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Title: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on February 27, 2012, 03:25:39 PM
Wondering if anybody has it / figured out a way to stream different video formats (.mkv in particular) and spotify. Am considering, but only if this is possible.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on February 27, 2012, 03:27:50 PM
jailbreak it

also, airplay  :love:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 27, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
I think Roku has been cracked to allow this.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 29, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
if you want a ROKU 2 HD, it's for sale $50

http://www.roku.com/Roku2_HD

Install Roksbox and stream from your pc.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ChiComCat on February 29, 2012, 07:32:38 PM
I've started using an LG Smart Tv upgrader and plex - working great and Plex pulls movie posters/info so it doesnt look like crap
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mcmwcat on March 01, 2012, 08:13:15 AM
if you want a ROKU 2 HD, it's for sale $50

http://www.roku.com/Roku2_HD

Install Roksbox and stream from your pc.

did you have to set up a web server to do this?
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on March 01, 2012, 09:52:53 AM
I've started using an LG Smart Tv upgrader and plex - working great and Plex pulls movie posters/info so it doesnt look like crap

I have been using Plex on my iMac, which is currently HDMI'd to my 52", however I will be moving the iMac to another room, so I need to stream it somehow. Love Plex.
What is your tv "upgrader"?
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2012, 10:25:56 AM
why aren't you using an apple tv 2 to do that?  airplay son, airplay.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on March 01, 2012, 10:44:18 AM
why aren't you using an apple tv 2 to do that?  airplay son, airplay.

can you stream non-itunes files, like .mkv and such?
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2012, 11:01:43 AM
ya there are hacks out there in the deep internets

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/12/erica-sadun-airflick/

Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 01, 2012, 11:23:24 AM
if you want a ROKU 2 HD, it's for sale $50

http://www.roku.com/Roku2_HD

Install Roksbox and stream from your pc.

did you have to set up a web server to do this?
yes, unless you have the XS model.   The Roksbox site gives easy directions though.  http://roksbox.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on March 01, 2012, 11:28:40 AM
ya there are hacks out there in the deep internets

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/12/erica-sadun-airflick/

AirFlick  :love: :thumbs:

T-Y V-M
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2012, 11:31:37 AM
let me know if it works!   :surprised:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2012, 11:32:29 AM
you could also look into the wireless HDMI things, maybe it would work
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: theKSU on March 01, 2012, 12:02:59 PM
I think people are anticipating a new Apple TV next week, or soon. I doubt it will get any easier to stream content that isn't approved by Big Brother, however.  The new Mountain Lion will allow you to mirror your Mac desktop onto your TV. 
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on March 01, 2012, 12:41:25 PM
I think people are anticipating a new Apple TV next week, or soon. I doubt it will get any easier to stream content that isn't approved by Big Brother, however.  The new Mountain Lion will allow you to mirror your Mac desktop onto your TV.

Now that, that is just awesome. Problem solved!
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ChiComCat on March 01, 2012, 01:06:33 PM
I've started using an LG Smart Tv upgrader and plex - working great and Plex pulls movie posters/info so it doesnt look like crap

I have been using Plex on my iMac, which is currently HDMI'd to my 52", however I will be moving the iMac to another room, so I need to stream it somehow. Love Plex.
What is your tv "upgrader"?

There is an LG smart tv upgrader box I got off amazon.  Some people have been jailbreaking appletv units but I didn't want to eff with it that much.  The box is about $120 and the size of a roku.  As far as I can tell, it is completely worthless outside of streaming plex, which is fine with me
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2012, 01:48:06 PM
I think people are anticipating a new Apple TV next week, or soon. I doubt it will get any easier to stream content that isn't approved by Big Brother, however.  The new Mountain Lion will allow you to mirror your Mac desktop onto your TV. 

through Apple TV
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mcmwcat on March 01, 2012, 03:56:49 PM
if you want a ROKU 2 HD, it's for sale $50

http://www.roku.com/Roku2_HD

Install Roksbox and stream from your pc.

did you have to set up a web server to do this?
yes, unless you have the XS model.   The Roksbox site gives easy directions though.  http://roksbox.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53

thanks, mikey.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mcmwcat on March 01, 2012, 03:59:03 PM
you could also look into the wireless HDMI things, maybe it would work

had one of these.  only used for avi files and it worked fine.  but if you wanted to watch any streaming video it was super choppy.  also don't use this if you want to use tv for monitor.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 01, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
you could also look into the wireless HDMI things, maybe it would work

had one of these.  only used for avi files and it worked fine.  but if you wanted to watch any streaming video it was super choppy.  also don't use this if you want to use tv for monitor.

that's weird.  maybe you got  a pos one.  i'd suspect the main application for streaming through an hdmi extender would be video.  how racist.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ew2x4 on March 01, 2012, 11:06:26 PM
lol, appletv.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: star seed 7 on March 01, 2012, 11:21:30 PM
i have a very low apple tv and streaming in general iq, but how is apple tv any different than streaming to xbox or blu-ray player?

is this just a mac thing?

serious question.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ew2x4 on March 06, 2012, 10:26:30 AM
i have a very low apple tv and streaming in general iq, but how is apple tv any different than streaming to xbox or blu-ray player?

is this just a mac thing?

serious question.

Appletv is worse. No hulu plus.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 06, 2012, 10:31:54 AM
i have a very low apple tv and streaming in general iq, but how is apple tv any different than streaming to xbox or blu-ray player?

is this just a mac thing?

serious question.

Appletv is worse. No hulu plus.

apple tv is cheaper than the alternatives he suggested.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ew2x4 on March 06, 2012, 11:31:59 PM
You can get a bluray player with streaming for under $100
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2012, 08:33:08 AM
You can get a bluray player with streaming for under $100

sure, some POS one, thx for playing, boom roasted.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2012, 08:45:29 AM
You can get a bluray player with streaming for under $100

sure, some POS one, thx for playing, boom roasted.

I would like to have access to my entire computer on my tv, ew2x4. Appletv can provide this ALLEGEDLY.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2012, 10:03:43 AM
You can get a bluray player with streaming for under $100

sure, some POS one, thx for playing, boom roasted.

I would like to have access to my entire computer on my tv, ew2x4. Appletv can provide this ALLEGEDLY.


just use the streaming blu ray!  :lol:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ew2x4 on March 07, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
You can get a bluray player with streaming for under $100

sure, some POS one, thx for playing, boom roasted.

I would like to have access to my entire computer on my tv, ew2x4. Appletv can provide this ALLEGEDLY.


If that's your goal, there are other extenders that support many more file formats than Appletv. Roku with Plex would be best and cheapest, honestly.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2012, 09:05:48 PM
roku doesn't offer airplay support
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ew2x4 on March 07, 2012, 09:09:57 PM
Correct. You also need a Plex server. But you can also play any file type known to man.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2012, 09:11:50 PM
i have a smart tv, i just want to mirror my phone/imac onto my television.  aTv is the only way to do it in my environment. 

roku needs to step up and support airplay otherwise they can go shove a pile of crap into their nostrils.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 07, 2012, 09:12:45 PM
i have a smart tv, i just want to mirror my phone/imac onto my television.  aTv is the only way to do it in my environment. 

roku needs to step up and support airplay otherwise they can go shove a pile of crap into their nostrils.

won't happend.   Roku is partnered with Amazon, which makes them a competitor to Apple.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2012, 09:15:40 PM
so what.  if roku was smart, they'd steal customers from apple by offering the same thing as apple (airplay support), and the other crap they offer.  it doesn't have to be one or the other.  unless google says so.  which would be dumbass for roku to enter into an agreement that limits their functionality. 
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ew2x4 on March 07, 2012, 09:17:14 PM
HTPC, dude.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 07, 2012, 09:22:58 PM
so what.  if roku was smart, they'd steal customers from apple by offering the same thing as apple (airplay support), and the other crap they offer.  it doesn't have to be one or the other.  unless google says so.  which would be dumbass for roku to enter into an agreement that limits their functionality.

only Airplay can decode the DRM on Itunes media, until they gain the rights to that, it'd be useless.  And Apple isn't going to give that away.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: CHONGS on March 07, 2012, 09:24:12 PM
my roku 2 is pretty nice i guess no problems for me

amazon looks great
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 07, 2012, 09:42:48 PM
so what.  if roku was smart, they'd steal customers from apple by offering the same thing as apple (airplay support), and the other crap they offer.  it doesn't have to be one or the other.  unless google says so.  which would be dumbass for roku to enter into an agreement that limits their functionality.

only Airplay can decode the DRM on Itunes media, until they gain the rights to that, it'd be useless.  And Apple isn't going to give that away.

for something like HBO Go or Espn3, or KStateHD, from phone/iMac to television, i think aTv is the best way to go
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on March 08, 2012, 08:01:06 AM
Glad I started this thread. Some good info. AppleTV it is (sorry ew2x4).  :woot:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ew2x4 on March 08, 2012, 11:55:00 AM
It's not a bad product. Just limited on things I'd want to do.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2012, 02:51:25 PM
google tv
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Skipper44 on March 08, 2012, 10:49:15 PM


for something like HBO Go or Espn3, or KStateHD, from phone/iMac to television, i think aTv is the best way to go

How does this work? How is the pic quality?   I was under the impression atv did not do flash or silverlight sites.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Skipper44 on March 08, 2012, 10:51:38 PM
google tv

does google tv do espn3?  have tried messing around with the display kiosks at Best Buy it will never load.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 09, 2012, 08:58:08 AM


for something like HBO Go or Espn3, or KStateHD, from phone/iMac to television, i think aTv is the best way to go

How does this work? How is the pic quality?   I was under the impression atv did not do flash or silverlight sites.

maybe it doesn't.  i thought it did.  i don't have one.  what do i look like, wolfram alpha :lol:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on March 09, 2012, 09:12:27 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 09, 2012, 09:46:53 AM
yup, just did some reading, it doesn't! 

:flush:  apple tv
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ew2x4 on March 09, 2012, 06:59:55 PM
:frown:

 :lol:

360 or htpc, dude.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 10, 2012, 07:59:17 AM
:frown:

 :lol:

360 or htpc, dude.

ps3
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ew2x4 on March 27, 2012, 07:05:24 PM
:frown:

 :lol:

360 or htpc, dude.

ps3

mlb.tv, xfinity and hbogo finally released for 360. Does the PS3 have these (honest question, do not know)?
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2012, 07:24:07 PM
:frown:

 :lol:

360 or htpc, dude.

ps3

mlb.tv, xfinity and hbogo finally released for 360. Does the PS3 have these (honest question, do not know)?

those aren't on 360 users who subscribe through TWC.  at least HBO Go isn't.  i don't know what the other two are.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: kim carnes on July 26, 2012, 11:32:35 PM
Currently mirroring my macbook air on appleTV   :excited:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ben ji on July 27, 2012, 08:44:24 AM
my gf has apple tv, doesnt seem that cool at all. Basically you just watch shows/movies you download form itunes. You can also rent movies I guess but they take forever to download.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on July 27, 2012, 09:00:10 AM
my gf has apple tv, doesnt seem that cool at all. Basically you just watch shows/movies you download form itunes. You can also rent movies I guess but they take forever to download.

if you jailbreak it you can watch anything thats on your computer.*












* see previous posts in this thread
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: kim carnes on July 27, 2012, 11:41:20 AM
my gf has apple tv, doesnt seem that cool at all. Basically you just watch shows/movies you download form itunes. You can also rent movies I guess but they take forever to download.

Uh the movies stream directly to appletv so you don't have to wait at all.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2013, 06:46:36 PM
roku just got watchespn. may get one of these to replace my old WDTVLive. Was waiting for the new apple tv to come out but may just pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2013, 06:55:31 PM
roku just got watchespn.

:excited:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 12, 2013, 08:08:24 PM
I have been watching watch espn for months on my appletv. Grats though
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2013, 08:13:08 PM
roku just got watchespn. may get one of these to replace my old WDTVLive. Was waiting for the new apple tv to come out but may just pull the trigger.

twc makes you be an espn sub to use the watchespn app, not sure about other providers
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Skipper44 on November 12, 2013, 08:21:59 PM
Is anyone using a roku or xbox as a cable box? I think Roku can do twc and xbox will do comcast

Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Panjandrum on November 12, 2013, 08:28:04 PM
roku just got watchespn. may get one of these to replace my old WDTVLive. Was waiting for the new apple tv to come out but may just pull the trigger.

 :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2013, 09:18:38 PM
I am in heaven.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Tobias on November 12, 2013, 09:50:17 PM
I am in heaven.

you go pick up a roku?
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2013, 10:09:13 PM
I am in heaven.

you go pick up a roku?

I already had one and just was watching Missouri-SIU. :love:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Tobias on November 12, 2013, 10:10:32 PM
I am in heaven.

you go pick up a roku?

I already had one and just was watching Missouri-SIU. :love:

:thumbs:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: star seed 7 on November 13, 2013, 01:26:16 AM
roku has made my bedroom tv pretty great.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 13, 2013, 08:03:02 AM
I am in heaven.

you go pick up a roku?

I already had one and just was watching Missouri-SIU. :love:

do you have to have the newest Roku box? i thought i saw someone tweet that the older boxes aren't compatible.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2013, 08:04:42 AM
I am in heaven.

you go pick up a roku?

I already had one and just was watching Missouri-SIU. :love:

do you have to have the newest Roku box? i thought i saw someone tweet that the older boxes aren't compatible.

No, it's two years old. The quality wasn't perfect HD, but it was better than running an hdmi cable from my computer.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2015, 01:22:17 PM
pretty good news for cord cutters (not apple TV though)

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/01/05/dish_network_sling_tv_announcement_at_ces_you_can_now_watch_espn_without.html
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on January 08, 2015, 01:27:06 PM
that's not cutting the cord
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: KCFDcat on January 08, 2015, 01:50:26 PM
if you don't have a chromecast you're doing it wrong. couple it with a plex media server. heaven  :love:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2015, 01:52:25 PM
that's not cutting the cord

it's what the media calls people who don't use cable
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on January 08, 2015, 01:59:28 PM
i realize that.  it's still a subscribed bundled service, no different than cable

nvm i get your original point i'm dumb
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: steve dave on January 08, 2015, 01:59:51 PM
$20 a month for a handful of channels doesn't sound like good news to me
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2015, 02:00:07 PM
i realize that.  it's still a subscribed bundled service, no different than cable.

is netflix cutting the cord?
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2015, 02:02:30 PM
$20 a month for a handful of channels doesn't sound like good news to me

it does to me. :dunno:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: steve dave on January 08, 2015, 02:03:03 PM
$20 a month for a handful of channels doesn't sound like good news to me

it does to me. :dunno:

well, I'm changing my espn3 login then
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2015, 02:03:48 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on January 08, 2015, 02:05:23 PM
i realize that.  it's still a subscribed bundled service, no different than cable.

is netflix cutting the cord?
is netflix a subscribed bundled service?
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2015, 02:42:19 PM
i realize that.  it's still a subscribed bundled service, no different than cable.

is netflix cutting the cord?
is netflix a subscribed bundled service?

well it's a subscribed service, just wondering where you drew the line. i guess it's at "bundled"
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on January 08, 2015, 02:44:37 PM
wow
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: The1BigWillie on January 08, 2015, 02:49:05 PM
Xbox ONe has HBO GO, Netflix, Starz, Amazon Prime, Hulu, Watch ESPN, Scorecenter, NFL/NBA/MLB network...  etc etc... and a shitload of other channels that still require a cable subscription.  They will however be rolling out Sling TV in the next month or two... Does anyone have a rough ridin' clue what that is?
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Institutional Control on January 08, 2015, 02:59:04 PM
Xbox ONe has HBO GO, Netflix, Starz, Amazon Prime, Hulu, Watch ESPN, Scorecenter, NFL/NBA/MLB network...  etc etc... and a shitload of other channels that still require a cable subscription.  They will however be rolling out Sling TV in the next month or two... Does anyone have a rough ridin' clue what that is?

Dish Network on your computer.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: The1BigWillie on January 08, 2015, 03:00:37 PM
Xbox ONe has HBO GO, Netflix, Starz, Amazon Prime, Hulu, Watch ESPN, Scorecenter, NFL/NBA/MLB network...  etc etc... and a shitload of other channels that still require a cable subscription.  They will however be rolling out Sling TV in the next month or two... Does anyone have a rough ridin' clue what that is?

Dish Network on your computer.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on January 08, 2015, 03:03:09 PM
Xbox ONe has HBO GO, Netflix, Starz, Amazon Prime, Hulu, Watch ESPN, Scorecenter, NFL/NBA/MLB network...  etc etc... and a shitload of other channels that still require a cable subscription.  They will however be rolling out Sling TV in the next month or two... Does anyone have a rough ridin' clue what that is?

Dish Network on your computer.

 :dubious:

sling tv is what rusty linked.  you pay $20 a month and get access to those channels on your tv through your xbox one.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2015, 03:04:38 PM
It's the cheapest way to get ESPN without steve dave's watchESPN password.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Institutional Control on January 08, 2015, 03:13:44 PM
I wouldn't pay $20 a month for ESPN.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Skipper44 on January 08, 2015, 03:14:38 PM
i realize that.  it's still a subscribed bundled service, no different than cable.

is netflix cutting the cord?
is netflix a subscribed bundled service?

well it's a subscribed service, just wondering where you drew the line. i guess it's at "bundled"
I think 'clams is object to the thought that continuing pay Dish is "cutting the cord"  and a true cord cutting will only come after you can get WatchESPN direct from ESPN.

The Dish sling deal does have the positive no box rental, I am interested to learn how many streams you can use at once.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: ChiComCat on January 08, 2015, 04:11:21 PM
Do those little over the air HD boxes work well for the main networks?  Would be key for me in deciding on this new service
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Skipper44 on January 08, 2015, 04:14:42 PM
Do those little over the air HD boxes work well for the main networks?  Would be key for me in deciding on this new service
any tv made in the last 10 years only needs an antenna to get over the air HD
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2015, 04:21:14 PM
I wouldn't pay $20 a month for ESPN.

Well, if I subscribed to a standard cable package, I'd be paying what, $60-75/month? Basically for ESPN and FS1.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: star seed 7 on January 08, 2015, 04:28:56 PM
Do those little over the air HD boxes work well for the main networks?  Would be key for me in deciding on this new service

Depends on how far you are from the towers. In Manhattan I get a fuzzy Fox, that's it. In Topeka I got everything fine.

And sling TV only allows 1 stream at a time ("for now")
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: star seed 7 on January 08, 2015, 04:39:50 PM
Also, little known fact: if you get internet from the cable company, you get local channels free,at least with cox. They are on random channels like 114-4 through 117-2. My newer tv recognizes them, but my older one doesn't.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2015, 04:41:27 PM
Also, little known fact: if you get internet from the cable company, you get local channels free,at least with cox. They are on random channels like 114-4 through 117-2. My newer tv recognizes them, but my older one doesn't.

I used to w/ comcast, but they started scrambling them after about 2 years
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Skipper44 on January 08, 2015, 04:46:16 PM
Also, little known fact: if you get internet from the cable company, you get local channels free,at least with cox. They are on random channels like 114-4 through 117-2. My newer tv recognizes them, but my older one doesn't.
comcast just quit doing that a few months ago.  At one time offering the ota channels unencrypted (meaning you didn't need a box) was federally mandated but the FCC has started to give cable companies waivers so they can make everyone rent a box. #thanksobama
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: pissclams on January 08, 2015, 04:57:32 PM
I wouldn't pay $20 a month for ESPN.

Well, if I subscribed to a standard cable package, I'd be paying what, $60-75/month? Basically for ESPN and FS1.
the cheapest package you can get ESPN is $39/mo through TWC

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ESPN 2*
Food Network*
Fox*
Fox Business News*
Fox News Channel*
Fox Sports*
Fox Sports 1*
FX*
Galavision*
Golf*
HGTV*
HISTORY*
HLN*
HSN*
Lifetime*
MSNBC*
MTV*
National Geographic*
NBC*
Nickelodeon*
Oxygen*
PAC 12*
Palladia*
PBS*
QVC*
Spike TV*
SyFy*
TBS*
Telemundo*
The Weather Channel*
TLC*
TNT*
truTV*
TV Guide Network*
TV Land*
TWC DEPORTES*
TWC SPORTSNET*
Univision*
USA*
Velocity
VH 1*
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2015, 05:12:43 PM
I wouldn't pay $20 a month for ESPN.

Well, if I subscribed to a standard cable package, I'd be paying what, $60-75/month? Basically for ESPN and FS1.
the cheapest package you can get ESPN is $39/mo through TWC

A & E*
ABC*
ABC Family*
AMC*
Animal Planet*
Azteca*
BET*
Bravo*
Cartoon Network*
CBS*
CNBC*
CNN*
Comedy Central*
CSPAN*
CSPAN 2*
CSPAN 3*
CW*
Discovery*
Disney*
E!*
ESPN*
ESPN 2*
Food Network*
Fox*
Fox Business News*
Fox News Channel*
Fox Sports*
Fox Sports 1*
FX*
Galavision*
Golf*
HGTV*
HISTORY*
HLN*
HSN*
Lifetime*
MSNBC*
MTV*
National Geographic*
NBC*
Nickelodeon*
Oxygen*
PAC 12*
Palladia*
PBS*
QVC*
Spike TV*
SyFy*
TBS*
Telemundo*
The Weather Channel*
TLC*
TNT*
truTV*
TV Guide Network*
TV Land*
TWC DEPORTES*
TWC SPORTSNET*
Univision*
USA*
Velocity
VH 1*

That's a promo price and doesn't include an HD box (another $10/month). It says months 13-24 go to $45/month and then "regular rates" after that. Which would put you close to $60/month.

Where I live, the cheapest XFinity package with ESPN is $71/month (not including internet).
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: Tobias on January 08, 2015, 06:59:48 PM

Also, little known fact: if you get internet from the cable company, you get local channels free,at least with cox. They are on random channels like 114-4 through 117-2. My newer tv recognizes them, but my older one doesn't.

whoa, dunno why i never thought to try that.  i only get one of nbc, fox, abc with my antenna but get 30HD channels over my cox line.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: star seed 7 on January 08, 2015, 07:01:28 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 09, 2015, 01:33:43 PM
ESPN charges providers almost 7 dollars per subscriber a month for that one channel. I think the next highest priced channel is TNT which comes in around 1.80 a month.

I remember trying to set up the watchESPN contract for the cable company I use to work for.  I believe the initial charge was 10 cents a subscriber per month, and then every year after that it went up .01 

Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: star seed 7 on February 23, 2015, 06:16:08 PM
my watchespn login (my mom's) hasn't been working the last few days for some reason, so i'm going to give this slingtv thing a try tonight.  7 day free trial.  will report back
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: star seed 7 on February 23, 2015, 06:18:14 PM
also they have  deal right now where you can get a fire stick or roku stick free when you prepay 3 months of sling tv.  that's almost the cost of the device itself, so if you're thinking about getting one of those, check it out.  there is also like 50percent off roku3 and some other device.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: cfbandyman on February 24, 2015, 12:23:06 AM
my watchespn login (my mom's) hasn't been working the last few days for some reason, so i'm going to give this slingtv thing a try tonight.  7 day free trial.  will report back

I've been using sling for about two weeks. It's not too bad. Watching the ku game tonight was pretty good at some points, but had a few issues at others, though I think that's more on my ISP than sling, cause SC after the game was very very good in terms of quality. I just think a ton of ku fans streaming the game as I was were turning it off at the end, so I had more local bandwith to use. I'm glad it finally came to Fire Stick TV (which I got when it was $19 for Prime members a few months back). I like the Fire Stick TV pretty well, but i think using the $50 off sling TV deal for Fire TV (and Amazon was running a $15 off promotion recently, so don't know if you could get both to apply) is a good deal, and would probably be better for streaming cause you can use ethernet where Fire Stick TV you can't (especially for google fiber cats). Really, with sling TV for ESPN and buying a $10 antenna to get about 30 local channels (ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox) for me has made it feasible to just totally drop cable and go internet only. I know that's not feasible for some people but I really don't watch that much TV and paying $20/month for sling + $45ish for internet and having an Amazon prime subscription + OTA channels is easily enough to keep me entertained while not shelling out $140/month that TWC recently raised my rates to before I cancelled with them.
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: star seed 7 on February 24, 2015, 08:25:06 AM
Seemed like slightly better quality than watchespn, but at the end of the half the sound was f'd up and not synced so I restarted it and espn wouldn't connect then. So I switched over to watchespn app instead. Might be worth it for March madness with tnt and tbs.  If they added comedy central I'd sub for sure
Title: Re: Apple TV, et al
Post by: cfbandyman on February 24, 2015, 01:15:34 PM
Seemed like slightly better quality than watchespn, but at the end of the half the sound was f'd up and not synced so I restarted it and espn wouldn't connect then. So I switched over to watchespn app instead. Might be worth it for March madness with tnt and tbs.  If they added comedy central I'd sub for sure

See I had the opposite, mine got better as the game went on (but I did have to recent at halftime). Comedy Central would be pretty cool, but I also watch most of my shows the next day off their site anyways, it's what I did in college and it works for me.