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@DaveSittler reports #Sooners sources confirm Brent Venables has been offered DC job at #WVU. Mike coming in changes everything, I guess.
:horrorsurprise:
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FYBS
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GOD DAMMIT!
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Yeah, the cosh support is bullshit.
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I have dreamed a dream and now that dream has gone from me.
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Would he ever take that job? Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.
This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.
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Would he ever take that job? Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.
This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.
Maybe he feels there's more opportunity if he gets out from under Stoops' shadow?
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Would he ever take that job? Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.
This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.
Maybe he feels there's more opportunity if he gets out from under Stoops' shadow?
Where is the move "up" from DC at WV. Maybe the Syracuse DC job will open someday if he is patient.
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Would he ever take that job? Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.
This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.
Mikey being back in town changes things.
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Would he ever take that job? Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.
This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.
Maybe he feels there's more opportunity if he gets out from under Stoops' shadow?
Yeah, the writing couldn't be more on the wall. Not only is he never gonna get crap while stoops is there, but they just went and hired a second stoops that will be in charge of what was Venzy's gig.
Stoops me once, shame on you. Stoops me twice, I gotta get the eff out of Oklahoma.
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Venables sucks. He's a bad d coordinator. Better than what we have, but definitely not the deity this board treats him like.
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Would he ever take that job? Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.
This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.
Mikey being back in town changes things.
It's kind of a symbolic slap in the face to Venzy because he knows Mike is going to be the real DC. It's a demotion, and everyone knows it.
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Venables sucks. He's a bad d coordinator. Better than what we have, but definitely not the deity this board treats him like.
but man can the guy recruit
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Would he ever take that job? Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.
This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.
Mikey being back in town changes things.
It's kind of a symbolic slap in the face to Venzy because he knows Mike is going to be the real DC. It's a demotion, and everyone knows it.
So hang for a year, strengthen your recruiting ties, and make a HC move when a good but not great one opens. Don't take 3 steps back and possibly give up a recruiting pipeline you built.
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Venables sucks. He's a bad d coordinator.
This is not true.
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Venables sucks. He's a bad d coordinator.
This is not true.
On second thought, after doing a little research, I agree.
Venables doesn't suck.
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Venables sucks. He's a bad d coordinator.
This is not true.
On second thought, after doing a little research, I agree.
Venables doesn't suck.
you may be right about the deity part, though.
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Would he ever take that job? Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.
This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.
Mikey being back in town changes things.
It's kind of a symbolic slap in the face to Venzy because he knows Mike is going to be the real DC. It's a demotion, and everyone knows it.
So hang for a year, strengthen your recruiting ties, and make a HC move when a good but not great one opens. Don't take 3 steps back and possibly give up a recruiting pipeline you built.
But if WVU joins, is he really giving up a pipeline? The guy has been in the area for over 15 years. He'll still be recruiting here while he's at WVU, presumably.
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Venables sucks. He's a bad d coordinator.
This is not true.
On second thought, after doing a little research, I agree.
Venables doesn't suck.
you may be right about the deity part, though.
Can we settle on urban legend? Deity seems strong.
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Venables sucks. He's a bad d coordinator.
This is not true.
On second thought, after doing a little research, I agree.
Venables doesn't suck.
you may be right about the deity part, though.
It's just, I have a few Oklahoma friends, you know? I also like to read OU boards. And they all hate Venzy. Hate him. Blame him for every defect in OU's game. They say they want him gone yesterday. It's a lot like our sentiments of Cosh. Just a bad d-coordinator.
But then you look at the numbers...and he's got the best defense in the big 12. OU fans, I don't even know.
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It's just, I have a few Oklahoma friends, you know? I also like to read OU boards. And they all hate Venzy. Hate him. Blame him for every defect in OU's game. They say they want him gone yesterday. It's a lot like our sentiments of Cosh. Just a bad d-coordinator.
But then you look at the numbers...and he's got the best defense in the big 12. OU fans, I don't even know.
Yeah. I mostly want him because:
1) Recruiting
2) He's attainable
Other than giving some young hot-shot-recruiting kid a shot (like when I wanted Snyder to initially hire someone like Major Applewhite or Billy Gonzales for OC first time around), Venzy is our best possible option. And he's probably better than the kids.
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It's just, I have a few Oklahoma friends, you know? I also like to read OU boards. And they all hate Venzy. Hate him. Blame him for every defect in OU's game. They say they want him gone yesterday. It's a lot like our sentiments of Cosh. Just a bad d-coordinator.
But then you look at the numbers...and he's got the best defense in the big 12. OU fans, I don't even know.
Yeah. I mostly want him because:
1) Recruiting
2) He's attainable
Other than giving some young hot-shot-recruiting kid a shot (like when I wanted Snyder to initially hire someone like Major Applewhite or Billy Gonzales for OC first time around), Venzy is our best possible option. And he's probably better than the kids.
He's a young option with a resume, especially if the WVU defense is good, that you can justify to make a head coach.
If he went there for two years and came back as our HCIW, it's a young, well-known face you can build around. Also, it kind of deflects some of the animosity after 98 since he'll have a chance to distance himself from OU and Stoops.
If we want him to coach here, eventually, this may be a good thing in the grand scheme of things.
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would be a ridiculous get by WVU going into the Big 12. great texas recruiting right out of the gates in the new confy. wow.
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gee, what a mystery this is. why on earth would venzy want to go coach for dana "8-ball" holgorsen?
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gee, what a mystery this is. why on earth would venzy want to go coach for dana "8-ball" holgorsen?
:thumbs:
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Venables sucks. He's a bad d coordinator.
This is not true.
On second thought, after doing a little research, I agree.
Venables doesn't suck.
you may be right about the deity part, though.
Can we settle on urban legend? Deity seems strong.
Nope, let's go with deity.
Compared to Chris Cosh, I'm perfectly comfortable calling Venzy deity.
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:lol:
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has cosh landed anyone? like, iirc, he got lamont clarke? with venzy, we stand a fighting chance on wichita kids looking at osu.
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gee, what a mystery this is. why on earth would venzy want to go coach for dana "8-ball" holgorsen?
I didn't know venzy was a pool shark :dunno:
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Would he ever take that job? Seems he would stick it out at OU and take a low level HC job.
This would be less than lateral, he would play against OU, he would be moving 1000 miles from his recruiting base.
Mikey being back in town changes things.
It's kind of a symbolic slap in the face to Venzy because he knows Mike is going to be the real DC. It's a demotion, and everyone knows it.
So hang for a year, strengthen your recruiting ties, and make a HC move when a good but not great one opens. Don't take 3 steps back and possibly give up a recruiting pipeline you built.
But if WVU joins, is he really giving up a pipeline? The guy has been in the area for over 15 years. He'll still be recruiting here while he's at WVU, presumably.
Not all of it but recruiting a TX kid to Norman is different than recruiting him to Morgantown.
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Come home Brent. We would never subject you to blatant nepotism like that. Oh wait....
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Need to offer blow on hooker's bellies.
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Come home Brent. We would never subject you to blatant nepotism like that. Oh wait....
The time is now, Brent.
Cosh is all boxed up and out the door to South Florida and now you can come home where you belong.
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Venzy won't come as long as there is any chance Sean gets the HC nod.
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Venzy won't come as long as there is any chance Sean gets the HC nod.
We have discussed this before. Currie and the Animal will not allow Now let us dream.
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Clemson: The Tulsa World is reporting Brent Venables is now a serious candidate for the Clemson defensive coordinator position.
:dunno:
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Venzy won't come as long as there is any chance Sean gets the HC nod.
We have discussed this before. Currie and the Animal will not allow Now let us dream.
Snyder wants it. He's the only one.
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Clemson: The Tulsa World is reporting Brent Venables is now a serious candidate for the Clemson defensive coordinator position.
:dunno:
Just hold out Brent! We're coming, buddy!
:lynchmob:
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Clemson: The Tulsa World is reporting Brent Venables is now a serious candidate for the Clemson defensive coordinator position.
:dunno:
Just hold out Brent! We're coming, buddy!
:lynchmob:
Yeah, just gotta dump some baggage first.
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Come home Brent. We would never subject you to blatant nepotism like that. Oh wait....
The time is now, Brent.
Cosh is all boxed up and out the door to South Florida and now you can come home where you belong.
Little baby Tebow, please make this happen.
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DC job at Maryland is open too. They'd love to have Cosh back I'm sure.
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Clemson: The Tulsa World is reporting Brent Venables is now a serious candidate for the Clemson defensive coordinator position.
:dunno:
Just hold out Brent! We're coming, buddy!
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Hang tight Brent, it may take a bit but we will be there.
If you fall, we will catch you, we'll be waiting (oh, we'll be waiting)
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Need to offer blow on hooker's bellies.
I'll help ... which do I need to bring? Would bringing both get me an east side parking pass?
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Need to offer blow on hooker's bellies.
I'll help ... which do I need to bring? Would bringing both get me an east side parking pass?
I'll bring the hookers.
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Need to offer blow on hooker's bellies.
I'll help ... which do I need to bring? Would bringing both get me an east side parking pass?
I'll bring the hookers.
FYI Venzy prefers Asians.
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Need to offer blow on hooker's bellies.
I'll help ... which do I need to bring? Would bringing both get me an east side parking pass?
I'll bring the hookers.
FYI Venzy prefers Asians.
Ok. It's set. :thumbsup: Time to come home Venzy, time to come home! :lynchmob:
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Anyone have Charlie Sheen's pager number? I need some product!
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@TravHaney: Stoops: Mike &Brent were out the door recruiting together w/in 2 hrs of Mike’s hiring so we’re off to good start
LOL
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I'd take Venables as our new D-Coordinator. Would be hard to be worse than Cosh. I haven't seen anything yet that makes me want him as our head coach, though.
Wherever he goes, it'll be interesting to see how well he does without Bobby Stoops looking over his shoulder the whole time...
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Sometimes I'll log in and be like "WTF? I have 3 new messages?" Then I'll see one of these threads.
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Sometimes I'll log in and be like "WTF? I have 3 new messages?" Then I'll see one of these threads.
:lol:
I've always wondered how often that happens.
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At this point... what Venzy did is dogshit, what his legend did is historic....
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At this point... what Venzy did is dogshit, what his legend did is historic....
It's probably not dogshit when it has to do with pissing off our biggest donor.
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At this point... what Venzy did is dogshit, what his legend did is historic....
It's probably not dogshit when it has to do with pissing off our biggest donor.
:blah:
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The legend of Venzy is a great way for tucks to rationalize why he and other top notch assistant coaches won't come here.
Snyder doesn't pay a single assistant on staff more than 300k, we have the lowest paid staff in the conference. Anybody really think Venzy would turn down an 800k annual position at Clemson to "come home".
There's a reason we have guys like Chris Cosh and Keith Burns on the staff and guys like Venzy coach elsewhere. Let's not overly complicate this.
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gee, what a mystery this is. why on earth would venzy want to go coach for dana "8-ball" holgorsen?
ever notice holgorsen looks just like buffalo bill from silence of the lambs?
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gee, what a mystery this is. why on earth would venzy want to go coach for dana "8-ball" holgorsen?
ever notice holgorsen looks just like buffalo bill from silence of the lambs?
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The 1998 K-State team is the best team I've ever been a part of.
-Brent Venables
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The 1998 K-State team is the best team I've ever been a part of.
-Brent Venables
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Have no idea what Venzy dead, plz pm me the deets. TIA. :cheers:
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Have no idea what Venzy dead, plz pm me the deets. TIA. :cheers:
Think Craig James
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BVK5H??? :horrorsurprise:
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Wondering how noted KSU alum and Clemson co-defensive coordinator Brent Venables feels about returning to the Big 12...
:users:
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Wondering how noted KSU alum and Clemson co-defensive coordinator Brent Venables feels about returning to the Big 12...
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He is the mole. Moley moley moooooooole
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Brent's '02 Cat defense was awesome, even if '98 was better top to bottom.
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Brent's '02 Cat defense was awesome, even if '98 was better top to bottom.
Think Brent left in '98, :dunno:
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Time to check in on this thread again.
I didn't see anything this year to shake my belief that Venables wasn't much more than Gilligan on the S.S. Bob Stoops:
Clemson TOTAL D
- 2009: #20
- 2010: #19
- 2011: #71 (epic collapse year)
- 2012: #75 (Venables)
Clemson SCORING D
- 2009: #25
- 2010: #13
- 2011: #81 (epic collapse year)
- 2012: #49 (Venables)
He can recruit. But can he recuit to KSU? And I know being a head coach is a different skill set than being a coordinator, but he strikes me as even less cut-out to be HC.
No thanks.
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well, he's still a beaut
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Time to check in on this thread again.
I didn't see anything this year to shake my belief that Venables wasn't much more than Gilligan on the S.S. Bob Stoops:
Clemson TOTAL D
- 2009: #20
- 2010: #19
- 2011: #71 (epic collapse year)
- 2012: #75 (Venables)
Clemson SCORING D
- 2009: #25
- 2010: #13
- 2011: #81 (epic collapse year)
- 2012: #49 (Venables)
He can recruit. But can he recuit to KSU? And I know being a head coach is a different skill set than being a coordinator, but he strikes me as even less cut-out to be HC.
No thanks.
Recruiting prowess is relative. If he can win recruiting battles against USC and Alabama and Texas at Oklahoma, I wouldn't expect him to win beat those same schools at KSU. I'd expect him to beat the likes of Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and Missouri. He was known as a good recruiter at Oklahoma because he was a good recruiter, not because he was at Oklahoma - it isn't like everyone on that staff had the same rep.
That said, I've cooled on BV, too, mostly because I don't think he's the kick in the pants that I've become enamored with. Although his beauty would be nice.
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Venzy is my fav of the stoops bros
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Brett's '02 Cat defense was awesome, even if '98 was better top to bottom.
Fixed it
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The legend of Venzy is a great way for tucks to rationalize why he and other top notch assistant coaches won't come here.
Snyder doesn't pay a single assistant on staff more than 300k, we have the lowest paid staff in the conference. Anybody really think Venzy would turn down an 800k annual position at Clemson to "come home".
There's a reason we have guys like Chris Cosh and Keith Burns on the staff and guys like Venzy coach elsewhere. Let's not overly complicate this.
Right on Wabash! :cheers:
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well, he's still a beaut
And a coke head....seriously.
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well, he's still a beaut
And a coke head....seriously.
is that a bad thing in your parts?
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Time to check in on this thread again.
I didn't see anything this year to shake my belief that Venables wasn't much more than Gilligan on the S.S. Bob Stoops:
Clemson TOTAL D
- 2009: #20
- 2010: #19
- 2011: #71 (epic collapse year)
- 2012: #75 (Venables)
Clemson SCORING D
- 2009: #25
- 2010: #13
- 2011: #81 (epic collapse year)
- 2012: #49 (Venables)
He can recruit. But can he recuit to KSU? And I know being a head coach is a different skill set than being a coordinator, but he strikes me as even less cut-out to be HC.
No thanks.
i've never been a huge venzy fan, but why would you assume he'd turn the ship around in 1 season? especially if he's stuck with a majority of the crap players from the previous year?
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well, he's still a beaut
And a coke head....seriously.
Alright so this PROs list is expanding. Anyone got anything to write down for CONs?
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Time to check in on this thread again.
I didn't see anything this year to shake my belief that Venables wasn't much more than Gilligan on the S.S. Bob Stoops:
Clemson TOTAL D
- 2009: #20
- 2010: #19
- 2011: #71 (epic collapse year)
- 2012: #75 (Venables)
Clemson SCORING D
- 2009: #25
- 2010: #13
- 2011: #81 (epic collapse year)
- 2012: #49 (Venables)
He can recruit. But can he recuit to KSU? And I know being a head coach is a different skill set than being a coordinator, but he strikes me as even less cut-out to be HC.
No thanks.
Well, great coordinators don't always make great coaches, and if Venzy could hire good assistants, his actual coaching ability would matter much less. It would be pretty great to get an actual recruiter at Kansas State.
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well, he's still a beaut
And a coke head....seriously.
Alright so this PROs list is expanding. Anyone got anything to write down for CONs?
He won't go after the coke that falls into the hooker's ass crack. I don't understand it. :dunno: