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Title: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: kougar24 on November 13, 2011, 12:24:25 PM
Now comparing The Chamber favorably to Michael Bishop.

They've gone full powerespect.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: kim carnes on November 13, 2011, 12:32:38 PM
Now comparing The Chamber favorably to Michael Bishop.

They've gone full powerespect.

hmmm... who cares?
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: Pete on November 13, 2011, 12:39:34 PM
I think there are quite a few posters on this site who hold Ell in higher esteem than he deserves.  Partly because they pretty young when they watched him.

Personally, I think CK is every bit as good as Ell.  Ell had more ability to make the big athletic play, but he was also prone to make bonehead plays (e.g. the game at UT in 2003).

Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: kougar24 on November 13, 2011, 12:41:38 PM
I think there are quite a few posters on this site who hold Ell in higher esteem than he deserves.  Partly because they pretty young when they watched him.

Personally, I think CK is every bit as good as Ell.  Ell had more ability to make the big athletic play, but he was also prone to make bonehead plays (e.g. the game at UT in 2003).



You can compare him to Ell.

You can't compare him to Bishop.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: hemmy on November 13, 2011, 12:49:08 PM
I think there are quite a few posters on this site who hold Ell in higher esteem than he deserves.  Partly because they pretty young when they watched him.

Personally, I think CK is every bit as good as Ell.  Ell had more ability to make the big athletic play, but he was also prone to make bonehead plays (e.g. the game at UT in 2003).



And if we didn't recover CK's fumble in the endzone?
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: HawaiiCat on November 13, 2011, 12:49:40 PM
Beasley was better than Klein too. He didn't make mistakes, and he could throw the ball pretty well.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: AbeFroman on November 13, 2011, 12:51:03 PM
He is equal to ell as far as i'm concerned, although their run styles are not the same. The bishop crap is ridiculous because bish could throw it 70 yards and let someone run under it
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: Pete on November 13, 2011, 01:04:18 PM
I think there are quite a few posters on this site who hold Ell in higher esteem than he deserves.  Partly because they pretty young when they watched him.

Personally, I think CK is every bit as good as Ell.  Ell had more ability to make the big athletic play, but he was also prone to make bonehead plays (e.g. the game at UT in 2003).



And if we didn't recover CK's fumble in the endzone?

Meh...I'll give it to the guy trying to win the game on a TD, versus the guy carrying it like a loaf of bread.


Also, I'll take CK over Beasley.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: Skipper44 on November 13, 2011, 01:10:44 PM
All of the DoD QBs had top 10 defenses, CK is doing it without a net
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2011, 01:16:13 PM
I think there are quite a few posters on this site who hold Ell in higher esteem than he deserves.  Partly because they pretty young when they watched him.

Personally, I think CK is every bit as good as Ell.  Ell had more ability to make the big athletic play, but he was also prone to make bonehead plays (e.g. the game at UT in 2003).



And if we didn't recover CK's fumble in the endzone?

Meh...I'll give it to the guy trying to win the game on a TD, versus the guy carrying it like a loaf of bread.


Also, I'll take CK over Beasley.

lol
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: Pete on November 13, 2011, 01:17:34 PM
Laugh it up.  I will take CK over Beasley and sleep well. 
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: kso_FAN on November 13, 2011, 01:23:12 PM
They are all pretty darn good. JMHO.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 13, 2011, 01:23:52 PM
Laugh it up.  I will take CK over Beasley and sleep well. 

it's close enough that i can't understand one side lol'ing at the other. would take ell and bish a hundred times out of a hundred though.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: kougar24 on November 13, 2011, 01:37:43 PM
Laugh it up.  I will take CK over Beasley and sleep well. 

it's close enough that i can't understand one side lol'ing at the other. would take ell and bish a hundred times out of a hundred though.

Yeah.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: kim carnes on November 13, 2011, 01:50:11 PM
Laugh it up.  I will take CK over Beasley and sleep well. 

it's close enough that i can't understand one side lol'ing at the other. would take ell and bish a hundred times out of a hundred though.

Ell would have been out for the season five games ago with turf toe because we have no running back.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: Trim on November 13, 2011, 02:15:12 PM
Laugh it up.  I will take CK over Beasley and sleep well. 

it's close enough that i can't understand one side lol'ing at the other. would take ell and bish a hundred times out of a hundred though.

Ell would have been out for the season five games ago with turf toe because we have no running back.

Any RB out there with Ell would become a lot better.  See 2003 Sproles vs. 2004 Sproles.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: kso_FAN on November 13, 2011, 02:20:33 PM
Laugh it up.  I will take CK over Beasley and sleep well. 

it's close enough that i can't understand one side lol'ing at the other. would take ell and bish a hundred times out of a hundred though.

Ell would have been out for the season five games ago with turf toe because we have no running back.

Any RB out there with Ell would become a lot better.  See 2003 Sproles vs. 2004 Sproles.

Sproles and Klein on stretch read would have been incredible.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 13, 2011, 02:27:28 PM
thanks for the update kougar24. dipsh*t.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2011, 02:55:58 PM
LMAO, I was thinking Curtis Kelly over Michael Beasley. :lol:
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: kim carnes on November 13, 2011, 03:52:30 PM
Laugh it up.  I will take CK over Beasley and sleep well. 

it's close enough that i can't understand one side lol'ing at the other. would take ell and bish a hundred times out of a hundred though.

Ell would have been out for the season five games ago with turf toe because we have no running back.

Any RB out there with Ell would become a lot better.  See 2003 Sproles vs. 2004 Sproles.

Imagine how bad Hubert would be without Klein.  Wow.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 13, 2011, 03:54:31 PM
LMAO, I was thinking Curtis Kelly over Michael Beasley. :lol:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2011, 04:05:56 PM
the offense today is a lot different than it was for ell. If Ell was primarily running zone read from the shotgun, things would have been a lot different.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on November 13, 2011, 05:35:02 PM
I think Ell has mroe natural ability but not nearly as tough or as good of a leader as HoneyBadger.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: CHONGS on November 13, 2011, 05:35:57 PM
the dirty truth is that ell was not that much faster than klein, he just looked faster to a lot of people
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: Kat Kid on November 13, 2011, 06:21:47 PM
Klein has not had nearly as many long runs as Ell.  I don't think we can say Klein is as explosive as Ell.  I don't know if that is necessarily speed, but it sure seems like it.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: kougar24 on November 13, 2011, 06:48:50 PM
thanks for the update kougar24. dipsh*t.

You are welcome, fatty.
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: Bookcat on November 13, 2011, 06:53:49 PM
Klein is a better running QB than Freeman!!


boom!
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on November 13, 2011, 06:54:04 PM
the dirty truth is that ell was not that much faster than klein, he just looked faster to a lot of people
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Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: EMAW4life-JHL on November 13, 2011, 06:54:40 PM
Klein is a better running QB than Freeman!!


boom!
what bold statements!
Title: Re: Tards skipping right over Ell
Post by: Katpappy on November 13, 2011, 07:05:36 PM
Klein is a better running QB than Freeman!!


boom!
Could you imagine what Synder would have done with FreeMaw... would run the crap out of him and would be lucky to finish a season without multiple injuries.  Definitely would not have been a first round pick in NFL.  Also keep in mind that Prince brought CK in as a pro style QB.  CK did not run much in high school and mainly passed.  Good thing FreeMaw got out of Katzland before OB had his way with him.  :angry: