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Title: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: kso_FAN on October 26, 2011, 12:15:29 PM
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Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: 0.42 on October 26, 2011, 12:16:44 PM
 :fistpump:
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: The Manhatter on October 26, 2011, 12:23:23 PM
that is beautiful.  I LOL'd when KU had 9 coming to the box off Klein's option fake with Hubert.
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: PurpleSleezyE on October 26, 2011, 12:26:33 PM
_Fan - these breakdowns are better than watching porn and eating strawberry ice cream with your special lady friend. 
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: mcmwcat on October 26, 2011, 12:27:51 PM
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pffft,  ku :facepalm:
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 26, 2011, 12:29:02 PM
Good work.  I hope Klein can make some good throws this week.
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 26, 2011, 12:34:53 PM
glad you mentioned the Lockett mistakes. Thought he could have easily scored on the last play of the 1st half.
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: EllToPay on October 26, 2011, 12:35:44 PM
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pffft,  ku :facepalm:

to the phog!
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: Acceleration Man on October 26, 2011, 12:36:15 PM
I enjoyed that. Thanks!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: mcmwcat on October 26, 2011, 02:06:49 PM
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pffft,  ku :facepalm:

to the phog!

oh crap!  forward pass?  we didn't prepare for this!!!111!!!1
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: Katpappy on October 26, 2011, 09:26:15 PM
_Fan - these breakdowns are better than watching porn and eating strawberry ice cream with your special lady friend. 
So this explains "Please bear in mind that this week, I have lacked sleep, drank way too much mt dew at work, and have failed to properly bang my wife.  By the way, ice cream is not only messy, but very cold and affects the north/south direction of the flesh sword.  Try hot chocolate syrup next time.  :grin:
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: ednksu on October 26, 2011, 11:06:29 PM
good stuff so far _fan, double check your writing though.  In a few places you missedaspace.
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: BEFR on October 27, 2011, 12:41:05 AM
_Fan - these breakdowns are better than watching porn and eating strawberry ice cream with your special lady friend. 

+1
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: kso_FAN on October 27, 2011, 07:34:06 AM
good stuff so far _fan, double check your writing though.  In a few places you missedaspace.

Dang, those goEMAW editors get paid too much to miss that stuff.
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: kougar24 on October 27, 2011, 10:21:22 AM
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pffft,  ku :facepalm:

Harper would have been able to karaoke into the end zone on that play. There was no safety over the top, no KU player within 20 yards of him in any direction at the time Lockett caught the pass.
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: kso_FAN on October 27, 2011, 10:27:45 AM
Harper would have been able to karaoke into the end zone on that play. There was no safety over the top, no KU player within 20 yards of him in any direction at the time Lockett caught the pass.

There was a safety over the top, but he basically had to play both Lockett and Harper on that half of the field. I agree that if the throw is to Harper he likely scores, but if Lockett gets vertical and angles out to Harper (so he can block) he also likely scores.
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: kougar24 on October 27, 2011, 10:48:02 AM
Harper would have been able to karaoke into the end zone on that play. There was no safety over the top, no KU player within 20 yards of him in any direction at the time Lockett caught the pass.

There was a safety over the top, but he basically had to play both Lockett and Harper on that half of the field. I agree that if the throw is to Harper he likely scores, but if Lockett gets vertical and angles out to Harper (so he can block) he also likely scores.

Yeah sorry, wasn't saying the Lockett toss was a bad decision by any means. I just remember seeing the play live, and it looked like the safety on that side of the field cheated over Lockett before the ball was actually thrown or Klein even committed. It amazed me that a simple go route on the boundary could have been that wide open.
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: kso_FAN on October 27, 2011, 10:57:54 AM
Yeah sorry, wasn't saying the Lockett toss was a bad decision by any means. I just remember seeing the play live, and it looked like the safety on that side of the field cheated over Lockett before the ball was actually thrown or Klein even committed. It amazed me that a simple go route on the boundary could have been that wide open.

When defenses load the box with that many people there are only so many coverage possibilities. Plus, an unbalanced formation like we gave them (1 TE and 2 WR to one side and 1 TE to the other) causes even more problems. Throw in down and distance and place on the field (1st and 10, inside our own 30) and KU simply played the tendancy (that we'd likely run) and loaded the box while playing 2 deep safeties over the top (cover 2) in case we did pass. Snyder won the chess game there, though honestly its not hard to do against KU much of the time. The zone read play action pulled any threat KU had with inside backers or their outside safeties (since they play a 4-2-5) to get underneath the route to make it difficult to throw. Just a very well executed play and the success was magnified because we broke a tendancy by passing on 1st and 10 fairly deep in our own territory.
Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: kougar24 on October 27, 2011, 11:04:23 AM
Yeah sorry, wasn't saying the Lockett toss was a bad decision by any means. I just remember seeing the play live, and it looked like the safety on that side of the field cheated over Lockett before the ball was actually thrown or Klein even committed. It amazed me that a simple go route on the boundary could have been that wide open.

When defenses load the box with that many people there are only so many coverage possibilities. Plus, an unbalanced formation like we gave them (1 TE and 2 WR to one side and 1 TE to the other) causes even more problems. Throw in down and distance and place on the field (1st and 10, inside our own 30) and KU simply played the tendancy (that we'd likely run) and loaded the box while playing 2 deep safeties over the top (cover 2) in case we did pass. Snyder won the chess game there, though honestly its not hard to do against KU much of the time. The zone read play action pulled any threat KU had with inside backers or their outside safeties (since they play a 4-2-5) to get underneath the route to make it difficult to throw. Just a very well executed play and the success was magnified because we broke a tendancy by passing on 1st and 10 fairly deep in our own territory.

Just a microcosm of...


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Title: Re: Klein to Lockett Trio
Post by: cvmcat on October 27, 2011, 11:21:00 AM
glad you mentioned the Lockett mistakes. Thought he could have easily scored on the last play of the 1st half.
Most analysts will tell you that if Klein had a "real" throwing motion, Lockett would have scored.  ;)