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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: massofcatfan on February 13, 2012, 02:26:54 PM
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Black athletes were playing for Clair Bee at Long Island University by 1933, but KU didn’t put a black player on the court until LaVannes Squires joined the team in 1952. McLendon admitted to Katz that skin color wasn’t the only obstacle standing between him and a spot on the Jayhawks—though quick and cerebral, McLendon had been cut from his high school basketball team three times. He was a former lifeguard and an excellent swimmer, though, and he expected to ace the mandatory swimming test required for his degree. But when McLendon showed up at the on-campus pool to work out, he found it half empty. He was told it was drained every Wednesday.
McLendon came back on Thursday, and found the pool empty again. Nobody had told him the pool was segregated, perhaps because no colored student had tried to swim there before. The school’s passive-aggressive trick exposed a weakness he could exploit—a fear of direct confrontation.
http://theclassical.org/articles/everybody-into-the-pool (http://theclassical.org/articles/everybody-into-the-pool)
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McLendon was allowed to meet with athletic director (and head basketball coach) Forrest “Phog” Allen to negotiate for the rights of black students who wanted to swim in the pool. Civil disobedience had brought his crusade to the attention of KU’s most powerful men, and McLendon resolved to close the deal peacefully. When Allen stated—perhaps a bit disingenuously—that he hesitated to integrate the pool out of concern for McLendon’s safety, the younger man had a ready answer: Open the pool to mixed swimming for two weeks, and if nothing untoward occurred during that time, the pool would be open to all.
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We're not racists!!! We won the Civil War for you guys!
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We're not racists!!! We won the Civil War for you guys!
The hell?
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So Mizzou's football stadium and KU's basketball arena are named after documented racists. Fitting.
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So Mizzou's football stadium and KU's basketball arena are named after documented racists. Fitting.
It's amazing we were able to win the civil war having to fight racists on both sides of the state lines.
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So Mizzou's football stadium and KU's basketball arena are named after documented racists. Fitting.
It's amazing we were able to win the civil war having to fight racists on both sides of the state lines.
This is as tragic as it is unsurprising.
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"When things got testy, professor Naismith detailed a pair of intimidating football players to guard the Robinson pool during John’s aquatic training."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't think any KU football player has ever been intimidating...
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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If oregonhawk says it, it MUST be true.
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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one bad apple versus systemic and institutionalized racism.
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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one bad apple versus systemic and institutionalized racism.
Nope. Multiple K-State fans took part in it, and that was in the 1970's, not the '50's.
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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one bad apple versus systemic and institutionalized racism.
Nope. Multiple K-State fans took part in it, and that in the 1970's, not the '50's.
link?
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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it's a well known fact that the player was allergic to bananas, which is why they threw them.
google is your friend, beems. :rolleyes:
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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one bad apple versus systemic and institutionalized racism.
Nope. Multiple K-State fans took part in it, and that in the 1970's, not the '50's.
link?
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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one bad apple versus systemic and institutionalized racism.
A few fans doing something stupid is a lot different than the Fuhrer of the University participating in racism.
Nope. Multiple K-State fans took part in it, and that in the 1970's, not the '50's.
link?
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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one bad apple versus systemic and institutionalized racism.
Nope. Multiple K-State fans took part in it, and that in the 1970's, not the '50's.
They had to take a break from throwing red and blue chickens. uk's players wanted to eat them. :dunno:
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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one bad apple versus systemic and institutionalized racism.
Nope. Multiple K-State fans took part in it, and that in the 1970's, not the '50's.
He was cramping up....it was TSC to the fullest.
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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It wasn't their fault that Von Moore looked like Diddy Kong. It wasn't like KSU fans were pelting all the other black players with bananas. I don't think he deserved it, but I don't think it was racist. Segregating university pools is pretty racist though.
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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one bad apple versus systemic and institutionalized racism.
Nope. Multiple K-State fans took part in it, and that in the 1970's, not the '50's.
link?
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/jan/30/rivalry-reborn/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/jan/30/rivalry-reborn/)
As far as the bananas?
Owens remembers them being hurled as missiles in just one Sunflower Showdown in his 19 seasons — KU’s 75-63 victory on Feb. 11, 1978, in KSU’s Ahearn Fieldhouse.
“I had gotten a call the week of the game warning me that the stores in Manhattan had sold out of bananas,” Owens said.
Fruit-loving KSU fans apparently were miffed that a handful of hot dogs were tossed at Wildcat forward Curtis Redding in the Jayhawks’ 56-52 victory on Jan. 21 in Allen Fieldhouse.
“I instructed our guys to go shake hands with coach Hartman as they were introduced. I figured no way they’d throw anything at coach Hartman. I think Jack thought, ‘What a nice gesture.’’’
The fans ended up hurling the bananas in the second half.
“There had to be a 20- to 30-minute delay while they cleaned the floor. The TV network was upset about that — think of all that air-time wasted. Coach (John) Wooden was doing color at the game and wasn’t too pleased (at the lack of sportsmanship),” Owens said.
A KSU fan wore a gorilla costume to the game and stalked the KU bench.
“It ticked us off,” former KU power forward Donnie Von Moore said in a 2007 interview with the Journal-World, “because at first we thought it had some racial connotations. They were basically calling us gorillas. Later they said we threw hot dogs so they threw bananas. It’s just food. We beat them, so that’s what mattered.”
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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It wasn't their fault that Von Moore looked like Diddy Kong. It wasn't like KSU fans were pelting all the other black players with bananas. I don't think he deserved it, but I don't think it was racist. Segregating university pools is pretty racist though.
Wow... just wow.
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Also Jayhawkers used guerilla warfare.
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Seems like a few jackass students versus a disgusting set of Jim Crow laws. Kind of scary that Phog was such a racist.
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Quick someone find me a banana.
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Quick someone find me a banana.
:lol:
I think a point is going missed here, buying all the bananas in town in the winter.... :kstategrad:
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Seems like a few jackass students versus a disgusting set of Jim Crow laws. Kind of scary that Phog was such a racist.
Yes the difference is that our racists are nameless, faceless cowards. At Kansas and Missouri they get buildings named after them, they are forever honored and revered. I guess that Beware of the Phog means beware of the phog chapter of the KU Klux Klan whipping you for using the wrong bathroom.
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You guys seriously didn't know what "Beware of the Phog" meant? "Pay heed all who enter?" It's all about racism.
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In all fairness, I was raised a Kentucky fan. Rupp Arena. Maybe it's a pre-req to being a blue blood? :facepalm:
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In all fairness, I was raised a Kentucky fan. Rupp Arena. Maybe it's a pre-req to being a blue blood? :facepalm:
Nah man, Rupp brought his KU instilled racism to UK. Phog taught him well.
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My guess is Dean Smith got out of Lawrence as quick as possible and tried to never look back. Then he sent Roy back to clean up the place because he felt bad years later.
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You guys seriously didn't know what "Beware of the Phog" meant? "Pay heed all who enter?" It's all about racism.
Up until about 1969, it actually read, "Beware of the White Phog" and "Pay heed all who enter (No Coloreds allowed)". Things really haven't changed much.
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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So you readily admit that this is only a problem because the athlete in question was black?
Do you find it a bit odd that you would not have a problem with this if it happened to a white athlete who looked similar?
Racist.
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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So you readily admit that this is only a problem because the athlete in question was black?
Do you find it a bit odd that you would not have a problem with this if it happened to a white athlete who looked similar?
Racist.
The only reason you're defending the racist behavior is because it happened at K-State. That's just sad.
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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So you readily admit that this is only a problem because the athlete in question was black?
Do you find it a bit odd that you would not have a problem with this if it happened to a white athlete who looked similar?
Racist.
The only reason you're defending the racist behavior is because it happened at K-State. That's just sad.
I don't excuse those students at all. It is disgusting, and I hate it. Just glad we didn't name any buildings after that disgusting brand of racism. Would forever taint it as a monument to Jim Crow.
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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So you readily admit that this is only a problem because the athlete in question was black?
Do you find it a bit odd that you would not have a problem with this if it happened to a white athlete who looked similar?
Racist.
The only reason you're defending the racist behavior is because it happened at K-State. That's just sad.
How many times did Martin Luther King Jr go to KU?
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K-State fans threw bananas at a black KU athlete because of the way he looked.
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So you readily admit that this is only a problem because the athlete in question was black?
Do you find it a bit odd that you would not have a problem with this if it happened to a white athlete who looked similar?
Racist.
The only reason you're defending the racist behavior is because it happened at K-State. That's just sad.
Cite a defense of any racist behavior in any of my posts ever.
CITE IT!
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Sorry to drag this back up, but I felt the OP kinda missed some of the key, and truly disgusting, quotes from the story:
Still the situation escalated. While walking across campus one day, John spotted a hand-lettered sign: “Do not swim with the n****r.” John pulled that one down and collected several more that he found in the area and took them directly to Dr. Naismith.
McLendon met with the other sixty-odd black students at KU and explained his plan: Stay away from the pool for two more weeks, and we can have it forever. When the two weeks passed quietly, Allen called McLendon a “smart-aleck” but lived up to his promise. The pool was open to all students from that day forward.
It's embarrassing to this state that KU is allowed to honor the memory of such an obvious racist by not changing the name of their arena. If anything, it should be named for Naismith, who was evidently the only higher-up at KU at that time who wasn't racist.
Of course, that piss-smelling, rat-infested old shack is a somewhat fitting tribute for a disgusting racist like Phog Allen.
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Sorry to drag this back up, but I felt the OP kinda missed some of the key, and truly disgusting, quotes from the story:
Still the situation escalated. While walking across campus one day, John spotted a hand-lettered sign: “Do not swim with the n****r.” John pulled that one down and collected several more that he found in the area and took them directly to Dr. Naismith.
McLendon met with the other sixty-odd black students at KU and explained his plan: Stay away from the pool for two more weeks, and we can have it forever. When the two weeks passed quietly, Allen called McLendon a “smart-aleck” but lived up to his promise. The pool was open to all students from that day forward.
It's embarrassing to this state that KU is allowed to honor the memory of such an obvious racist by not changing the name of their arena. If anything, it should be named for Naismith, who was evidently the only higher-up at KU at that time who wasn't racist.
Of course, that piss-smelling, rat-infested old shack is a somewhat fitting tribute for a disgusting racist like Phog Allen.
In KU's defense I think they were going to rename Phog Allen after one of their big donors but changed course when they had a hard time finding one not under investigation by the FBI/SEC/etc.
Edit: Although I guess they could rename it after that one guy who used to be a K-State fan but switched teams?
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Wow