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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: kso_FAN on November 10, 2011, 12:04:43 PM
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Key per play stats:
aTm Off yards per play: 6.29 (#27)
aTm Off points per play: .46 (#38)
aTm Off TOs per possession: .023 (#53)
aTm return game yards per return (KO and Punt): 15.74 (#102)
aTm Def YPP: 5.32 (#51)
aTm Def PPP: .36 (#54)
aTm Def TO forced PP: .010 (#119)
aTm return def YPR: 18.70 (#74)
KSU Off YPP: 5.12 (#92)
KSU Off PPP: .47 (#34)
KSU Off TOPP: .016 (#11)
KSU Ret YPP: 21.50 (#6)
KSU Def YPP: 5.99 (#93)
KSU Def PPP: .41 (#75)
KSU Def TOFPP: .035 (#20)
KSU Ret Def YPP: 16.25 (#27)
In looking at per play numbers, the only place aTm has a real advantage is in yards per play on offense and defense, but that's been the case with most of our opponents. 2 things really stand out in our favor; aTm is pretty bad in the return game and in TOs, especially in forcing TOs. I was slightly surprised that we are slightly better in offensive points per play. Unless K-State does something unconventional (likely multiple turnovers or a complete inability to run the ball) I don't see us losing this game. In fact, I think the win should be somewhat comfortable. I just think we are the better team and match up fairly well, especially given the injury to Michael.
Cats 41 - Aggies 27
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Did you factor in the untimely death of Tannehill?
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Did you factor in the untimely death of Tannehill?
We win either way.
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textbook classic KITN scenario:
-key injury to opponent
-on paper advantages to our strengths
-controls destiny for Cotton bowl berth, top 10 finish
-home game
-look ahead possibilities towards CTR matchup
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textbook classic (leave that crap on kstatefans) scenario:
-key injury to opponent
-on paper advantages to our strengths
-controls destiny for Cotton bowl berth, top 10 finish
-home game
-look ahead possibilities towards CTR matchup
We've lost two games in a row, if any of those things are a problem I'll be very disappointed.
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-controls destiny for Cotton bowl berth
nope
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-controls destiny for Cotton bowl berth
nope
YES.
:curse:
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-controls destiny for Cotton bowl berth
nope
YES.
:curse:
no, denied
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-controls destiny for Cotton bowl berth
nope
YES.
:curse:
no, denied
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sd is right, the only bowl you can really control your own destiny for is the BCS game by winning the league.
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If we win out, we just have to get Cotton Bowl. Have to.
:cry:
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If we win out, we just have to get Cotton Bowl. Have to.
:cry:
If OU loses to OSU they will get it. sorry bro.
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If we win out, we just have to get Cotton Bowl. Have to.
:cry:
If OU loses to OSU they will get it. sorry bro.
Still might get both in the BCS. Might.
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If we win out, we just have to get Cotton Bowl. Have to.
:cry:
If OU loses to OSU they will get it. sorry bro.
Still might get both in the BCS. Might.
sure, but we definitely don't control any of the factors on if they do or not
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Unless K-State does something unconventional (likely multiple turnovers or a complete inability to run the ball) I don't see us losing this game. In fact, I think the win should be somewhat comfortable. I just think we are the better team and match up fairly well, especially given the injury to Michael.
:emawkid:
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If we win out, we just have to get Cotton Bowl. Have to.
:cry:
If OU loses to OSU they will get it. sorry bro.
Still might get both in the BCS. Might.
sure, but we definitely don't control any of the factors on if they do or not
Who are we kidding?
Oh well, I've never seen the River Walk. The Builder's Square could be fun.
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If we win out, we just have to get Cotton Bowl. Have to.
:cry:
If OU loses to OSU they will get it. sorry bro.
If OSU wins out they are in the National Title Game. As long as OU doesn't lose 70-0 to OSU they will get the Fiesta. If we win out we get 3rd and that would be the Cottan.
So yeah, go OSU.
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Last time we beat aTm we we're coming of a loss to Tech....big loss. And we 62-14'd em.
This time we're coming off two (2) losses :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :chainsaw:
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Last time we beat aTm we we're coming of a loss to Tech....big loss. And we 66-14'd em.
This time we're coming off two (2) losses :chainsaw: :chainsaw: :chainsaw:
Cool stat. :cool:
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Cotton Bowl > Alamo Bowl, Dallas < San Antonio :thumbs:
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We are going to TOFPP the eff out of A&M's faces all day.
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#17 KANSAS ST vs TEXAS A&M
............. Rushing Passing Points TO’s
TEXAS A&M 138 320 32 2.8
KANSAS ST 197 160 33 0.8
LAST 14 YEAR MATCHUPS
KSU has won 2 str and in their last game in ‘09 KSU was off a 66-14 loss to TT and came away with a shocking 62-14 win which they led 59-0! TY A&M is on their 2nd str AG and 3rd in 4W after LW’s 41-25 loss at OU in which they were done in by mistakes as they missed FG’s from 38 and 41, had a 14 yd P which set up a 31 yd TD pass, an int which set up a 28 yd TD drive and an int which set up a 39 yd TD pass. Ags’ #1 rusher Michael (899, 6.0) and WR Swope (874, 14.6) were KO’d in the 4Q and Michael is OFY. A&M allows 110 rush ypg (3.0). KSU took advantage of 4 TO’s and traded big play blows with #3 OSU but couldn’t cash it in the EZ on 3 pass plays from the OSU5 with :12 left in a 52-45 loss. Tough guy Klein leads FBS QB’s in rushing (906, 4.4) with more att on the ground than thru the air (136, 58%, 9-4). KSU is #96 pass eff D (303, 66%, 19-14). The Cats are +11 in TO margin while the Ags are -10. This one will be very close but A&M is desperate for a win and has more talent.
PHIL’S FORECAST: TEXAS A&M 35 KANSAS ST 34
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This one will be very close but A&M is desperate for a win and has more talent.
really getting tired of the more talent talking point.
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straight to the bottom
:lynchmob:
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If we win out, we just have to get Cotton Bowl. Have to.
:cry:
If OU loses to OSU they will get it. sorry bro.
Still might get both in the BCS. Might.
sure, but we definitely don't control any of the factors on if they do or not
Let's breakdown the BCS bids. There are a total of ten.
ACC: 1
Big 12: 1
big 10: 1
Big East: 1
Pac 12: 1
SEC: 1
That leaves four at large bids. The SEC will get two BCS teams, so we are down to three. If Boise State is undefeated they will go to a BCS bowl. Down to two. The ACC and Big East are only getting one bid so we can count them out for at-large bids. The loser of this weekend's Oregon/Stanford game will likely get an at-large bid as long as they win out. I really don't see the big 10 getting a second BCS bowl. That leaves us with one at-large bid. The possible teams for this slot will be the loser of the OU/Okie ST game and Houston (if they win out). Sorry, but no BCS bowl is going to pick Houston over the Sooners or Pokes.
If OU and OSU don't get upset between now and Bedlam (meaning the only remaining loss for either team is when they play each other) then they will both go to BCS bowls. The only thing that could take away a second Big 12 BCS bowl (and thus knocking KSU down a slot) would be a second bid going to the big 10. Doubt it happens, but we have a lot of football left to play. Upsets happen and the BCS acts in mysterious ways.
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Shacks is a good name for a rebel bbs'er
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yeah, B12 is likely to get 2, but we don't control our destiny. OU or OSU could also slip at some point outside their game. I mean, it wouldn't blow my mind to see OU drop the game @Baylor or OSU to lose @TTech. I don't see a 2 loss OSU getting in and no way a 3 loss OSU gets in.
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If we win out, we just have to get Cotton Bowl. Have to.
:cry:
If OU loses to OSU they will get it. sorry bro.
Still might get both in the BCS. Might.
sure, but we definitely don't control any of the factors on if they do or not
Let's breakdown the BCS bids. There are a total of ten.
ACC: 1
Big 12: 1
big 10: 1
Big East: 1
Pac 12: 1
SEC: 1
That leaves four at large bids. The SEC will get two BCS teams, so we are down to three. If Boise State is undefeated they will go to a BCS bowl. Down to two. The ACC and Big East are only getting one bid so we can count them out for at-large bids. The loser of this weekend's Oregon/Stanford game will likely get an at-large bid as long as they win out. I really don't see the big 10 getting a second BCS bowl. That leaves us with one at-large bid. The possible teams for this slot will be the loser of the OU/Okie ST game and Houston (if they win out). Sorry, but no BCS bowl is going to pick Houston over the Sooners or Pokes.
If OU and OSU don't get upset between now and Bedlam (meaning the only remaining loss for either team is when they play each other) then they will both go to BCS bowls. The only thing that could take away a second Big 12 BCS bowl (and thus knocking KSU down a slot) would be a second bid going to the big 10. Doubt it happens, but we have a lot of football left to play. Upsets happen and the BCS acts in mysterious ways.
Jesus Christ shacks.... :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:) really? :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
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If we win out, we just have to get Cotton Bowl. Have to.
:cry:
If OU loses to OSU they will get it. sorry bro.
Still might get both in the BCS. Might.
sure, but we definitely don't control any of the factors on if they do or not
Let's breakdown the BCS bids. There are a total of ten.
ACC: 1
Big 12: 1
big 10: 1
Big East: 1
Pac 12: 1
SEC: 1
That leaves four at large bids. The SEC will get two BCS teams, so we are down to three. If Boise State is undefeated they will go to a BCS bowl. Down to two. The ACC and Big East are only getting one bid so we can count them out for at-large bids. The loser of this weekend's Oregon/Stanford game will likely get an at-large bid as long as they win out. I really don't see the big 10 getting a second BCS bowl. That leaves us with one at-large bid. The possible teams for this slot will be the loser of the OU/Okie ST game and Houston (if they win out). Sorry, but no BCS bowl is going to pick Houston over the Sooners or Pokes.
If OU and OSU don't get upset between now and Bedlam (meaning the only remaining loss for either team is when they play each other) then they will both go to BCS bowls. The only thing that could take away a second Big 12 BCS bowl (and thus knocking KSU down a slot) would be a second bid going to the big 10. Doubt it happens, but we have a lot of football left to play. Upsets happen and the BCS acts in mysterious ways.
Jesus Christ shacks.... :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:) really? :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol:)
Really :dubious:
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RISING!
Texas A&M Aggies at Kansas State Wildcats
Texas A&M is favored by 4.5 points
TeamRankings win odds for Kansas State: 47 percent
We've been fading Texas A&M all year and will do so again this week as the demoralized Aggies hit the road for Manhattan to face a Kansas State team that will continue to make its presence felt on the national scene.
The Wildcats are being written off by some as simply a decent team that had a hot start, but LHC Bill Snyder's crew is an ever-improving lot that has played just one bad half of football since the opener. This is a potent team with a powerful offense, respectable defense, playmaking special teams and elite intangibles. Collin Klein and the Cats are a power running team that is throwing the ball better than ever but will move the ball easily by both land and air against a banged up Texas A&M defense that wasn't that good when it was healthy and now must prepare for an entirely different scheme than it has seen the past two weeks.
Last week we warned that an A&M team with little to play for could get blown out in consecutive weeks. This junior-dominated Kansas State outfit is the Big 12's rising power and is more than equipped to finish what the Oklahoma Sooners started last week. The wrong side is favored here, and it won't require the customary second-half collapse for the Aggies to lose this one by double digits.
The pick: Kansas State 52, Texas A&M 24
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where is that from sd?
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Kevin Haskin likes A&M.
:driving:
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where is that from sd?
Will Harris from ESPN. He does picks on ESPN insider. You may also know him as fatty fat fat's mysterious avatar guy.
PREMIUM CONTENT COPY AND PASTED! :ksu:
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where is that from sd?
Will Harris from ESPN. He does picks on ESPN insider. You may also know him as fatty fat fat's mysterious avatar guy.
PREMIUM CONTENT COPY AND PASTED! :ksu:
:emawkid:
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Kansas State 35, Texas A&M 30: The Aggies have fizzled so often in the second halves of games against any decent competition this year, it's hard to expect them to play four good quarters on the road here. A&M is one of the worst teams in the nation in terms of turnover margin while K-State is No. 8.
:lynchmob:
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PREMIUM CONTENT COPY AND PASTED! :ksu:
eff YES, SUCK IT HARD WORKER!!
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RISING!
Texas A&M Aggies at Kansas State Wildcats
Texas A&M is favored by 4.5 points
TeamRankings win odds for Kansas State: 47 percent
We've been fading Texas A&M all year and will do so again this week as the demoralized Aggies hit the road for Manhattan to face a Kansas State team that will continue to make its presence felt on the national scene.
The Wildcats are being written off by some as simply a decent team that had a hot start, but LHC LHC Bill Snyder's crew is an ever-improving lot that has played just one bad half of football since the opener. This is a potent team with a powerful offense, respectable defense, playmaking special teams and elite intangibles. Collin Klein and the Cats are a power running team that is throwing the ball better than ever but will move the ball easily by both land and air against a banged up Texas A&M defense that wasn't that good when it was healthy and now must prepare for an entirely different scheme than it has seen the past two weeks.
Last week we warned that an A&M team with little to play for could get blown out in consecutive weeks. This junior-dominated Kansas State outfit is the Big 12's rising power and is more than equipped to finish what the Oklahoma Sooners started last week. The wrong side is favored here, and it won't require the customary second-half collapse for the Aggies to lose this one by double digits.
The pick: Kansas State 52, Texas A&M 24
My confidense-o-meter is now pegged.
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My confidents nose know bounce.
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this is why we have a football team, to win games like this one.
go cats. team, state, and now more than ever, conference.