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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: bigwillie20 on November 17, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
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:horrorsurprise: :popcorn:
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Will jim suffer a paterno fate?
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From Catholic Priests to Assistant Coaches. :sdeek:
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Jim Boeh..Boay...Bayheim putting the accuser on blast. Saying its all lies.
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Saw the dude's talk on ESPN. Sure as hell looked like they were a couple of liars. Repeating questions, looking up before answering, etc. All types of things that the dudes on First 48 say are indications of lying.
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Davis said he met Fine as a fifth-grader, selling candy bars at Fine’s house. He said Fine then made him a ball boy, introduced him to players, got him good seats for games and took him on trips with the team. Eventually, Davis alleged, Fine became sexual with him. Davis alleges that Fine’s abuse happened at the Syracuse basketball facility, at the coach’s home and on Orange road trips.
While much of the story parallels the allegations against Sandusky – a child wooed with favors and gifts – Davis alleges that Fine’s sexual abuse of him continued until he was 27 years old.
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What does a ball boy do in college basketball?
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What does a ball boy do in college basketball?
Takes care of the balls
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those fuckers are shady as hell
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What does a ball boy do in college basketball?
Takes care of the balls
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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BITB Jason Whitlock calls BS on this one fellas.
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Davis said he met Fine as a fifth-grader, selling candy bars at Fine’s house. He said Fine then made him a ball boy, introduced him to players, got him good seats for games and took him on trips with the team. Eventually, Davis alleged, Fine became sexual with him. Davis alleges that Fine’s abuse happened at the Syracuse basketball facility, at the coach’s home and on Orange road trips.
While much of the story parallels the allegations against Sandusky – a child wooed with favors and gifts – Davis alleges that Fine’s sexual abuse of him continued until he was 27 years old.
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Yes, weird. At 27, isn't that just "dating?" Between that and them continually referring to him as a ball boy, I had a hard time following the chronology of the story. Also reminded me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer becomes a U.S. Open ball boy.
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What does a ball boy do in college basketball?
Takes care of the balls
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i appreciate the crap out of this post and the timing of the drums. probably your best post ever, my friend. (to be honest, i'm not sure i remember any of your other posts, so there's that)
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Davis said he met Fine as a fifth-grader, selling candy bars at Fine’s house. He said Fine then made him a ball boy, introduced him to players, got him good seats for games and took him on trips with the team. Eventually, Davis alleged, Fine became sexual with him. Davis alleges that Fine’s abuse happened at the Syracuse basketball facility, at the coach’s home and on Orange road trips.
While much of the story parallels the allegations against Sandusky – a child wooed with favors and gifts – Davis alleges that Fine’s sexual abuse of him continued until he was 27 years old.
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Yes, weird. At 27, isn't that just "dating?" Between that and them continually referring to him as a ball boy, I had a hard time following the chronology of the story. Also reminded me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer becomes a U.S. Open ball boy.
hahahaha good comparo
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Jim Boeh..Boay...Bayheim putting the accuser on blast. Saying its all lies.
Boeheim calling those dudes out is bat crap crazy. Boeheim has no idea how that man spends his time when he is away from campus. If it so happens that the accusations are even the slightest bit true he may have cost himself his job and a certain lawsuit because of that quote. He should have kept his mouth shut considering the assistant got suspended anyway, really dumb gamble by Boeheim.
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What does a ball boy do in college basketball?
Takes care of the balls
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i appreciate the crap out of this post and the timing of the drums. probably your best post ever, my friend. (to be honest, i'm not sure i remember any of your other posts, so there's that)
It was a fantastic post, and I thought the same thing. I was like, who is this guy? And he has 1200+ posts. WTF?
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Jim Boeh..Boay...Bayheim putting the accuser on blast. Saying its all lies.
Boeheim calling those dudes out is bat crap crazy. Boeheim has no idea how that man spends his time when he is away from campus. If it so happens that the accusations are even the slightest bit true he may have cost himself his job and a certain lawsuit because of that quote. He should have kept his mouth shut considering the assistant got suspended anyway, really dumb gamble by Boeheim.
The accusers are claiming the Boeheim knew about it.
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What does a ball boy do in college basketball?
Takes care of the balls
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i appreciate the crap out of this post and the timing of the drums. probably your best post ever, my friend. (to be honest, i'm not sure i remember any of your other posts, so there's that)
It was a fantastic post, and I thought the same thing. I was like, who is this guy? And he has 1200+ posts. WTF?
Being it's called a "rimshot", seems kinda appropriate. Creepy, but appropriate. :sdeek:
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http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7286347/otl-audio-tape-syracuse-orange-assistant-bernie-fine-wife-admits-worries-abuse
kid banged Fine's wife too.
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So is calling the victims of child rape liars a fireable offense? I say YES!
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I still haven't read an article dumbed down enough to tell me when the kid made the transition from ballboy to Fine Family sex toy, but the age of consent in NY is 17. Depending on when things went down, starting to sound more like an open marriage gone freaky wrong than a crime. Would still be pretty bad for an assistant coach to be grooming swing partners through the hoops program.
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Can you imagine what frank would do to anyone caught molesting kids in his program? Feels good to know he would take them out back.
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I still haven't read an article dumbed down enough to tell me when the kid made the transition from ballboy to Fine Family sex toy, but the age of consent in NY is 17. Depending on when things went down, starting to sound more like an open marriage gone freaky wrong than a crime. Would still be pretty bad for an assistant coach to be grooming swing partners through the hoops program.
Two accusers claim the molestations started at 13, another said it started at 11. Either way it isn't going to be criminal the New York statute of limitations expired long ago. I'm not sure how the statute of limitations come into play if it was discovered that the Syracuse PD covered up the crimes years ago. I'm not sure what it means but the Secret Service has joined the investigation.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/us_secret_service_joins_invest.html (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/us_secret_service_joins_invest.html)
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/da-police_feud_turns_bernie_fi.html (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/da-police_feud_turns_bernie_fi.html)
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I still haven't read an article dumbed down enough to tell me when the kid made the transition from ballboy to Fine Family sex toy, but the age of consent in NY is 17. Depending on when things went down, starting to sound more like an open marriage gone freaky wrong than a crime. Would still be pretty bad for an assistant coach to be grooming swing partners through the hoops program.
Fine started molesting the kid when he was 11...and while that's plenty old enough to eff in states like Arkansas and Missouri, it's looked down upon and considered a felony in New York. The kid banged Mrs Fine when he was 18 and obviously totally mumped in his melon (have you seen her?)...kid's gotta have serious issues. Here's hoping Mr and Mrs Fine kill themselves.
Statue of limitations is up with the two brothers but the third kid is still within the window.
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I'm not sure how the statute of limitations come into play if it was discovered that the Syracuse PD covered up the crimes years ago. I'm not sure what it means but the Secret Service has joined the investigation.
I think there are usually state law SOL exceptions for when a crime is undiscoverable, but that's different from being discovered or discoverable and simply not acted on.
I gathered this morning that Feds are involved because the 3rd dude (who has charges pending against himself for kid sex) claimed to have been taken across states or communicated with across states, making it potentially a Fed crime that fits in the much-longer Fed SOL, 10 years.
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Fine started molesting the kid when he was 11...
Probably, but I won't be shocked if it turns out the kid started hooking up with both of them toward the end of high school and somebody got scorned and now this is happening.
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Surprised that there are even SOLs for molestation. Seems like many cases don't surface for years after the fact. Just seems odd. :ck:
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For 1st degree felonies of child sexual abuse, New York has no statute of limitations.
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For 1st degree felonies of child sexual abuse, New York has no statute of limitations.
Good.
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For 1st degree felonies of child sexual abuse, New York has no statute of limitations.
Good.
This is a couple years old: http://www.rainn.org/pdf-files-and-other-documents/Public-Policy/Legal-resources/2009-Statutes/09NewYorkStatutes.pdf
Fine isn't alleged to have done any of the stuff that would fall under the no-SOL rule.
http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article130.htm
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Well Fine got fired, the Boeheim press conference should be awesome. He better cry while apologizing to all victims of child rape and grovel to keep his job. The bald pricked needs to he humbled.
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Sandwich breath getting in his two cents with doyel on twitter.
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fine has been fired
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Well Fine got fired, the Boeheim press conference should be awesome. He better cry while apologizing to all victims of child rape and grovel to keep his job. The bald pricked needs to he humbled.
fine has been fired
Thanks for that update, clamslukephogdotroids.
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:lol:
Tomaselli does not appear to have deep ties to Maine. His Facebook page indicates that he lives in Manhattan, Kan., attends Kansas State University and is from Salina, Kan.
http://bangordailynews.com/2011/11/27/news/lewiston-auburn/lewiston-man-says-syracuse-coach-bernie-fine-sexually-abused-him/
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:lol:
Tomaselli does not appear to have deep ties to Maine. His Facebook page indicates that he lives in Manhattan, Kan., attends Kansas State University and is from Salina, Kan.
http://bangordailynews.com/2011/11/27/news/lewiston-auburn/lewiston-man-says-syracuse-coach-bernie-fine-sexually-abused-him/
Why :lol: and not :surprised:
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(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/273853_100002491640889_943420398_n.jpg)
:horrorsurprise:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002491640889
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Why :lol: and not :surprised:
So, he splits time between Maine and Salina during offseasons from KSU, and picked up his own sex crime charge along the way? Pretty incredible.
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Of course, we'd love to have Zach write our next goEMAW guest blog.
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Of course, we'd love to have Zach write our next goEMAW guest blog.
Holy crap.
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2 things.
1) Is he stormnut?
2) rockchalk0613 :dubious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsToBpF2opU&feature=player_embedded
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Why :lol: and not :surprised:
So, he splits time between Maine and Salina during offseasons from KSU, and picked up his own sex crime charge along the way? Pretty incredible.
Just like me. Just replace Salina with beautiful Wichita and cut out that pesky sex offense.
If he does post here makes me happy to know that he knew I was on the cutting edge of this from the start.
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If somebody knows Zach, get him to post here.
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well this just got weird.
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kid seems a little limp-wristed.
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if you keep rough ridin' an old dude till you're 27, and you eff his wife, then him molesting you at 11 is outside the statute of limitations. that's just common sense.
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if you keep rough ridin' an old dude till you're 27, and you eff his wife, then him molesting you at 11 is outside the statute of limitations. that's just common sense.
:lol:
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i feel like this Tomaselli thing isn't getting enough attention here. i mean, holy crap.
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i feel like this Tomaselli thing isn't getting enough attention here. i mean, holy crap.
Agreed... wtf. Worst weather man ever.
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(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/273853_100002491640889_943420398_n.jpg)
:horrorsurprise:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002491640889
Zach seems to be confused as to if he's EMAW or EMAJ. Maybe this photographer caught him as he was TSCing?
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kinda seems like he got what he deserved, if you ask me.
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kinda seems like he got what he deserved, if you ask me.
I very rarely post, but this goes way too far. He was an innocent kid, pushed into kufandom by the gropey hands of a pederast. Nobody deserves that.
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kinda seems like he got what he deserved, if you ask me.
I very rarely post, but this goes way too far. He was an innocent kid, pushed into kufandom by the gropey hands of a pederast. Nobody deserves that.
of all the horrible things posted on this site (mostly by me), that's the post that sent you over the edge?
:lol:
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kinda seems like he got what he deserved, if you ask me.
:thumbs: :thumbs:
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kinda seems like he got what he deserved, if you ask me.
I very rarely post, but this goes way too far. He was an innocent kid, pushed into kufandom by the gropey hands of a pederast. Nobody deserves that.
of all the horrible things posted on this site (mostly by me), that's the post that sent you over the edge?
:lol:
OK_Cat missing it....
Good post.
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damnit.
great post, husserl.
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step your game up, OK_Cat
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you know what, emawblast? you're right.
i've been very lackadaisical with my posting, basically just turned my keyboard on cruise control.
i reached a pinnacle in my real-life pi'ing/making fun of dead people when austin box's sister sent me very mean messages on twitter, and i just haven't recovered. :embarrassed:
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you know what, emawblast? you're right.
i've been very lackadaisical with my posting, basically just turned my keyboard on cruise control.
i reached a pinnacle in my real-life pi'ing/making fun of dead people when austin box's sister sent me very mean messages on twitter, and i just haven't recovered. :embarrassed:
I know what you mean. I got a very stern DM from zombie Box's sister on Twitter too. I had a lot of remorse for about .00000001 second. Snap out of it man.
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you know what, emawblast? you're right.
i've been very lackadaisical with my posting, basically just turned my keyboard on cruise control.
i reached a pinnacle in my real-life pi'ing/making fun of dead people when austin box's sister sent me very mean messages on twitter, and i just haven't recovered. :embarrassed:
I know what you mean. I got a very stern DM from zombie Box's sister on Twitter too. I had a lot of remorse for about .00000001 second. Snap out of it man.
To pretend you aren't scared of zombies seems kind of pedantic to me.
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Collegian about to get a lot of page views...
@WhitlockJason
Jason Whitlock Holy crap, 3rd accuser Zach Tomaselli told K-State student newspaper very detailed story that will create big problems http://www.kstatecollegian.com/news/prospective-k-state-student-comes-forward-in-syracuse-abuse-scandal-1.2678387#.Ttefila2FxU
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JFC his dad pimped him out? His father was strictly religious, his sister was disowned for having pre marital sex, but sexual abuse is fine?
:headexplode:
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Collegian about to get a lot of page views...
@WhitlockJason
Jason Whitlock Holy crap, 3rd accuser Zach Tomaselli told K-State student newspaper very detailed story that will create big problems http://www.kstatecollegian.com/news/prospective-k-state-student-comes-forward-in-syracuse-abuse-scandal-1.2678387#.Ttefila2FxU
:sdeek:
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Collegian about to get a lot of page views...
@WhitlockJason
Jason Whitlock Holy crap, 3rd accuser Zach Tomaselli told K-State student newspaper very detailed story that will create big problems http://www.kstatecollegian.com/news/prospective-k-state-student-comes-forward-in-syracuse-abuse-scandal-1.2678387#.Ttefila2FxU
:sdeek:
from the comments:
How can we write this story and ignore the other side of Zach Tomaselli. He is already accused of sexually abusing a 14 year old boy himself. I'm not certain we should be giving him credit with coming forward when he is accused of similar crimes himself.
:sdeek:
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Collegian about to get a lot of page views...
@WhitlockJason
Jason Whitlock Holy crap, 3rd accuser Zach Tomaselli told K-State student newspaper very detailed story that will create big problems http://www.kstatecollegian.com/news/prospective-k-state-student-comes-forward-in-syracuse-abuse-scandal-1.2678387#.Ttefila2FxU
jfc. yuck.
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yup. felt quite proud to read the collegian this morning. :cool:
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Wow. His sister was in my class in grade school. I'm not buying his story.
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Collegian about to get a lot of page views...
@WhitlockJason
Jason Whitlock Holy crap, 3rd accuser Zach Tomaselli told K-State student newspaper very detailed story that will create big problems http://www.kstatecollegian.com/news/prospective-k-state-student-comes-forward-in-syracuse-abuse-scandal-1.2678387#.Ttefila2FxU
:sdeek:
from the comments:
How can we write this story and ignore the other side of Zach Tomaselli. He is already accused of sexually abusing a 14 year old boy himself. I'm not certain we should be giving him credit with coming forward when he is accused of similar crimes himself.
:sdeek:
After that incident concluded, Tomaselli said that he sat back onto the bed and was joined by Fine. He said that Fine then repeatedly fondled his genitals for five to 10 minute intervals over the course of the night. Eventually they went to sleep.
"When I woke up, Bernie was already in a suit. He looked at me and said ‘It's gameday.'" Tomaselli said.
:lol: The first thing Fine says to the kid after fondling his junk in the morning.
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Collegian about to get a lot of page views...
@WhitlockJason
Jason Whitlock Holy crap, 3rd accuser Zach Tomaselli told K-State student newspaper very detailed story that will create big problems http://www.kstatecollegian.com/news/prospective-k-state-student-comes-forward-in-syracuse-abuse-scandal-1.2678387#.Ttefila2FxU
:sdeek:
from the comments:
How can we write this story and ignore the other side of Zach Tomaselli. He is already accused of sexually abusing a 14 year old boy himself. I'm not certain we should be giving him credit with coming forward when he is accused of similar crimes himself.
:sdeek:
After that incident concluded, Tomaselli said that he sat back onto the bed and was joined by Fine. He said that Fine then repeatedly fondled his genitals for five to 10 minute intervals over the course of the night. Eventually they went to sleep.
"When I woke up, Bernie was already in a suit. He looked at me and said ‘It's gameday.'" Tomaselli said.
:lol: The first thing Fine says to the kid after fondling his junk in the morning.
IT'S GAMEDAY