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Peggy Po's
Gipson is a freshman? He has incredible hands. He is learning to boss the lane and not settle for moves away from the basket. He absorbs contact. He uses ball fakes. He hustles to get in position for rebounds. On the jump ball late in the second half, long after the game had reached a new level of physicality, Thomas muscled his way in to a scrum and emerged with the ball and what appeared to be yet another trip to the line. It was extremely heartening. He is the Peggiest of all of my Po's. He is still getting gassed too easily.
Jamar nearly had his very own version of a triple double. 10 points, 10 rebounds, 7 TO+Fouls. 1-2 from 3, 1-4 from the line. Many nights, Jamar is the tin man and the scarecrow. But he played with his heart tonight. So frustrating to watch, but I think he will have a better season than last year. He needs to limit the games in which he completely removes himself with fouls and/or turnovers. He definitely showed more persistence when he was getting contact in the post than at almost any point last year. I am as happy as I can be with Jamar.
JO's career high for boards is 11? Well, not that we've got that out of the way, let's do more of it. Overall a pretty disappointing night for JO on offense. Two potential dunks on bitches thwarted. The first when he finger rolled off the dribble, the second being the missed oop.
Sprads is Sprads is Sprads. 14 points. 4 rebounds. 2 charges taken. Cannot and will not be a creative force on offense. He can make the first pass and then move, but he is incapable or scared of throwing an offensive pass. His only assists are dribble drives that get cut off at the elbow for an open three. Shawnee Mission streetball only prepares you for so much vision it seems. Super Clent is doing just fine by me.
Tay in #teamangel's base, stealin' yo minutes. I see you tay. I see you D'ing up on Taylor. Very solid role player minutes. Our problem is we need some more sparkle from the opposite of Sprads. Tay has explosiveness and is showing his defense, but his offensive game will always be limited by his lapses in control and his 3 point shooting. If either can hold steady for a game we may have something here.
Vic's career high 4 points. GET EM ENERGY 2.0!
Nancy Neg's
Jamar's inexplicable pass to cap a 5 point run in 2 seconds
Shane Southwell's sleepy 25 minutes. He's like Akeem Wright if Akeem Wright's defense with the dimmer down and then the dimmer slightly up on everything else. A soft white 60 watt, dialed back, ready for love. Maybe this should be a Peggy Po, but I would rather run out Nino, or Omari or Jones or something. Shane did do a decent number on their backyard Serbian. Could've gone either way here. I'm just kind of bored with this and Shane's terrible transition and completely random passing ability have me upset.
#teamangel Still has not figured out how to not foul. On ball defense my ass. 3 pointers and the rest meh. Still can not run a break.
Omari will he ever play? Not if Vic has anything to say about it.
McGruder's shooting Slumpy McOreb's. Just not knocking down shots. Has clearly worked to develop his dribble game. It sucks most of the time, but when he pump fakes and heads to the elbow or the lane for a floater it is solid. I really hope this gets sorted out. Lacks spark and energy, the slump is affecting him.
This nervous, weak, panicked team. I swear MU or KU would destroy us by a magillion points by just pressing us until we cry uncle. Frank would yell the first time out. Then he would stare the second time out while Sprads periodically did his best "Come on guys" whine. Then the last timeout of the first half, once we are down by 12-20 or so, would be Frank giving the calm "its up to you guys, just do whatever the eff you want" schitck. I have zero idea why GW tried to junk us in the half court and did not repeatedly try to increase the tempo.
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Sprads is Sprads is Sprads. 14 points. 4 rebounds. 2 charges taken. Cannot and will not be a creative force on offense.
agree with the will not, not with the can not. he has the game to score, it's disappointing to see him not trying to do anything but throw up js.
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Peggy po,
Stan has upped his half time interview skills.
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Sprads is Sprads is Sprads. 14 points. 4 rebounds. 2 charges taken. Cannot and will not be a creative force on offense.
agree with the will not, not with the can not. he has the game to score, it's disappointing to see him not trying to do anything but throw up js.
Will not is probably right. I got a little zacker on this one.
By the way, your #teamangel on ball defense point was terrible. He is a fouling machine.
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Great job Tortuga, pretty much on point sir! Still don't know why everyone has expectations of Omari being something. Watsons tweet about being disappointed and frustrated was disheartening, he'll be franked I'm sure! And I'm pretty positive Jeremy Jones is the 2.0 version of Devon Peterson this year!?
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By the way, your #teamangel on ball defense point was terrible. He is a fouling machine.
you think he can't defend because he likes to hand check? gmafb, he's strong, has great feet and knows how to defend. compared to a typical freshman guard, he's light years better. he'll be the best perimeter defender on the team by the end of the year. he might be already (yes, i heard what martin said re. irving).
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I've been harping on Sprads for 13 months. I was furious with his first half and I bitched to everyone I saw. Here's the deal though, he is capable of being a volume scorer. I was very pleased with him in the second half. He had the following sequence in a 30 second span. Missed 3, offensive rebound, made jumper, had a 3 blocked on an aggressive drive to the basket, made 3.
After the game I got pissed again, every game to this point he has slept walked/pissed his pants through the first half and actually played the second half. He's capable Frank needs to pressure him to play two halves. I can't imagine how bad people would be freaking out if another player routinely had shitty first halves and great second halves. Guaranteed people would be talking about the players effort, yet Sprads is skating by. Frank needs to bust his ass. He needs to be a volume scorer at best a consistent threat to pressure the defense at worst. The other guards, Rod included, can't bear any offensive load for an extended time and we currently have far too much pressure on Jamar and Big Gip to score. We will not have the success we expect if Will doesn't take over, he needs to grow up now. Also as sexy as Shane is, I'm ready to see more minutes for Dumbo.
end rant.
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By the way, your #teamangel on ball defense point was terrible. He is a fouling machine.
you think he can't defend because he likes to hand check? gmafb, he's strong, has great feet and knows how to defend. compared to a typical freshman guard, he's light years better. he'll be the best perimeter defender on the team by the end of the year. he might be already (yes, i heard what martin said re. irving).
At best he's sprads level.
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These are great threads.
Another PP was the amount of goEMAW presense in Sect 17 last night.
As for the discussion points; I agree completely on the frustration of Sprad's continuing to be tentative in the first half and #teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year. And Sprads has to play better for 40 minutes. I really liked a lot of what he did in the 2nd half, but that just makes another poor first half more frustrating.
I've also got to put Tay in the PP section, I thought he did a really nice job last night. Hit our first 3, played really good defense, 4 assists even though he didn't shoot really well overall. He can help quite a bit this year if he can play like that night in and night out.
I actually thought overall we did a couple things pretty nice; most of the time we did a good job pushing the ball and trying to create tempo and at times we had pretty solid movement on offense. The first half frustrations to me were really about missing open jump shots; we had plenty of good looks and didn't knock them down and most of them were generated from the offense.
And McGrud's has got to hit shots as well. Its really early, but he must improve on his 26% shooting from 3. And JO has to get a lot better and find his way out of Frank's doghouse. Those two are key players this year and we've got to have more from them if we want to be a NCAA team.
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Po: Gipson is the most exciting true freshman we've had since Walker/Beasley. He's playing at a legit Big XII level 5 games in to his career and only going to get better. Big, strong, aggressive, can hit a baby hook with both hands, has a mid range jumper, and is decent from the stripe. Tonight, I though was telling, because he was 5 inches shorter than both of GW's bigs and still owned them in the paint. This is promising moving forward well into the future.
Neg: What does this say about our big man development, when a kid five games removed highschool is by far the most polished post player we have on the roster, and by a wide margin? J.O. Is essentially the same player offensively as he was a freshman. The same. Better rebounder and more physically developed, but has no legitimate post moves or any semblance of control under the basket, in his third year. Samuels, same story. Diaz, I fear we're going down an identical path. The lack of progress is really disconcerting.
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How has our perimeter d not come up yet? Repeatedly our midmajory guards get beat, help shits, dump made to wide open perimeter. Not the first time this has happened.
This is what will kill us against our league.
Gips ball handling moves are a wonderful surprise as well as his consistency in backing to the basket.
Also, couldn't agree more on gip and jamar.
Also, also, our full court press is pitiful.
Prob not worked much on it yet, but JFC.
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Saying JO is no better at offense now than as a frosh is ridic
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PP: 5 spot bounce in kenpom
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I enjoyed Gruds baseline drive to the bucket for the DOB attempt even though he missed :love:
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NN; 1-10 first half 3pt shooting
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How has our perimeter d not come up yet? Repeatedly our midmajory guards get beat, help shits, dump made to wide open perimeter. Not the first time this has happened.
This is what will kill us against our league.
Gips ball handling moves are a wonderful surprise as well as his consistency in backing to the basket.
Also, couldn't agree more on gip and jamar.
Also, also, our full court press is pitiful.
Prob not worked much on it yet, but JFC.
It was very ugly. I did enjoy getting multiple 5 seconds calls, though.
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PP: gipson has a very high BBIQ, not intimidated at all
PP: angel is the same. high bbiq, quick feet, not afraid to be on the floor, just plays his game
PP: frank doesn't seem as addicted to substitutions as he has been in years past
NN: we need to hedge better on the perimeter screens
NN: bramlage workers who decide which lights to turn on
NN: team still has v low entry pass iq
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Nancy: I agree with CNS. We were watching help defense most of the game, excluding the Tave. If our guards are needing help every time their man is putting the ball on the ground, there's a good chance that our posts will suffer with fouls due to getting there late and trying to block the ball. They need to contain.
Po: Big positive about Gipson is his stand-straight-up defense that J.O. still hasn't caught on to. It's a beautiful thing when a help defense is a brick wall that isn't foul prone.
Po: Jam Sam had some great effort out there and created a lot of second chances for us. I think he'll do some great things for us this year.
Nancy: I can't believe that J.O. is blowing offensive possessions as bad as he still is. He's weak with the ball and when he has an opportunity to dunk it, he throws it off the back board as hard as he can. I expected big things from him this year, and for him to be in my "has potential" category is saddening. And once again, he is very frustrating to watch on help defense when all he does is slap the guy on the arm and cry about it saying it was a block. If he stood straight up, it would be very difficult for a driving guard to make a floater over him.
Nancy: Sugar was playing extremely selfish ball out there. I know he has NBA aspirations, but his dribble drive into three opposing players was pretty stupid.
We had a decent game overall, just a few defensive breakdowns and a lot of missed shots (but the shots were open and created by the offense), which is acceptable for this time of the year.
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wut?
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Nancy: Sugar was playing extremely selfish ball out there. I know he has NBA aspirations, but his dribble drive into three opposing players was pretty stupid.
the eff is sugar? shane? because of the boxer?
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pp: kk sticking to his #teamhateangel stance and looking like a fool :lol:
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Nancy: Sugar was playing extremely selfish ball out there. I know he has NBA aspirations, but his dribble drive into three opposing players was pretty stupid.
the eff is sugar? shane? because of the boxer?
Yeah, I guess I forgot what he is referred to on here as.
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Nancy: Sugar was playing extremely selfish ball out there. I know he has NBA aspirations, but his dribble drive into three opposing players was pretty stupid.
the eff is sugar? shane? because of the boxer?
Yeah, I guess I forgot what he is referred to on here as.
sexy pants jones
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pp: gip firing up a 3. bomb away bro, you've earned it.
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PP: Frank drawing up a perfect alley oop back door play
NN: JO and Will blowing it up.
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Po:
Martavious' arms and delts. Whenever I look at them whatever is in my mouth falls out and whatever is in my mind goes blank.
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PP: MakeItRain. Another goEMAW miracle.
NN: McOrebs. Jezuscrist.
On Angel, did anybody else think he got nailed on a few bullshit calls? I get that you have to earn the respect of BigXII refs, but some of his fouls wouldn't have been called on Irving for god's sake. And nobody respects him.
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Question; have you guys watched our perimeter defense in the past?
It wasn't great, but I thought after the first few minutes when we gave up some really open looks we did alright. Getting beat and help on the perimeter is a Frank staple.
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Again, content like this makes my premium subscription so worthwhile.
Is there a reason that Jamar keeps trying to dribble the basketball? I think he should stop trying to do this. I think he finishes around the rim about like he did 2 years ago.
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Question; have you guys watched our perimeter defense in the past?
It wasn't great, but I thought after the first few minutes when we gave up some really open looks we did alright. Getting beat and help on the perimeter is a Frank staple.
They sell out on the perimeter with ball pressure and in the passing lanes harder than any team I've seen on any level. It is unbelievably impressive how hard he makes those guards play. Because of this the forwards have to learn new help principles each game depending on where the offensive attackers are coming from. I think that is one of the reasons Franks teams consistently look better in conference play, because of the familiarity. I saw Jam, easily our best help defender and has been for a couple of years, make some help mistakes in the first half that he corrected later. Two of the threes hit by that euro were directly attributable to Jam helping when he shouldn't have. Notice it didn't happen once in the second half. Moral of the story, our defensive system asks a lot of everyone on the floor, mistakes Wiki happen, high risk high reward. The defense was very very good last night.
Also can confirm that Belvis is amazing smelling, handsome and I'm pretty sure he was adequately entertained last night.
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Again, content like this makes my premium subscription so worthwhile.
Is there a reason that Jamar keeps trying to dribble the basketball? I think he should stop trying to do this. I think he finishes around the rim about like he did 2 years ago.
I cringed every time 1 of our bigs put it on the floor in traffic underneath the hoop last night :ohno:
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Again, content like this makes my premium subscription so worthwhile.
Is there a reason that Jamar keeps trying to dribble the basketball? I think he should stop trying to do this. I think he finishes around the rim about like he did 2 years ago.
I cringed every time 1 of our bigs put it on the floor in traffic underneath the hoop last night :ohno:
Get comfy with this. JO is much better at dribbling than some above give him credit for and the early returns on Gip doing the same are great. I don't see any reason at all for them to stop. I fact, I think they need to do it more under the right match ups.
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Also can confirm that Belvis is amazing smelling, handsome and I'm pretty sure he was adequately entertained last night.
Was entertained. Especially by the dude who hit the buzzer beater at halftime to win that sweet recliner. :love:
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PP: Gipson putting the ball on the floor.
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NN - Shane Southwell. in all facets of the game.
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Pegs
Gips nips…you look at them..they look at you…enjoy them
Sprads w/ confy – agreed on most everything said about sprads and his ability to score..he has it, I wish he’d use it more…he has to realize that he’s the scorer now
Stan Webber’s expression to the camera during a halftime recap – they went to boyle and stan but the wire from his headset was over his shoulder so stan flips it back over his shoulder but gives this dominating/serious look, like, right at the camera as he’s doing it. I dunno, I’d like someone to make a gif of it. It was intimidating.
Nancy
Angel – I am not #teamangel. I was on #teampullen from the first exhibition game against pitt state, mostly because he wasn’t clent stewart – cause when yo compared jake to clent, how could you not? angel has Jake and Denis to compare against and sadly that puts me in the #teamrecruitanotherpointguard.
Hands – I wish JO and Jamar had them.
McGruds – hate to put him here but he deserves it…It’s like, I’m not calling him a bad basketball player, I’m saying he’s playing like one.
Sprads w/out confy – jfc. If you pass up a wide open 3 to pass the ball to southwell I’m going to throw up.
Still a NIT team.
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Also can confirm that Belvis is amazing smelling, handsome and I'm pretty sure he was adequately entertained last night.
Was entertained. Especially by the dude who hit the buzzer beater at halftime to win that sweet recliner. :love:
he didn't call glass. if i was feldkamps, i'm not sure i'd give it to him.
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Still can't figure out why everyone is so impressed with Scott Greenwalt. Jo after 3 years finally has a little definition in his upper body but is still essentially rail thin, I know, body type, but still. Outside of Gip (who still isn't in very good shape) its still a team with no significant physical prescence, I see no significant bulking up of any kind. When I say "bulking up" I mean in the sense of "bulking up" for basketball, broader shoulders that can clear space, hold off hand defenders at bay. There's absolutely no explosiveness from the legs anywhere to be found on this team either.
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Still can't figure out why everyone is so impressed with Scott Greenwalt. Jo after 3 years finally has a little definition in his upper body but is still essentially rail thin, I know, body type, but still. Outside of Gip (who still isn't in very good shape) its still a team with no significant physical prescence, I see no significant bulking up of any kind. When I say "bulking up" I mean in the sense of "bulking up" for basketball, broader shoulders that can clear space, hold off hand defenders at bay. There's absolutely no explosiveness from the legs anywhere to be found on this team either.
when you say "everyone" who exactly are you refering to?
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Pegs
Gips nips…you look at them..they look at you…enjoy them
Sprads w/ confy – agreed on most everything said about sprads and his ability to score..he has it, I wish he’d use it more…he has to realize that he’s the scorer now
Stan Webber’s expression to the camera during a halftime recap – they went to boyle and stan but the wire from his headset was over his shoulder so stan flips it back over his shoulder but gives this dominating/serious look, like, right at the camera as he’s doing it. I dunno, I’d like someone to make a gif of it. It was intimidating.
Nancy
Angel – I am not #teamangel. I was on #teampullen from the first exhibition game against pitt state, mostly because he wasn’t clent stewart – cause when yo compared jake to clent, how could you not? angel has Jake and Denis to compare against and sadly that puts me in the #teamrecruitanotherpointguard.
Hands – I wish JO and Jamar had them.
McGruds – hate to put him here but he deserves it…It’s like, I’m not calling him a bad basketball player, I’m saying he’s playing like one.
Sprads w/out confy – jfc. If you pass up a wide open 3 to pass the ball to southwell I’m going to throw up.
Still a NIT team.
i love zacker during bball season.
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Still can't figure out why everyone is so impressed with Scott Greenwalt. Jo after 3 years finally has a little definition in his upper body but is still essentially rail thin, I know, body type, but still. Outside of Gip (who still isn't in very good shape) its still a team with no significant physical prescence, I see no significant bulking up of any kind. When I say "bulking up" I mean in the sense of "bulking up" for basketball, broader shoulders that can clear space, hold off hand defenders at bay. There's absolutely no explosiveness from the legs anywhere to be found on this team either.
agreed on explosiveness for several of our guys.
As for gip, the guy looks extraordinarily solid. Running that much at 275 has to be exhausting no matter what comprises the 275.
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Po:
Gipson :love:
Tay's D
Angel has good ideas just needs to execute better
Second Half (except last 7 minutes)
Neg:
Sprad's brain farts
Southwell's inconsistency, if he was consistent he is a match up nightmare.
JO not dunking on bitches
First Half
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Po:
Martavious' arms and delts. Whenever I look at them whatever is in my mouth falls out and whatever is in my mind goes blank.
It must be something they work on down at Boyd Anderson High School (Ft Lauderdale, FL). Did you see MI3's former high school co-captain for GW? My god, it's like a biceps factory. :love:
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Po:
Martavious' arms and delts. Whenever I look at them whatever is in my mouth falls out and whatever is in my mind goes blank.
It must be something they work on down at Boyd Anderson High School (Ft Lauderdale, FL). Did you see MI3's former high school co-captain for GW? My god, it's like a biceps factory. :love:
this post made me smile really big
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Po:
Martavious' arms and delts. Whenever I look at them whatever is in my mouth falls out and whatever is in my mind goes blank.
It must be something they work on down at Boyd Anderson High School (Ft Lauderdale, FL). Did you see MI3's former high school co-captain for GW? My god, it's like a biceps factory. :love:
it's a thing called Clams Rock House, they both live in it.
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Po: Gipson is the most exciting true freshman we've had since Walker/Beasley. He's playing at a legit Big XII level 5 games in to his career and only going to get better. Big, strong, aggressive, can hit a baby hook with both hands, has a mid range jumper, and is decent from the stripe. Tonight, I though was telling, because he was 5 inches shorter than both of GW's bigs and still owned them in the paint. This is promising moving forward well into the future.
Neg: What does this say about our big man development, when a kid five games removed highschool is by far the most polished post player we have on the roster, and by a wide margin? J.O. Is essentially the same player offensively as he was a freshman. The same. Better rebounder and more physically developed, but has no legitimate post moves or any semblance of control under the basket, in his third year. Samuels, same story. Diaz, I fear we're going down an identical path. The lack of progress is really disconcerting.
No he isn't. JO is much improved. His first step has gotten better, he is confident going off the dribble. He is going to struggle in the post against physical bigs period. His rebounding is improved, his ability to draw bigs to the FT line and drive is improved. I agree he probably needs to work on his inside game, but he gets pushed off the block so easily I'm not sure what good it would do.
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Still can't figure out why everyone is so impressed with Scott Greenwalt. Jo after 3 years finally has a little definition in his upper body but is still essentially rail thin, I know, body type, but still. Outside of Gip (who still isn't in very good shape) its still a team with no significant physical prescence, I see no significant bulking up of any kind. When I say "bulking up" I mean in the sense of "bulking up" for basketball, broader shoulders that can clear space, hold off hand defenders at bay. There's absolutely no explosiveness from the legs anywhere to be found on this team either.
samuels supposedly put on 25 lbs or something in the offseason.
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KK, I was with you until the very end on the tempo talking point. When the tempo got sped up is when we destroyed them at the beginning of the 2nd half (a recurring theme).
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McGruder:
Seriously, who is this guy as a player?
A secondary role player, a wing man to a star, a leader?
He really perplexes me and last night was a perfect example. You simply have no idea what you are going to get on a night to night basis.
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i watched like half the game, and it's pretty clear i watched more of it than most of you. posting your pps and nns isn't required of anyone except tortuga. if you don't have anything intelligent to say, just head straight to the fball board and drool over there.
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Question; have you guys watched our perimeter defense in the past?
they haven't, _fan. they've probably been golfing.
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The defense was very very good last night.
yes. basically, all of our guards are decent to fine perimeter defenders. it's hilarious to hear them being attacked after a game that kstate pretty much won because of perimeter defense.
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#teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year.
don't agree, at all. his d technique is good, his feet are good, his speed and ability are good. he knows how to defend already, he doesn't have to figure anything out, he just has to stop sticking his hand on guys. when he did it last night, it wasn't even because he was beat and trying to keep from looking stupid. it was just bad luck/habit, he was guarding fine and just got his hands out. it's not going to take him until the end of the year to stop that. he's already not doing it anywhere near as much as 2 games ago.
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#teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year.
don't agree, at all. his d technique is good, his feet are good, his speed and ability are good. he knows how to defend already, he doesn't have to figure anything out, he just has to stop sticking his hand on guys. when he did it last night, it wasn't even because he was beat and trying to keep from looking stupid. it was just bad luck/habit, he was guarding fine and just got his hands out. it's not going to take him until the end of the year to stop that. he's already not doing it anywhere near as much as 2 games ago.
Habit is exactly right. Angel and #teamangel will be just fine.
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#teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year.
don't agree, at all. his d technique is good, his feet are good, his speed and ability are good. he knows how to defend already, he doesn't have to figure anything out, he just has to stop sticking his hand on guys. when he did it last night, it wasn't even because he was beat and trying to keep from looking stupid. it was just bad luck/habit, he was guarding fine and just got his hands out. it's not going to take him until the end of the year to stop that. he's already not doing it anywhere near as much as 2 games ago.
I didn't really mean his feet, etc. necessarily, more that he doesn't completely understand the big picture concepts, where to funnel to help, etc. Therefore he gets caught and puts his hands on people.
Question; have you guys watched our perimeter defense in the past?
they haven't, _fan. they've probably been golfing.
Man. Was that necessary? Man.
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#teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year.
don't agree, at all. his d technique is good, his feet are good, his speed and ability are good. he knows how to defend already, he doesn't have to figure anything out, he just has to stop sticking his hand on guys. when he did it last night, it wasn't even because he was beat and trying to keep from looking stupid. it was just bad luck/habit, he was guarding fine and just got his hands out. it's not going to take him until the end of the year to stop that. he's already not doing it anywhere near as much as 2 games ago.
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he wanted nothing to do with underwood trying to assertively talk to him after he was called for that in the second half last night up by half court. was funny.
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#teamangel's poor on-ball defense technique. I do agree in part that a lot of it is just getting rid of high school habits, but some is also getting used to the speed and ability of D1 guards. I think he'll eventually figure it out this year.
don't agree, at all. his d technique is good, his feet are good, his speed and ability are good. he knows how to defend already, he doesn't have to figure anything out, he just has to stop sticking his hand on guys. when he did it last night, it wasn't even because he was beat and trying to keep from looking stupid. it was just bad luck/habit, he was guarding fine and just got his hands out. it's not going to take him until the end of the year to stop that. he's already not doing it anywhere near as much as 2 games ago.
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he wanted nothing to do with underwood trying to assertively talk to him after he was called for that in the second half last night up by half court. was funny.
:love:
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Question; have you guys watched our perimeter defense in the past?
they haven't, _fan. they've probably been golfing.
Man. Was that necessary? Man.
he's just mad at ksu football and scott drew's baylor bears being top10(ish) teams and has chosen to take it out on you.
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I just want to say that the original post was very good.
:thumbs:
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Martavious is the most improved player this season.
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Is there a reason that Jamar keeps trying to dribble the basketball? I think he should stop trying to do this. I think he finishes around the rim about like he did 2 years ago.
I cringed every time 1 of our bigs put it on the floor in traffic underneath the hoop last night :ohno:
Get comfy with this. JO is much better at dribbling than some above give him credit for and the early returns on Gip doing the same are great. I don't see any reason at all for them to stop. I fact, I think they need to do it more under the right match ups.
I'll give you Gip. I can't remember anything good happening when Jamar tried to dribble.
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Speaking of dribbling, one of the biggest :facepalm: of the night was Southy's attempt to go coast to coast.
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Again, content like this makes my premium subscription so worthwhile.
Is there a reason that Jamar keeps trying to dribble the basketball? I think he should stop trying to do this. I think he finishes around the rim about like he did 2 years ago.
I cringed every time 1 of our bigs put it on the floor in traffic underneath the hoop last night :ohno:
Get comfy with this. JO is much better at dribbling than some above give him credit for and the early returns on Gip doing the same are great. I don't see any reason at all for them to stop. I fact, I think they need to do it more under the right match ups.
I'll give you Gip. I can't remember anything good happening when Jamar tried to dribble.
I noted JO(jordan) not jamar.
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KK, I was with you until the very end on the tempo talking point. When the tempo got sped up is when we destroyed them at the beginning of the 2nd half (a recurring theme).
We did have some nice breaks, but it was not due to their backcourt press.
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The defense was very very good last night.
yes. basically, all of our guards are decent to fine perimeter defenders. it's hilarious to hear them being attacked after a game that kstate pretty much won because of perimeter defense.
they were missing open shots
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NN: Gipson trimmed his beard
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NN: Gipson trimmed his beard
yes definite nn.
also, agree with dlew. always look forward to kk's PP/NN post game breakdown.
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NN: The game on ESPN3 was all small and weird.
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It would be fantastic if Gipson develops into some kind of supercombo of David Hoskins/DeJuan Blair.
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yes. basically, all of our guards are decent to fine perimeter defenders. it's hilarious to hear them being attacked after a game that kstate pretty much won because of perimeter defense.
they were missing open shots
they hit open shots too, i'm not referencing how kstate defended the 3 pt line, i'm referencing how the gw guards were unable to run their offense because of the pressure from the kstate guards.
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good grief, are you some sort of scientist? i certainly hope not :lol:
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you're funny. you're a funny man, mr. pissclams.
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I think our defense is meant to disrupt offenses and funnel guards into the lane where they can make mistakes (get blocked, turn it over, get a charge called on them, etc.). Because of our pressure you're going to give up some kick-out 3's but not allowing the other team to run their offense over the course of the game is the bigger factor.
Maybe. I don't know.
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KK, I was with you until the very end on the tempo talking point. When the tempo got sped up is when we destroyed them at the beginning of the 2nd half (a recurring theme).
We did have some nice breaks, but it was not due to their backcourt press.
It's not really about breaks, it's about our guys functioning more comfortably in transition sets rather than having to worry about where to go next, whom to look for, etc. We are far better even with outside shots in a transition setting before the offense is set.
I don't recall GW's full-court pressure bothering us at all, to be honest. Jamar's turnover was simply a gamble by GW and Jamar sticking his head up his ass.
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KK, I was with you until the very end on the tempo talking point. When the tempo got sped up is when we destroyed them at the beginning of the 2nd half (a recurring theme).
We did have some nice breaks, but it was not due to their backcourt press.
It's not really about breaks, it's about our guys functioning more comfortably in transition sets rather than having to worry about where to go next, whom to look for, etc. We are far better even with outside shots in a transition setting before the offense is set.
I don't recall GW's full-court pressure bothering us at all, to be honest. Jamar's turnover was simply a gamble by GW and Jamar sticking his head up his ass.
You're right. At the end of the game, the pressure did not bother us as much. Then again, we were up 12-17 points at home. I'm saying I think it would've been a better strategy for GW to pursue on both ends. That #3 Taylor or whatever should've been beating us down court all night.
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I think our defense is meant to disrupt offenses and funnel guards into the lane where they can make mistakes (get blocked, turn it over, get a charge called on them, etc.). Because of our pressure you're going to give up some kick-out 3's but not allowing the other team to run their offense over the course of the game is the bigger factor.
Maybe. I don't know.
You know. Good post.
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PP:
The refs. They were simply awesome. I hope we have refs who keep fighting ever fighting for a Wildcat Victory like those doodz all season. Every time we needed a break or the momentum was starting to go the wrong way they were right there for us.
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Why have we played so much better coming out of halftime in every game? I've heard people say that it's the constant rotation, but it seems that would be more of a factor in the last 10 minutes of the game, not the first ten minutes of the second half.
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Why have we played so much better coming out of halftime in every game? I've heard people say that it's the constant rotation, but it seems that would be more of a factor in the last 10 minutes of the game, not the first ten minutes of the second half.
I think it's because we're playing crappy teams. The guys dick around for 20 minutes. Frank tells Stan (and then the guys) how crappy the Cats are and that they don't come to play, etc. Then, in the second half they try hard and do much better.
Just my take.
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I think our defense is meant to disrupt offenses and funnel guards into the lane where they can make mistakes (get blocked, turn it over, get a charge called on them, etc.). Because of our pressure you're going to give up some kick-out 3's but not allowing the other team to run their offense over the course of the game is the bigger factor.
Maybe. I don't know.
You know. Good post.
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