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Title: martavious
Post by: steve dave on November 14, 2011, 06:56:36 PM
not warming up.  foot injury alleged.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 14, 2011, 07:00:55 PM
T's and P's
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 14, 2011, 07:01:08 PM
Foot Hernia?
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Post by: ednksu on November 14, 2011, 10:18:42 PM
in a walking boot
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Post by: jtksu on November 14, 2011, 10:47:32 PM
Not like he was going to be starting for long anyway.
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Post by: Clevey 2 Times on November 14, 2011, 11:16:03 PM
Hoping Martavious can be a 3rd option at the point and someone to spell guys at the 2. Unfortunately, we'll probably see many flat jumpers clank off the rim from Martavious. He is a decent defender, but would much rather give Southwell his minutes at the 2.
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Post by: Kat Kid on November 14, 2011, 11:26:21 PM
Hoping Martavious can be a 3rd option at the point and someone to spell guys at the 2. Unfortunately, we'll probably see many flat jumpers clank off the rim from Martavious. He is a decent defender, but would much rather give Southwell his minutes at the 2.

You seem confused.  Those are Southwell's specialty.  Although I was impressed with his minutes tonight, he is not even close to being as much of an offensive threat as Martavious.
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Post by: _33 on November 14, 2011, 11:36:01 PM
Shane's value is in his versatility on D.  The only reason anyone thinks he is a good passer is because frank said it one time.
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Post by: Kat Kid on November 14, 2011, 11:38:12 PM
Shane's value is in his versatility on D.  The only reason anyone thinks he is a good passer is because frank said it one time.

He is an inconsistent passer.  But 5:2 A/TO is an indication he had a good game passing.
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Post by: kougar24 on November 14, 2011, 11:44:43 PM
Shane's value is in his versatility on D.  The only reason anyone thinks he is a good passer is because frank said it one time.

not true, at all.
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Post by: sys on November 14, 2011, 11:47:53 PM
Shane's value is in his versatility on D.  The only reason anyone thinks he is a good passer is because frank said it one time.

he's a great passer in the sense that if someone is open and in position to score, southwell sees that and gets that person the ball.  he's a poor passer in the sense that if there is a defender in between southwell and the open man, southwell either doesn't see that or doesn't care.
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Post by: jtksu on November 15, 2011, 12:25:08 AM
Southie is still super young and looks a bit bewildered at times. I would like to think that, with more experience and the comfort that should come with it, we will see fewer dumbass passes  from him.  Like Sys said, he sees the open guys a lot but seems to not notice the defenders at times.  Kind of a forest/trees situ for him in the infancy of his 2nd season.
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Post by: pissclams on November 15, 2011, 08:05:02 AM
i know this is a 'tay thread but since the topic seems to have moved towards shane i just wanted to make note of his two handed push the ball/pass to mcOrebs as mcOrebs was cutting baseline last night.  very weird looking.  but.  it just goes to show the effort shane will put forth in making a pass.  any pass.
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Post by: wabash909 on November 15, 2011, 08:13:03 AM
i know this is a 'tay thread but since the topic seems to have moved towards shane i just wanted to make note of his two handed push the ball/pass to mcOrebs as mcOrebs was cutting baseline last night.  very weird looking.  but.  it just goes to show the effort shane will put forth in making a pass.  any pass.

Very good passer.  Even the passes that look like a game of hot potato.

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Post by: pissclams on November 15, 2011, 08:18:32 AM
shane has taken the passer's creed.
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Post by: felix rex on November 15, 2011, 08:37:37 AM
Shane's value is in his versatility on D.  The only reason anyone thinks he is a good passer is because frank said it one time.

he's a great passer in the sense that if someone is open and in position to score, southwell sees that and gets that person the ball.  he's a poor passer in the sense that if there is a defender in between southwell and the open man, southwell either doesn't see that or doesn't care.

#TeamShaneDon'tCare
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Post by: Kat Kid on November 15, 2011, 09:11:09 AM
Shane's value is in his versatility on D.  The only reason anyone thinks he is a good passer is because frank said it one time.

he's a great passer in the sense that if someone is open and in position to score, southwell sees that and gets that person the ball.  he's a poor passer in the sense that if there is a defender in between southwell and the open man, southwell either doesn't see that or doesn't care.

perfect.
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Post by: schreds21 on November 15, 2011, 01:09:44 PM
i know this is a 'tay thread but since the topic seems to have moved towards shane i just wanted to make note of his two handed push the ball/pass to mcOrebs as mcOrebs was cutting baseline last night.  very weird looking.  but.  it just goes to show the effort shane will put forth in making a pass.  any pass.

After living through the Asbury/Wooly years, the thing that impressed me about this play was not so much the pass itself, but the fact that we had someone on the receiving end who not only was looking for it, but actually caught the damn thing.
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Post by: pissclams on November 15, 2011, 01:30:10 PM
i know this is a 'tay thread but since the topic seems to have moved towards shane i just wanted to make note of his two handed push the ball/pass to mcOrebs as mcOrebs was cutting baseline last night.  very weird looking.  but.  it just goes to show the effort shane will put forth in making a pass.  any pass.

After living through the Asbury/Wooly years, the thing that impressed me about this play was not so much the pass itself, but the fact that we had someone on the receiving end who not only was looking for it, but actually caught the damn thing.
seems like a direct shot at george hill.
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Post by: Clevey 2 Times on November 15, 2011, 10:51:24 PM
Hoping Martavious can be a 3rd option at the point and someone to spell guys at the 2. Unfortunately, we'll probably see many flat jumpers clank off the rim from Martavious. He is a decent defender, but would much rather give Southwell his minutes at the 2.

You seem confused.  Those are Southwell's specialty.  Although I was impressed with his minutes tonight, he is not even close to being as much of an offensive threat as Martavious.

Yes, both highly adept at flat clanking bricks from 17+ feet out, but Shane is longer, a better passer, and generally more adorable. His offensive game will improve.
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Post by: kougar24 on November 16, 2011, 01:24:38 PM
Southie

no, denied.
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Post by: CNS on November 16, 2011, 01:36:59 PM
Southie

no, denied.

'Tucks are gonna love this.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 16, 2011, 01:45:48 PM
i know this is a 'tay thread but since the topic seems to have moved towards shane i just wanted to make note of his two handed push the ball/pass to mcOrebs as mcOrebs was cutting baseline last night.  very weird looking.  but.  it just goes to show the effort shane will put forth in making a pass.  any pass.

After living through the Asbury/Wooly years, the thing that impressed me about this play was not so much the pass itself, but the fact that we had someone on the receiving end who not only was looking for it, but actually caught the damn thing.
seems like a direct shot at george hill.

Noticed that.  for shame.
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Post by: kso_FAN on November 16, 2011, 01:52:46 PM
i know this is a 'tay thread but since the topic seems to have moved towards shane i just wanted to make note of his two handed push the ball/pass to mcOrebs as mcOrebs was cutting baseline last night.  very weird looking.  but.  it just goes to show the effort shane will put forth in making a pass.  any pass.

After living through the Asbury/Wooly years, the thing that impressed me about this play was not so much the pass itself, but the fact that we had someone on the receiving end who not only was looking for it, but actually caught the damn thing.
seems like a direct shot at george hill.

Noticed that.  for shame.

Defaming George Hill should be automatic grounds for banning. JMHO.
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Post by: pissclams on November 16, 2011, 02:26:56 PM
the name "Martavious" fits well in place of the word "Disturbia", in Rihanna's hit song "Disturbia".
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Post by: EllToPay on November 16, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
the name "Martavious" fits well in place of the word "Disturbia", in Rihanna's hit song "Disturbia".

also fits well with the word "Notorious," in Notorious BIG's hit song "Notorious."
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Post by: pissclams on November 16, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
yes, great catch E2P.

i'm smelling a brilliant thread idea cooking.
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Post by: Kat Kid on November 16, 2011, 08:53:24 PM
the name "Martavious" fits well in place of the word "Disturbia", in Rihanna's hit song "Disturbia".

MAR  MAR  MAR

MAR-TAY-VIOUS!

HE IS!  HE IS!

MAR-TAY-VIOUS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcONrTG7nk&ob=av2n (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcONrTG7nk&ob=av2n)
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Post by: Kat Kid on November 16, 2011, 08:57:14 PM
yes, great catch E2P.

i'm smelling a brilliant thread idea cooking.

Wow.  I've been thinking this for awhile.  I see clams post this and I'm all like:  "daaaamn, gonna drop some science on fools!"  e2p's like an assassin sneaking in and droppin dimes before his time son.  he's all precocious up in this mother.
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Post by: EllToPay on November 16, 2011, 09:11:41 PM
yes, great catch E2P.

i'm smelling a brilliant thread idea cooking.

Wow.  I've been thinking this for awhile.  I see clams post this and I'm all like:  "daaaamn, gonna drop some science on fools!"  e2p's like an assassin sneaking in and droppin dimes before his time son.  he's all precocious up in this mother.

:brushestortugaoffmyshoulders:
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Post by: steve dave on November 17, 2011, 07:41:28 PM
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Frank Martin says Martavious Irving will play on Tuesday. Irving missed Kansas State's last game with an ankle injury, but practiced today.