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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: 0.42 on March 28, 2012, 03:29:32 PM
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RT @foxsportsreiter: Made calls today & heard this: Martin, while trying to decide, was told by Snyder he should "get the hell out"
:sdeek:
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:dubious:
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Turns out it was all a Bill master plan to neuter Currie so that Bill can strong arm Sean into the HC.
LOL @ all of us
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wait never mind :dubious:
@foxsportsreiter Clarifying: The tone of Snyder's comment, as told to me, was, "Don't blame you. This AD is a problem. Escape while you can."
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wait never mind :dubious:
@foxsportsreiter Clarifying: The tone of Snyder's comment, as told to me, was, "Don't blame you. This AD is a problem. Escape while you can."
Yeah, cause that is so much better than get the hell out
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im sure if KSU could have beat what USC paid him they would have... : (
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:lynchmob:
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football school
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im sure if KSU could have beat what USC paid him they would have... : (
has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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:sdeek:
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im sure if KSU could have beat what USC paid him they would have... : (
has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
understand do not what even don't know.
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If there is one thing Snyder won't tolerate, it's a micromanager like Currie.
Oh wait, that's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), ironic thing I've ever heard.
Nevermind.
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God I love LHC LHC Bill Snyder. I bet if he went to Animal tomorrow and asked to be AD, Currie would promptly be fired.
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meh
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If there is one thing Snyder won't tolerate, it's a micromanager like Currie.
Oh wait, that's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), ironic thing I've ever heard.
Nevermind.
It's not. Micromanagers hate other micromanagers.
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Yeah, I'm sure when making his decision to leave Frank went and talked to Bill about it.
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Snyder cannot tolerate a sucessful basketball program.
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If there is one thing Snyder won't tolerate, it's a micromanager like Currie.
Oh wait, that's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), ironic thing I've ever heard.
Nevermind.
It's not. Micromanagers hate other micromanagers.
Too many Micromanagers spoil the managing.
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Reiter totally mis-characterized what Self said about Frank too, so take it with a grain of salt.
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If there is one thing Snyder won't tolerate, it's a micromanager like Currie.
Oh wait, that's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), ironic thing I've ever heard.
Nevermind.
It's not. Micromanagers hate other micromanagers.
Fact.
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yaaay!! I'm a goEMAW poster and if I read or hear something that serves my own self-interest related to either Currie or Snyder then I will BELIEVE it!!
Yep, I'm sure Snyder told another successful coach in the athletic dept to split. I'm sure he was looking forward to paying the MBB bills like he was a few years ago. The tighter the budget the better it is for Bill. Is that how it works?
Anybody want to take a guess who might be spoonfeeding such a line?
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Yeah, I'm sure when making his decision to leave Frank went and talked to Bill about it.
It's probably the fault of Dillon's again, as the epicenter of adult interaction in Manhattan.
Frank and Bill meet in the checkout lane. Frank: "WTF?" Bill: "GTF out while you still can." Foxsportsreiter overhears it all while looking for gum the next aisle over.
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yaaay!! I'm a goEMAW poster and if I read or hear something that serves my own self-interest related to either Currie or Snyder then I will BELIEVE it!!
Yep, I'm sure Snyder told another successful coach in the athletic dept to split. I'm sure he was looking forward to paying the MBB bills like he was a few years ago. The tighter the budget the better it is for Bill. Is that how it works?
Anybody want to take a guess who might be spoonfeeding such a line?
Krause?
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RT @foxsportsreiter: Made calls today & heard this: Martin, while trying to decide, was told by Snyder he should "get the hell out"
:sdeek:
Reiter... :facepalm:
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RT @foxsportsreiter: Made calls today & heard this: Martin, while trying to decide, was told by Snyder he should "get the hell out"
:sdeek:
Reiter... :facepalm:
I know, right? It's as believable as finding a receipt of paper in the trash basket.,,,
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RT @foxsportsreiter: Made calls today & heard this: Martin, while trying to decide, was told by Snyder he should "get the hell out"
:sdeek:
Reiter... :facepalm:
I know, right? It's as believable as finding a receipt of paper in the trash basket.,,,
@foxsportsreiter: LHC Bill Snyder found receipt in trash basket, on floor.
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this thread is absolutely going on my resume
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RT @foxsportsreiter: Made calls today & heard this: Martin, while trying to decide, was told by Snyder he should "get the hell out"
:sdeek:
Reiter... :facepalm:
I know, right? It's as believable as finding a receipt of paper in the trash basket.,,,
BOOM
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RT @foxsportsreiter: Made calls today & heard this: Martin, while trying to decide, was told by Snyder he should "get the hell out"
:sdeek:
Reiter... :facepalm:
I know, right? It's as believable as finding a receipt of paper in the trash basket.,,,
Sorry it doesn't fit with your theory that K-State has agents following players around spying on them, or has an elaborate Ocean's 11 style con game to frame Jamar, or has a Western Union mole to fabricate a receipt on demand, or whatever else you guys come up with. :blank:
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Good call, this was just a case of ridiculously bad luck for Jamar, Frank, and K-State bball.
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RT @foxsportsreiter: Made calls today & heard this: Martin, while trying to decide, was told by Snyder he should "get the hell out"
:sdeek:
Reiter... :facepalm:
I know, right? It's as believable as finding a receipt of paper in the trash basket.,,,
Sorry it doesn't fit with your theory that K-State has agents following players around spying on them, or has an elaborate Ocean's 11 style con game to frame Jamar, or has a Western Union mole to fabricate a receipt on demand, or whatever else you guys come up with. :blank:
all the scenarios you just listed are more believeable than the 'finding it in a trash can' excuse. just sayin'.
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Occams's Razor Bitches!!!
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RT @foxsportsreiter: Made calls today & heard this: Martin, while trying to decide, was told by Snyder he should "get the hell out"
:sdeek:
Reiter... :facepalm:
I know, right? It's as believable as finding a receipt of paper in the trash basket.,,,
Sorry it doesn't fit with your theory that K-State has agents following players around spying on them, or has an elaborate Ocean's 11 style con game to frame Jamar, or has a Western Union mole to fabricate a receipt on demand, or whatever else you guys come up with. :blank:
all the scenarios you just listed are more believeable than the 'finding it in a trash can' excuse. just sayin'.
Seriously?
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RT @foxsportsreiter: Made calls today & heard this: Martin, while trying to decide, was told by Snyder he should "get the hell out"
:sdeek:
Reiter... :facepalm:
I know, right? It's as believable as finding a receipt of paper in the trash basket.,,,
Sorry it doesn't fit with your theory that K-State has agents following players around spying on them, or has an elaborate Ocean's 11 style con game to frame Jamar, or has a Western Union mole to fabricate a receipt on demand, or whatever else you guys come up with. :blank:
all the scenarios you just listed are more believeable than the 'finding it in a trash can' excuse. just sayin'.
Seriously?
I never thought I would say this, but I'm on their side on this one Captain Crap. :dunno:
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RT @foxsportsreiter: Made calls today & heard this: Martin, while trying to decide, was told by Snyder he should "get the hell out"
:sdeek:
Reiter... :facepalm:
I know, right? It's as believable as finding a receipt of paper in the trash basket.,,,
Sorry it doesn't fit with your theory that K-State has agents following players around spying on them, or has an elaborate Ocean's 11 style con game to frame Jamar, or has a Western Union mole to fabricate a receipt on demand, or whatever else you guys come up with. :blank:
all the scenarios you just listed are more believeable than the 'finding it in a trash can' excuse. just sayin'.
Seriously?
I never thought I would say this, but I'm on their side on this one Captain Crap. :dunno:
Ok. You guys have fun.
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welp, you guys did it.
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Question: how often are incriminating documents found in the trash when people aren't looking for them?
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it's not like someone randomly was digging in the trash and found it. someone had to of seen jamar put it there, and grabbed it after he left. Not that hard to happen, imo.
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Question: how often are incriminating documents found in the trash when people aren't looking for them?
top of my head i'd say not very often
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Bill cares about Kansas State more than anything.
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Question: how often are incriminating documents found in the trash when people aren't looking for them?
Who said anything about people not looking for it?
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it's not like someone randomly was digging in the trash and found it. someone had to of seen jamar put it there, and grabbed it after he left. Not that hard to happen, imo.
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it's not like someone randomly was digging in the trash and found it. someone had to of seen jamar put it there, and grabbed it after he left. Not that hard to happen, imo.
A Dillon's employee? Or someone in the Athletic Department?
Currie: It was found...ugh, on the flooor, uh in the trash can. And it was brought to the Athletic Department.
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cc, that was just a little jab, bro. nothing more, nothing less.
but broadly, i mean, to believe only one side of this currie versus coaches is unbelievable is a ridculous assertion. it's like, I'm ONLY supposed to be believalbe that currie isn't a micro manger, frank and snyder aren't pissed at him (not to mention a lot of the coaches at ksu), that jamie vaughn isn't an overbearing compliance office? THAT'S the ONLY believable part? gmafb.
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it's not like someone randomly was digging in the trash and found it. someone had to of seen jamar put it there, and grabbed it after he left. Not that hard to happen, imo.
Oh, so you're going with the Extremely Bad Luck Theory, then? Damn Jamar for getting his money on the same day Susie Q. Complianceofficer stocks up on milk and eggs!
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I KNOW FOR A FACT the manager of Dillard's shops at Dillons.
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Cassidy's bodies under bus tires stuff is really coming to fruition though. Congrats to him.
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Has anyone asked the obvious question? If it just ended up on his desk, how did he know it came out of the trash?
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CC . . . you're fantastic
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If you guys run off CC I will be sad.
CC - I appreciate who you are, as a person.
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Has anyone asked the obvious question? If it just ended up on his desk, how did he know it came out of the trash?
Ended up on the desk doesn't mean he doesn't know the person and the story, just implies that he wasn't actively pursuing finding it. Just going about my day of planning Frank's next long recruiting drive and today's bathroom breaks and lo and behold, what's this.....a receipt you say?
I really appreciate CC too and hope he doesn't take any of this as an attack on him. It is just natural for a need for answers to exist and often questions lead to other questions when an AD has troubs answering certain questions.
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Bill cares about Kansas State more than anything.
Which is why he endorsed the Ron Prince hire.
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Has anyone asked the obvious question? If it just ended up on his desk, how did he know it came out of the trash?
Ended up on the desk doesn't mean he doesn't know the person and the story, just implies that he wasn't actively pursuing finding it. Just going about my day of planning Frank's next long recruiting drive and today's bathroom breaks and lo and behold, what's this.....a receipt you say?
I really appreciate CC too and hope he doesn't take any of this as an attack on him. It is just natural for a need for answers to exist and often questions lead to other questions when an AD has troubs answering certain questions.
#9999
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Yeah CC I hope you stick around but it's going to be impossible for a lot of people, myself included, to just buy the party line on the receipt story for a couple of reasons.
1. Currie is clearly lying when he says that he and Frank had a good working relationship. I understand he's doing it to cover his ass, but when you blatantly lie to your fanbase like that then there's going to be a lot of skepticism about what else comes out of his mouth.
2. This and the Dillards incident happens nowhere else in college sports. Especially this one given how ridiculous the circumstances are. Some people will harp on the floor/trash semantics, which is a bit much, but given how uptight this department is on the players getting any latitude whatsoever (I mean, they tell athletic tutors not to give players pencils for christ's sake), there are going to be questions about the official narrative of "well, golly, we sure didn't want this to happen, but shucks, this receipt just ended up on Currie's desk so what else could we do?"
I understand that you mean well cap'n, but I'll repeat what I said yesterday: You're being paid to help the athletic department, not tell us the truth. It's nothing personal, but it's going to be hard for a lot of us to believe you given what I've said above.
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yeah captain crap is one of the better things about this dump. like if this board really was the bad news bears, then he would be something between a tanner boyle and carmen ronzonni from the bad news bears in breaking training. everybody else here would pretty much be a cast member from bad news bears go to japan.
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WTF is #9999?
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yeah captain crap is one of the better things about this dump. like if this board really was the bad news bears, then he would be something between a tanner boyle and carmen ronzonni from the bad news bears in breaking training. everybody else here would pretty much be a cast member from bad news bears go to japan.
oh man :lol:
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Yeah CC I hope you stick around but it's going to be impossible for a lot of people, myself included, to just buy the party line on the receipt story for a couple of reasons.
1. Currie is clearly lying when he says that he and Frank had a good working relationship. I understand he's doing it to cover his ass, but when you blatantly lie to your fanbase like that then there's going to be a lot of skepticism about what else comes out of his mouth.
2. This and the Dillards incident happens nowhere else in college sports. Especially this one given how ridiculous the circumstances are. Some people will harp on the floor/trash semantics, which is a bit much, but given how uptight this department is on the players getting any latitude whatsoever (I mean, they tell athletic tutors not to give players pencils for christ's sake), there are going to be questions about the official narrative of "well, golly, we sure didn't want this to happen, but shucks, this receipt just ended up on Currie's desk so what else could we do?"
I understand that you mean well cap'n, but I'll repeat what I said yesterday: You're being paid to help the athletic department, not tell us the truth. It's nothing personal, but it's going to be hard for a lot of us to believe you given what I've said above.
I'm of the mind CC risks his job by posting here. He is not an AD shill, but a guy just giving breadcrumbs when he can. He has no benefit to post lies when he's posted other things not on the party line.
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WTF is #9999?
Terrible 10,000th post iyam
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WTF is #9999?
your post count
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Oh, wgaf about that?
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Oh, wgaf about that?
phog.net
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Yeah CC I hope you stick around but it's going to be impossible for a lot of people, myself included, to just buy the party line on the receipt story for a couple of reasons.
1. Currie is clearly lying when he says that he and Frank had a good working relationship. I understand he's doing it to cover his ass, but when you blatantly lie to your fanbase like that then there's going to be a lot of skepticism about what else comes out of his mouth.
2. This and the Dillards incident happens nowhere else in college sports. Especially this one given how ridiculous the circumstances are. Some people will harp on the floor/trash semantics, which is a bit much, but given how uptight this department is on the players getting any latitude whatsoever (I mean, they tell athletic tutors not to give players pencils for christ's sake), there are going to be questions about the official narrative of "well, golly, we sure didn't want this to happen, but shucks, this receipt just ended up on Currie's desk so what else could we do?"
I understand that you mean well cap'n, but I'll repeat what I said yesterday: You're being paid to help the athletic department, not tell us the truth. It's nothing personal, but it's going to be hard for a lot of us to believe you given what I've said above.
I'm of the mind CC risks his job by posting here. He is not an AD shill, but a guy just giving breadcrumbs when he can. He has no benefit to post lies when he's posted other things not on the party line.
no one is saying he's lying. in fact, i believe he's relaying what he's told.
but what he's being told is a different story.
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i believe and don't believe everything that each "side" says.
,..although I will say how "who" dumpster dove and got that reciept hasn't gotten out is quite mind boggling.
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I'm Henry Rowengartner in the hit movie rookie of the year. Just got my cast off. Anyone want to go to a cubs game?
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i believe and don't believe everything that each "side" says.
,..although I will say how "who" dumpster dove and got that reciept hasn't gotten out is quite mind boggling.
I agree with this. If somebody brought me something shitty like that and I were the AD, I would report it (you have to with 3rd party knowledge), but I would go ahead and tell the press exactly who brought the information forward was. People who invade the privacy of student athletes like that have no right to have their privacy protected in turn.
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Go back to the sad corner chingon
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:lol:
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1. Reiter just wants attention. Snyder would never in a billion years say anything like that.
2. Who gives a flying eff about the how the receipt came about. It happened, it's over, and no one will ever really know what happened.
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We all need to get "Don't trust Frank" tattooed on our bodies a la Memento so when we wake up every morning, we remember to not trust Frank.
He's a liar and he hates us.
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2. Who gives a flying eff about the how the receipt came about. It happened, it's over, and no one will ever really know what happened.
i don't think you quite grasp why this is an issue.
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We all need to get "Don't trust Frank" tattooed on our bodies a la Memento so when we wake up every morning, we remember to not trust Frank.
He's a liar and he hates us.
A second tattoo under that one saying "I hate Currie" would be a good idea as well.
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We all need to get "Don't trust Frank" tattooed on our bodies a la Memento so when we wake up every morning, we remember to not trust Frank.
He's a liar and he hates us.
We should do it backwards across our chests so we can read it correctly when we look in a mirror.
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We all need to get "Don't trust Frank" tattooed on our bodies a la Memento so when we wake up every morning, we remember to not trust Frank.
He's a liar and he hates us.
A second tattoo under that one saying "I hate Currie" would be a good idea as well.
Why is there a crumpled up Polaroid of Some guy in a WV Track suit in my pocket?
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I had pictures on a cell phone of Cody Green getting improper benefits from a Nebraska booster at a restaurant.
So, yeah, it's not impossible to believe that someone (KU fan?) might find it odd to see Jamar getting a couple hundred bucks from Western Union in Dillons and see what he dumped in the trash can.
And, FWIW, I'll never doubt Cap'n.
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We all need to get "Don't trust Frank" tattooed on our bodies a la Memento so when we wake up every morning, we remember to not trust Frank.
He's a liar and he hates us.
A second tattoo under that one saying "I hate Currie" would be a good idea as well.
Why is there a crumpled up Polaroid of Some guy in a WV Track suit in my pocket?
WTF does "FYBS" mean?
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2. Who gives a flying eff about the how the receipt came about. It happened, it's over, and no one will ever really know what happened.
i don't think you quite grasp why this is an issue.
I really don't
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Yeah CC I hope you stick around but it's going to be impossible for a lot of people, myself included, to just buy the party line on the receipt story for a couple of reasons.
1. Currie is clearly lying when he says that he and Frank had a good working relationship. I understand he's doing it to cover his ass, but when you blatantly lie to your fanbase like that then there's going to be a lot of skepticism about what else comes out of his mouth.
2. This and the Dillards incident happens nowhere else in college sports. Especially this one given how ridiculous the circumstances are. Some people will harp on the floor/trash semantics, which is a bit much, but given how uptight this department is on the players getting any latitude whatsoever (I mean, they tell athletic tutors not to give players pencils for christ's sake), there are going to be questions about the official narrative of "well, golly, we sure didn't want this to happen, but shucks, this receipt just ended up on Currie's desk so what else could we do?"
I understand that you mean well cap'n, but I'll repeat what I said yesterday: You're being paid to help the athletic department, not tell us the truth. It's nothing personal, but it's going to be hard for a lot of us to believe you given what I've said above.
1. I totally understand skepticism about things when there is an abundance of other information that suggests otherwise. Your feeling about JC and FM is justifiable- but I would ask you whether it serves anyone involved for JC or FM to say anything other than what they did.
2. Kids get popped for getting discounted or free stuff all the time, that's not unique. You just don't hear about it here. Is K-State's compliance office strict? I'd say they are overly cautious. I'll leave it at that. But they aren't the SWAT team out searching for things. Your suggestion that this was some sort of conspiracy is not accurate. I can't say specifics, hope you understand. Someone saw something they felt wasn't right, took it to someone they thought could help, that person went to compliance. From there, just procedure.
I'm trying to help you guys out, keep things from straying off base. Not paid by AthDept to do so. Taking a risk doing so. Hope you find value in it.
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I had pictures on a cell phone of Cody Green getting improper benefits from a Nebraska booster at a restaurant.
So, yeah, it's not impossible to believe that someone (KU fan?) might find it odd to see Jamar getting a couple hundred bucks from Western Union in Dillons and see what he dumped in the trash can.
And, FWIW, I'll never doubt Cap'n.
I think the issue at hand is what would have happened had you sent those photos to NU's AD, and what happened when the receipt found its way to our AD.
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I'm trying to help you guys out, keep things from straying off base. Not paid by AthDept to do so. Taking a risk doing so. Hope you find value in it.
cc, I value the heck out of it. I'm glad you post here.
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We all need to get "Don't trust Frank" tattooed on our bodies a la Memento so when we wake up every morning, we remember to not trust Frank.
He's a liar and he hates us.
A second tattoo under that one saying "I hate Currie" would be a good idea as well.
Why is there a crumpled up Polaroid of Some guy in a WV Track suit in my pocket?
WTF does "FYBS" mean?
:facepalm:
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Someone saw something they felt wasn't right, took it to someone they thought could help, that person went to compliance. From there, just procedure.
So there is a second townie tuck bad person to hate? This is turning into a JFK theory.
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I had pictures on a cell phone of Cody Green getting improper benefits from a Nebraska booster at a restaurant.
So, yeah, it's not impossible to believe that someone (KU fan?) might find it odd to see Jamar getting a couple hundred bucks from Western Union in Dillons and see what he dumped in the trash can.
And, FWIW, I'll never doubt Cap'n.
I think the issue at hand is what would have happened had you sent those photos to NU's AD, and what happened when the receipt found its way to our AD.
Well, yeah.
But the point stands that a lot of these kids aren't careful, and you never know who may be watching.
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We all need to get "Don't trust Frank" tattooed on our bodies a la Memento so when we wake up every morning, we remember to not trust Frank.
He's a liar and he hates us.
A second tattoo under that one saying "I hate Currie" would be a good idea as well.
Why is there a crumpled up Polaroid of Some guy in a WV Track suit in my pocket?
WTF does "FYBS" mean?
:facepalm:
FYNK
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We all need to get "Don't trust Frank" tattooed on our bodies a la Memento so when we wake up every morning, we remember to not trust Frank.
He's a liar and he hates us.
A second tattoo under that one saying "I hate Currie" would be a good idea as well.
Why is there a crumpled up Polaroid of Some guy in a WV Track suit in my pocket?
WTF does "FYBS" mean?
:facepalm:
You wouldn't know either if you just woke up and were the dude from Memento.
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Someone saw something they felt wasn't right, took it to someone they thought could help, that person went to compliance. From there, just procedure.
So there is a second townie tuck bad person to hate? This is turning into a JFK theory.
the point is there are townie tuck assholes in every college town in the nation and when they report "violations" to the AD it ends there. When TTA's in Manhattan report "violations" they are treated as VIOLATIONS.
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Someone saw something they felt wasn't right, took it to someone they thought could help, that person went to compliance. From there, just procedure.
So there is a second townie tuck bad person to hate? This is turning into a JFK theory.
the point is there are townie tuck assholes in every college town in the nation and when they report "violations" to the AD it ends there. When TTA's in Manhattan report "violations" they are treated as VIOLATIONS.
Disagree.
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Someone saw something they felt wasn't right, took it to someone they thought could help, that person went to compliance. From there, just procedure.
So there is a second townie tuck bad person to hate? This is turning into a JFK theory.
the point is there are townie tuck assholes in every college town in the nation and when they report "violations" to the AD it ends there. When TTA's in Manhattan report "violations" they are treated as VIOLATIONS.
Disagree.
That's fair, I just can't think of any concrete examples of athletes at other uni's getting suspended for the same types of things with such regularity. Are we just more up front about the reasons? Actually athletes in other sports @ KSU don't seem to have these issues either. Tell me where I am going astray.
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We all need to get "Don't trust Frank" tattooed on our bodies a la Memento so when we wake up every morning, we remember to not trust Frank.
He's a liar and he hates us.
A second tattoo under that one saying "I hate Currie" would be a good idea as well.
Why is there a crumpled up Polaroid of Some guy in a WV Track suit in my pocket?
WTF does "FYBS" mean?
:facepalm:
You wouldn't know either if you just woke up and were the dude from Memento.
this was fantastic to witness.
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Just the mere thought of Lew Perkins suspending Duhrell Arthur over a tip that he didn't legitimately graduate high school an hour before the National Title game makes me laugh.
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Frank is awful.
Currie is awful.
The problem is that we don't have to put up with frank's bullshit anymore. Currie must be next.
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If I created a western union ticket and dropped it off in lawrence do you think trob would be suspended cc?
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Agree cire
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I picture that Western Union Receipt like the feather in Forest Gump.
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CC, did you see our larry brown / pearl idea? Omg wow! Amirite? Pass that onto schulzy ASAP please.
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If I created a western union ticket and dropped it off in lawrence do you think trob would be suspended cc?
To be fair by using a hypothetical example: Currie did hypothetically say that Samuels hypothetically admitted to receiving hypothetical money. So, hypothetically, they didn't suspend him on a fabrication.
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CC, did you see our larry brown / pearl idea? Omg wow! Amirite? Pass that onto schulzy ASAP please.
yeah, the trash can thing is behind us (although we reserve the right to turn around and use it if necessary).
Here is our focus:
1) Pearl/Brown
2) If Pearl/Brown happens, party like you've never partied before, forget about the silly frank incident.
3) If Pearl/Brown doesn't happen, burn down Bramlage with everyone in it. Start the fire with found trash.
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CC, did you see our larry brown / pearl idea? Omg wow! Amirite? Pass that onto schulzy ASAP please.
yeah, the trash can thing is behind us (although we reserve the right to turn around and use it if necessary).
Here is our focus:
1) Pearl/Brown
2) If Pearl/Brown happens, party like you've never partied before, forget about the silly frank incident.
3) If Pearl/Brown doesn't happen, burn down Bramlage with everyone in it. Start the fire with found trash.
Check the trash for receipts first. Keep everything at the lowest level possible, before Currie gets his slimy little paws on anything.
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Yeah CC I hope you stick around but it's going to be impossible for a lot of people, myself included, to just buy the party line on the receipt story for a couple of reasons.
1. Currie is clearly lying when he says that he and Frank had a good working relationship. I understand he's doing it to cover his ass, but when you blatantly lie to your fanbase like that then there's going to be a lot of skepticism about what else comes out of his mouth.
2. This and the Dillards incident happens nowhere else in college sports. Especially this one given how ridiculous the circumstances are. Some people will harp on the floor/trash semantics, which is a bit much, but given how uptight this department is on the players getting any latitude whatsoever (I mean, they tell athletic tutors not to give players pencils for christ's sake), there are going to be questions about the official narrative of "well, golly, we sure didn't want this to happen, but shucks, this receipt just ended up on Currie's desk so what else could we do?"
I understand that you mean well cap'n, but I'll repeat what I said yesterday: You're being paid to help the athletic department, not tell us the truth. It's nothing personal, but it's going to be hard for a lot of us to believe you given what I've said above.
1. I totally understand skepticism about things when there is an abundance of other information that suggests otherwise. Your feeling about JC and FM is justifiable- but I would ask you whether it serves anyone involved for JC or FM to say anything other than what they did.
2. Kids get popped for getting discounted or free stuff all the time, that's not unique. You just don't hear about it here. Is K-State's compliance office strict? I'd say they are overly cautious. I'll leave it at that. But they aren't the SWAT team out searching for things. Your suggestion that this was some sort of conspiracy is not accurate. I can't say specifics, hope you understand. Someone saw something they felt wasn't right, took it to someone they thought could help, that person went to compliance. From there, just procedure.
I'm trying to help you guys out, keep things from straying off base. Not paid by AthDept to do so. Taking a risk doing so. Hope you find value in it.
Thanks for your response. On the first point, I definitely see why Currie and Frank said they said, it covers both of their asses professionally. If Currie bashed Frank, it'd make him look like a petty bad person and would give another excuse for the fans to revolt. If Frank went off on Currie publicly, the South Carolina administration would get skittish. It's a classic catch 22, either tell the truth and have things blow up or lie and have everyone deride you for being a liar. I'd just rather get truthful answers as to what happened.
On the second point, I understand that you can't go into specifics and I wouldn't expect you to. I also know that kids get popped for free stuff at other schools (this has happened at my undergrad school), but I've never seen another school suspend a kid right before an NCAA tournament game because of a $200 wire transfer, and I've never seen that type of incident make a coach blow his top and run off to a basketball graveyard. Granted, Frank is overly emotional and very entitled, but this and the Dillard's incident seem very extreme and makes it look like we care more about pleasing than NCAA than either winning or looking out for our players. The way you explain it seems a bit more reasonable and now I'm a little more inclined to at least acknowledge that what you've been told might be true. But it's hard for me to fully repress my skepticism over this whole thing, the idea that someone would go through the trash to try and turn in Jamar just seems so incomprehensible to me that my gut just says that something's not right here. I mean, really, who does that? And what school is going to sabotage their own NCAA chances over something as minor as this? All four schools in the Final Four certainly wouldn't. At the very least, it seems like we're overly eager to throw our own players to the wolves, and that's a damn shame.
That said, I definitely enjoy having you here and I appreciate that you take the time to give us some scoops even though it poses risks to you. I certainly don't blame you for any of this and I don't mean to come off as taking any anger out on you.
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Other schools have this crap happen all the time. Only difference is they all discover this crap from April-August. Only at K-State is this stuff discovered hours before a game.
If Jamar's situation was academic (like Melo's), I see no way that Currie doesn't release that before the selection process. At Syracuse is SOP to at least hide that crap til after you get the No. 1 seed.
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lol at everyone now believing some towny found it and decided to deliver it to the school. jfc people.
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lol at everyone now believing some towny found it and decided to deliver it to the school. jfc people.
WHAT DOES BSAC HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS ISSUE
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Yeah how come we pounce, draw conclusions, and report/act on this stuff faster than floodaggie can build a sandbag wall?
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Our fanbase really is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), for the most part.
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I'm trying to help you guys out, keep things from straying off base. Not paid by AthDept to do so. Taking a risk doing so. Hope you find value in it.
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I'm trying to help you guys out, keep things from straying off base. Not paid by AthDept to do so. Taking a risk doing so. Hope you find value in it.
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yup. :thumbs: :thumbs: up
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FWIW I was told that CC is telling the truth.
Also, unrelated but relevant, I received this text from a former D1 athlete/AD employee (not k-state) five minutes after 'cuse tip, "rough ridin' compliance departments are full of no balls pussies. I'm sure some man of taste and distinction's gf got mumped by some athlete, now has it out for athletes, found something, and turned him in"
Later after saying that he was insane and no one can hate EMAW like that, "It happens, I used to eff their girlfriends all the time. :gocho:"
He was legitimately angry about Jamar, and isn't a K-State fan. So take it out on nerdy dudes who came to school with gf's that outgrew them.
First time poster, long time reader. #TeamPearlUnds450K #TeamThanksFrankButYouAreNowDeadtoMe
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FWIW I was told that CC is telling the truth.
Also, unrelated but relevant, I received this text from a former D1 athlete/AD employee (not k-state) five minutes after 'cuse tip, "rough ridin' compliance departments are full of no balls pussies. I'm sure some man of taste and distinction's gf got mumped by some athlete, now has it out for athletes, found something, and turned him in"
Later after saying that he was insane and no one can hate EMAW like that, "It happens, I used to eff their girlfriends all the time. :gocho:"
He was legitimately angry about Jamar, and isn't a K-State fan. So take it out on nerdy dudes who came to school with gf's that outgrew them.
First time poster, long time reader. #TeamPearlUnds450K #TeamThanksFrankButYouAreNowDeadtoMe
Good first post :thumbs:
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jfc, some of you are ridiculous.
also, FYBS is stupid, imo. Carry on.
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but I would ask you whether it serves anyone involved for JC or FM to say anything other than what they did.
Everyone involved should stop talking. They're all awful at it.
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also, FYBS is stupid, imo. Carry on.
i said "ok not really" sheesh dub dub get with the program
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also, FYBS is stupid, imo. Carry on.
i said "ok not really" sheesh dub dub get with the program
didn't mean this thread or you in particular...just the phrase itself.
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i believe and don't believe everything that each "side" says.
,..although I will say how "who" dumpster dove and got that reciept hasn't gotten out is quite mind boggling.
I agree with this. If somebody brought me something shitty like that and I were the AD, I would report it (you have to with 3rd party knowledge), but I would go ahead and tell the press exactly who brought the information forward was. People who invade the privacy of student athletes like that have no right to have their privacy protected in turn.
Basically my post from a week ago. We WILL find out who went dumpster diving. One way or the other. The AD can make it a cover up and look bad in the process, or come clean.
But we won't stop. And our lawyers are way better than KSU's.
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i believe and don't believe everything that each "side" says.
,..although I will say how "who" dumpster dove and got that reciept hasn't gotten out is quite mind boggling.
I agree with this. If somebody brought me something shitty like that and I were the AD, I would report it (you have to with 3rd party knowledge), but I would go ahead and tell the press exactly who brought the information forward was. People who invade the privacy of student athletes like that have no right to have their privacy protected in turn.
Basically my post from a week ago. We WILL find out who went dumpster diving. One way or the other. The AD can make it a cover up and look bad in the process, or come clean.
But we won't stop. And our lawyers are way better than KSU's.
What does KSU have to gain by protecting the whistle blower anyways? Unless they want to support this type of activity :bang:
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i believe and don't believe everything that each "side" says.
,..although I will say how "who" dumpster dove and got that reciept hasn't gotten out is quite mind boggling.
I agree with this. If somebody brought me something shitty like that and I were the AD, I would report it (you have to with 3rd party knowledge), but I would go ahead and tell the press exactly who brought the information forward was. People who invade the privacy of student athletes like that have no right to have their privacy protected in turn.
Basically my post from a week ago. We WILL find out who went dumpster diving. One way or the other. The AD can make it a cover up and look bad in the process, or come clean.
But we won't stop. And our lawyers are way better than KSU's.
What does KSU have to gain by protecting the whistle blower anyways? Unless they want to support this type of activity :bang:
You'd think nothing, yet here we are. With KSU getting ready to have to defend it and make claims about "confidentiality" when they violated it dozens of times in last 2 weeks.
The way they caved to Ron Prince, you'd think they wouldn't pretend to know the law now.
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Captaincrap. I appreciate the crap out of you. Never leave us. :frown:
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But we won't stop. And our lawyers are way better than KSU's.
Blatant shot across BSAC's bow.
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You all need to stop kissing CC's ass, no one is calling him a liar. He isn't 4 years old, I'm fairly certain he can handle people disagreeing with what he was told and I'm equally certain that he knew people would disagree with him when he posted in this thread. Petting him on the head like he's an abused foster child seems much more insulting IMO.
I'm assuming many of you have never received a western union moneygram. The reason for Currie's lie/stumbling is obvious. He's protecting the people who work behind the counter at the Westloop Dillons. I'm pretty certain someone has talked to Jamar about this too, this is why he makes tweets discounting the story that Currie fed. Jamar knows how he was caught but doesn't know who ratted him out.
Jamar did not receive any information that HE could have put in the trash that identified him as receiving $200 from Curtis Malone. However, he did fill out a form that he gave to the clerk working behind the customer service counter at dillons that did have that identifying info. That form is used to find the wire info on the computer, once that info is found the money is given the form is kept behind the counter. Someone working behind that counter, not necessarily the person who helped him, heard about Jamar being in there and/or saw the form and decided to get nosy. Manhattan being Manhattan, this someone likely copied the form and took either the photocopy or the original to the athletic department offices, possibly not even knowing who the hell Curtis Malone is, but who thought it was fishy that Jamar got money from anywhere. This is similar to people being surprised when an out of state football or basketball player has a nice car, he has to be getting paid right? This time they happened to be right.
Bottom line is that whomever brought this form in might have said they found it in the trash, but they didn't, it came from behind the counter at Dillons. Jamar knows full well that he didn't trash anything that said from Curtis to Jamar.
fin
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You all need to stop kissing CC's ass, no one is calling him a liar. He isn't 4 years old, I'm fairly certain he can handle people disagreeing with what he was told and I'm equally certain that he knew people would disagree with him when he posted in this thread. Petting him on the head like he's an abused foster child seems much more insulting IMO.
That was uncomfortable to read. But people need to stop being idiots in the first place.
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MIR, we just didn't want it to be a terrible "working" environment for CC on this board. I'm sure if he left this board because of that, you'd understand.
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MIR, we just didn't want it to be a terrible "working" environment for CC on this board. I'm sure if he left this board because of that, you'd understand.
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You all need to stop kissing CC's ass, no one is calling him a liar. He isn't 4 years old, I'm fairly certain he can handle people disagreeing with what he was told and I'm equally certain that he knew people would disagree with him when he posted in this thread. Petting him on the head like he's an abused foster child seems much more insulting IMO.
I'm assuming many of you have never received a western union moneygram. The reason for Currie's lie/stumbling is obvious. He's protecting the people who work behind the counter at the Westloop Dillons. I'm pretty certain someone has talked to Jamar about this too, this is why he makes tweets discounting the story that Currie fed. Jamar knows how he was caught but doesn't know who ratted him out.
Jamar did not receive any information that HE could have put in the trash that identified him as receiving $200 from Curtis Malone. However, he did fill out a form that he gave to the clerk working behind the customer service counter at dillons that did have that identifying info. That form is used to find the wire info on the computer, once that info is found the money is given the form is kept behind the counter. Someone working behind that counter, not necessarily the person who helped him, heard about Jamar being in there and/or saw the form and decided to get nosy. Manhattan being Manhattan, this someone likely copied the form and took either the photocopy or the original to the athletic department offices, possibly not even knowing who the hell Curtis Malone is, but who thought it was fishy that Jamar got money from anywhere. This is similar to people being surprised when an out of state football or basketball player has a nice car, he has to be getting paid right? This time they happened to be right.
Bottom line is that whomever brought this form in might have said they found it in the trash, but they didn't, it came from behind the counter at Dillons. Jamar knows full well that he didn't trash anything that said from Curtis to Jamar.
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Good info very strange you know all that. currie should be fired.
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Good info very strange you know all that. currie should be fired.
Quite strange indeed...
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You all need to stop kissing CC's ass, no one is calling him a liar. He isn't 4 years old, I'm fairly certain he can handle people disagreeing with what he was told and I'm equally certain that he knew people would disagree with him when he posted in this thread. Petting him on the head like he's an abused foster child seems much more insulting IMO.
I'm assuming many of you have never received a western union moneygram. The reason for Currie's lie/stumbling is obvious. He's protecting the people who work behind the counter at the Westloop Dillons. I'm pretty certain someone has talked to Jamar about this too, this is why he makes tweets discounting the story that Currie fed. Jamar knows how he was caught but doesn't know who ratted him out.
Jamar did not receive any information that HE could have put in the trash that identified him as receiving $200 from Curtis Malone. However, he did fill out a form that he gave to the clerk working behind the customer service counter at dillons that did have that identifying info. That form is used to find the wire info on the computer, once that info is found the money is given the form is kept behind the counter. Someone working behind that counter, not necessarily the person who helped him, heard about Jamar being in there and/or saw the form and decided to get nosy. Manhattan being Manhattan, this someone likely copied the form and took either the photocopy or the original to the athletic department offices, possibly not even knowing who the hell Curtis Malone is, but who thought it was fishy that Jamar got money from anywhere. This is similar to people being surprised when an out of state football or basketball player has a nice car, he has to be getting paid right? This time they happened to be right.
Bottom line is that whomever brought this form in might have said they found it in the trash, but they didn't, it came from behind the counter at Dillons. Jamar knows full well that he didn't trash anything that said from Curtis to Jamar.
fin
Good info very strange you know all that. currie should be fired.
I've sent and received Western Union moneygrams in addition to working at the customer service window at Dillons.
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MIR, we just didn't want it to be a terrible "working" environment for CC on this board. I'm sure if he left this board because of that, you'd understand.
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is that legal? taking his info/form and showing it to someone? doesn't seem like it should be. why would the AD be protecting this person in this scenario?
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first thing I'm going to do when I'm AD is roll out a massive community wide snitches/stitches campaign. really get the word out.
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I agree that the most logical explanation is that the reciept was turned in by a Dillons' employee. There are often 2-3 people behind that counter at a time as well, so it wasn't even necessarily the person who did the Western Union transaction.
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which dillons was it? I'd hate to burn the wrong one to the ground.
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is that legal? taking his info/form and showing it to someone? doesn't seem like it should be. why would the AD be protecting this person in this scenario?
because half this board would track him down and probably hurt him. :dunno:
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No, it can't be legal. I would guess the person turned it in anonymously or had someone else turn it in.
West side Dillons. Old Dillons that's about to be new Dillons.
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is that legal? taking his info/form and showing it to someone? doesn't seem like it should be. why would the AD be protecting this person in this scenario?
because half this board would track him down and probably hurt him. :dunno:
EXACTLY!
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is that legal? taking his info/form and showing it to someone? doesn't seem like it should be. why would the AD be protecting this person in this scenario?
Good question and the staff absurdedly showing Kellis that trash can, you know the one with a sealed lid right underneath the customer service counter, locks in my theory for me. Also when I worked at Dillons I had to change one of those trash cans and you don't find anything inside of them. You pry the top off, tie the top of the bag, and pull it out. If you've ever even put something inside one of those trash cans you know you can't "find" something in one of those things. You can hide a hooker in those trash cans.
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Jamie Dixon was in town Tuesday with paperwork ready to be inked until he stopped into Vista for a corndog. A stranger in a hoodie and nike cortez's sidled up and whispered: "keep...the...hell...out." :surprised:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.comicmix.com%2Fmedia%2F2011%2F01%2F01%2Fcalvin-and-hobbes-twilight-zone-its-a-good-life-1.jpg&hash=697151d83863e9e46e574557ae247d8c690f6166)
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is that legal? taking his info/form and showing it to someone? doesn't seem like it should be. why would the AD be protecting this person in this scenario?
Good question and the staff absurdedly showing Kellis that trash can, you know the one with a sealed lid right underneath the customer service counter, locks in my theory for me. Also when I worked at Dillons I had to change one of those trash cans and you don't find anything inside of them. You pry the top off, tie the top of the bag, and pull it out. If you've ever even put something inside one of those trash cans you know you can't "find" something in one of those things. You can hide a hooker in those trash cans.
Worked there as well, glad to be gone. The only people that do trash are sackers that would have no idea what had gone on behind the counter at customer service. There should be no possible way they found something worthwhile to them while taking out the trash. :blindfold:
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is that legal? taking his info/form and showing it to someone? doesn't seem like it should be. why would the AD be protecting this person in this scenario?
Good question and the staff absurdedly showing Kellis that trash can, you know the one with a sealed lid right underneath the customer service counter, locks in my theory for me. Also when I worked at Dillons I had to change one of those trash cans and you don't find anything inside of them. You pry the top off, tie the top of the bag, and pull it out. If you've ever even put something inside one of those trash cans you know you can't "find" something in one of those things. You can hide a hooker in those trash cans.
Did the staff actually go show Kellis the trash can? How would the staff even know what trash can was used?
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The fact of the matter is, if you live in MHK, you know who Jamar Samuels is, and you know who Curtis Malone is, then you are a Kansas State fan. If you are a Kansas State fan you do not get Jamar Samuels in trouble.
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The fact of the matter is, if you live in MHK, you know who Jamar Samuels is, and you know who Curtis Malone is, then you are a Kansas State fan. If you are a Kansas State fan you do not get Jamar Samuels in trouble.
i know plenty who would
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The fact of the matter is, if you live in MHK, you know who Jamar Samuels is, and you know who Curtis Malone is, then you are a Kansas State fan. If you are a Kansas State fan you do not get Jamar Samuels in trouble.
Our fans are pretty shitty . . .
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Feel bad for the townies on here. First you can't shop at Dillards, now Dillons. Sooner or later, some place that is decent is going to get athletes in trouble and then you're really mumped.
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Feel bad for the townies on here. First you can't shop at Dillards, now Dillons. Sooner or later, some place that is decent is going to get athletes in trouble and then you're really mumped.
MHK is going to get their red lobster. Then a week later we'll find out that a player got free biscuits. Then where will any of us go on anniversaries/birthdays?
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You all need to stop kissing CC's ass, no one is calling him a liar. He isn't 4 years old, I'm fairly certain he can handle people disagreeing with what he was told and I'm equally certain that he knew people would disagree with him when he posted in this thread. Petting him on the head like he's an abused foster child seems much more insulting IMO.
I'm assuming many of you have never received a western union moneygram. The reason for Currie's lie/stumbling is obvious. He's protecting the people who work behind the counter at the Westloop Dillons. I'm pretty certain someone has talked to Jamar about this too, this is why he makes tweets discounting the story that Currie fed. Jamar knows how he was caught but doesn't know who ratted him out.
Jamar did not receive any information that HE could have put in the trash that identified him as receiving $200 from Curtis Malone. However, he did fill out a form that he gave to the clerk working behind the customer service counter at dillons that did have that identifying info. That form is used to find the wire info on the computer, once that info is found the money is given the form is kept behind the counter. Someone working behind that counter, not necessarily the person who helped him, heard about Jamar being in there and/or saw the form and decided to get nosy. Manhattan being Manhattan, this someone likely copied the form and took either the photocopy or the original to the athletic department offices, possibly not even knowing who the hell Curtis Malone is, but who thought it was fishy that Jamar got money from anywhere. This is similar to people being surprised when an out of state football or basketball player has a nice car, he has to be getting paid right? This time they happened to be right.
Bottom line is that whomever brought this form in might have said they found it in the trash, but they didn't, it came from behind the counter at Dillons. Jamar knows full well that he didn't trash anything that said from Curtis to Jamar.
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Nice work MIR, thanks. :thumbs:
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is that legal? taking his info/form and showing it to someone? doesn't seem like it should be. why would the AD be protecting this person in this scenario?
Good question and the staff absurdedly showing Kellis that trash can, you know the one with a sealed lid right underneath the customer service counter, locks in my theory for me. Also when I worked at Dillons I had to change one of those trash cans and you don't find anything inside of them. You pry the top off, tie the top of the bag, and pull it out. If you've ever even put something inside one of those trash cans you know you can't "find" something in one of those things. You can hide a hooker in those trash cans.
Did the staff actually go show Kellis the trash can? How would the staff even know what trash can was used?
@KellisRobinett: Two Dillons employees helped me find the trash can Jamar Samuels' wire transfer receipt was supposedly found in http://t.co/lu1kS8oI (http://t.co/lu1kS8oI)
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is that legal? taking his info/form and showing it to someone? doesn't seem like it should be. why would the AD be protecting this person in this scenario?
Good question and the staff absurdedly showing Kellis that trash can, you know the one with a sealed lid right underneath the customer service counter, locks in my theory for me. Also when I worked at Dillons I had to change one of those trash cans and you don't find anything inside of them. You pry the top off, tie the top of the bag, and pull it out. If you've ever even put something inside one of those trash cans you know you can't "find" something in one of those things. You can hide a hooker in those trash cans.
Did the staff actually go show Kellis the trash can? How would the staff even know what trash can was used?
@KellisRobinett: Two Dillons employees helped me find the trash can Jamar Samuels' wire transfer receipt was supposedly found in http://t.co/lu1kS8oI (http://t.co/lu1kS8oI)
Probably my favorite thing Kellis has ever done. Did well to be a dick about it
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is that legal? taking his info/form and showing it to someone? doesn't seem like it should be. why would the AD be protecting this person in this scenario?
Good question and the staff absurdedly showing Kellis that trash can, you know the one with a sealed lid right underneath the customer service counter, locks in my theory for me. Also when I worked at Dillons I had to change one of those trash cans and you don't find anything inside of them. You pry the top off, tie the top of the bag, and pull it out. If you've ever even put something inside one of those trash cans you know you can't "find" something in one of those things. You can hide a hooker in those trash cans.
Did the staff actually go show Kellis the trash can? How would the staff even know what trash can was used?
@KellisRobinett: Two Dillons employees helped me find the trash can Jamar Samuels' wire transfer receipt was supposedly found in http://t.co/lu1kS8oI (http://t.co/lu1kS8oI)
Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Obviously not a place where you would expect someone to stumble across a receipt by accident. Employees were clueless how it got to KSU.
employees knew which trash can it was...but didn't know how it got to KSU?? yeeeeaaaaahhhh....
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is that legal? taking his info/form and showing it to someone? doesn't seem like it should be. why would the AD be protecting this person in this scenario?
Good question and the staff absurdedly showing Kellis that trash can, you know the one with a sealed lid right underneath the customer service counter, locks in my theory for me. Also when I worked at Dillons I had to change one of those trash cans and you don't find anything inside of them. You pry the top off, tie the top of the bag, and pull it out. If you've ever even put something inside one of those trash cans you know you can't "find" something in one of those things. You can hide a hooker in those trash cans.
Did the staff actually go show Kellis the trash can? How would the staff even know what trash can was used?
@KellisRobinett: Two Dillons employees helped me find the trash can Jamar Samuels' wire transfer receipt was supposedly found in http://t.co/lu1kS8oI (http://t.co/lu1kS8oI)
Kellis Robinett ? @KellisRobinett
Obviously not a place where you would expect someone to stumble across a receipt by accident. Employees were clueless how it got to KSU.
employees knew which trash can it was...but didn't know how it got to KSU?? yeeeeaaaaahhhh....
I'm sure the employees were just "I don't know, thats the one closest to the counter" The whole thing is meant to mock Currie's bullshit story, not to find the the "smoking" trash can
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Yeah, the only way the employees could know which trash can it was is if they actually dug it out themselves or sat on their asses and watched somebody go sifting through the trash.
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some dumbass ku fan who went to highland community college and is working his way to mid-level grocery store management wanted to get back at kansas state and the world so he submitted the receipt to our ad