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Title: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: pissclams on December 05, 2011, 12:41:02 PM
I've run a ton of analysis on the SEC as a conference and my computer is getting tired of me!  But anyway, I've run all the numbers from all of the SEC conference games, then run the non-conference game numbers and every single time, the SEC comes out as the worst of all Auto-Qualifier conferences. 

The latest numbers look like this-
1) Big 12
2) Pac 12 (-15)
3) big 10 (-34)
4) ACC (-65)
5) Big East (-103)
6) SEC (-140)

 :barf:

I know there have been thoughts of breaking up the SEC and letting the bigger conferences absorb their better teams.  I'd love to see this because the reality is that they have a decent team down there in LSU but beyond that  (and I don't care what the polls say because Bama is nothing but overrated).  Arkansas would probably finish between 5th-7th in the B12 if they had the stones to play in a real conference.

All of this is very funny Catfans because, and stick with me here, SEC fans will brag all day to you about their conference.  All day long they'll rehash the same argument  as to why their conference is so elite.  LOL I love it because they can't handle the truth.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: EuroCat on December 05, 2011, 12:44:18 PM
I've run a ton of analysis on the SEC as a conference and my computer is getting tired of me!  But anyway, I've run all the numbers from all of the SEC conference games, then run the non-conference game numbers and every single time, the SEC comes out as the worst of all Auto-Qualifier conferences. 

The latest numbers look like this-
1) Big 12
2) Pac 12 (-15)
3) big 10 (-34)
4) ACC (-65)
5) Big East (-103)
6) SEC (-140)

 :barf:

I know there have been thoughts of breaking up the SEC and letting the bigger conferences absorb their better teams.  I'd love to see this because the reality is that they have a decent team down there in LSU but beyond that  (and I don't care what the polls say because Bama is nothing but overrated).  Arkansas would probably finish between 5th-7th in the B12 if they had the stones to play in a real conference.

All of this is very funny Catfans because, and stick with me here, SEC fans will brag all day to you about their conference.  All day long they'll rehash the same argument  as to why their conference is so elite.  LOL I love it because they can't handle the truth.
'Clams, we just jettisoned a bunch of dead weight in the Big 12, no reason to bring a bunch of scrubs in now. We just need to sit back and realize that we got it right the first time when we didn't bring Arkansas into the Big 12.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 05, 2011, 12:45:25 PM
Love the way that the Big XII cast off their dead weight (aTm and UM) and the SEC just gobbled up our refuse. This will only make them weaker, us stronger. Still cannot believe the AD accepted this bowl bid...
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: pissclams on December 05, 2011, 12:46:49 PM
ya i guess you're right.  every LSU fan I know wants into the B12.  it's hilarious.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: Forwyn on December 05, 2011, 12:53:20 PM
B-12 teams are vying to join the SEC, not the other way around.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 05, 2011, 12:55:02 PM
goddamnit clams. i can only keep up with so many threads at once. :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: kslim on December 05, 2011, 12:56:20 PM
goddamnit clams. i can only keep up with so many threads at once. :shakesfist:

im glad he started it, we need chings in here to back up the facts
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: AbeFroman on December 05, 2011, 12:56:57 PM
B-12 teams are vying to join the SEC, not the other way around.

Nebraska and Colorado didn't go to the SEC.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: Forwyn on December 05, 2011, 01:08:03 PM
Nebraska and Colorado didn't go to the SEC.

A&M is. But you're right, B12 teams are just vying to get out in general.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: EuroCat on December 05, 2011, 01:14:14 PM
I've run a ton of analysis on the SEC as a conference and my computer is getting tired of me!  But anyway, I've run all the numbers from all of the SEC conference games, then run the non-conference game numbers and every single time, the SEC comes out as the worst of all Auto-Qualifier conferences. 

The latest numbers look like this-
1) Big 12
2) Pac 12 (-15)
3) big 10 (-34)
4) ACC (-65)
5) Big East (-103)
6) SEC (-140)

 :barf:

I know there have been thoughts of breaking up the SEC and letting the bigger conferences absorb their better teams.  I'd love to see this because the reality is that they have a decent team down there in LSU but beyond that  (and I don't care what the polls say because Bama is nothing but overrated).  Arkansas would probably finish between 5th-7th in the B12 if they had the stones to play in a real conference.

All of this is very funny Catfans because, and stick with me here, SEC fans will brag all day to you about their conference.  All day long they'll rehash the same argument  as to why their conference is so elite.  LOL I love it because they can't handle the truth.
This isn't the same computer that picked Alabama for the title game, is it?
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: pissclams on December 05, 2011, 01:21:28 PM
Nebraska and Colorado didn't go to the SEC.

A&M is. But you're right, B12 teams are just vying to get out in general.

sorry but the last time i checked we unloaded the two weakest teams in our conference onto your SEC, sorry but the truth hurts but America's team brings the truth son.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: Pete on December 05, 2011, 01:23:07 PM
B-12 teams are vying to join the SEC, not the other way around.

If you can't run with the big dogs, you need to get off the porch.  Loads of people getting off of the porch.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: RightMeow on December 05, 2011, 01:29:08 PM
Nebraska and Colorado didn't go to the SEC.

A&M is. But you're right, B12 teams are just vying to get out in general.

NUbb got out because they couldn't beat the Texas and Okie schools on the field or in the recruiting battles anymore.  CU got out because their alumni is a bunch of rejects from California & can't get recruits from their own state anyway.  A&M is leaving because they barely can get to 6 wins in the Big 12 even with all of their 5 star Texas talent, and will have an easier go in the SEC.  Mizzou is leaving because their coach is an alcoholic that drives while intoxicated and this is frowned upon in Big 12 country, but is altogether encouraged by SEC schools, as it helps endear him to the fan base(s).  These schools are all paying enormous exit fees to go to conferences where getting into a BCS bowl is easier due to the lack of competition.  

So you are correct, these teams ARE DYING to get out of the Big 12.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 05, 2011, 01:38:00 PM
B-12 teams are vying to join the SEC, not the other way around.

aTm and Missouri both wanted to be in a league where they could actually compete. They knew they had no shot a a conference title in the Big12.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: Forwyn on December 05, 2011, 01:43:56 PM
You're deluding yourself if you think A&M has a better chance in the SEC West.

52.80% Wins in the B12
42.66% Wins in the SEC

If they play each team in the SEC West, they'll go 0-6.

Scratch that, they have a chance at 1-5 with Houston Nutt's shattered Ole Miss.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: bosshawg on December 05, 2011, 02:32:48 PM
Nebraska and Colorado didn't go to the SEC.

A&M is. But you're right, B12 teams are just vying to get out in general.

NUbb got out because they couldn't beat the Texas and Okie schools on the field or in the recruiting battles anymore.  CU got out because their alumni is a bunch of rejects from California & can't get recruits from their own state anyway.  A&M is leaving because they barely can get to 6 wins in the Big 12 even with all of their 5 star Texas talent, and will have an easier go in the SEC.  Mizzou is leaving because their coach is an alcoholic that drives while intoxicated and this is frowned upon in Big 12 country, but is altogether encouraged by SEC schools, as it helps endear him to the fan base(s).  These schools are all paying enormous exit fees to go to conferences where getting into a BCS bowl is easier due to the lack of competition.  

So you are correct, these teams ARE DYING to get out of the Big 12.

Are you kidding me?  Lack of competition in the SEC?  You really have no clue, do you.  Let see....two weeks ago BCS #1, #2 #3 all from SEC west.  This week, 4 SEC teams in the top 10 in the BCS, Big 12 (which isn't even that any more) 2 teams.  How many BCS Championships has the Big 12 (10 in reality) won?  2.  Once in 2000 and then again in 2005.  SEC has how many? 7 and counting this year it will be 8.  That is 8 times a team from the SEC has won the BCS National Championship.  8 times in 14 years = 57%.   Big 12 2 times in 14 years = 14%.  Lack of competition, huh? 

Keep drinking that cool aid. 
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 05, 2011, 02:43:43 PM
Nebraska and Colorado didn't go to the SEC.

A&M is. But you're right, B12 teams are just vying to get out in general.

NUbb got out because they couldn't beat the Texas and Okie schools on the field or in the recruiting battles anymore.  CU got out because their alumni is a bunch of rejects from California & can't get recruits from their own state anyway.  A&M is leaving because they barely can get to 6 wins in the Big 12 even with all of their 5 star Texas talent, and will have an easier go in the SEC.  Mizzou is leaving because their coach is an alcoholic that drives while intoxicated and this is frowned upon in Big 12 country, but is altogether encouraged by SEC schools, as it helps endear him to the fan base(s).  These schools are all paying enormous exit fees to go to conferences where getting into a BCS bowl is easier due to the lack of competition.  

So you are correct, these teams ARE DYING to get out of the Big 12.

Are you kidding me?  Lack of competition in the SEC?  You really have no clue, do you.  Let see....two weeks ago BCS #1, #2 #3 all from SEC west.  This week, 4 SEC teams in the top 10 in the BCS, Big 12 (which isn't even that any more) 2 teams.  How many BCS Championships has the Big 12 (10 in reality) won?  2.  Once in 2000 and then again in 2005.  SEC has how many? 7 and counting this year it will be 8.  That is 8 times a team from the SEC has won the BCS National Championship.  8 times in 14 years = 57%.   Big 12 2 times in 14 years = 14%.  Lack of competition, huh? 

Keep drinking that cool aid. 

SECWest basically a circlejerk of mediocrity. None of the SEC teams would have finished above .500 in this year's Big XII and it is going to get tougher next year. aTm and UM planned their escape at just the right moment...
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: Deez Nutz on December 05, 2011, 03:27:32 PM
Nebraska and Colorado didn't go to the SEC.

A&M is. But you're right, B12 teams are just vying to get out in general.

sorry but the last time i checked we unloaded the two weakest teams in our conference onto your SEC, sorry but the truth hurts but America's team brings the truth son.

Not to mention the fact that America's Team (KSU) decided to spurn the SEC's offer to join last summer.  Currie knew that joining that trash league would only lower our reputation in the eyes of normal college football fans. 
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: FP TC etc. on December 05, 2011, 03:30:31 PM
Thank God we didn't accept that SEC invite. Can you imagine playing against those softies every season  :lol:
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: MadCat on December 05, 2011, 03:31:19 PM
I expect A&M will win the SECWest early on, but that will taper off as the SEC recruits start filling their roster.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: 0.42 on December 05, 2011, 03:31:55 PM
Thanks s'clams for bringing the statistical TRUTH to these ignoramuses
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 05, 2011, 03:40:43 PM
I've run a ton of analysis on the SEC as a conference and my computer is getting tired of me!  But anyway, I've run all the numbers from all of the SEC conference games, then run the non-conference game numbers and every single time, the SEC comes out as the worst of all Auto-Qualifier conferences. 

The latest numbers look like this-
1) Big 12
2) Pac 12 (-15)
3) big 10 (-34)
4) ACC (-65)
5) Big East (-103)
6) SEC (-140)

 :barf:

I know there have been thoughts of breaking up the SEC and letting the bigger conferences absorb their better teams.  I'd love to see this because the reality is that they have a decent team down there in LSU but beyond that  (and I don't care what the polls say because Bama is nothing but overrated).  Arkansas would probably finish between 5th-7th in the B12 if they had the stones to play in a real conference.

All of this is very funny Catfans because, and stick with me here, SEC fans will brag all day to you about their conference.  All day long they'll rehash the same argument  as to why their conference is so elite.  LOL I love it because they can't handle the truth.

what log schale are you using? i used a log base 10 scale with a freuderer algorithm and every single time the sec comes up at #4 with acc and big east behind them. can you pm me your numbers or post them cause i've ran mine ten times and they all have the big twelve at #4.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: mocat on December 05, 2011, 03:44:24 PM
Nebraska and Colorado didn't go to the SEC.

A&M is. But you're right, B12 teams are just vying to get out in general.

NUbb got out because they couldn't beat the Texas and Okie schools on the field or in the recruiting battles anymore.  CU got out because their alumni is a bunch of rejects from California & can't get recruits from their own state anyway.  A&M is leaving because they barely can get to 6 wins in the Big 12 even with all of their 5 star Texas talent, and will have an easier go in the SEC.  Mizzou is leaving because their coach is an alcoholic that drives while intoxicated and this is frowned upon in Big 12 country, but is altogether encouraged by SEC schools, as it helps endear him to the fan base(s).  These schools are all paying enormous exit fees to go to conferences where getting into a BCS bowl is easier due to the lack of competition.  

So you are correct, these teams ARE DYING to get out of the Big 12.

Are you kidding me?  Lack of competition in the SEC?  You really have no clue, do you.  Let see....two weeks ago BCS #1, #2 #3 all from SEC west.  This week, 4 SEC teams in the top 10 in the BCS, Big 12 (which isn't even that any more) 2 teams.  How many BCS Championships has the Big 12 (10 in reality) won?  2.  Once in 2000 and then again in 2005.  SEC has how many? 7 and counting this year it will be 8.  That is 8 times a team from the SEC has won the BCS National Championship.  8 times in 14 years = 57%.   Big 12 2 times in 14 years = 14%.  Lack of competition, huh? 

Keep drinking that cool aid. 

It's like it's right in front of them, but they just can't quite figure it out.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: Saulbadguy on December 05, 2011, 03:46:26 PM
pissclams,

what is the margin of error in your calculations?

Not doubting your math at all , just curious.
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: EuroCat on December 05, 2011, 03:48:55 PM
I've run a ton of analysis on the SEC as a conference and my computer is getting tired of me!  But anyway, I've run all the numbers from all of the SEC conference games, then run the non-conference game numbers and every single time, the SEC comes out as the worst of all Auto-Qualifier conferences. 

The latest numbers look like this-
1) Big 12
2) Pac 12 (-15)
3) big 10 (-34)
4) ACC (-65)
5) Big East (-103)
6) SEC (-140)

 :barf:

I know there have been thoughts of breaking up the SEC and letting the bigger conferences absorb their better teams.  I'd love to see this because the reality is that they have a decent team down there in LSU but beyond that  (and I don't care what the polls say because Bama is nothing but overrated).  Arkansas would probably finish between 5th-7th in the B12 if they had the stones to play in a real conference.

All of this is very funny Catfans because, and stick with me here, SEC fans will brag all day to you about their conference.  All day long they'll rehash the same argument  as to why their conference is so elite.  LOL I love it because they can't handle the truth.

what log schale are you using? i used a log base 10 scale with a freuderer algorithm and every single time the sec comes up at #4 with acc and big east behind them. can you pm me your numbers or post them cause i've ran mine ten times and they all have the big twelve at #4.
Are you inverting the integral of SOS with respect to time?
Title: Re: Is the SEC the best of the worst?
Post by: pissclams on December 05, 2011, 03:51:34 PM
pissclams,

what is the margin of error in your calculations?

Not doubting your math at all , just curious.

i used a 2% margin of error.

I've run a ton of analysis on the SEC as a conference and my computer is getting tired of me!  But anyway, I've run all the numbers from all of the SEC conference games, then run the non-conference game numbers and every single time, the SEC comes out as the worst of all Auto-Qualifier conferences.  

The latest numbers look like this-
1) Big 12
2) Pac 12 (-15)
3) big 10 (-34)
4) ACC (-65)
5) Big East (-103)
6) SEC (-140)

 :barf:

I know there have been thoughts of breaking up the SEC and letting the bigger conferences absorb their better teams.  I'd love to see this because the reality is that they have a decent team down there in LSU but beyond that  (and I don't care what the polls say because Bama is nothing but overrated).  Arkansas would probably finish between 5th-7th in the B12 if they had the stones to play in a real conference.

All of this is very funny Catfans because, and stick with me here, SEC fans will brag all day to you about their conference.  All day long they'll rehash the same argument  as to why their conference is so elite.  LOL I love it because they can't handle the truth.

what log schale are you using? i used a log base 10 scale with a freuderer algorithm and every single time the sec comes up at #4 with acc and big east behind them. can you pm me your numbers or post them cause i've ran mine ten times and they all have the big twelve at #4.

sent. you the data.  currently using a lin-lin scale.