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Title: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 17, 2012, 01:31:21 PM
Good run for the Cats this year.  We weren't even supposed to make the tourney in a rebuilding year (without a star player), and we ended up winning a game and giving the #1 see a run for a while in a pod about a thousand miles away from Manhattan.

I'm really excited to see some of these guys grow some more.

Here's to a fun 2011-12 and an even better 2012-13.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 01:31:59 PM
Good run for the Cats this year.  We weren't even supposed to make the tourney in a rebuilding year (without a star player), and we ended up winning a game and giving the #1 see a run for a while in a pod about a thousand miles away from Manhattan.

I'm really excited to see some of these guys grow some more.

Here's to a fun 2011-12 and an even better 2012-13.

 :cheers:

we are going to be horrible in 2 years.  horrible.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 17, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Good run for the Cats this year.  We weren't even supposed to make the tourney in a rebuilding year (without a star player), and we ended up winning a game and giving the #1 see a run for a while in a pod about a thousand miles away from Manhattan.

I'm really excited to see some of these guys grow some more.

Here's to a fun 2011-12 and an even better 2012-13.

 :cheers:

we are going to be horrible in 2 years.  horrible.

Pfft.  People keep saying that every year, and we keep making the tourn-a-ment.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: sys on March 17, 2012, 01:33:39 PM
we are going to be horrible in 2 years.  horrible.

statements like these are traditionally offered along with a promise to self-ban if/when you are proven wrong.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: EMAWzified on March 17, 2012, 01:36:10 PM
Need a shooting guard. And a forward who can defend on the floor.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Rock Lobster on March 17, 2012, 01:36:20 PM
In 2 years you'll still be a horrible poster
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: SPE_khat on March 17, 2012, 01:37:40 PM
Our guard situation is just horrendous.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: p1k3 on March 17, 2012, 01:38:25 PM
wouldnt say giving them a run for a while is anything to hang a banner for. We looked like a 15 seed out there. Awful. Pathetic. But for the most part i agree. We get caught up in how frustrating we look, and forget for the most part we over acheived this year. Should expect sweet 16 next year. And oh yeahc FYJC.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 17, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
I mean, who can't wait to watch JO play another game?

<-------  This guy.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Panjandrum on March 17, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
Our guard situation is just horrendous.

They'll get better.  They always seem to get better under Frank, year over year.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: SPE_khat on March 17, 2012, 01:41:40 PM
Unless frank can make them more athletic and longer I don't think we are in good shape. And what about the 4? Gipson sure as hell isn't the answer with his 2 inch vertical
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: JKEYS on March 17, 2012, 01:42:13 PM
we are going to be horrible in 2 years.  horrible.

statements like these are traditionally offered along with a promise to self-ban if/when you are proven wrong.

 :sdeek:

Make it happen Carnes...
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: p1k3 on March 17, 2012, 01:46:13 PM
I mean, who can't wait to watch JO play another game?

<-------  This guy.

And Rodney  :love:
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 01:49:27 PM
Good run for the Cats this year.  We weren't even supposed to make the tourney in a rebuilding year (without a star player), and we ended up winning a game and giving the #1 see a run for a while in a pod about a thousand miles away from Manhattan.

I'm really excited to see some of these guys grow some more.

Here's to a fun 2011-12 and an even better 2012-13.

 :cheers:

we are going to be horrible in 2 years.  horrible.

Pfft.  People keep saying that every year, and we keep making the tourn-a-ment.

umm... no, they haven't.   once grudz is gone, we will be terrible.  we can't recruit.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: PowercatPat on March 17, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Our guard situation is just horrendous.

They'll get better.  They always seem to get better under Frank, year over year.

It seems like Will got worse from year one to year two.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 02:02:57 PM
Our guard situation is just horrendous.

They'll get better.  They always seem to get better under Frank, year over year.

It seems like Will got worse from year one to year two.

Shane hasn't gotten better, neither has martavious.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 17, 2012, 02:04:02 PM
Our guard situation is just horrendous.

They'll get better.  They always seem to get better under Frank, year over year.

It seems like Will got worse from year one to year two.

You are an idiot
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 17, 2012, 02:04:13 PM
Good run for the Cats this year.  We weren't even supposed to make the tourney in a rebuilding year (without a star player), and we ended up winning a game and giving the #1 see a run for a while in a pod about a thousand miles away from Manhattan.

I'm really excited to see some of these guys grow some more.

Here's to a fun 2011-12 and an even better 2012-13.

 :cheers:

we are going to be horrible in 2 years.  horrible.

Pfft.  People keep saying that every year, and we keep making the tourn-a-ment.

umm... no, they haven't.   once grudz is gone, we will be terrible.  we can't recruit.

Once Beaz is gone, once Jake is gone, once Rod is gone.  Soon it will be once Angel is gone.

You're a rough ridin' idiot, is what I am saying here.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 02:10:03 PM
Good run for the Cats this year.  We weren't even supposed to make the tourney in a rebuilding year (without a star player), and we ended up winning a game and giving the #1 see a run for a while in a pod about a thousand miles away from Manhattan.

I'm really excited to see some of these guys grow some more.

Here's to a fun 2011-12 and an even better 2012-13.

 :cheers:

we are going to be horrible in 2 years.  horrible.

Pfft.  People keep saying that every year, and we keep making the tourn-a-ment.

umm... no, they haven't.   once grudz is gone, we will be terrible.  we can't recruit.

Once Beaz is gone, once Jake is gone, once Rod is gone.  Soon it will be once Angel is gone.

You're a rough ridin' idiot, is what I am saying here.

i don't think you get it, we had other good players then, we don't now.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: PowercatPat on March 17, 2012, 02:14:38 PM
Our guard situation is just horrendous.

They'll get better.  They always seem to get better under Frank, year over year.

It seems like Will got worse from year one to year two.

You are an idiot

How? He was just as good this year if not worse. I really didn't see improvement.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 17, 2012, 02:24:35 PM
I feel good about next year.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: SabiNation on March 17, 2012, 02:26:03 PM
I feel good about next year.

If _Fan feels good, I feel good.     :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 17, 2012, 02:26:16 PM
I think we will be in just as good or better shape in 2 years than this year.  SO Upshaw and JR Angel will be better than Jr Rod/JO
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 17, 2012, 02:26:47 PM
I feel good about next year.

If _Fan feels good, I feel good.     :kstatriot:

We're going to be better. We may not win the league, but what Frank has built is solid.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 02:27:55 PM
I think we will be in just as good or better shape in 2 years than this year.  SO Upshaw and JR Angel will be better than Jr Rod/JO

how on earth can you make that claim?
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: EMAWzified on March 17, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
Upshaw's coming in with greater skills than JO. Angel's freshman year compared to Rodney's, look it up dumbass.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 17, 2012, 02:32:21 PM
I think we will be in just as good or better shape in 2 years than this year.  SO Upshaw and JR Angel will be better than Jr Rod/JO

how on earth can you make that claim?

Granted its my opinion, but I think pg is a lot more valuable of a position than anywhere else on the court.  He can make a lot of players around him better.  I love Rod and JO, but a developed point and the upside of a 5-star post could be better.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 02:33:18 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 17, 2012, 02:34:05 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
Except the last two years...
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2012, 02:34:30 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
Except the last two years...

and beasley's year
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 17, 2012, 02:34:40 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year they let me post on their message board
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: EMAWzified on March 17, 2012, 02:35:15 PM
No, next year is a crap stomping year. Going to be great fun.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 02:35:16 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
Except the last two years...

people wouldn't shut up last year about how young we were.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year they let me post on their message board


:lol:
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 02:37:21 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
Except the last two years...

and beasley's year

yeah, that was a good year,  11 seed  :drool:
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 17, 2012, 02:38:19 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
Except the last two years...

people wouldn't shut up last year about how young we were.

We were pretty young overall.  Young does not mean rebuilding.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
I am very excited for next year.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: star seed 7 on March 17, 2012, 02:39:40 PM
_fan PI's are the best.  Truely a master.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 17, 2012, 02:40:20 PM
_fan PI's are the best.  Truely a master.

If he comes for you, its over
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 02:45:02 PM
_fan PI's are the best.  Truely a master.

If he comes for you, its over

no, it isn't.   we are still terrible regardless of what _fan says.
Title: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kso_FAN on March 17, 2012, 02:50:23 PM
_fan PI's are the best.  Truely a master.

If he comes for you, its over

no, it isn't.   we are still terrible regardless of what _fan says.

If terrible = 20 wins, double digit conference wins, upper half conference finishes, and making the round of 32 every year I'm pretty good with being "terrible".

Today your posting, or what I hope is an attempt at trolling, is the only terrible thing I've seen. By my definition at least, but that's JMHO.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 17, 2012, 02:51:55 PM
If its trolling or whatever, good for Kim.  But if you really feel this way about this program, I feel sorry for you and your inability to be happy.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on March 17, 2012, 06:23:22 PM
Anyone that doesn't think KSU will be good if not great next year is a moron.
Think about this line up.
Rodriguez pg
Irving/Sprad sg
McGruder sf
Gipson pf
JO center

bench
Diaz
Irving/sprad
Southwell
Jones
Lithuanian dude
Upshaw
thats a deep team with two all conference guys in Grudz and JO and possibley a Freshman impact stud in Upshaw.
Imagine Upshaw starting at PF??
We're gonna be good guys.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Cire on March 17, 2012, 06:26:20 PM
we are going to be horrible in 2 years.  horrible.

statements like these are traditionally offered along with a promise to self-ban if/when you are proven wrong.


oh man that makes me miss zacker :sadface:
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: SPE_khat on March 17, 2012, 06:35:37 PM
Anyone that doesn't think KSU will be good if not great next year is a moron.
Think about this line up.
Rodriguez pg
Irving/Sprad sg
McGruder sf
Gipson pf
JO center

bench
Diaz
Irving/sprad
Southwell
Jones
Lithuanian dude
Upshaw
thats a deep team with two all conference guys in Grudz and JO and possibley a Freshman impact stud in Upshaw.
Imagine Upshaw starting at PF??
We're gonna be good guys.

What about that guard situation has you excited? Angel will be better but still not great and spread and tav will be the same. Gipson is not an average at best big 12 player. We will make the tourney but we won't make any noise.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 17, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
Anyone that doesn't think KSU will be good if not great next year is a moron.
Think about this line up.
Rodriguez pg
Irving/Sprad sg
McGruder sf
Gipson pf
JO center

bench
Diaz
Irving/sprad
Southwell
Jones
Lithuanian dude
Upshaw
thats a deep team with two all conference guys in Grudz and JO and possibley a Freshman impact stud in Upshaw.
Imagine Upshaw starting at PF??
We're gonna be good guys.

What about that guard situation has you excited? Angel will be better but still not great and spread and tav will be the same. Gipson is not an average at best big 12 player. We will make the tourney but we won't make any noise.

My expectations for next year are S16.  Once you get there, who knows.  But I would expect us to be 4/5/6 seed.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: BigCatbacker on March 17, 2012, 07:34:24 PM
If its trolling or whatever, good for Kim.  But if you really feel this way about this program, I feel sorry for you and your inability to be happy.

^^^ THIS

I just don't get it. If you feel that shitty about everything, I guess the only way to survive is to try and make everyone else feel shitty too.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 17, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
The Lithuanian dude . . . anybody have an real information on him?

Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 17, 2012, 07:39:17 PM
If its trolling or whatever, good for Kim.  But if you really feel this way about this program, I feel sorry for you and your inability to be happy.

He just saw the attention that bigwillie20 got and decided to do the exact same thing. Really original, that kim carnes.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Fuktard on March 17, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year they let me post on their message board

:standingovation:
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Fuktard on March 17, 2012, 08:09:54 PM
If Jones can get on the floor during Will's epic shooting slump, I don't see much hope for him.  I'm guessing he get's Frank'd, along with a few others.  I would love to see us get a solid shooting guard that could challenge for Will's minutes.  I don't hold out much hope that it happens between now and next year.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 17, 2012, 08:16:41 PM
If Jones can get on the floor during Will's epic shooting slump, I don't see much hope for him.  I'm guessing he get's Frank'd, along with a few others.  I would love to see us get a solid shooting guard that could challenge for Will's minutes.  I don't hold out much hope that it happens between now and next year.


Pay frickin attention.

Jones had a chipped bone in his ankle, happened in OU game at Norman. THAT was why he didn't play for the majority of conference season.

Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Fuktard on March 17, 2012, 08:21:42 PM
If Jones can get on the floor during Will's epic shooting slump, I don't see much hope for him.  I'm guessing he get's Frank'd, along with a few others.  I would love to see us get a solid shooting guard that could challenge for Will's minutes.  I don't hold out much hope that it happens between now and next year.


Pay frickin attention.

Jones had a chipped bone in his ankle, happened in OU game at Norman. THAT was why he didn't play for the majority of conference season.

Easy...I know he was hurt early, I was referring to games like today.  I thought he was back to 100%, if he's still gimped up, I'm off base.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 17, 2012, 08:24:21 PM
It's a shame when a player going 4-11 constitutes breaking out of a slump.

At least that's how I interepreted Sprads play today.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 17, 2012, 08:47:21 PM
It's probably already been said, but if you'd told me before the season that our team would finish 22-11, a winning conference record, and an NCAA tourney victory, I would have taken it and ran with it.

It always sucks losing, and really no telling how big of an effect the Samuels crap and Gruds' ankle had today, but trying to step back and look at the big picture, I think we hit our ceiling for this year.

No reason why it shouldn't be higher next year.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: DQ12 on March 17, 2012, 08:48:38 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
It's not always a rebuilding year, but when you lose the top scorer in program history, it is.

dumbass.

Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 08:59:07 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
It's not always a rebuilding year, but when you lose the top scorer in program history, it is.

dumbass.

what was the excuse last year?
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: DQ12 on March 17, 2012, 09:01:05 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
It's not always a rebuilding year, but when you lose the top scorer in program history, it is.

dumbass.

what was the excuse last year?
Does last year need an excuse?  We underperformed - Still got to the second round.

What should be the yearly goal for K-State bball?
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 17, 2012, 09:01:16 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
It's not always a rebuilding year, but when you lose the top scorer in program history, it is.

dumbass.

what was the excuse last year?

Where did someone on this site (good posters, not dumbass posters) ever indicate last year was a rebuilding year?

goEMAW.com has a fantastic search function.  love to see your response.  TIA.

Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kim carnes on March 17, 2012, 09:04:52 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
It's not always a rebuilding year, but when you lose the top scorer in program history, it is.

dumbass.

what was the excuse last year?

Where did someone on this site (good posters, not dumbass posters) ever indicate last year was a rebuilding year?

goEMAW.com has a fantastic search function.  love to see your response.  TIA.

it was that we were a "young" team.  you're welcome
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Barry McCockner on March 17, 2012, 09:43:49 PM
What's the take on Diaz?  He played well (very well at times), then never saw the court until the few seconds today.  For as much as Gip struggled and as many minutes as VO got this year, there must be more to it than him sucking.
Title: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: puniraptor on March 17, 2012, 09:48:45 PM
Victor graduating is an amazing roster move for us. Looking forward to next year.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Skipper44 on March 17, 2012, 09:56:12 PM
Victor graduating is an amazing roster move for us. Looking forward to next year.
Frank has to come back so we can see who he uses as a teaching tool without a preferred walk on.  It can't be Rohedler can it?
Title: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: puniraptor on March 17, 2012, 09:59:36 PM
It can't.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: The Whale on March 17, 2012, 10:01:16 PM
What about that guard situation has you excited? Angel will be better but still not great and spread and tav will be the same. Gipson is not an average at best big 12 player. We will make the tourney but we won't make any noise.

JFC.  Is our Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) fanbase this spoiled already?

We rough ridin' deserve Steve Henson as a coach and the yearly "are we in or out" CBI watch that would follow. 
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 17, 2012, 10:07:19 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year
It's not always a rebuilding year, but when you lose the top scorer in program history, it is.

dumbass.

what was the excuse last year?

Where did someone on this site (good posters, not dumbass posters) ever indicate last year was a rebuilding year?

goEMAW.com has a fantastic search function.  love to see your response.  TIA.

it was that we were a "young" team.  you're welcome

which thread was that again bro that we were all saying that about last year's team?  TIA
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: JKEYS on March 17, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
_fan PI's are the best.  Truely a master.

If he comes for you, its over

no, it isn't.   we are still terrible regardless of what _fan says.

If terrible = 20 wins, double digit conference wins, upper half conference finishes, and making the round of 32 every year I'm pretty good with being "terrible".

Today your posting, or what I hope is an attempt at trolling, is the only terrible thing I've seen. By my definition at least, but that's JMHO.

I keep thinking he'll get tired of trolling, but it's the same stuff over and over.  Rinse, wash, repeat.  Sad really.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: Winters on March 17, 2012, 11:17:22 PM
 :facepalm: Yeah next year should be fun though.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: kstatefreak42 on March 18, 2012, 12:09:26 AM
Sheldon Jeter elite combo wing who can take you off the dribble and stroke that three in yo face.


Thats what we need.

Im excited for next year.
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: MeatGeek on March 18, 2012, 03:52:22 AM
I really can't imagine anyway we won't just be freaking awesome :excited: next year, and I have a really good imagination.  I play Dungeons and Dragons. :gocho:
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: CatsFan_58 on March 18, 2012, 04:30:26 AM
Unless frank can make them more athletic and longer I don't think we are in good shape. And what about the 4? Gipson sure as hell isn't the answer with his 2 inch vertical
you are a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 18, 2012, 09:33:26 AM
will kim carnes improve in 2012-13?
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: ChiComCat on March 18, 2012, 09:41:47 AM
will kim carnes improve in 2012-13?

I have no reason to think he will but don't see how he could be worse
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: SdK on March 18, 2012, 11:48:32 PM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year they let me post on their message board


:lol:
Title: Re: Lots to build on for next year.
Post by: j-dub on March 19, 2012, 12:00:59 AM
at goEMAW.com, its always a "rebuilding" year they let me post on their message board


:lol:

was an absolute gem. love it when _FAN shows his teeth.