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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: wes mantooth on January 23, 2012, 02:19:20 PM
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Stoops
Brown
Weiss
Patterson
Gundy
Briles
Holgerson
Snyder
Tubberville
Proud
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switch patterson and weiss and switch snyder and holgersen and i think you have it right.
:cheers:
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I would do what OK says and drop Briles a couple spots 'til he has a go without Griffin
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switch patterson and weiss and switch snyder and holgersen and i think you have it right.
:cheers:
See your point on Snyder/Holgersen. Not sure i see your point on Patterson over Weiss.
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switch patterson and weiss and switch snyder and holgersen and i think you have it right.
:cheers:
See your point on Snyder/Holgersen. Not sure i see your point on Patterson over Weiss.
rose bowl is way better than the super bowl. :dunno:
holgersen will probably pass snyder next year, but i just have to see him without the other guy's players, ya know?
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switch patterson and weiss and switch snyder and holgersen and i think you have it right.
:cheers:
See your point on Snyder/Holgersen. Not sure i see your point on Patterson over Weiss.
rose bowl is way better than the super bowl. :dunno:
holgersen will probably pass snyder next year, but i just have to see him without the other guy's players, ya know?
Patterson got to the Rose bowl by beating the likes of Wyoming and SMU. Weiss was beating the Indianapolis Colts. :dunno:
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LOL at having Brown so high
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LOL at having Brown so high
If there was a spot above 1 I would put him there. alas...
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switch patterson and weiss and switch snyder and holgersen and i think you have it right.
:cheers:
See your point on Snyder/Holgersen. Not sure i see your point on Patterson over Weiss.
rose bowl is way better than the super bowl. :dunno:
holgersen will probably pass snyder next year, but i just have to see him without the other guy's players, ya know?
Patterson got to the Rose bowl by beating the likes of Wyoming and SMU. Weiss was beating the Indianapolis Colts. :dunno:
weiss had playboy tom brady. who did gpatt have?
looks like i win this time, wes mantooth.
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switch patterson and weiss and switch snyder and holgersen and i think you have it right.
:cheers:
See your point on Snyder/Holgersen. Not sure i see your point on Patterson over Weiss.
rose bowl is way better than the super bowl. :dunno:
holgersen will probably pass snyder next year, but i just have to see him without the other guy's players, ya know?
Patterson got to the Rose bowl by beating the likes of Wyoming and SMU. Weiss was beating the Indianapolis Colts. :dunno:
weiss had playboy tom brady. who did gpatt have?
looks like i win this time, wes mantooth.
Ginger playboy Andy Dalton. checkmate :comehere:
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LOL at having Brown so high
feel free to rank them yourself
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As of today...imho
Stoops- (championship, big 12 ownership)
Brown- (championship)
Gundy- (I'm a man)
Snyder- (Would be higher if recruiting wasn't involved)
Patterson- (Defense, overachiever)
Holgerson- (up in the air, bcs bowl)
Briles- (for getting RG3 i suppose, building program)
Weis- (give him time)
Tubberville- (sorry Chings, needs new offense imo)
Proud- (probably should be higher)
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Mack Brown in a landslide. He makes the most money. Plus he get his admins to build great facilities and he is AWESOME with the press. Hope this fits in with the other dumbass posts in this thread.
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Mack Brown in a landslide. He makes the most money. Plus he get his admins to build great facilities and he is AWESOME with the press. Hope this fits in with the other dumbass posts in this thread.
So far this has been the only real dumbass post.
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switch patterson and weiss and switch snyder and holgersen and i think you have it right.
:cheers:
See your point on Snyder/Holgersen. Not sure i see your point on Patterson over Weiss.
rose bowl is way better than the super bowl. :dunno:
holgersen will probably pass snyder next year, but i just have to see him without the other guy's players, ya know?
Patterson got to the Rose bowl by beating the likes of Wyoming and SMU. Weiss was beating the Indianapolis Colts. :dunno:
weiss had playboy tom brady. who did gpatt have?
looks like i win this time, wes mantooth.
Ginger playboy Andy Dalton. checkmate :comehere:
owned (again)
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LOL at having Brown so high
If there was a spot above 1 I would put him there. alas...
With his choice of practically any bluechip prospect he wants in the state of Texas, multimillion dollar budget for recruiting staff and position coaches, and state of art facilities Steve Dave could do as well as Brown. God only knows what a LHC Bill Snyder could/would do.
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Stoops
Gundy
Holgerson
Snyder
Brown
Patterson
Briles
Tubberville
Proud
Weiss
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LOL at having Brown so high
If there was a spot above 1 I would put him there. alas...
With his choice of practically any bluechip prospect he wants in the state of Texas, multimillion dollar budget for recruiting staff and position coaches, and state of art facilities Steve Dave could do as well as Brown. God only knows what a LHC Bill Snyder could/would do.
Neither LHC Bill Snyder nor Steve Dave would be able to recruit at the level Mack recruits at.
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LOL at having Brown so high
If there was a spot above 1 I would put him there. alas...
With his choice of practically any bluechip prospect he wants in the state of Texas, multimillion dollar budget for recruiting staff and position coaches, and state of art facilities Steve Dave could do as well as Brown. God only knows what a LHC Bill Snyder could/would do.
Neither LHC Bill Snyder nor Steve Dave would be able to recruit at the level Mack recruits at.
I bet stevesie60 could. Of course, he's a very charismatic young man.
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LOL at having Brown so high
If there was a spot above 1 I would put him there. alas...
With his choice of practically any bluechip prospect he wants in the state of Texas, multimillion dollar budget for recruiting staff and position coaches, and state of art facilities Steve Dave could do as well as Brown. God only knows what a LHC Bill Snyder could/would do.
Neither LHC Bill Snyder nor Steve Dave would be able to recruit at the level Mack recruits at.
I bet stevesie60 could. Of course, he's a very charismatic young man.
Maybe, but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who could also handle the Texas politics involved with the job. Mack is the best coach Texas could have right now, and they will probably never have another coach as good as him moving forward.
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As of today...imho
Stoops- (championship, big 12 ownership)
Brown- (championship)
Gundy- (I'm a man)
Snyder- (Would be higher if recruiting wasn't involved)
Patterson- (Defense, overachiever)
Holgerson- (up in the air, bcs bowl)
Briles- (for getting RG3 i suppose, building program)
Weiss- (give him time)
Tubberville- (sorry Chings, needs new offense imo)
Proud- (probably should be higher)
This is spot on, but I'll say that the only thing we have to judge Weis at this point is his last year at ND, so for now I'll put him at the very bottom.
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His last name isn't weiss FWIW.
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His last name isn't weiss FWIW.
Ya I was wondering if everyone was doing that as some sort of joke or something. I guess not.
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Snyder is #1 per Terrence Newman. He said it right after we rehired him. And this article was written by a KU douche in 2010 right after we stomped them.
http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/10/terence-newman-was-right-ksus-bill-snyde.html (http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/10/terence-newman-was-right-ksus-bill-snyde.html)
This pains me to admit, but the best coach in the Big 12 is Kansas State's LHC Bill Snyder.
I distinctly recall when Snyder returned to the gig a couple of years I asked former Wildcats and current Dallas Cowboys DB Terence Newman what he thought of the move. I thought it reeked of desperation, and that the Cats were trying to re-create what was no more. That this was going to be more proof that you can never go home again.
T-New said the guy just wins. T-New was right.
Even as a Kansas grad, it's hard to ignore what the man does. Especially now.
If you've never been to Manhattan, Kan. you will quickly realize that recruiting to this town isn't necessarily easy. This is a rural area that is difficult to reach, among other things.
But Snyder continues to rank as one of the most impressive head coaches in the modern era. To win on the scale that Kansas State has in his two tenures in Manhattan is remarkable; he is 145-64-1.
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As of today...imho
Stoops- (championship, big 12 ownership)
Brown- (championship)
Gundy- (I'm a man)
Snyder- (Would be higher if recruiting wasn't involved)
Patterson- (Defense, overachiever)
Holgerson- (up in the air, bcs bowl)
Briles- (for getting RG3 i suppose, building program)
Weiss- (give him time)
Tubberville- (sorry Chings, needs new offense imo)
Proud- (probably should be higher)
If we're taking recruiting into the equation, I'm good with this list if you flip Rhodes with Weis.
Weis is easily the worst coach in the conference. Tuberville won at Auburn.
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His last name isn't weiss FWIW.
yeah, i realized that. Thought wes mantooth did it on purpose as some sort of slight. my bad.
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Stoops
Brown
Patterson
Gundy
Briles
Tubberville
Holgerson
Weiss
Snyder
Roades
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Brown
Stoops
Gundy
Snyder
Patterson
Briles
Holgerson
Rhodes
Tuberville
Weis
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Holgo is way underrated here. I think the jury is still out on Weiss.
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Browny
Stoopsy
Gundy
Patty
Snydy
Holgy
Brilesy
Tubbsy
Weissy
Shitty Roades McWorstersonpants
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Brown
Stoops
Tuberville
Snyder
Gundy
Patterson
Holgerson
Briles
Weis
Rhodes (don't care how its spelled)
above is based on total body of work thus far
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Brown
Stoops
Tuberville
Snyder
Gundy
Patterson
Holgerson
Briles
Weis
Rhodes (don't care how its spelled)
above is based on total body of work thus far
:lol:
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By the Numbers, FWIW
Stoops .803
Patterson .784
Holgerson .769
Brown .667
Gundy .662
Snyder .656
Tuberville .630
Weis .564
Briles .526
Rhodes .473
Obiviously Holgerson's body of work is small and GPat's was in a inferior league but to me the take way is Bob is the best coach in this league by far.
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If I were a university president hiring today for Average Big 12 University, this would be my ranking:
1) Gundy (Recruits, good game coach, hungry for title, young.)
2) Patterson (Gundy, except a bit less on each category.)
3) Stoops (Wins. A lot. But how much longer does he want to coach, and can he get back to national title pinnacle?)
4) Holgorson (Seems on good track, but relatively unproven.)
5) Briles (Can recruit. Game coaching is iffy. Relatively young.)
6) Rhodes (Seems solid. Can he be spectacular?)
7) Brown (If he were 10 years younger, he'd be #1.)
8) Tuberville (Could move back up this list pretty fast over the Rhodes and Briles of the world.)
9) Snyder (If he were 25 years younger, he'd be #1.)
10) Weis (This isn't going to end well.)
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If I were a university president hiring today for Average Big 12 University, this would be my ranking:
1) Gundy (Recruits, good game coach, hungry for title, young.)
2) Patterson (Gundy, except a bit less on each category.)
3) Stoops (Wins. A lot. But how much longer does he want to coach, and can he get back to national title pinnacle?)
4) Holgorson (Seems on good track, but relatively unproven.)
5) Briles (Can recruit. Game coaching is iffy. Relatively young.)
6) Rhodes (Seems solid. Can he be spectacular?)
7) Brown (If he were 10 years younger, he'd be #1.)
8) Tuberville (Could move back up this list pretty fast over the Rhodes and Briles of the world.)
9) Snyder (If he were 25 years younger, he'd be #1.)
10) Weis (This isn't going to end well.)
good list based on criteria. I would move stoops above patterson and Brown above Rhodes and Briles.
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The only recruiting Brown needs to do is decide which 5* to turn down.