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Title: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 03, 2010, 11:00:27 AM
How do you graph a function on a graphing calculator?  Specifically this one:

http://my.hrw.com/math06_07/nsmedia/tools/Graph_Calculator/graphCalc.html

trying to graph: f(x) = 1/5(x + 4)^3

THIS IS AWFUL
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 03, 2010, 11:04:10 AM
How do you graph a function on a graphing calculator?  Specifically this one:

http://my.hrw.com/math06_07/nsmedia/tools/Graph_Calculator/graphCalc.html

trying to graph: f(x) = 1/5(x + 4)^3

THIS IS AWFUL

Put a (*) between your 1/5 and (x+4)^3.   Then it will graph.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Johnny Wichita on March 03, 2010, 11:07:42 AM
Good at math.  Never used a graphing calculator.   :cool:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 03, 2010, 11:07:50 AM
I don't know/care what a function is but this chapter is chocked full of questions about them.  Very angering.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 03, 2010, 11:09:07 AM
I don't know/care what a function is but this chapter is chocked full of questions about them.  Very angering.

Bet I could whip it out in 5 mins.   :cool:

Kind of a nerd like that.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 03, 2010, 11:11:47 AM
I don't know/care what a function is but this chapter is chocked full of questions about them.  Very angering.

Bet I could whip it out in 5 mins.   :cool:

Kind of a nerd like that.
orly? THIS IS A TEST: (for testing purposes only)

One question has a graph and it has points at -2.4 and 2.2 and a curvy line thing between them (above the X line) and says that shows y=f(x)

It wants the answer for y=f(-x)

Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 03, 2010, 11:14:04 AM
I don't know/care what a function is but this chapter is chocked full of questions about them.  Very angering.

Bet I could whip it out in 5 mins.   :cool:

Kind of a nerd like that.
orly? THIS IS A TEST: (for testing purposes only)

One question has a graph and it has points at -2.4 and 2.2 and a curvy line thing between them (above the X line) and says that shows y=f(x)

It wants the answer for y=f(-x)



Multiply your function by a negative (-) and regraph.   :cool:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 03, 2010, 11:15:39 AM
I don't know/care what a function is but this chapter is chocked full of questions about them.  Very angering.

Bet I could whip it out in 5 mins.   :cool:

Kind of a nerd like that.
orly? THIS IS A TEST: (for testing purposes only)

One question has a graph and it has points at -2.4 and 2.2 and a curvy line thing between them (above the X line) and says that shows y=f(x)

It wants the answer for y=f(-x)



Wait did it give you a function?  Or just wants to know y=f(-x) for the two points?
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 03, 2010, 11:20:30 AM
It gives the function of y=f(x)

It wants to know the points for y=f(-x) and graph it
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 03, 2010, 11:25:45 AM
It gives the function of y=f(x)

It wants to know the points for y=f(-x) and graph it

Should mirror itself at the point where it croses the x-axis.

Edited for clarification.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 03, 2010, 11:35:05 AM
It doesn't cross the x-axis, it crosses the y-axis. (the one going up and down)
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 03, 2010, 11:40:16 AM
It doesn't cross the x-axis, it crosses the y-axis. (the one going up and down)

It doesn't cross the X-axis at all?  Zoom out on your graph to make sure.  Is it a U shape graph that doesn't cross the x-axis?
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: CHONGS on March 03, 2010, 11:44:46 AM
need to know if the function is even or odd....

Is it symmetric about the y-axis?  if so, its an even function and then the graph will be the same f(-x) = f(x)

If it is anti-symmetric (mirrored about the line y=x) then it is an odd function and f(-x) = - f(x)

If it is neither then you don't have enough info to say without the explicit function.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 03, 2010, 11:46:01 AM
No idea what any of that means. How bout you just give me the answer, bub. :cool:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: CHONGS on March 03, 2010, 11:50:04 AM
No idea what any of that means. How bout you just give me the answer, bub. :cool:
would love to, but I need to see the graph. 

Are the all of the points in your graph postive?

IF so then I bet its an even function, and then the graph of f(-x) would look exactly like f(x)
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 03, 2010, 11:54:22 AM
No idea what any of that means. How bout you just give me the answer, bub. :cool:
would love to, but I need to see the graph. 

Are the all of the points in your graph postive?

IF so then I bet its an even function, and then the graph of f(-x) would look exactly like f(x)

The two points given to him are not the same, both above the X-axis.  One is positive, the other is negative.  -2.4 and 2.2 if I recall correctly?  This would not make it symmetrical about the Y-Axis if the X directions of the points is -2.4 and 2.2.

Definitely need to see a graph.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Cire on March 03, 2010, 11:56:31 AM
I failed college algebra the first time bc I had no idea how to use one.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 03, 2010, 12:01:35 PM
I failed college algebra the first time bc I had no idea how to use one.
At nearly mid-semester of College Algebra I still have no idea how to use one.  Very intimidating.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: chum1 on March 03, 2010, 12:02:33 PM
Why not just post the question?
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: CHONGS on March 03, 2010, 12:06:38 PM
just flip it about the y-axis

I was making life too complicated (since this is a function).
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 03, 2010, 12:16:33 PM
TI-89 Titanium

Couldn't have lived without it.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: 06wildcat on March 03, 2010, 12:35:00 PM
That's not fracking math, it's torture. Anyone not an engineer or rocket surgeon has no need for that kind of chit. Colleges would better prepare people by offering more comprehensive stats/research classes that involve real-world math.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 03, 2010, 12:35:44 PM
That's not fracking math, it's torture. Anyone not an engineer or rocket surgeon has no need for that kind of chit. Colleges would better prepare people by offering more comprehensive stats/research classes that involve real-world math.
AGREED. I don't have a use for anything beyond 6th grade math, really.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: CHONGS on March 03, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
That's not fracking math, it's torture. Anyone not an engineer or rocket surgeon has no need for that kind of chit. Colleges would better prepare people by offering more comprehensive stats/research classes that involve real-world math.
:flush:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: chum1 on March 03, 2010, 12:54:12 PM
How do you do meaningful statistics without functions?
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: 06wildcat on March 03, 2010, 01:01:18 PM
How do you do meaningful statistics without functions?

You can't, but college algebra has to be the worst way to go about introducing the concept to the general population. You'd be surprised at the number of people that can't figure out, let alone understand, how their property taxes are calculated or that mill levies/property valuations are irrelevant independently. These are the same people that have no understanding of poll results or what may skew poll results (eg biased questions). There's a lot of ways to go about teaching the concepts that don't involve finding x,y and z that would greatly improve the public's understanding of complex equations in our world.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 03, 2010, 01:04:25 PM
How do you do meaningful statistics without functions?
You don't do statistics.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: kazzu on March 03, 2010, 02:14:48 PM
Saul, I'm good at teaching math, at least better than the non english speaking TA you have. Anyways, this site (wolframalpha) is a type of AI. Anticipates what you want with specific functions you enter. I use it to make sure I'm doing things correctly, much cheaper than a solutions manual too (free).
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=f(x)+%3D+1/5(x+%2B+4)^3 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=f(x)+%3D+1/5(x+%2B+4)^3)

It will show you the graph and any other things.  :cool: :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: catsdo on March 04, 2010, 11:44:42 PM
I figured Saul was too old to be in college.  Don't know why.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: hemmy on March 05, 2010, 12:12:53 AM
College Algebra  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 05, 2010, 07:34:45 AM
I figured Saul was too old to be in college.  Don't know why.   :dunno:
I am too old to be in college.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: steve dave on March 05, 2010, 08:54:24 AM
http://polymathematics.typepad.com/polymath/2006/06/no_im_sorry_it_.html

 :eek:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: CHONGS on March 05, 2010, 09:33:45 AM
http://polymathematics.typepad.com/polymath/2006/06/no_im_sorry_it_.html

 :eek:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpolymathematics.typepad.com%2Fphotos%2Funcategorized%2F9s_equals&hash=1eedee928fd4c89262d7af1211b420e519f441c9)

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: PandaXpanda on March 05, 2010, 09:46:43 AM
True story: Panda is not very good at math.  When I took college algebra the teacher liked me cause I was funny.  He would walk me through every one of our tests and let me repeatedly re-do the problems until I got them right.  For the final I was only able to answer 8 out of the 17 questions.  I turned it in and he just looked at me for roughly 15 secs and then was like "go sit down and get the hell out of my face." He then went on to answer every question for me, including the 8 I had attempted to do.  I got a perfect score on the final and a 98% in the class. 
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: steve dave on March 05, 2010, 09:48:21 AM
True story: Panda is not very good at math.  When I took college algebra the teacher liked me cause I was funny.  He would walk me through every one of our tests and let me repeatedly re-do the problems until I got them right.  For the final I was only able to answer 8 out of the 17 questions.  I turned it in and he just looked at me for roughly 15 secs and then was like "go sit down and get the hell out of my face." He then went on to answer every question for me, including the 8 I had attempted to do.  I got a perfect score on the final and a 98% in the class. 

Your prof. sounds like a sh1tty teacher
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: PandaXpanda on March 05, 2010, 09:49:56 AM
True story: Panda is not very good at math.  When I took college algebra the teacher liked me cause I was funny.  He would walk me through every one of our tests and let me repeatedly re-do the problems until I got them right.  For the final I was only able to answer 8 out of the 17 questions.  I turned it in and he just looked at me for roughly 15 secs and then was like "go sit down and get the hell out of my face." He then went on to answer every question for me, including the 8 I had attempted to do.  I got a perfect score on the final and a 98% in the class. 

Your prof. sounds like a sh1tty teacher

No.  Actually, quite the opposite.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 05, 2010, 09:51:37 AM
True, yet sad story:

One of my college professors wanted to show off how he had PI (3.14.....) memorized to 100 decimal places.  This was supposed to be during our Finals review.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: TBL on March 05, 2010, 09:53:19 AM
Algebra is double think.  :runaway:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: SleepFighter on March 05, 2010, 10:02:24 AM
Who doesn't take college algebra in high school?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: PandaXpanda on March 05, 2010, 10:07:36 AM
Who doesn't take college algebra in high school?  :dunno:

I did but didn't get college credit for it.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: SleepFighter on March 05, 2010, 11:13:17 AM
Who doesn't take college algebra in high school?  :dunno:

I did but didn't get college credit for it.   :dunno:

Of course you didn't.  It's just college algebra.  You get college credit for your high school calculus class.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: steve dave on March 06, 2010, 07:44:48 AM
Your momma’s so fat that the probability that she is in an arbitrary point in a room is 1
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: steve dave on March 06, 2010, 07:45:16 AM
Yo momma is so fat, the recursive function int yourMom{ (return yourMom();} causes a stack overflow
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: steve dave on March 06, 2010, 07:45:33 AM
Yo momma’s so fat that when I used multiple integration to find the volume under her curves, it turned out she was a hypervolume and could not be graphed.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: steve dave on March 06, 2010, 07:45:56 AM
Your momma's so fat that her weight can't be estimated using a t-distribution, since her fatness doesn't provide any degrees of freedom.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 06, 2010, 08:30:16 AM
Biz Calc was another class I had to use my skills of seduction to pass.  Thank you Becca.
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 06, 2010, 04:49:08 PM
haha. sd, those were pretty funny.  :frown:
Title: Re: Anyone good at math?
Post by: TBL on March 06, 2010, 10:19:58 PM
I like big women.  :love: :lick: :fatty: