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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: wabash909 on November 13, 2011, 05:12:09 PM
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My question is, what must we do? Lay out some scenarios. Sure, beating down our rivals in this year's football incarnation of the Chisolm Trail, but what else must occur?
I think I love this bowl more than any of the other ones (Fiesta included) for sentimental DOD reasons. When we finally went in 1996 we had really "arrived" in DOD Volume 1. And just the thought of another 45,000 Wildcats fans caravaning down I-35 and pep rallying it up really gets my blood pumping.
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Honestly, beat UT and hope they lose a 4th. That's assuming both Oklahoma schools go BCS games.
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I think we'll still make it to the Cotton Bowl even if we finish 1-1 in these last two games.
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The entire DFW metroplex, including Jerry Jones, desperately want the Cats in the CB.
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#teamfiestabowl :comehere:
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Honestly, beat UT and hope they lose a 4th. That's assuming both Oklahoma schools go BCS games.
Disregard this. Forgot UT lost to Missouri this weekend.
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optimal Cottonbowl opponent: ARKANSAS
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optimal Cottonbowl opponent: ARKANSAS
No. South Carolina
Arkansas is Capital One bound. Plus Arkansas would OU us.
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a fiesta or sugar bid isnt out of question
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optimal Cottonbowl opponent: ARKANSAS
No. South Carolina
Arkansas is Capital One bound. Plus Arkansas would OU us.
no denied
maybe you are a squawk and didn't hear after the OU game that THIS AIN"T HAPPENIN AGAIN!
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a fiesta or sugar bid isnt out of question
please outline the scenario that puts us in the sugar bowl.
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#teamfiestabowl :comehere:
well yeah.
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"The Sugar Bowl hosts the Southeastern Conference (SEC) champion unless (under the current BCS alignment) the team is selected to play in the national championship game; in that case the Sugar Bowl can select a team at-large from any conference as the host team. "
I'm not saying its likely but by some fluke happening where Bama loses out we could possibley get chosen depending on our BCS rank. Which with only Georgia Southern and Auburn left, isnt very likely. And with Boise out of the BCS picture now it opens up anotehr spot for a 2 loss BCS school to take the Sugars at large bid.
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If OU beats OSU, I think OU and OSU could be in the BCS. However, if OSU gets passed up by the BCS, Cotton will surely pick them.
If OSU beats OU, a two loss OU team gets picked by the Cotton Bowl, IMO.
Unfortunately, I don't really see how we get into the Cotton unless we win out and BOTH of the Oklahoma schools go to the BCS. :frown:
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We would play Georgia in the cotton bowl
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I suppose it's possible that OU could lose at Baylor, but I don't think either they or OSU will lose to ISU.
OU losing to Baylor and OSU would put us in the Cotton bowl if we win out.
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theres 4 BCS at large spots. If OU plays OSU close they'll still get in to a BCS. We're assured a Cotton Bowl bid in my eyes and possibley sneak into a BCS bowl depending on how things play out.
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Does a 10-2 cats team get an at large BCS bid over OU if they lose their last game by 3 td's?
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We need OU to beat OSU and have neither one lose another game. OU would go Fiesta, OSU would get another BCS bowl with only one loss. We will need to win out to hold up our end of the deal. That's it folks.
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Big question that I'm not sure anyone knows the answer to yet: Will the Sugar, Orange, or Fiesta pick a 1 loss Boise St. over any of the options belos:
a) 2 loss Va Tech/Clemson (who could have 3 as they still have S. Car and Va Tech)
b) 2 loss BigTen team (could really be any of 5 at this point and this team would also have to not play in their CCG. The loser of their CCG will have 3 loses)
c) 2 loss OU/1 loss OSU
I have a very hard time seeing how the Big12 doesn't get 2 BCS bids. If OSU wins out then the Fiesta has 2 at-large bids, no way they pass on a 2 loss OU team TWICE to take 2 of the above or BE Champ. Are they really going to pass up a 2 loss OU for a 2 loss ACC team, a 2 loss BigTen team, a 1 loss Boise St., or the BE champ. I don't see the Fiesta Bowl shunning their conference partner for 2 of those teams. I guess they could take Stanford and Boise, but then I don't see either the Sugar or Orange passing up OU for any of those teams either.
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Has a BCS conf ever gotten three teams into BCS games?
There's 10 spots, 5 AQ's. Houston is the only mid-major that has a shot at one of those at large's, hopefully the BCS tells them to fuckoff. ACC, and Big East should be forbidden from sending more than one team this year. That leaves 5 spots for the SEC, Big 12, big 10 and PAC second and third placed teams. If Stanford wins out I could see them getting a draw. The big 10 is so down they could only get 1. That leaves 4 spots for SEC and Big 12.
pls check my math
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Has a BCS conf ever gotten three teams into BCS games?
There's 10 spots, 5 AQ's. Houston is the only mid-major that has a shot at one of those at large's, hopefully the BCS tells them to fuckoff. ACC, and Big East should be forbidden from sending more than one team this year. That leaves 5 spots for the SEC, Big 12, big 10 and PAC second and third placed teams. If Stanford wins out I could see them getting a draw. The big 10 is so down they could only get 1. That leaves 4 spots for SEC and Big 12.
pls check my math
No, and the only way a conference can have 3 BCS teams is if they have the #1 and #2 teams, and neither of which are their conference's champ, in which case the conference champ still gets their automatic tie in.
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If OU beats OSU, I think OU and OSU could be in the BCS. However, if OSU gets passed up by the BCS, Cotton will surely pick them.
If OSU beats OU, a two loss OU team gets picked by the Cotton Bowl, IMO.
Unfortunately, I don't really see how we get into the Cotton unless we win out and BOTH of the Oklahoma schools go to the BCS. :frown:
If OSU goes to the NC, wouldn't OU go Fiesta?
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If I go to the Cotton bowl, I'm buying seats at the very tippy top of the upper deck along the sideline. I'm not going to pay extra to sit down low. Nope. I'll sit in my cheap seats and watch the sucker on that big TV of theirs.
I will use the money that I save for nachos, hot dog sandwiches, and drinks.
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#teamfiestabowl :comehere:
#DirectFlightsWild wild cat
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True Cotton Bowl story for you...
In 1996, a young Limestone and a young Pete were about to board a flight from KC to Love field on New Year's eve, in route to the Southwester Bell Cotton Bowl the following morning.
Welp, the flight got delayed by a a couple hours, so we had to get super drunk in the mexican themed bar in KCI. Limestone and I ended up leading several renditions of the KSU fight song and Alma Mater in the isle at 30,000 feet. The flight staff was very understanding.
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Pete, now tell us what happens if the unimaginable occurs and we lose to Texas in the CTR, but beat ISU and finish 9-3, while Texas beats us and Baylor, but loses to A&M and finishes 8-4.
Does a K-State team with a better comference record and higher BCS ranking get passed for the Cotton?
I think I know the answer but need confirmation.
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True Cotton Bowl story for you...
In 1996, a young Limestone and a young Pete were about to board a flight from KC to Love field on New Year's eve, in route to the Southwester Bell Cotton Bowl the following morning.
Welp, the flight got delayed by a a couple hours, so we had to get super drunk in the mexican themed bar in KCI. Limestone and I ended up leading several renditions of the KSU fight song and Alma Mater in the isle at 30,000 feet. The flight staff was very understanding.
See guys, this is why we need to go back to the Cotton Bowl.
I would share my memories of the Dallas Medieval Times, but it wouldn't really compare.
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If OU beats OSU, I think OU and OSU could be in the BCS. However, if OSU gets passed up by the BCS, Cotton will surely pick them.
If OSU beats OU, a two loss OU team gets picked by the Cotton Bowl, IMO.
Unfortunately, I don't really see how we get into the Cotton unless we win out and BOTH of the Oklahoma schools go to the BCS. :frown:
If OSU goes to the NC, wouldn't OU go Fiesta?
No, jfc people...the big 12 is not guaranteed two spots and another OU loss could have them on the outside looking in. OU beating OSU is our best bet at securing the Cotton.
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Another true Cotton Bowl story for you.
A young Pete's younger sister relayed him a sordid tale the morning of the game, how our super star cornerback was out very, very late the night before the game having quite the time. That super star cornerback went on to seriously cramp up during the early morning game and be off the field while we battled BYU's potent passing attack.
go cats
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Pete, now tell us what happens if the unimaginable occurs and we lose to Texas in the CTR, but beat ISU and finish 9-3, while Texas beats us and Baylor, but loses to A&M and finishes 8-4.
Does a K-State team with a better comference record and higher BCS ranking get passed for the Cotton?
I think I know the answer but need confirmation.
Cotton takes Texas, but we have a very, very nice time at the River Walk. At which, Tortuga falls in the river.
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If OU beats OSU, I think OU and OSU could be in the BCS. However, if OSU gets passed up by the BCS, Cotton will surely pick them.
If OSU beats OU, a two loss OU team gets picked by the Cotton Bowl, IMO.
Unfortunately, I don't really see how we get into the Cotton unless we win out and BOTH of the Oklahoma schools go to the BCS. :frown:
If OSU goes to the NC, wouldn't OU go Fiesta?
No, jfc people...the big 12 is not guaranteed two spots and another OU loss could have them on the outside looking in. OU beating OSU is our best bet at securing the Cotton.
Assuming that 2 BCS spots go to Stanford (or 3 loss ND team that beats Stanford) and Alabama, please rank the following teams and tell me what 2 teams the Fiesta, Orange, and Sugar would pick over a 2 loss OU team:
a) 2 loss VaTech or 2 (or 3) loss Clemson (outside BCS top 10)
b) 2 loss BigTen team that didn't play in their CCG (currently outside BCS top 15)
c) 1 loss Boise St (outside BCS top 10)
d) 2 loss OU (currently BCS 6th and wouldn't drop out of BCS top 10 unless blown out OSU)
e) 3 loss BigTen CCG loser.
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True Cotton Bowl story for you...
In 1996, a young Limestone and a young Pete were about to board a flight from KC to Love field on New Year's eve, in route to the Southwester Bell Cotton Bowl the following morning.
Welp, the flight got delayed by a a couple hours, so we had to get super drunk in the mexican themed bar in KCI. Limestone and I ended up leading several renditions of the KSU fight song and Alma Mater in the isle at 30,000 feet. The flight staff was very understanding.
We owned that flight, and that trip, like a couple of bosses.
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True Cotton Bowl story for you...
In 1996, a young Limestone and a young Pete were about to board a flight from KC to Love field on New Year's eve, in route to the Southwester Bell Cotton Bowl the following morning.
Welp, the flight got delayed by a a couple hours, so we had to get super drunk in the mexican themed bar in KCI. Limestone and I ended up leading several renditions of the KSU fight song and Alma Mater in the isle at 30,000 feet. The flight staff was very understanding.
See guys, this is why we need to go back to the Cotton Bowl.
I would share my memories of the Dallas Medieval Times, but it wouldn't really compare.
If we go again, I can almost guarantee a similar sequence of events.
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True story: When we went to the Cotton Bowl in 2001, it was abnormally cold for Texas. Like, pretty fricking cold. Two of my cousins and I were in middle school and we painted the letters "K", "S" AND "U" on our chests (I got the "S" for Stevesie) and everyone was so impressed with us that all the DFW news stations recorded us so that when they showed clips from the game that night they all included us, always with a comment like "Those wild wildcat fans are so wild!"
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True story: When we went to the Cotton Bowl in 2001, it was abnormally cold for Texas. Like, pretty fricking cold. Two of my cousins and I were in middle school and we painted the letters "K", "S" AND "U" on our chests (I got the "S" for Stevesie) and everyone was so impressed with us that all the DFW news stations recorded us so that when they showed clips from the game that night they all included us, always with a comment like "Those wild wildcat fans are so wild!"
LOL. I don't blame the TV crew, that's quite a feat. you guys pulled off :thumbs:
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True story: When we went to the Cotton Bowl in 2001, it was abnormally cold for Texas. Like, pretty fricking cold. Two of my cousins and I were in middle school and we painted the letters "K", "S" AND "U" on our chests (I got the "S" for Stevesie) and everyone was so impressed with us that all the DFW news stations recorded us so that when they showed clips from the game that night they all included us, always with a comment like "Those wild wildcat fans are so wild!"
Was at that game. Took no cold weather clothes, so wore t-shirt and shorts in the snow. Got awful drunk at Gators (?) a dueling piano bar. Laughed our asses off at a Tenn fan paying $100 for the piano guy to play Rocky Top, then having a KSU fan pay $1 for him to stop 3 notes in...
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If OSU wins out, they are in the NC game. If OU loses two (OSU and another) that opens us up to the Fiesta. Either way, if OSU wins out and we don't blow it in Austin or Manhattan, I think we are Cotton bound. Fiesta will take a two loss OU.
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OU are tapped out w/the Fiesta. If we beat UT, warm up the flying tortillas for the ISU game mothereffers. (presuming OSU win out)
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If OSU wins out, they are in the NC game. If OU loses two (OSU and another) that opens us up to the Fiesta. Either way, if OSU wins out and we don't blow it in Austin or Manhattan, I think we are Cotton bound. Fiesta will take a two loss OU.
if fiesta is smart, they are sick of ou. they will take ksu.
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If OSU wins out, they are in the NC game. If OU loses two (OSU and another) that opens us up to the Fiesta. Either way, if OSU wins out and we don't blow it in Austin or Manhattan, I think we are Cotton bound. Fiesta will take a two loss OU.
if fiesta is smart, they are sick of ou. they will take ksu.
Cotton and Fiesta fighting over us. :love:
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in august, I was hoping for ticket city or insight
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state of oklahoma conspiring to keep cats out of the Cotton. Might just backfire into a Fiesta invite.
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state of oklahoma conspiring to keep cats out of the Cotton. Might just backfire into a Fiesta invite.
hell, the Sugar may need a some what local team to buy a lot of tickets if we get Game of the Century 2.0
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I think we really need Houston to take a loss if we want to go BCS bowling. We do have an outside shot either way, though.
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I think we really need Houston to take a loss if we want to go BCS bowling. We do have an outside shot either way, though.
Houston has to play @Tulsa to end the regular season, and S. Miss in the CUSA champ (if they beat Tulsa) so they're not a lock to win out.