicago/Illinois in general, how the f*ck do you expect him to recruit in Manhattan, KS while being the little brother of KU?
South Carolina has a basketball program? lol your a fool. Get the f*ck off this board. And i Hate oscar weber.
"Your a fool."
Nice grammar, guy. I won't make any jokes about oscar Weber in this post. Just wouldn't be right.
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Supporting a bad hire just doesn't make sense. We tried supporting Darrin Horn as long as we could tolerate it. But if a guy can't recruit Chicago/Illinois in general, how the f*ck do you expect him to recruit in Manhattan, KS while being the little brother of KU?
Big brother just went 2-10 in football, fired their coach, and hired a new one that could not get over the fact that little bro was 10-2 and kept repeating it in his introductory press conference. KU football is a complete joke and in case you didn't know, football is a bigger sport than basketball.
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Of course football is a bigger sport than basketball, yet somehow KSU still has a 461-600 something all-time record. I can't imagine KU's is much worse. It's probably about the same. :excited:
At that point, you have to start comparing the bball programs. Then baseball, which apparently none of you give a f*ck about.
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Of course football is a bigger sport than basketball, yet somehow KSU still has a 461-600 something all-time record. I can't imagine KU's is much worse. It's probably about the same. :excited:
At that point, you have to start comparing the bball programs. Then baseball, which apparently none of you give a f*ck about.
god the all time record talking point is so rough ridin' stupid. by that logic Army is a national power and South Carolina was a good job before Steve.
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Of course football is a bigger sport than basketball, yet somehow KSU still has a 461-600 something all-time record. I can't imagine KU's is much worse. It's probably about the same. :excited:
At that point, you have to start comparing the bball programs. Then baseball, which apparently none of you give a f*ck about.
god the all time record talking point is so rough ridin' stupid. by that logic Army is a national power and South Carolina was a good job before Steve.
Why is the all-time record talk stupid? I've admitted on this board that historically we suck at football, but still aren't worse than KSU. We're over .500 historically, KSU is not. Looks like KU is over .500 as well. KSU and KU have both won 6 bowl games, but KU has lost 6 bowl games and KSU has lost 9. We're 5-12 in bowl games.. doesn't matter that we've been to more, we rough ridin' suck in them and more often than not lose. This isn't even about football right now. How many times has KSU been a #2 seed in the NCAAT (and some of you say we have no bball history, yet Frank alluded to it in his presser)?
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Purplekrush is obviously one of the delusional Illini whiners from the Scout board. Probably also known as either Peoriaman or Nova. Please disregard.
No, he is John Currie or some pathetic f!ck up from his AD he sends over here to try and sway opinions/get his spin out so he can cling to his job.
But this time he won't win. This is the EMAW summer. we are taking to the streets and burning this down.
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ummm, dude, it's pretty obvious that it's orangekrush117. His oscar Weber fixation on IlliniHQ was one of the creepiest subplots of that place. He's completely deranged.
Purplekrush is obviously one of the delusional Illini whiners from the Scout board. Probably also known as either Peoriaman or Nova. Please disregard.
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Expectations are so low that Weber is bound to exceed them, thus an extension for Currie, assuring him the opportunity to eff up the football program for life with a very shitty hire. My money is on Ron Zook, failed miserably at Illinois, has a weird voice and is white
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This might be a stretch but Bob Gottlieb (Doug's dad) help get oscar Weber his 1st coaching job at Western Kentucky. What if Weber puts Doug on his coaching staff?
What if I had a unicorn that gave blow jobs?
I think the horn would get in the way... and Doug Gottlieb still wouldn't be a coach at KSU.
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jesus if i just don't love all of these illini posters.
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South Carolina gamecocks. Ya...
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Purplekrush is obviously one of the delusional Illini whiners from the Scout board. Probably also known as either Peoriaman or Nova. Please disregard.
Look man, I get what you are saying, but the fact that you hate our coach doesn't make me feel any better.
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Illini posters... answer me this please:
Is Weber a good guy?
After re-watching the press conference video, my gut reaction is something between embarrassment and pity. He seems like a reasonably nice person who is in over his head... maybe even with a touch of social anxiety disorder. I'm not a psychologist, but that's my impression. I know most of you are completely over him as a coach, but I'd like to hear some of your personal impressions of him.
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PurpleKrush is a notorious WFF (Weber First Fan) from the Illini HQ forum. Do not think the Scout Board or OrangeKrush117 are representative of Illini Nation.
Weber has good intentions, but is just bad at it. He's a whiner, not a leader. He plays the victim instead of overcoming challenges. He couldn't fill Self's shoes and I certainly can't see him filling Martin's. His recruiting was all over the map, usually a year behind the curve. JMHO, but this is possibly the worst job he could have landed. This is a similar situation to Illinois. Taking over from a popular coach that bolted. He wasn't that impressive a hire at Illinois, but most gave him more than a fair chance. He's already off on the wrong foot here and I can't picture this ending pretty.
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PurpleKrush is a notorious WFF (Weber First Fan) from the Illini HQ forum. Do not think the Scout Board or OrangeKrush117 are representative of Illini Nation.
Weber has good intentions, but is just bad at it. He's a whiner, not a leader. He plays the victim instead of overcoming challenges. He couldn't fill Self's shoes and I certainly can't see him filling Martin's. His recruiting was all over the map, usually a year behind the curve. JMHO, but this is possibly the worst job he could have landed. This is a similar situation to Illinois. Taking over from a popular coach that bolted. He wasn't that impressive a hire at Illinois, but most gave him more than a fair chance. He's already off on the wrong foot here and I can't picture this ending pretty.
Thanks for that. You should stick around.
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I love you all. But seriously, give the guy a chance no matter what his background is. The hire could've been much worse, and honestly I don't think a much better coach would've came here maybe a little better coach but not a much much better one. If that made any sense, lol.
This has likely been iterated but I do not care to delve through several more pages of inanity to reach it: Scoops, yes we love you too. But seriously, the hire could not have been worse. With much misfortune, we are now saddled with an awful coach/recruiter, who you have chosen to back pending results. Hopeful future successes aside, the hire is abhorrent, and is a sign that someone from goEMAW.com (anyone) must be more competent than J. Currie, FukTuck.
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Let's be clear bout one thing: By supporting oscar Weber you are implicitly supporting John Currie, and the fact that he made this shitpile of a hire. You are supporting a guy who's most important rough ridin' job, his primary responsibility, is to put coaching in place in football and men's basketball that will result in people sending him truckloads of cash. That's it, everything else is just PR and schmoozing. Nothing else he does is all that important in comparison. Don't give me the bullshit about him building the BBPF - Bob Huggins and Frank Martin did that - Currie was just the man who caled the architecture firm...eff he probably didn't even do that. He has done ***ONE*** task since he has been here that was exponentially more important than anything else, and managed to shove oscar Weber up our ass.
So go on, support oscar if you want, but if you do, you are supporting John Currie and all he's done and stands for. If you're good with that, then eff YOU - you obviously hate K-State.
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Let's be clear bout one thing: By supporting oscar Weber you are implicitly supporting John Currie, and the fact that he made this shitpile of a hire. You are supporting a guy who's most important rough ridin' job, his primary responsibility, is to put coaching in place in football and men's basketball that will result in people sending him truckloads of cash. That's it, everything else is just PR and schmoozing. Nothing else he does is all that important in comparison. Don't give me the bullshit about him building the BBPF - Bob Huggins and Frank Martin did that - Currie was just the man who caled the architecture firm...eff he probably didn't even do that. He has done ***ONE*** task since he has been here that was exponentially more important than anything else, and managed to shove oscar Weber up our ass.
So go on, support oscar if you want, but if you do, you are supporting John Currie and all he's done and stands for. If you're good with that, then eff YOU - you obviously hate K-State.
Good post
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i'm enjoying the big 12 - big 10 - sec battle in this thread. :thumbs:
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PurpleKrush is a notorious WFF (Weber First Fan) from the Illini HQ forum. Do not think the Scout Board or OrangeKrush117 are representative of Illini Nation.
Weber has good intentions, but is just bad at it. He's a whiner, not a leader. He plays the victim instead of overcoming challenges. He couldn't fill Self's shoes and I certainly can't see him filling Martin's. His recruiting was all over the map, usually a year behind the curve. JMHO, but this is possibly the worst job he could have landed. This is a similar situation to Illinois. Taking over from a popular coach that bolted. He wasn't that impressive a hire at Illinois, but most gave him more than a fair chance. He's already off on the wrong foot here and I can't picture this ending pretty.
After poisoning Illini Nation with your hate, now you feel the need to continue beating a good man in a pathetic attempt to poison the fans of Kansas State. Before he's ever coached a game?
Weber took Illinois to 37-2 and the national championship game. Weber's first 3 years were the best 3 years stretch Illinois has ever had. He was the victim of many unfortunate incidents. The Chicago area blackballed him because he wasn't one of them - just like what happened to Kruger. He had to deal with unethical coaches in the AAU scene there calling him a racist. He had to deal with following up a coach that likely cheated and definitely played in the gray area. He had to deal with the former head coach stealing recruits away from the area as he spent the last year recruiting Collins and Wright and Villanueva away to his new job. He had to deal with fans that didn't like his voice, or his suits, or his hair. Just horrible angry people that hated him because he wasn't a slick car salesmen that cheated.
And through all that, he took Illinois the the title game. Deron Williams talks glowingly of him, I'll talk his word over that of a basement dwelling internet poster.
I just wish that the haters could move on and simply wish oscar Weber well. He's a good man, a family man, an ethical man, and he's a hell of a great coach.
I hope he takes KSU to heights not seen.
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
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So now we've got AAU coaches out there that think he's a racist to boot. That's rough ridin' great. :cry:
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
LOL. Please take all of them and the 2012 class.
And the best part for us (worst part for KSU), KSU will also be receiving PurpleKrush117. He either is related to Weber or has a mental issue and isn't taking medicine. His love for oscar Weber is creepy.
P.S. We call him Bubbles because he will take you to the NCAA Bubble, then once he gets his own recruits, he will take you to the NIT Bubble. Not sure if you guys will accept an invite to play in the CBI tourney, we didn't.
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
good post. is this confirmed?
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
You mean the Jay Price that recruited Meyers Leonard?
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
good post. is this confirmed?
I can't confirm it. But I'd be shocked if McClain and Price don't come. The prized recruiting class may not. Bubbles and Groce might have to fight over that one. You'll probably also get Nottingham on the staff. That guy is a difference maker.
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
You mean the Jay Price that recruited Meyers Leonard?
Yep. The guy that was going to deliver the Zeller brothers to Illinois.
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
You mean the Jay Price that recruited Meyers Leonard?
And by the way, in case you didn't know, Illinois has owned almost every single southern Illinois recruiting battle.
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So they go after a lot of the same players? :flush:
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
You mean the Jay Price that recruited Meyers Leonard?
And by the way, in case you didn't know, Illinois has owned almost every single southern Illinois recruiting battle.
There was no recruiting battle for Meyers. He is from a small poor town south of U of I. He was a skinny point guard before he hit a freak growth spurt. He wanted to go to Illinois. He got signed right before he hit the radar. As of today, not one guy that signed with Weber has played a second in the NBA.
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We have a bunch of damned retards around here. If you blindy support this fucknut, Currie is going to view that as a green light to take the entire athletic department to crap one hire at a time. When it's time to replace Snyder, if God forbid Currie is still here, he's not going to think twice and he'll hire the first person some old fart recommends. If we are lucky enough to be rid of Weber, he'll do the same thing again with the next basketball hire. He doesn't give a eff whether we win or lose, and unless the fans show him that it matters, that's not going to change.
I support K-State. Yeah it doesn't make sense, that's the point. If the guy sucks then I'll be calling for his head but I can't see the future.
The best way to support K-State is to let the administration know this bullshit won't be tolerated and make sure it doesn't happen again. John Currie and oscar Webber are not K-State.
I'm not saying its a great hire or a shitty hire. I'm just gonna see what happens before I melt down, that's all. If in 2 years emaw basketball sucks then I'll be just as irate as everyone is today.
Exactly. I hate how everyone is bitching about the hire and he's never coached a game for KState yet. Give him a chance and let him prove himself before you all flip crap.
Hey dumbass, I know you're a dumbass and all but nobody needs to see him coach a game at K-State. He has proven he is a loser at the D1 level for the past 6 years. But don't expect to not get called a dumbass in the process. GTFOOH with that "wait and see" garbage.
Okay, come back and talk to me next March.
Next year proves absolutely nothing. Unless half the team leaves because they don't want to play for Weber, next year's team should be expected to make at least a sweet 16 and anything less than a making the 2nd round should be considered a dissapointment. The only way next season could influence me towards liking this hire is at least a final 4 and some indication of building a future (solid recruiting, solid coaching staff).
As a BCS program that has won a game in each of the last 3 NCAA tournaments and has shown a commitment to improving facilities we should not be forced to wait and see on a coach like Weber. I'd have been willing to wait and see on a gamble (like we did with Huggs and Frank, and could have done with Gottlieb) that would have brought a face and and an image to our program. Weber doesn't do that. Weber doesn't excite the fanbase, it doesn't excite the media, and it doesn't excite potential recruits.
This is a great post. Our roster created a perfect opportunity for a "risky" hire because the talent minimizes the initial worst case scenario. Instead of getting someone that could build on the momentum Frank created into something potentially very special, we're going to have people happy with our NCAA win next season and tourney appearance the year after that and they won't realize the program is being destroyed.
Then when Weber inevitably gets fired, there is no soft landing for a risky hire and we settle for some shitbag like Greg McDermott.
eff everything about this hire.
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I can guarantee you guys Jay Price will be on your staff. Nobody else in the college basketball world would hire him and he is Weber's most loyal defender. He goes around posting on our message boards defending oscar Weber. He is extremely pathetic. Apparently it was his idea to not play the bench in our loss against Northwestern this year. Genius.
Wayne McClain was promised a "lifetime" contract by our last AD who was and is a complete idiot. Of course that is unenforceable, but the fact that McClain brought that up wanting our AD to enforce it means that he either has no other job opportunities or no motivation to continue coaching. He has not brought in a noteworthy recruit in at least 10 years. I'm not sure exactly what he's been doing over that time. I would hope that Weber has the sense not to keep him on.
Jerrance was the only assistant Weber had who was worth a crap. He turned down a job with Calipari at Kentucky a couple years ago. He has come out and stated he wants to stay in Champaign which is great, he bleeds orange and blue. Most fans have no idea if Groce is going to hire him. There is speculation that Jabari Parker's high school coach is in play as we try to recruit him and Kendrick Nunn. If Jerrance does not stay on at Illinois I think he will go to a more high profile program than KSU. The only reason he's still at Illinois is because he bleeds orange and blue. If you get Jerrance you should be thrilled, he is a hell of a recruiter. The problem is he is hamstrung by oscar Weber so whatever recruit he brings in will never develop.
My advice to you guys is to hope for a good basketball season. Hope your players stay. If so you may be able to make some noise. Of course, you're unlikely to go past the Sweet 16 because Weber has already limited the players expectations to that. He has no confidence in them to do better and is tempering expectations so when he fails he can claim nobody expected him to do any better.
The key thing is to remove Currie immediately. You do not want to give Weber any contract extensions. Make it uncomfortable for him. Do not ever let the idiots that support him trick you into thinking he is a good coach. Not on x's and o's, not on recruiting, not on motivating players, not on substitutions, not on anything. Let common sense prevail. Trust your own eyes. If need be, watch tape of the last 5 Illini seasons and see what he is building towards. With talent any idiot can succeed as has been shown time and time again in March. Hope the talent you have does well next season and get rid of him after year two when the buyout is more manageable. Or better yet, force him to jump ship by making things miserable for him.
Also: make sure your local press doesn't fall into his games. He gets them to lower expectations by claiming the fans are stupid and have unrealistic expectations. He stayed at Illinois 6 years past his expiration date because no members of the press actually called him out for his stupidity. They claim he is "honest" which is ridiculous. If you reporters start labeling Weber as "honest" call them out on it. Saying in your opening presser that it will be hard to recruit to KSU is not being honest, it is admitting defeat and preparing your fandom for failure. Hell, he should have been fired right then and there for cause.
Best of luck to you guys. Don't let a little success go to your heads. I wanted Weber fired one month into his tenure at Illinois, then things changed and I supported him for a few years. Of course, he didn't bring in a single decent recruit his first 4 seasons but somehow we thought that would change. Even if he gets an early commitment like he did from Eric Gordon (who bailed) and Jereme Richmond (who barely lasted a season and barely played) don't let it make you think this guy can actually get it done. He can't. He cannot build a team that is talented and plays with confidence because he doesn't recruit those kinds of players and he shatters their confidence before they get on the court.
It is so tragic that this man is given another chance to ruin a program and make young men miserable. I feel terrible for you guys. I think I'm going to move on now, maybe come back during football season as I'm a K State football fan now ... but don't forget how bad of a hire this is. You'll be stuck with him for 10 years and you'll never want to watch another K State basketball game again. Good luck!
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Anyone who watched that press conference should wonder if Weber was auditioning to play Jed Clampett in the revision of "Beverly Hillbillies".
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Anyone who watched that press conference should wonder if Weber was auditioning to play Jed Clampett in the revision of "Beverly Hillbillies".
Funny you should mention it
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I think Howard will end up at KU w/ Self if he doesn't stay at Illinois.
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So now we've got AAU coaches out there that think he's a racist to boot. That's rough ridin' great. :cry:
That was my takeaway too.
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Saying in your opening presser that it will be hard to recruit to KSU is not being honest, it is admitting defeat and preparing your fandom for failure. Hell, he should have been fired right then and there for cause.
:runaway:
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I can guarantee you guys Jay Price will be on your staff. Nobody else in the college basketball world would hire him and he is Weber's most loyal defender. He goes around posting on our message boards defending oscar Weber. He is extremely pathetic. Apparently it was his idea to not play the bench in our loss against Northwestern this year. Genius.
christ, we could only hope. would be the only way to make it through this abortion.
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PurpleKrush is a notorious WFF (Weber First Fan) from the Illini HQ forum. Do not think the Scout Board or OrangeKrush117 are representative of Illini Nation.
Weber has good intentions, but is just bad at it. He's a whiner, not a leader. He plays the victim instead of overcoming challenges. He couldn't fill Self's shoes and I certainly can't see him filling Martin's. His recruiting was all over the map, usually a year behind the curve. JMHO, but this is possibly the worst job he could have landed. This is a similar situation to Illinois. Taking over from a popular coach that bolted. He wasn't that impressive a hire at Illinois, but most gave him more than a fair chance. He's already off on the wrong foot here and I can't picture this ending pretty.
After poisoning Illini Nation with your hate, now you feel the need to continue beating a good man in a pathetic attempt to poison the fans of Kansas State. Before he's ever coached a game?
Weber took Illinois to 37-2 and the national championship game. Weber's first 3 years were the best 3 years stretch Illinois has ever had. He was the victim of many unfortunate incidents. The Chicago area blackballed him because he wasn't one of them - just like what happened to Kruger. He had to deal with unethical coaches in the AAU scene there calling him a racist. He had to deal with following up a coach that likely cheated and definitely played in the gray area. He had to deal with the former head coach stealing recruits away from the area as he spent the last year recruiting Collins and Wright and Villanueva away to his new job. He had to deal with fans that didn't like his voice, or his suits, or his hair. Just horrible angry people that hated him because he wasn't a slick car salesmen that cheated.
And through all that, he took Illinois the the title game. Deron Williams talks glowingly of him, I'll talk his word over that of a basement dwelling internet poster.
I just wish that the haters could move on and simply wish oscar Weber well. He's a good man, a family man, an ethical man, and he's a hell of a great coach.
I hope he takes KSU to heights not seen.
I want that other coach you are describing. The slick one. That's the one that I want, because it sounds like he wins and doesn't act like a rough ridin' pussy.
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hey retards, he had a chance. he failed. it's ok to hate him from the outset. you don't have to wait till he fails here too.
eff kstate, eff currie, eff weber. i do not support any of them, and it is not possible to separate them.
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If you hate this hire direct it at John Currie and "Mr. Loyalty" Frank Martin, not oscar Weber. Remember, Frank bailed on us..Currie pushed him out. Those are the guys that put us in this situation. All Weber did was get a good job opening and now that he got it he deserves a fair shot from our fan base. The last thing we'd want a quality future coach to see is a fan base turn on a coach who was never given a chance to succeed which is a big turn off because it gives an impression of inflated expectations and negative environment.
At least Weber is a well known name in coaching circles/high schools and has had successful high major teams in a better league than the Big 12. I wanted Gottlieb or some other outside the box hire but it could be a lot worse, like some no name mid-major HC or assistant who no decent recruit has ever heard of.
If you hate this hire, direct it at Currie and Martin who selfishly put their personal strife ahead of the program, school, players and fans to run away from each other and/or improver their own resumes. Dislike, place blame, hate those guys but Weber deserves a chance and the players deserve support. After all the program momentum generated over the past six years, the worst thing that could happen to the basketball program is to fall off the map and start from scratch in 3-4 years. If "the drunk" Huggins followed by "no-name" Frank Martin then "failed at Illinois" oscar Weber can all end up successful at KSU it would reflect well on K-State and its fans and will attract quality coaches in the future. This is a great place to run a basketball program, don't help make it become sh1tty again because of two selfish losers.
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If Weber succeeds, it would reflect well ont he program because it pretty much says any rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) can do it.
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Weber deserves a chance.
false. the worst thing you can do for kstate bball is give weber a chance or support the team over the next 3-4 years.
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Weber deserves a chance.
false. the worst thing you can do for kstate bball is give weber a chance or support the team over the next 3-4 years.
Agreed. sys, who should we have hired? I was all for #teamgott.
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If you hate this hire direct it at John Currie and "Mr. Loyalty" Frank Martin, not oscar Weber. Remember, Frank bailed on us..Currie pushed him out. Those are the guys that put us in this situation. All Weber did was get a good job opening and now that he got it he deserves a fair shot from our fan base. The last thing we'd want a quality future coach to see is a fan base turn on a coach who was never given a chance to succeed which is a big turn off because it gives an impression of inflated expectations and negative environment.
At least Weber is a well known name in coaching circles/high schools and has had successful high major teams in a better league than the Big 12. I wanted Gottlieb or some other outside the box hire but it could be a lot worse, like some no name mid-major HC or assistant who no decent recruit has ever heard of.
If you hate this hire, direct it at Currie and Martin who selfishly put their personal strife ahead of the program, school, players and fans to run away from each other and/or improver their own resumes. Dislike, place blame, hate those guys but Weber deserves a chance and the players deserve support. After all the program momentum generated over the past six years, the worst thing that could happen to the basketball program is to fall off the map and start from scratch in 3-4 years. If "the drunk" Huggins followed by "no-name" Frank Martin then "failed at Illinois" oscar Weber can all end up successful at KSU it would reflect well on K-State and its fans and will attract quality coaches in the future. This is a great place to run a basketball program, don't help make it become sh1tty again because of two selfish losers.
Hey dumb dumb, Weber ran Illinois into the rough ridin' ground after having inherited an NBA roster from Bill Self.
He has a losing record in the Big10.
We just hired a rough ridin' loser.
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hey retards, he had a chance. he failed. it's ok to hate him from the outset. you don't have to wait till he fails here too.
eff kstate, eff currie, eff weber. i do not support any of them, and it is not possible to separate them.
THIS
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Let's be clear bout one thing: By supporting oscar Weber you are implicitly supporting John Currie, and the fact that he made this shitpile of a hire. You are supporting a guy who's most important rough ridin' job, his primary responsibility, is to put coaching in place in football and men's basketball that will result in people sending him truckloads of cash. That's it, everything else is just PR and schmoozing. Nothing else he does is all that important in comparison. Don't give me the bullshit about him building the BBPF - Bob Huggins and Frank Martin did that - Currie was just the man who caled the architecture firm...eff he probably didn't even do that. He has done ***ONE*** task since he has been here that was exponentially more important than anything else, and managed to shove oscar Weber up our ass.
So go on, support oscar if you want, but if you do, you are supporting John Currie and all he's done and stands for. If you're good with that, then eff YOU - you obviously hate K-State.
Good post
Thank you. I work best when fueled by sheer hatred and seething rage.
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
And Chris Lowery if Jerrace Howard takes a different assisstant job or stays at Illinois.
Yes, the same Lowery who ran off every good player he recruited, the Lowery who threw every Saluki player under the bus, and the same Lowery who took SIU from the Sweet 16 and almost beating KU there to the basement of the Valley and 8-23.
I'm sure OrangePurpleKrush is defending this hire if it happens, and it probably will happen.
Meanwhile, OrangePurpleKrush is getting fired upon on IlliniHQ.
http://forums.illinihq.com/topic/23736-orangekrush117-admits-he-is-a-wff-on-ksu-board/
Good luck EMAW's! Looks to me like most of you have the correct strategy by pushing for Currie to go immediately. :ksu:
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
And Chris Lowery if Jerrace Howard takes a different assisstant job or stays at Illinois.
Yes, the same Lowery who ran off every good player he recruited, the Lowery who threw every Saluki player under the bus, and the same Lowery who took SIU from the Sweet 16 and almost beating KU there to the basement of the Valley and 8-23.
I'm sure OrangePurpleKrush is defending this hire if it happens, and it probably will happen.
Meanwhile, OrangePurpleKrush is getting fired upon on IlliniHQ.
http://forums.illinihq.com/topic/23736-orangekrush117-admits-he-is-a-wff-on-ksu-board/
Good luck EMAW's! Looks to me like most of you have the correct strategy by pushing for Currie to go immediately. :ksu:
woah woah, I dont get what's happening. Explain please.
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KState didn't just get Weber (Bubbles). This is a package deal. KState also will be receiving Jay Price and Pimp Daddy McClain. And hopefully, Bubbles prized recruiting class.
And Chris Lowery if Jerrace Howard takes a different assisstant job or stays at Illinois.
Yes, the same Lowery who ran off every good player he recruited, the Lowery who threw every Saluki player under the bus, and the same Lowery who took SIU from the Sweet 16 and almost beating KU there to the basement of the Valley and 8-23.
I'm sure OrangePurpleKrush is defending this hire if it happens, and it probably will happen.
Meanwhile, OrangePurpleKrush is getting fired upon on IlliniHQ.
http://forums.illinihq.com/topic/23736-orangekrush117-admits-he-is-a-wff-on-ksu-board/
Good luck EMAW's! Looks to me like most of you have the correct strategy by pushing for Currie to go immediately. :ksu:
woah woah, I dont get what's happening. Explain please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Lowery
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2012-03-02/report-siu-fires-coach-chris-lowery
Those two links are about a prospective assistant coach under Weber. I'm betting the staff is Price, McClain, and Lowery.
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hey retards, he had a chance. he failed. it's ok to hate him from the outset. you don't have to wait till he fails here too.
eff kstate, eff currie, eff weber. i do not support any of them, and it is not possible to separate them.
I'm just impressed with how EFFICIENTLY he managed to do it.
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Lol. Probably shouldn't have posted itt. Oh well.
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
Don't fall for it! Weber is going to kill what you have in Manhattan. His style of play is going to piss mnay of you off. And wait till you see the players he recruits - LOL - sorry, better he is in Manhattan than Champaign!
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
Don't fall for it! Weber is going to kill what you have in Manhattan. His style of play is going to piss mnay of you off. And wait till you see the players he recruits - LOL - sorry, better he is in Manhattan than Champaign!
This may and probably is true, yes. But I wanna give him a chance to prove himself before I hate on him.
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
Don't fall for it! Weber is going to kill what you have in Manhattan. His style of play is going to piss mnay of you off. And wait till you see the players he recruits - LOL - sorry, better he is in Manhattan than Champaign!
This may and probably is true, yes. But I wanna give him a chance to prove himself before I hate on him.
I won't say "I told ya' so" when it happens.
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
Don't fall for it! Weber is going to kill what you have in Manhattan. His style of play is going to piss mnay of you off. And wait till you see the players he recruits - LOL - sorry, better he is in Manhattan than Champaign!
This may and probably is true, yes. But I wanna give him a chance to prove himself before I hate on him.
He has already proven himself a massive failure at this level. He doesn't need another chance to prove this failure-ness.
That's like adopting Cujo and giving him to your kids because he needed a change of scenery from the farm.
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
Don't fall for it! Weber is going to kill what you have in Manhattan. His style of play is going to piss mnay of you off. And wait till you see the players he recruits - LOL - sorry, better he is in Manhattan than Champaign!
This may and probably is true, yes. But I wanna give him a chance to prove himself before I hate on him.
He has already proven himself a massive failure at this level. He doesn't need another chance to prove this failure-ness.
That's like adopting Cujo and giving him to your kids because he needed a change of scenery from the farm.
It's worse!
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
Don't fall for it! Weber is going to kill what you have in Manhattan. His style of play is going to piss mnay of you off. And wait till you see the players he recruits - LOL - sorry, better he is in Manhattan than Champaign!
This may and probably is true, yes. But I wanna give him a chance to prove himself before I hate on him.
He has already proven himself a massive failure at this level. He doesn't need another chance to prove this failure-ness.
That's like adopting Cujo and giving him to your kids because he needed a change of scenery from the farm.
He was a failure at Illinois, okay but I feel like if Underwood does stay and he gets a good recruiter he'll be fantastic which is why I want to give him chance. But ya never know, if he were to lose players and or Underwood I will immediately be off team weber.
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Guys honestly after watching the presser I think he can do some good things, if we are absolutely awful this year then I will start hating on him.. but for now I'm just gonna support him.
Don't fall for it! Weber is going to kill what you have in Manhattan. His style of play is going to piss mnay of you off. And wait till you see the players he recruits - LOL - sorry, better he is in Manhattan than Champaign!
This may and probably is true, yes. But I wanna give him a chance to prove himself before I hate on him.
He has already proven himself a massive failure at this level. He doesn't need another chance to prove this failure-ness.
That's like adopting Cujo and giving him to your kids because he needed a change of scenery from the farm.
He was a failure at Illinois, okay but I feel like if Underwood does stay and he gets a good recruiter he'll be fantastic which is why I want to give him chance. But ya never know, if he were to lose players and or Underwood I will immediately be off team weber.
I'm warning you now, do not get on team Weber!
Weber can't recruit, it's that simple. He had major recruiting issues at Illinois, and it will be even worse at a place like KSU.
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Mississippi State just hired Rick Ray, shut the hell up about Weber.
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Mississippi State just hired Rick Ray, shut the hell up about Weber.
Mississippi St. isn't KSU!
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Mississippi State just hired Rick Ray, shut the hell up about Weber.
Mississippi St. isn't KSU!
I DON'T CARE. ATLEAST WE DIDNT HIRE HIM.
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I would have preferred Rick Ray to Weber by a lot.
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I think i will spend all game every game with my thumb out in front of my face blocking Weber from my vision. That may allow me to totally deny his existence, pretend undy is our coach, and support our doomed but lovable players.
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Mississippi State just hired Rick Ray, shut the hell up about Weber.
Mississippi St. isn't KSU!
I DON'T CARE. ATLEAST WE DIDNT HIRE HIM.
:lol:, OK
There are many posters at all the Illinois boards like yourself - too stupid to realize the truth. You're already Weberized!
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I would have preferred Rick Ray to Weber by a lot.
Stop.
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I would have preferred Rick Ray to Weber by a lot.
yes, definitely.
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I would have preferred Rick Ray to Weber by a lot.
Stop.
No. Keep going.
Pew. Pew. Pew.
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I would have preferred Rick Ray to Weber by a lot.
yes, definitely.
This list of people I would have prefered to oscar Weber is virtually endless. And it is not even limited to living people. It includes some yard art and furniture as well.
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Scoops, I appreciate you trying to be positive about all this. I will never, I repeat never be on #teamcurrie, but as a K-State fan I'll just have to be on #teamweber while he is coaching my favorite team. Still hate the hire though.
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Scoops, I appreciate you trying to be positive about all this. I will never, I repeat never be on #teamcurrie, but as a K-State fan I'll just have to be on #teamweber while he is coaching my favorite team. Still hate the hire though.
You are supporting John Currie. You may not intend to, and you may not want to, but you are.
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I'm supporting my school. It's not Weber's fault that Currie is a dumbass. I see your point though.
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Long time Illini fan here. Just thought I would stop by and give you all my condolences on your new hire. I am very aware of what you all are about to go through and I dont wish it upon anyone. After finding this forum and reading up on your hate for all things Weber, I've come to the conclusion that I like you guys. I could go on and on about what to expect with a Weber coached team but I really dont see the point. You guys got the idea and are not stupid. I will root for you guys when Im not rooting for my Illini. I will not root for Weber though :barf: Best suggestion is to get your AD removed from the equation first as that is what it took to get Weber out of our hair. Good luck and godspeed.
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I supported Turner Gill and I totally regret it now. Dude sucked and completely wiped out all of the momentum Mangino had built up. Don't make the same mistake I made, 'cat fans.
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I'm supporting my school. It's not Weber's fault that Currie is a dumbass. I see your point though.
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I supported Turner Gill and I totally regret it now.
That's odd, I supported Turner Gill too and I don't regret it at all. :eye:
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Well, I'm not going to support Weber, and I'm going to miss Frank. Thanks a lot, Currie.
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I'm supporting my school. It's not Weber's fault that Currie is a dumbass. I see your point though.
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you would have made a fantastic nazi.
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I'm supporting my school. It's not Weber's fault that Currie is a dumbass. I see your point though.
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you would have made a fantastic nazi.
you would make a fantastic jackass, oh wait..... :)
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I'm supporting my school. It's not Weber's fault that Currie is a dumbass. I see your point though.
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you would have made a fantastic nazi.
So rough ridin' true. Scoops is burning Jews.
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If what they are saying about the whole staff leaving to SC, I am fully off Team oscar Weber and i will not be supporting kstate basketball til hes gone.
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If what they are saying about the whole staff leaving to SC, I am fully off Team oscar Weber and i will not be supporting kstate basketball til hes gone.
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If what they are saying about the whole staff leaving to SC, I am fully off Team oscar Weber and i will not be supporting kstate basketball til hes gone.
So in the mean time you have probably already burned half a dozen Jews, right? :grin:
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If what they are saying about the whole staff leaving to SC, I am fully off Team oscar Weber and i will not be supporting kstate basketball til hes gone.
So in the mean time you have probably already burned half a dozen Jews, right? :grin:
Stop.
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If what they are saying about the whole staff leaving to SC, I am fully off Team oscar Weber and i will not be supporting kstate basketball til hes gone.
Hear that sound? That's you reeling me back to team SCOOPS :emawkid:
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If what they are saying about the whole staff leaving to SC, I am fully off Team oscar Weber and i will not be supporting kstate basketball til hes gone.
Hear that sound? That's you reeling me back to team SCOOPS :emawkid:
THIS #teamscoops
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Well, I'm not going to support Weber, and I'm going to miss Frank. Thanks a lot, Currie.
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You know it's bad when you keep hearing this statement from opposing fans. Even KU fans realize K-State just put a gun our own mouth and pulled the trigger. :goodbyecruelworld:
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Couple things..
First of all the guy is not Turner rough ridin' Gill..
He won 68% of his games in one of the best basketball conferences in the country and was there for nearly 10yrs..
First off lets talk about Illinois, they have sky high expectations and their program has NEVER done crap, Weber had probably the best career of any coach there ever.. They have 2 Final 4's in the modern era (one of which was under Weber), 3 Elite eights and very few conference titles.. Winning 20 games a year there is an accomplishment historically, and that's not even taking into account his impressive run at So. Illinois..
The notion that he can't recruit is B.S. too, it stems him from not being able to lock down elite Chicago talent, well guess what, Illinois has NEVER locked down elite chicago talent!! EVER!! Bill Self was able to land some of the 2nd tier guys but there were plenty of rumors that it wasn't all above board.. Chicago is a pro sports town, nobody gives a crap about the Illini, kids there don't grow up dreaming to play for them and even if they did it's pretty common knowledge that the elite chicago AAU kids come with a price tag.. Those kids go to blue blood programs or whoever pays the most, always have and always will.. He signed over 9 top 100 guys while at Illinois and had a couple more coming in.. Illinois always had talent under Weber though, even this year, his worst year ever he had one of the more talented rosters in the big 10.
Which leads to my next point, the knock on oscar is that he's a softy.. Pretty much the opposite of Frank Martin, he's very much a players coach which can be good but he's too much of a push over.. They are usually a talented but undisciplined team, especially lately as they haven't had a leader on the floor to keep the guys in line.. This year for example they were 15-3 atop the big 10 with wins over MSU,OSU,Gonzaga.. Had a lottery pick in Meyer Leonard and 2 great scorers in Paul,Richardson.. They finished with 17 wins, and were blown out by Nebraska.. If they have a good leader on the team ala Dee Brown they usually had good-great seasons, if they didn't have a true leader on the floor they would fold under the first sign of adversity and Brucie couldn't reel em back in..
I can understand not being excited about the hire, the guy has his warts, but he's not Wooldridge or Turner Gill. The guy went to an NC game for christsakes!! He's had some of the best career marks at both of his previous programs, the guy can coach and I think KSU is probably a better fit for a guy coach like oscar than Illinois..
I understand the frustration with your AD, he ran off a great coach on the rise in Martin and then went the 'safe' route when hiring his replacement, he seems like a rough ridin' moron.. Still, I don't think your basketball program is doomed, if Weber learned anything at all from his mistakes at Illinois he has the potential to do great things..
Just my opinion, feel free to shout me down and call me a dumbass.. :lol:
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Nothing weber has said or done so far shows any indication of him learning anything from his mistakes. The recruits he got, seem to be the work of someone not coming with him. His style of basketball, not so much screams, but politely taps you on the shoulder and explains boring. I'll miss the intensity and accountability the most.
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Nothing weber has said or done so far shows any indication of him learning anything from his mistakes. The recruits he got, seem to be the work of someone not coming with him. His style of basketball, not so much screams, but politely taps you on the shoulder and explains boring. I'll miss the intensity and accountability the most.
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I don't think his style is that boring compared to some of the other teams in the big 10, he's a great x and o's guy who sometimes lets the inmates run the asylum.. I think the awkward Purdue presser showed that he at least understands where he mumped up, can he turn it around and be more of a hard ass in the future ?? I don't know, but realizing you have a problem is always the first step..
He's pretty much the exact opposite of Martin, which may be exactly why your AD decided to go that route..
He really only had 2 bad seasons at Illinois, the one year they had the crazy injury and DWI incident which crippled them and then last season where the team just kind of quit on him.. If he can win 68% of his games and take you to the tourney 8 out of 10 years then I think you guys would be pretty happy, and there is really no reason to think he can't IMO..
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Illinois always had talent under Weber though, even this year, his worst year ever he had one of the more talented rosters in the big 10.
Yes, reread this statment a half-dozen times, slowly, as realization of the horror show that KSU basketball is about to become slowly dawns on you. He flamed out with enormous talent at IL, what do you suppose he's going to do at KSU with talent that he's got to wrestle away from mid-major also-rans?
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The notion that he can't recruit is B.S. too, it stems him from not being able to lock down elite Chicago talent, well guess what, Illinois has NEVER locked down elite chicago talent!! EVER!! Bill Self was able to land some of the 2nd tier guys but there were plenty of rumors that it wasn't all above board.. Chicago is a pro sports town, nobody gives a crap about the Illini, kids there don't grow up dreaming to play for them and even if they did it's pretty common knowledge that the elite chicago AAU kids come with a price tag.. Those kids go to blue blood programs or whoever pays the most, always have and always will.. He signed over 9 top 100 guys while at Illinois and had a couple more coming in.. Illinois always had talent under Weber though, even this year, his worst year ever he had one of the more talented rosters in the big 10.
Which leads to my next point, the knock on oscar is that he's a softy.. Pretty much the opposite of Frank Martin, he's very much a players coach which can be good but he's too much of a push over.. They are usually a talented but undisciplined team, especially lately as they haven't had a leader on the floor to keep the guys in line.. This year for example they were 15-3 atop the big 10 with wins over MSU,OSU,Gonzaga.. Had a lottery pick in Meyer Leonard and 2 great scorers in Paul,Richardson.. They finished with 17 wins, and were blown out by Nebraska.. If they have a good leader on the team ala Dee Brown they usually had good-great seasons, if they didn't have a true leader on the floor they would fold under the first sign of adversity and Brucie couldn't reel em back in..
You are completely full of crap. Where to begin? Weber's worst year ever was 2007-08 when he set the Illinois program record for most losses in a season.
"Illinois always had talent under Weber though, even this year, his worst year ever he had one of the more talented rosters in the big 10." How is that possibly a positive? He has one of the most talented teams in the conference (which is true btw) and he finished at the bottom? Doesn't that mean he's a shitty coach?
I have never once heard anyone refer to Weber as a players' coach. Ever. Because it's not true. He is socially awkward and insecure. He has displayed a repeated and absolute inability to motivate and inspire his players. Being an ineffectual pussy is not the same thing as being a players' coach.
You inadvertently hit the nail on the head though. If the team doesn't completely lead itself, you're screwed with Weber. He's just a hand-holder. The dog walker of the coaching profession. Give him talented kids that are self-motivated and he won't eff it up.
Also, please let the Weber being a great Xs and Os coach myth die. He runs the "motion" on offense, which generally means monotonously passing or dribbling the ball around the perimeter ultimately resulting in a forced/contested shot as the shot clock expires and next to no free throw attempts during the game. The best part is he NEVER changes or modifies it even when it's clear his players have no idea how to run it. Those are some next-level tactics right there. Straight man-to-man on defense for every opponent and in every situation. Maybe a little press at the end of a game when he's down big and desperate. Clear schematic advantage going forward for KSU. :jerk:
You do realize that when you polish a turd, all you really accomplish is to expose more turd to the world?
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I love you, Mr Bread.
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The notion that he can't recruit is B.S. too, it stems him from not being able to lock down elite Chicago talent, well guess what, Illinois has NEVER locked down elite chicago talent!! EVER!! Bill Self was able to land some of the 2nd tier guys but there were plenty of rumors that it wasn't all above board.. Chicago is a pro sports town, nobody gives a crap about the Illini, kids there don't grow up dreaming to play for them and even if they did it's pretty common knowledge that the elite chicago AAU kids come with a price tag.. Those kids go to blue blood programs or whoever pays the most, always have and always will.. He signed over 9 top 100 guys while at Illinois and had a couple more coming in.. Illinois always had talent under Weber though, even this year, his worst year ever he had one of the more talented rosters in the big 10.
Which leads to my next point, the knock on oscar is that he's a softy.. Pretty much the opposite of Frank Martin, he's very much a players coach which can be good but he's too much of a push over.. They are usually a talented but undisciplined team, especially lately as they haven't had a leader on the floor to keep the guys in line.. This year for example they were 15-3 atop the big 10 with wins over MSU,OSU,Gonzaga.. Had a lottery pick in Meyer Leonard and 2 great scorers in Paul,Richardson.. They finished with 17 wins, and were blown out by Nebraska.. If they have a good leader on the team ala Dee Brown they usually had good-great seasons, if they didn't have a true leader on the floor they would fold under the first sign of adversity and Brucie couldn't reel em back in..
Also, please let the Weber being a great Xs and Os coach myth die. He runs the "motion" on offense, which generally means monotonously passing or dribbling the ball around the perimeter ultimately resulting in a forced/contested shot as the shot clock expires and next to no free throw attempts during the game. The best part is he NEVER changes or modifies it even when it's clear his players have no idea how to run it. Those are some next-level tactics right there. Straight man-to-man on defense for every opponent and in every situation. Maybe a little press at the end of a game when he's down big and desperate. Clear schematic advantage going forward for KSU. :jerk:
but... but.. but... we're going to run and gun and jack up 3's!?!
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MichiganisGood, I appreciate your contribution here. Its good to hear from a somewhat neutral observer from Big 10 country.
I appreciate and listen to the Illinois fans that posted here, but I also get that they hate Weber (for good reason).
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I'm supporting my school. It's not Weber's fault that Currie is a dumbass. I see your point though.
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you would have made a fantastic nazi.
So rough ridin' true. Scoops is burning Jews.
Yeah, but it's the decent thing to do. I mean somebody else gassed them to death. He's just cleanin up the place.
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He won 68%* of his games in one of the best basketball conferences in the country and was there for nearly 10yrs**..
*Actually 57.8%
**50% over the last 7 years, 87.5% over his first two years with 5 NBA players recruited by Bill Self and his staff.
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If you hate this hire direct it at John Currie and "Mr. Loyalty" Frank Martin, not oscar Weber. Remember, Frank bailed on us..Currie pushed him out. Those are the guys that put us in this situation. All Weber did was get a good job opening and now that he got it he deserves a fair shot from our fan base. The last thing we'd want a quality future coach to see is a fan base turn on a coach who was never given a chance to succeed which is a big turn off because it gives an impression of inflated expectations and negative environment.
At least Weber is a well known name in coaching circles/high schools and has had successful high major teams in a better league than the Big 12. I wanted Gottlieb or some other outside the box hire but it could be a lot worse, like some no name mid-major HC or assistant who no decent recruit has ever heard of.
If you hate this hire, direct it at Currie and Martin who selfishly put their personal strife ahead of the program, school, players and fans to run away from each other and/or improver their own resumes. Dislike, place blame, hate those guys but Weber deserves a chance and the players deserve support. After all the program momentum generated over the past six years, the worst thing that could happen to the basketball program is to fall off the map and start from scratch in 3-4 years. If "the drunk" Huggins followed by "no-name" Frank Martin then "failed at Illinois" oscar Weber can all end up successful at KSU it would reflect well on K-State and its fans and will attract quality coaches in the future. This is a great place to run a basketball program, don't help make it become sh1tty again because of two selfish losers.
Hey dumb dumb, Weber ran Illinois into the rough ridin' ground after having inherited an NBA roster from Bill Self.
He has a losing record in the Big10.
We just hired a rough ridin' loser.
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hey retards, he had a chance. he failed. it's ok to hate him from the outset. you don't have to wait till he fails here too.
eff kstate, eff currie, eff weber. i do not support any of them, and it is not possible to separate them.
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