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Couldn't paddle out of Ames quick enough. :lol:
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:emawkid:
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Fred: Royce, take a couple weeks off to refresh your mind. We can talk about your NBA future next month.
Royce: Going pro coach.
Fred: Alright then.
:lol:
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Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year: Rodney McGruder
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Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year: Rodney McGruder
:love:
Was Kevin Jones a senior?
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Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year: Rodney McGruder
:love:
Was Kevin Jones a senior?
Yes.
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Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year: Rodney McGruder
:love:
Withey? Brown?
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royce, we should have fouled you. yw, emaws.
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Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year: Rodney McGruder
:love:
Withey?
SR
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Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year: Rodney McGruder
:love:
Was Kevin Jones a senior?
Yes.
J'Covan? Pierre?
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Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year: Rodney McGruder
:love:
Withey?
SR
No.
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Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year: Rodney McGruder
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Withey?
Withey is a Junior. Won't be PSPOY tho. Maybe P. Jackson? Assuming Q. Miller and PJIII both go pro...
SR
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He averaged 13 points, 9 rebounds and 5 assists for Iowa State this season
someone go look up Beasley's one and done stats. They make these look silly. That's how good Beasley was. A complete freak. Feel sorry for 'Havs.
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Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2007-08 33 31.5 26.2 53.2 37.9 77.4 1.2 12.4 1.6 1.3
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Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2007-08 33 31.5 26.2 53.2 37.9 77.4 1.2 12.4 1.6 1.3
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Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2007-08 33 31.5 26.2 53.2 37.9 77.4 1.2 12.4 1.6 1.3
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didn't even win PotY. ridiculous.
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Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2007-08 33 31.5 26.2 53.2 37.9 77.4 1.2 12.4 1.6 1.3
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didn't even win PotY. ridiculous.
I know. I can't believe I forgot how insane he was.
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When Beaz's jersey is retired, it shouldn't be a jersey, it should be a red cape with his number on it.
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When Beaz's jersey is retired, it shouldn't be a jersey, it should be a red cape with his number on it.
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Preseason All Big 12 team:
McGruder
JO
J'Covan Brown
Pierre Jackson
Jeff Withey
With potential of Withey and Brown leaving for draft. I have seen both of them on multiple mock drafts. :crossfingers:
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Preseason All Big 12 team:
McGruder
JO
J'Covan Brown
Pierre Jackson
Jeff Withey
With potential of Withey and Brown leaving for draft. I have seen both of them on multiple mock drafts. :crossfingers:
Who has Brown in a mock draft? LOL.
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Elijah Johnson will be quite good next year, imo.
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When Beaz's jersey is retired, it shouldn't be a jersey, it should be a red cape with his number on it.
:flush:
Beaz hater outed. Boom
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Fred: Royce, take a couple weeks off to refresh your mind. We can talk about your NBA future next month.
Royce: Going pro coach.
Fred: Alright then.
:lol:
:thumbs:
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Elijah Johnson will be quite good next year, imo.
Bill will have him coached up into the next Paul Pierce.
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Preseason All Big 12 team:
McGruder
JO
J'Covan Brown
Pierre Jackson
Jeff Withey
With potential of Withey and Brown leaving for draft. I have seen both of them on multiple mock drafts. :crossfingers:
Who has Brown in a mock draft? LOL.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/
Sorry only one mock has him. We can hope he is an idiot and still leaves.
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Elijah Johnson will be quite good next year, imo.
Yeah, he will be my personal preseason B12 POTY.
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Elijah Johnson will be quite good next year, imo.
Yeah, he will be my personal preseason B12 POTY.
I don't care if it's Johnson or McGruder. Either way we're winners.
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Preseason All Big 12 team:
McGruder
JO
J'Covan Brown
Pierre Jackson
Jeff Withey
With potential of Withey and Brown leaving for draft. I have seen both of them on multiple mock drafts. :crossfingers:
Who has Brown in a mock draft? LOL.
Neither brown or withey are on draft boards right now. Not on NBA talent eval's radars even.
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Preseason All Big 12 team:
McGruder
JO
J'Covan Brown
Pierre Jackson
Jeff Withey
With potential of Withey and Brown leaving for draft. I have seen both of them on multiple mock drafts. :crossfingers:
Who has Brown in a mock draft? LOL.
Neither brown or withey are on draft boards right now. Not on NBA talent eval's radars even.
Jkeys did you just totally ignore the mock draft board W-cat posted that had browns name on it in this thread? :facepalm:
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Preseason All Big 12 team:
McGruder
JO
J'Covan Brown
Pierre Jackson
Jeff Withey
With potential of Withey and Brown leaving for draft. I have seen both of them on multiple mock drafts. :crossfingers:
Who has Brown in a mock draft? LOL.
Neither brown or withey are on draft boards right now. Not on NBA talent eval's radars even.
Jkeys did you just totally ignore the mock draft board W-cat posted that had browns name on it in this thread? :facepalm:
I hope he ignored it. Fairly certain jkeys is talking about actual draft boards and not a blog with a history of being really horrible. Brown is a worse NBA prospect than Pullen ever was. Dude is a 6'0" shooting guard with average range and no real ability to get to the rim.
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Preseason All Big 12 team:
McGruder
JO
J'Covan Brown
Pierre Jackson
Jeff Withey
With potential of Withey and Brown leaving for draft. I have seen both of them on multiple mock drafts. :crossfingers:
Who has Brown in a mock draft? LOL.
Neither brown or withey are on draft boards right now. Not on NBA talent eval's radars even.
Jkeys did you just totally ignore the mock draft board W-cat posted that had browns name on it in this thread? :facepalm:
I hope he ignored it. Fairly certain jkeys is talking about actual draft boards and not a blog with a history of being really horrible. Brown is a worse NBA prospect than Pullen ever was. Dude is a 6'0" shooting guard with average range and no real ability to get to the rim.
I was talking actual draft boards. The two draft websites you find are awful, not reflective of what NBA decision makers are thinking at all. Not to sound big timey, but I do know two people who work in this field, neither have heard of Aldrich being discussed by anyone, and Brown lacks size for an off guard and any real ball handling skills to be a point. Undersized guards who can score still have a place in the NBA (Bayless, Lou Williams, etc) but Brown would be well served to stay another year. This year's class is pretty robust due to so many kids delaying a year due to the lockout.
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Seff has done a good job of neutralizing withey after his fantastic start to the year. BITB.
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I was talking actual draft boards. The two draft websites you find are awful, not reflective of what NBA decision makers are thinking at all. Not to sound big timey, but I do know two people who work in this field, neither have heard of Aldrich being discussed by anyone, and Brown lacks size for an off guard and any real ball handling skills to be a point. Undersized guards who can score still have a place in the NBA (Bayless, Lou Williams, etc) but Brown would be well served to stay another year. This year's class is pretty robust due to so many kids delaying a year due to the lockout.
lol :opcat:
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Seff has done a good job of neutralizing withey after his fantastic start to the year. BITB.
He didn't have a "fantastic start to the year." He had a great 3-4 game stretch where he dominated K-State, Baylor, and Oklahoma State.
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Withey seemed pretty fantastic to me most of the year.
I mean, his job to to keep guys off the rim and he did a damn good job of that.
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Seff has done a good job of neutralizing withey after his fantastic start to the year. BITB.
He didn't have a "fantastic start to the year." He had a great 3-4 game stretch where he dominated K-State, Baylor, and Oklahoma State.
ignoring the fact that you bit on what was obvious bait, that's still not a bad start. k-state and baylor have some good players in their frontcourts.
it's kind of weird how withey has kind of fallen off the map lately. it's like danny stopped whispering to him or something.
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Withey seemed pretty fantastic to me most of the year.
I mean, his job to to keep guys off the rim and he did a damn good job of that.
Seff: Hmmm now that the big 12 is wrapped up eff that guy if he thinks he's going to get the pt to jump.
KU fans: withey was never very good this year.
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Withey was solid, but there is nothing Self could have done to make him NBA draft potential this year. He wasn't even in the same ball park as Cole Aldrich, Thomas Robinson, or the Morris twins.
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Seff has done a good job of neutralizing withey after his fantastic start to the year. BITB.
He didn't have a "fantastic start to the year." He had a great 3-4 game stretch where he dominated K-State, Baylor, and Oklahoma State.
ignoring the fact that you bit on what was obvious bait, that's still not a bad start. k-state and baylor have some good players in their frontcourts.
it's kind of weird how withey has kind of fallen off the map lately. it's like danny stopped whispering to him or something.
He got injured in the Mizzou game, and you can't play him and T-Rob at the same time when a team plays small like Purdue and Mizzou did. Amazing how you clowns talked sh*t on Withey all season long until he started to improve, and now you're expecting him to play at the level of a 1st round draft pick/Big 12 POY.
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Seff has done a good job of neutralizing withey after his fantastic start to the year. BITB.
He didn't have a "fantastic start to the year." He had a great 3-4 game stretch where he dominated K-State, Baylor, and Oklahoma State.
ignoring the fact that you bit on what was obvious bait, that's still not a bad start. k-state and baylor have some good players in their frontcourts.
it's kind of weird how withey has kind of fallen off the map lately. it's like danny stopped whispering to him or something.
He got injured in the Mizzou game, and you can't play him and T-Rob at the same time when a team plays small like Purdue and Mizzou did. Amazing how you clowns talked sh*t on Withey all season long until he started to improve, and now you're expecting him to play at the level of 1st round draft pick.
No offense beems, but your fanbase has been harder on him than any of us.
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No perceived slight of ku shall stand!!
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He got injured in the Mizzou game, and you can't play him and T-Rob at the same time when a team plays small like Purdue and Mizzou did. Amazing how you clowns talked sh*t on Withey all season long until he started to improve, and now you're expecting him to play at the level of 1st round draft pick.
Does this hurt T-Rob's NBA prospects? Not for the draft, but potentially for long-term success. At 6'8" I would venture that he is a little bit small for a 4 in the NBA, and probably projects as a bigger wing or tweener forward. If he has trouble guarding whoever Purdue and Mizzou stuck as a small 4, that can't bode well for his ability to guard an NBA wing player, right?
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He got injured in the Mizzou game, and you can't play him and T-Rob at the same time when a team plays small like Purdue and Mizzou did. Amazing how you clowns talked sh*t on Withey all season long until he started to improve, and now you're expecting him to play at the level of 1st round draft pick.
Does this hurt T-Rob's NBA prospects? Not for the draft, but potentially for long-term success. At 6'8" I would venture that he is a little bit small for a 4 in the NBA, and probably projects as a bigger wing or tweener forward. If he has trouble guarding whoever Purdue and Mizzou stuck as a small 4, that can't bode well for his ability to guard an NBA wing player, right?
T-Rob will be a poor man's Trevor Booker his rookie year, IMO. Just for comparo's sake. I think he'll still be a top 15 pick btw...
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Myck Kabongo :lol:
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Is Royce's grandpa going to drive him to all his NBA games?
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg305%2Fcireksu%2Ftrob-1.png&hash=464dede2e8c87d4170617733f46ded32f74cdef5).
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poor selby
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He got injured in the Mizzou game, and you can't play him and T-Rob at the same time when a team plays small like Purdue and Mizzou did. Amazing how you clowns talked sh*t on Withey all season long until he started to improve, and now you're expecting him to play at the level of 1st round draft pick.
Does this hurt T-Rob's NBA prospects? Not for the draft, but potentially for long-term success. At 6'8" I would venture that he is a little bit small for a 4 in the NBA, and probably projects as a bigger wing or tweener forward. If he has trouble guarding whoever Purdue and Mizzou stuck as a small 4, that can't bode well for his ability to guard an NBA wing player, right?
T-Rob will be a poor man's Trevor Booker his rookie year, IMO. Just for comparo's sake. I think he'll still be a top 15 pick btw...
A poor man's Trevor Booker? What the hell are you smoking? He's projected to go top 3 by both draftexpress and NBADraft.net. Idiot.
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Just looked at a 2012 mock draft for the first time. My goodness what a terrible draft class. College basketball is a joke this year.
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Just looked at a 2012 mock draft for the first time. My goodness what a terrible draft class. College basketball is a joke this year.
You're kidding right? This is one of the deepest draft classes in years. Jared Sullinger and Terrence Jones would have been top 5 picks last year.
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He got injured in the Mizzou game, and you can't play him and T-Rob at the same time when a team plays small like Purdue and Mizzou did. Amazing how you clowns talked sh*t on Withey all season long until he started to improve, and now you're expecting him to play at the level of 1st round draft pick.
Does this hurt T-Rob's NBA prospects? Not for the draft, but potentially for long-term success. At 6'8" I would venture that he is a little bit small for a 4 in the NBA, and probably projects as a bigger wing or tweener forward. If he has trouble guarding whoever Purdue and Mizzou stuck as a small 4, that can't bode well for his ability to guard an NBA wing player, right?
T-Rob will be a poor man's Trevor Booker his rookie year, IMO. Just for comparo's sake. I think he'll still be a top 15 pick btw...
A poor man's Trevor Booker? What the hell are you smoking? He's projected to go top 3 by both draftexpress and NBADraft.net. Idiot.
I assumed that was a troll attempt... maybe not?
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Just looked at a 2012 mock draft for the first time. My goodness what a terrible draft class. College basketball is a joke this year.
You're kidding right? This is one of the deepest draft classes in years. Jared Sullinger and Terrence Jones would have been top 5 picks last year.
I'm not kidding. This class sucks.
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This class is loaded, especially when it comes to big men. My guess is you don't watch college basketball outside of K-State games.
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How many freshman lottery picks?
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Two freshmen are projected in the top 3.
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What about the rest of the lottery?
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This class is loaded, especially when it comes to big men. My guess is you don't watch college basketball outside of K-State games.
I watch a lot of college basketball and even more NBA basketball. This class has no star power. It's boring. I guess its a decent class of big men.
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What about the rest of the lottery?
http://nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft (http://nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft)
Austin Rivers, Andre Drummond, Bradley Beal - all projected lottery
I guess I don't really get your point. Is a draft only considered deep if it has a lot of freshmen?
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This class is loaded, especially when it comes to big men. My guess is you don't watch college basketball outside of K-State games.
I watch a lot of college basketball and even more NBA basketball. This class has no star power. It's boring. I guess its a decent class of big men.
You are so full of sh*t, dude. Perry Jones was projected in the top 3 of last year's draft, and he's down to 17 in this year's mock draft. Same with Terrence Jones and Jared Sullinger. There's tons of star power. You just choose to ignore it.
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This class is loaded, especially when it comes to big men. My guess is you don't watch college basketball outside of K-State games.
I watch a lot of college basketball and even more NBA basketball. This class has no star power. It's boring. I guess its a decent class of big men.
You are so full of sh*t, dude. Perry Jones was projected in the top 3 of last year's draft, and he's down to 17 in this year's mock draft. Same with Terrence Jones and Jared Sullinger. There's tons of star power. You just choose to ignore it.
Perry wasn't gonna be top 3 last year, and he's only fallen a couple spots max this year. 33 is right, no star power at all in this class, no need to be butthurt about it.
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This class is loaded, especially when it comes to big men. My guess is you don't watch college basketball outside of K-State games.
I watch a lot of college basketball and even more NBA basketball. This class has no star power. It's boring. I guess its a decent class of big men.
You are so full of sh*t, dude. Perry Jones was projected in the top 3 of last year's draft, and he's down to 17 in this year's mock draft. Same with Terrence Jones and Jared Sullinger. There's tons of star power. You just choose to ignore it.
Yeah, a bunch of freshmen went back to school and had disappointing sophomore seasons. This draft is full of disappointing, uninspiring tweeners.
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This class is loaded, especially when it comes to big men. My guess is you don't watch college basketball outside of K-State games.
I watch a lot of college basketball and even more NBA basketball. This class has no star power. It's boring. I guess its a decent class of big men.
You are so full of sh*t, dude. Perry Jones was projected in the top 3 of last year's draft, and he's down to 17 in this year's mock draft. Same with Terrence Jones and Jared Sullinger. There's tons of star power. You just choose to ignore it.
Yeah, a bunch of freshmen went back to school and had disappointing sophomore seasons. This draft is full of disappointing, uninspiring tweeners.
Wrong again. JFC, you're dense.
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This class is loaded, especially when it comes to big men. My guess is you don't watch college basketball outside of K-State games.
I watch a lot of college basketball and even more NBA basketball. This class has no star power. It's boring. I guess its a decent class of big men.
You are so full of sh*t, dude. Perry Jones was projected in the top 3 of last year's draft, and he's down to 17 in this year's mock draft. Same with Terrence Jones and Jared Sullinger. There's tons of star power. You just choose to ignore it.
Yeah, a bunch of freshmen went back to school and had disappointing sophomore seasons. This draft is full of disappointing, uninspiring tweeners.
Wrong again. JFC, you're dense.
Oh man, I just realized that you don't know anything about the NBA draft. At first I thought you did know something about it.
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This class is loaded, especially when it comes to big men. My guess is you don't watch college basketball outside of K-State games.
I watch a lot of college basketball and even more NBA basketball. This class has no star power. It's boring. I guess its a decent class of big men.
You are so full of sh*t, dude. Perry Jones was projected in the top 3 of last year's draft, and he's down to 17 in this year's mock draft. Same with Terrence Jones and Jared Sullinger. There's tons of star power. You just choose to ignore it.
Yeah, a bunch of freshmen went back to school and had disappointing sophomore seasons. This draft is full of disappointing, uninspiring tweeners.
Wrong again. JFC, you're dense.
Oh man, I just realized that you don't know anything about the NBA draft. At first I thought you did know something about it.
Do yourself a favor and watch a game outside of small-time K-State athletics.
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Sullinger and T-Jones both hurt their draft stocks by coming back, not sure how that can be debated.. Both had disappointing sophomore seasons, the book was out on Sullinger this season in the big 10, play physical with him in the post and try to knock him off the block and he'll struggle.. He did, but some teams (like Michigan for example) didn't have the bigs to body him..
Anyway, the point is they weren't knocked down draft boards because this draft is so much sicker bro ! They were knocked down because NBA people realized they weren't as good as they thought they were once they got more exposure..
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Sullinger and T-Jones both hurt their draft stocks by coming back, not sure how that can be debated.. Both had disappointing sophomore seasons, the book was out on Sullinger this season in the big 10, play physical with him in the post and try to knock him off the block and he'll struggle.. He did, but some teams (like Michigan for example) didn't have the bigs to body him..
Anyway, the point is they weren't knocked down draft boards because this draft is so much sicker bro ! They were knocked down because NBA people realized they weren't as good as they thought they were once they got more exposure..
Yeah, Anthony Davis, Thomas Robinson, Harrison Barnes, etc. have nothing to do with Jones and Sullinger moving down the draft board. LOL.
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If Bosz56 had only taken up OK_Cat on his $10 offer for the archives, now would be a fantastic time to bump the Oden vs. Durant thread
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Sullinger and T-Jones both hurt their draft stocks by coming back, not sure how that can be debated.. Both had disappointing sophomore seasons, the book was out on Sullinger this season in the big 10, play physical with him in the post and try to knock him off the block and he'll struggle.. He did, but some teams (like Michigan for example) didn't have the bigs to body him..
Anyway, the point is they weren't knocked down draft boards because this draft is so much sicker bro ! They were knocked down because NBA people realized they weren't as good as they thought they were once they got more exposure..
Yeah, Anthony Davis, Thomas Robinson, Harrison Barnes, have nothing to do with Jones and Sullinger moving down the draft board. LOL.
He was projected in the top 3-5 last year, this year he's projected anywhere from 10-13 that's a little more than Anthony Davis or Harrison Barnes (who was projected ahead of him last year as well) TJ was considered top 5-10 last year and is now looking at possibly being a late first rounder.. Do the math, dude..
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He got injured in the Mizzou game, and you can't play him and T-Rob at the same time when a team plays small like Purdue and Mizzou did. Amazing how you clowns talked sh*t on Withey all season long until he started to improve, and now you're expecting him to play at the level of 1st round draft pick.
Does this hurt T-Rob's NBA prospects? Not for the draft, but potentially for long-term success. At 6'8" I would venture that he is a little bit small for a 4 in the NBA, and probably projects as a bigger wing or tweener forward. If he has trouble guarding whoever Purdue and Mizzou stuck as a small 4, that can't bode well for his ability to guard an NBA wing player, right?
T-Rob will be a poor man's Trevor Booker his rookie year, IMO. Just for comparo's sake. I think he'll still be a top 15 pick btw...
A poor man's Trevor Booker? What the hell are you smoking? He's projected to go top 3 by both draftexpress and NBADraft.net. Idiot.
The fact you are referencing the sites you just did should clarify who the idiot is. LOL. Those are a joke for people not ITK. You poor thing you. BTW Trevor Booker is fantastic and if you watched him play, would be proud to have T-Rob do anything similar to him his rookie year. TIA.
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BMW only follows former KU players in the NBA. He doesn't watch games or follow actual teams.
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You guys are a bunch of f*cking idiots. If I said the earth revolved around the sun, you'd disagree with me.
http://www.hoopsmanifesto.com/articles/basketball/2012-nba-draft-consensus-mock-draft-pre-ncaa-tournament-edition.html (http://www.hoopsmanifesto.com/articles/basketball/2012-nba-draft-consensus-mock-draft-pre-ncaa-tournament-edition.html)
The 2012 edition of the NBA draft is expected to be a very deep, talented field as opposed to 2011's rather weak draft class. But who will hear their name called first by David Stern in June? Rather than fill cyberspace up with yet another mock draft, The Hoops Manifesto has determined the consensus top 60 prospects for the 2012 NBA Draft. We took the player rankings from four of the web's best: DraftExpress, NBADraft.net, CollegeHoops.Net, and Chad Ford of ESPN, crunched the numbers and came up with our list.
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/3/12/2860930/nba-mock-draft-2012-march-madness (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/3/12/2860930/nba-mock-draft-2012-march-madness)
Our first 2012 NBA Mock Draft features a lottery crew so deep even Anthony Davis can't touch his fingers to the bottom.
Mar 12, 2012 - It's March, college basketball has gone mad and it's time for NBA fans to pick out their favorite prospects to track through the next three weeks. Luckily, this has the potential to be a monstrous draft with quality deep into the first round ... provided that most of the best players exit from the college ranks.
Last year, a number of lottery prospects -- namely Harrison Barnes, John Henson, Jared Sullinger and Terrence Jones -- elected to stay in school. That left NBA teams looking at a fairly weak lottery, and that's mostly been reflected in the 2011-12 season as there are as many top-10 rookies from beyond the lottery as there are from the top 10.
Put on your clownsuits, ret*rds.
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Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2007-08 33 31.5 26.2 53.2 37.9 77.4 1.2 12.4 1.6 1.3
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didn't even win PotY. ridiculous.
I know. I can't believe I forgot how insane he was.
I thought Yahoo had a glitch when I read the box score after Beaz's first game at K-State. 32 points, 24 boards. :love:
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There is a reason all you hear about with this class is depth. There are a lot of decent players. Just no stars. Boring.
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I agree that it's a stronger class than 2011, as that was one of the weakest in recent memory..
Still would not consider it a 'strong' draft class either though..
Also, strongly disagree that Sullinger and Jones didn't expose themselves and hurt their draft stock by coming back, not even sure how this could be debated.. Harrison Barnes and Henson both waited and their draft stocks have remained largely the same, so it's not the necessarily the strength of the draft class pushing everyone back as you suggested..
In summation, it's stronger than 11 but not strong enough that the lottery picks of 2011 would be pushed back 5-10 picks in 2012 without having disappointing seasons..
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There is a reason all you hear about with this class is depth. There are a lot of decent players. Just no stars. Boring.
Anthony Davis, but yeah, other than that no super stars..
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There is a reason all you hear about with this class is depth. There are a lot of decent players. Just no stars. Boring.
Anthony Davis, but yeah, other than that no super stars..
14 and 10. Meh. I guess he's long and stuff and blocks a lot of shots. Just can't get excited about him. But you're right, he has the potential to be a very good NBA player.
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Just looked at a 2012 mock draft for the first time. My goodness what a terrible draft class. College basketball is a joke this year.
You're kidding right? This is one of the deepest draft classes in years. Jared Sullinger and Terrence Jones would have been top 5 picks last year.
:lol: this is the weakest draft class in 40+ years. Get a clue. For gods sake, T-Rob, who is basically a poor man's Trevor Booker, is projected to be a top 3 pick. That should tell you all you need to know.
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I feel like there is a difference between an NBA All Star and an NBA "star". The star-power comes with personalities. I don't see that in this draft. But there is still talent.
T-Rob is charasmatic, and will become a "star" if he performs like he should.
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There is a reason all you hear about with this class is depth. There are a lot of decent players. Just no stars. Boring.
Anthony Davis, but yeah, other than that no super stars..
14 and 10. Meh. I guess he's long and stuff and blocks a lot of shots. Just can't get excited about him. But you're right, he has the potential to be a very good NBA player.
is there something more important when discussing the NBA draft?
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There is a reason all you hear about with this class is depth. There are a lot of decent players. Just no stars. Boring.
Anthony Davis, but yeah, other than that no super stars..
14 and 10. Meh. I guess he's long and stuff and blocks a lot of shots. Just can't get excited about him. But you're right, he has the potential to be a very good NBA player.
is there something more important when discussing the NBA draft?
Usually in a #1 pick you want more than a guy with the potential to become a good player. With the #1 pick you would like an immediate superstar, a franchise type guy. Lebron James, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin. I don't see a guy like that in this draft.
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spoke with my nba guy who confirmed that this class is dogshit
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With the #1 pick you would like an immediate superstar, a franchise type guy. Lebron James, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin. I don't see a guy like that in this draft.
of course you want an immediate superstar. i want to win the powerball. guys like kyrie irving, greg oden, andrea bargnani, andrew bogut, and kwame brown get drafted #1 too.
durant jr's aren't popping into the league every year.
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With the #1 pick you would like an immediate superstar, a franchise type guy. Lebron James, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin. I don't see a guy like that in this draft.
of course you want an immediate superstar. i want to win the powerball. guys like kyrie irving, greg oden, andrea bargnani, andrew bogut, and kwame brown get drafted #1 too.
durant jr's aren't popping into the league every year.
Yeah, about half of the NBA drafts suck. And 2012 is in the suck half.
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With the #1 pick you would like an immediate superstar, a franchise type guy. Lebron James, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin. I don't see a guy like that in this draft.
of course you want an immediate superstar. i want to win the powerball. guys like kyrie irving, greg oden, andrea bargnani, andrew bogut, and kwame brown get drafted #1 too.
durant jr's aren't popping into the league every year.
Clams, both of the NBA guys I know concur that this class is short on star power and long on "solid NBA career guys". Both also think the forgeign and mid-major crowd has more upside than most of the big name college stars in this years draft...
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T-Rob will be in Europe or jail in 6 years.
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might have been posted already and i missed it but
"The most recent in a long line of talented Texas Longhorns guards, junior shooting guard J’Covan Brown, has declared himself eligible for the 2012 NBA Draft.
One of the country’s most creative scorers, the variety of offensive moves Brown has in his arsenal have caught the eye of NBA scouts and opposing coaches across the country. During the 2011-2012 season, Brown averaged a career-high 20.1 points per game, also adding 3.3 rebounds per game and 3.8 assists per game."
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Just looked at a 2012 mock draft for the first time. My goodness what a terrible draft class. College basketball is a joke this year.
You're kidding right? This is one of the deepest draft classes in years. Jared Sullinger and Terrence Jones would have been top 5 picks last year.
:lol: this is the weakest draft class in 40+ years. Get a clue. For gods sake, T-Rob, who is basically a poor man's Trevor Booker, is projected to be a top 3 pick. That should tell you all you need to know.
Wait, who is T-Rob? I mean I know alot about CBB as someone ITK, and I don't know who this person is. If he/she is indeed projected to be top 3 in this years draft, then JFC this class is dogshit.
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might have been posted already and i missed it but
"The most recent in a long line of talented Texas Longhorns guards, junior shooting guard J’Covan Brown, has declared himself eligible for the 2012 NBA Draft.
One of the country’s most creative scorers, the variety of offensive moves Brown has in his arsenal have caught the eye of NBA scouts and opposing coaches across the country. During the 2011-2012 season, Brown averaged a career-high 20.1 points per game, also adding 3.3 rebounds per game and 3.8 assists per game."
This thread blows, because of the shitty draft talk. But if this dude leaves early and gets drafted then team weak draft will have a resounding victory. What can Brown do (for your NBA team)? The answer is, not a damn thing.
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might have been posted already and i missed it but
"The most recent in a long line of talented Texas Longhorns guards, junior shooting guard J’Covan Brown, has declared himself eligible for the 2012 NBA Draft.
One of the country’s most creative scorers, the variety of offensive moves Brown has in his arsenal have caught the eye of NBA scouts and opposing coaches across the country. During the 2011-2012 season, Brown averaged a career-high 20.1 points per game, also adding 3.3 rebounds per game and 3.8 assists per game."
This thread blows, because of the shitty draft talk. But if this dude leaves early and gets drafted then team weak draft will have a resounding victory. What can Brown do (for your NBA team)? The answer is, not a damn thing.
He can shoot it. No guarantees about making them, but he'll shoot it. I could see him as a SG on a second string for a crappy team
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The world wide leader in sports is reporting Austin Rivers is going pro.
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might have been posted already and i missed it but
"The most recent in a long line of talented Texas Longhorns guards, junior shooting guard J’Covan Brown, has declared himself eligible for the 2012 NBA Draft.
One of the country’s most creative scorers, the variety of offensive moves Brown has in his arsenal have caught the eye of NBA scouts and opposing coaches across the country. During the 2011-2012 season, Brown averaged a career-high 20.1 points per game, also adding 3.3 rebounds per game and 3.8 assists per game."
This thread blows, because of the shitty draft talk. But if this dude leaves early and gets drafted then team weak draft will have a resounding victory. What can Brown do (for your NBA team)? The answer is, not a damn thing.
He can shoot it. No guarantees about making them, but he'll shoot it. I could see him as a SG on a second string for a crappy team
He's short, slow, and a good shooter not a great one
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might have been posted already and i missed it but
"The most recent in a long line of talented Texas Longhorns guards, junior shooting guard J’Covan Brown, has declared himself eligible for the 2012 NBA Draft.
One of the country’s most creative scorers, the variety of offensive moves Brown has in his arsenal have caught the eye of NBA scouts and opposing coaches across the country. During the 2011-2012 season, Brown averaged a career-high 20.1 points per game, also adding 3.3 rebounds per game and 3.8 assists per game."
This thread blows, because of the shitty draft talk. But if this dude leaves early and gets drafted then team weak draft will have a resounding victory. What can Brown do (for your NBA team)? The answer is, not a damn thing.
He can shoot it. No guarantees about making them, but he'll shoot it. I could see him as a SG on a second string for a crappy team
He's short, slow, and a good shooter not a great one
Oh I agree, I wouldn't want him. But I think someone who thinks he can add scoring to a second unit may.
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What can Brown do (for your NBA team)? The answer is, not a damn thing.
LOLOLOL
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Bradley Beal will be a superstar at the next level. Austin Rivers could be as well. Then you've got Davis, Robinson, Sullinger, T. Jones, Gilchrist, etc. This class is absolutely stacked. Only a moron K-State dork would think otherwise.
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Lotta moron dorks round here.
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lol this guy is a moron..
Davis/Beal are the only POTENTIAL superstars in the class (unless some foreign studs come in) and Beal has not even announced as of yet..
Rivers, Robinson, Gilchrist, Robinson, Sully, Jones are all the next tier of solid 2nd or 3rd options on NBA teams, at best..
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This Michigan douche has an incredibly low BBIQ. What is he even doing on this board in the first place? Sheesh.
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Bradley Beal will be a superstar at the next level. Austin Rivers could be as well. Then you've got Davis, Robinson, Sullinger, T. Jones, Gilchrist, etc. This class is absolutely stacked. Only a moron K-State dork would think otherwise.
i have literally never heard of one of those guys, and i watch sports like a lot.
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Bradley Beal will be a superstar at the next level. Austin Rivers could be as well. Then you've got Davis, Robinson, Sullinger, T. Jones, Gilchrist, etc. This class is absolutely stacked. Only a moron person employed by an NBA team to scout college players would think otherwise.
Lemme fix that for you beems. LOL