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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: The Manhatter on March 27, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
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I'm good with Underwood. I believe if he keeps Evans and picks up another good recruiter we would sustain just fine. I think Underwood knows what he's doing.
Now feel free to tell me to eff off.
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I'm good with Underwood. I believe if he keeps Evans and picks up another good recruiter we would sustain just fine. I think Underwood knows what he's doing.
Now feel free to tell me to eff off.
:ksu: :emawkid:
All for this :bball:
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With the right asst. coaches, I'm good with Wood.
But I'm not necessarily #teamwood
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There's already a team underwood post. It's towards the bottom where it should be. (Mods merge please) TeamPearl or bust.
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If oscar wants to keep Unds on staff, that's oscar's decision and i'd support it.
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underwood would also bring us the national exposure that this program desperately needs.
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a poster on the GPC board stated that they knew for a fact if Underwood were the head coach this past year we get Cauley and a few others we pursued.
I'm not stating that as legitimate but I thought it was interesting.
People seem to really like the guy and he's a knowledge bank of BBIQ.
It would be kind of neat to see Underwood as head coach, Sadler as Assoc. head coach, and two gunning mother effin' hot recruiters to go w/ them.
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a poster on the GPC board stated that they knew for a fact if Underwood were the head coach this past year we get Cauley and a few others we pursued.
I'm not stating that as legitimate but I thought it was interesting.
People seem to really like the guy and he's a knowledge bank of BBIQ.
It would be kind of neat to see Underwood as head coach, Sadler as Assoc. head coach, and two gunning mother effin' hot recruiters to go w/ them.
Jacob Pullen and Kim English :excited:
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Cauley wouldn't have considered KSU if Huggins/Frank didn't do what they did to this program.
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a poster on the GPC board stated that they knew for a fact if Underwood were the head coach this past year we get Cauley and a few others we pursued.
I'm not stating that as legitimate but I thought it was interesting.
People seem to really like the guy and he's a knowledge bank of BBIQ.
It would be kind of neat to see Underwood as head coach, Sadler as Assoc. head coach, and two gunning mother effin' hot recruiters to go w/ them.
Would take, even with just one "mother effin' hot recruiter."
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a poster on the GPC board...DNR
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Cauley wouldn't have considered KSU if Huggins/Frank didn't do what they did to this program.
that is appreciated but also now part of our past. It's obvious Huggs and Frank are not for everybody.
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a poster on the GPC board...DNR
It may come as a shock to some but there are a few posters on there with some solid info. Too bad there is a lot of hit and miss there to find it.
Our current players seem to really like Underwood. It isn't like that news doesn't get around to some of the players in the area.
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Don't you DARE give up on Pearl this easily, Hatter. DON'T YOU DARE.
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Underwood is garbage. Did you see my Wuzzle?
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Don't you DARE give up on Pearl this easily, Hatter. DON'T YOU DARE.
who says I've given up on Pearl? He's my numero uno. God, read his resume' on wikipedia. It's gorgeous. Second fastest to 300 wins and 6th fastest to 400 wins in history of D1 coaching. His resume', coaching, and magnetism are unparalleled in this search.
People go, "oh, we can't hire him because of 'show cause'". Well, eff show cause because we wouldn't need him to do ANYTHING in the first year other than coach his ass off. His assistants show cause expires in August so he should simply keep Lamont and Underwood and then not hire one of his hot recruiters until August. Until then they can Hugg it up (unemployed huggs) talking to recruits as much as they want. Then bring him on in August. Sign a great class in 2013 and go from there. This isn't rocket science. Pearl simply couldn't talk to recruits for a few years but by the time that gets here he's already got a few winning seasons and a helluva recruiting class.
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Don't you DARE give up on Pearl this easily, Hatter. DON'T YOU DARE.
who says I've given up on Pearl? He's my numero uno. God, read his resume' on wikipedia. It's gorgeous. Second fastest to 300 wins and 6th fastest to 400 wins in history of D1 coaching. His resume', coaching, and magnetism are unparalleled in this search.
People go, "oh, we can't hire him because of 'show cause'". Well, eff show cause because we wouldn't need him to do ANYTHING in the first year other than coach his ass off. His assistants show cause expires in August so he should simply keep Lamont and Underwood and then not hire one of his hot recruiters until August. Until then they can Hugg it up (unemployed huggs) talking to recruits as much as they want. Then bring him on in August. Sign a great class in 2013 and go from there. This isn't rocket science. Pearl simply couldn't talk to recruits for a few years but by the time that gets here he's already got a few winning seasons and a helluva recruiting class.
Go post this on GPC. We need them on the #Pearl4KSU train.
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Don't you DARE give up on Pearl this easily, Hatter. DON'T YOU DARE.
who says I've given up on Pearl? He's my numero uno. God, read his resume' on wikipedia. It's gorgeous. Second fastest to 300 wins and 6th fastest to 400 wins in history of D1 coaching. His resume', coaching, and magnetism are unparalleled in this search.
People go, "oh, we can't hire him because of 'show cause'". Well, eff show cause because we wouldn't need him to do ANYTHING in the first year other than coach his ass off. His assistants show cause expires in August so he should simply keep Lamont and Underwood and then not hire one of his hot recruiters until August. Until then they can Hugg it up (unemployed huggs) talking to recruits as much as they want. Then bring him on in August. Sign a great class in 2013 and go from there. This isn't rocket science. Pearl simply couldn't talk to recruits for a few years but by the time that gets here he's already got a few winning seasons and a helluva recruiting class.
Go post this on GPC. We need them on the #Pearl4KSU train.
I have tried but people think they have it figured out. Basically everone is saying you can't hire a guy with show cause. All show cause states is that he can't have anything to do w/ recruiting. my belief is that he wouldn't need to this year and by the time the 2013 class rolls around Lamont and whoever else he brings in can handle that. He'll have two successful seasons under his belt before he ever needs to pick up a phone.
The risk, of course, is that if he bends the rules the NCAA will bend both Pearl and the NCAA over and give it to us in big time fashion.
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stick with football posts please.
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stick with football posts please.
No, yoga. He likes Pearl and the GPC crowd worships him like a god. We need him on this.
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stick with football posts please.
No, yoga. He likes Pearl and the GPC crowd worships him like a god. We need him on this.
lol, no they don't. I just have a group of tucks who seem to think I know what I'm talking about because I won't give in to an argument.
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Yes, we can use The Manhatter to our benefit here.
The Manhatter, explain to the tards the show cause thing again. And make sure they understand how good at winning he is.
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I'm good with Underwood. I believe if he keeps Evans and picks up another good recruiter we would sustain just fine. I think Underwood knows what he's doing.
Now feel free to tell me to eff off.
:ksu: :emawkid:
eff off
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Don't you DARE give up on Pearl this easily, Hatter. DON'T YOU DARE.
who says I've given up on Pearl? He's my numero uno. God, read his resume' on wikipedia. It's gorgeous. Second fastest to 300 wins and 6th fastest to 400 wins in history of D1 coaching. His resume', coaching, and magnetism are unparalleled in this search.
People go, "oh, we can't hire him because of 'show cause'". Well, eff show cause because we wouldn't need him to do ANYTHING in the first year other than coach his ass off. His assistants show cause expires in August so he should simply keep Lamont and Underwood and then not hire one of his hot recruiters until August. Until then they can Hugg it up (unemployed huggs) talking to recruits as much as they want. Then bring him on in August. Sign a great class in 2013 and go from there. This isn't rocket science. Pearl simply couldn't talk to recruits for a few years but by the time that gets here he's already got a few winning seasons and a helluva recruiting class.
Go post this on GPC. We need them on the #Pearl4KSU train.
I have tried but people think they have it figured out. Basically everone is saying you can't hire a guy with show cause. All show cause states is that he can't have anything to do w/ recruiting. my belief is that he wouldn't need to this year and by the time the 2013 class rolls around Lamont and whoever else he brings in can handle that. He'll have two successful seasons under his belt before he ever needs to pick up a phone.
The risk, of course, is that if he bends the rules the NCAA will bend both Pearl and the NCAA over and give it to us in big time fashion.
GREAT POINTS, Hatter. You're the best.
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Would love to get Pearl but I just don't see it happening. Likely, we'll end up with some mid-major guy. Meh. Underwood wouldn't be terrible if he's able to keep most of the current players in town and hires another young recruiter type.
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Don't you DARE give up on Pearl this easily, Hatter. DON'T YOU DARE.
who says I've given up on Pearl? He's my numero uno. God, read his resume' on wikipedia. It's gorgeous. Second fastest to 300 wins and 6th fastest to 400 wins in history of D1 coaching. His resume', coaching, and magnetism are unparalleled in this search.
People go, "oh, we can't hire him because of 'show cause'". Well, eff show cause because we wouldn't need him to do ANYTHING in the first year other than coach his ass off. His assistants show cause expires in August so he should simply keep Lamont and Underwood and then not hire one of his hot recruiters until August. Until then they can Hugg it up (unemployed huggs) talking to recruits as much as they want. Then bring him on in August. Sign a great class in 2013 and go from there. This isn't rocket science. Pearl simply couldn't talk to recruits for a few years but by the time that gets here he's already got a few winning seasons and a helluva recruiting class.
reading this+watching 16 and pregnant=instant boner
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Don't you DARE give up on Pearl this easily, Hatter. DON'T YOU DARE.
who says I've given up on Pearl? He's my numero uno. God, read his resume' on wikipedia. It's gorgeous. Second fastest to 300 wins and 6th fastest to 400 wins in history of D1 coaching. His resume', coaching, and magnetism are unparalleled in this search.
People go, "oh, we can't hire him because of 'show cause'". Well, eff show cause because we wouldn't need him to do ANYTHING in the first year other than coach his ass off. His assistants show cause expires in August so he should simply keep Lamont and Underwood and then not hire one of his hot recruiters until August. Until then they can Hugg it up (unemployed huggs) talking to recruits as much as they want. Then bring him on in August. Sign a great class in 2013 and go from there. This isn't rocket science. Pearl simply couldn't talk to recruits for a few years but by the time that gets here he's already got a few winning seasons and a helluva recruiting class.
reading this+watching 16 and pregnant=instant boner
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hirebrucepearl.com has been posted on GPC. We'll see how they rip it apart. I've tried to convince but it appears the "out-of-the-box" thinking had a capacity of 1 (for Huggins).
How soon we forget that EVERYONE said "selling your soul"...blah, blah, blah. "We'll never hire him"...blah, blah, blah.
Weiser made a good choice on that one.
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hirebrucepearl.com has been posted on GPC. We'll see how they rip it apart. I've tried to convince but it appears the "out-of-the-box" thinking had a capacity of 1 (for Huggins).
How soon we forget that EVERYONE said "selling your soul"...blah, blah, blah. "We'll never hire him"...blah, blah, blah.
Weiser made a good choice on that one.
The thing about Huggins is we didn't just kind of like him, we absolutely WORSHIPED him, the GPC crowd included. He was perfect for us. And I think oscar would be even better.
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hirebrucepearl.com has been posted on GPC. We'll see how they rip it apart. I've tried to convince but it appears the "out-of-the-box" thinking had a capacity of 1 (for Huggins).
How soon we forget that EVERYONE said "selling your soul"...blah, blah, blah. "We'll never hire him"...blah, blah, blah.
Weiser made a good choice on that one.
The thing about Huggins is we didn't just kind of like him, we absolutely WORSHIPED him, the GPC crowd included. He was perfect for us. And I think oscar would be even better.
the same folks who are holier than thou and talk of him as a slime ball would be offering their 18 year old daughters to him if he won 30+ games and the Big 12.
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Im tryin not to get excited about oscar Pearl, because i dont think its gonna happen. But if it does, my jaw will probably be freaking sore for a week from all the smiling shouting and woohooing.
I think i am open to Underwood running the show. Obviously the big thing is getting a staff that can recruit. But at the same time i hope he is not option 1.
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Underwood will get KSU on Gameday after Gameday. ESPN and recruits will be all over his nuts. UNDERWOOD! The sexy pick.
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eff Currie for letting us get to this place and eff Manhatter and anyone else who accepts a second rate crap Underwood hire.
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Unds is way more qualified to be HC than Frank was...
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Unds is way more qualified to be HC than Frank was...
Frank's qualifications included the ability to bring a once-in-a-generation recruit along. I think that this may have affected the decision.
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Wooly was too. So what?
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At this point, would not be upset with Unds as a head coach. it's not "settling" i don't think. of course, i would love to have oscar pearl. i would go nuts. until i hear the man has landed in manhattan though, not sure on the possibility of ADJC/tucks taking keenly to him and his "rep" no matter how many sensible arguments we make :/. whoever is hired, underwood is a key to keep on staff for me. familiarity with players and program, BBIQ, and awareness give unds a big :thumbsup: in my book.
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I am leaning toward not hiring a head coach, and using that money to hire a bunch of outstanding recruiters :dubious:
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I'd love Pearl too, bt fact of the matter is he cannot have ANY contact with recruits until August 2014. On campus, off campus, ANYWHERE.
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I'd love Pearl too, bt fact of the matter is he cannot have ANY contact with recruits until August 2014. On campus, off campus, ANYWHERE.
Stop. Stop. Stop.
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I'd love Pearl too, bt fact of the matter is he cannot have ANY contact with recruits until August 2014. On campus, off campus, ANYWHERE.
So Underwood.
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hirebrucepearl.com has been posted on GPC. We'll see how they rip it apart. I've tried to convince but it appears the "out-of-the-box" thinking had a capacity of 1 (for Huggins).
How soon we forget that EVERYONE said "selling your soul"...blah, blah, blah. "We'll never hire him"...blah, blah, blah.
Weiser made a good choice on that one.
The thing about Huggins is we didn't just kind of like him, we absolutely WORSHIPED him, the GPC crowd included. He was perfect for us. And I think oscar would be even better.
the same folks who are holier than thou and talk of him as a slime ball would be offering their 18 year old daughters to him if he won 30+ games and the Big 12.
These are the same mouth breathing dumbasses that were idiotically supporting John Currie for his handling of Jamar until they figured out the consequences were losing our coach. They simply can't help their stupidity.
Keep up the good fight, The Manhatter. You are instrumental in this battle.
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Pearl would be a great hire, and would move on to a larger program as soon as he got his reputation back, so yeah, it would work a lot like Huggins did. I'm team Underwood with the stipulation that we get and pay top-flight recruiters.
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Unds is way more qualified to be HC than Frank was...
Frank's qualifications included the ability to bring a once-in-a-generation recruit along. I think that this may have affected the decision.
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I think you're confused. The man who brought the recuit(s) was Hill.
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Pearl would be a great hire, and would move on to a larger program as soon as he got his reputation back, so yeah, it would work a lot like Huggins did. I'm team Underwood with the stipulation that we get and pay top-flight recruiters.
Cool, so we just need to head to the Top Flight Recruiter store and buy some top flight recruiters. Maybe there is a Groupon for them!
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Unds is way more qualified to be HC than Frank was...
Frank's qualifications included the ability to bring a once-in-a-generation recruit along. I think that this may have affected the decision.
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I think you're confused. The man who brought the recuit(s) was Hill.
Pedantic. Hill stayed with Beaz in his pocket because Frank took the HC job. It was a package deal.
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Pearl would be a great hire, and would move on to a larger program as soon as he got his reputation back, so yeah, it would work a lot like Huggins did. I'm team Underwood with the stipulation that we get and pay top-flight recruiters.
Cool, so we just need to head to the Top Flight Recruiter store and buy some top flight recruiters. Maybe there is a Groupon for them!
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How did Turgeon get Hill? Yeah, that's right, he knew who he was, targeted Hill, and set him up at Maryland to do the best job Hill could do. Of course the best plans for action are all easy and downhill.
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Hey Manhatter: eff off.
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Pearl would be a great hire, and would move on to a larger program as soon as he got his reputation back, so yeah, it would work a lot like Huggins did. I'm team Underwood with the stipulation that we get and pay top-flight recruiters.
Cool, so we just need to head to the Top Flight Recruiter store and buy some top flight recruiters. Maybe there is a Groupon for them!
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How did Turgeon get Hill? Yeah, that's right, he knew who he was, targeted Hill, and set him up at Maryland to do the best job Hill could do. Of course the best plans for action are all easy and downhill.
haven't followed, has Hill produced at Maryland any better than he was for us?
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I too am comfortable with Underwood. And I feel dumb for being comfortable with that. Damnit.
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haven't followed, has Hill produced at Maryland any better than he was for us?
Don't know. His reputation was good when Turgeon hired him. I suspect his Maryland DUI and resulting suspension has been something of a distraction, so really wouldn't think it's as good as it could have been. The point is, Div I coaches and their staffs know who is adept at identifying and getting good recruits. I'm just saying that it doesn't look like Underwood is that guy, and it would be smart to get him some horsepower for recruiting if K-State promotes him to head coach.
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Didn't know 'Te picked up another DUI. Guess Huggs really taught him some things.