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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Shacks on October 04, 2011, 09:14:41 PM
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I'm a student at Kansas State and I wasn't a fan until recently so this seems like a good place to ask. During the Baylor game I overheard a black student saying he wanted to be Willie before he graduated. That got me thinking. Has there ever been a black Willie? Seems like they would at least let him tryout so as not to appear :opcat:, but if there's never been one before that kid's odds don't seem too good.
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There was a black Willie on (I believe) the 2004 poster.
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I heard within the last few years the SGA voted to remove some obscure bylaw in some crap or another that somehow made it not possible to have a black willie. Also, I have never heard a black person fantasize about becoming a mascot.
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man. that's a good question shacks. i don't think there has ever been a black willie. i do remember one fball game a while back where regular willie was there for the first half and then some fat left handed willie came out after halftime. so there has been a fat left handed willie for at least one half of a fball game. was the black guy also fat and left handed, because if so i'd say he's got a shot at it at least. :dunno:
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Also, welcome to fandom. It's a beautiful thing full of beautiful things. You will soon wonder how you were ever not a fan.
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I heard within the last few years the SGA voted to remove some obscure bylaw in some crap or another that somehow made it not possible to have a black willie. Also, I have never heard a black person fantasize about becoming a mascot.
Maybe he wants to be K-State's version of Obama :dunno:
man. that's a good question shacks. i don't think there has ever been a black willie. i do remember one fball game a while back where regular willie was there for the first half and then some fat left handed willie came out after halftime. so there has been a fat left handed willie for at least one half of a fball game. was the black guy also fat and left handed, because if so i'd say he's got a shot at it at least. :dunno:
He wasn't fat, don't know if he was lefthanded
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weird thread.
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weird thread.
screw you rams. take it to the phog if you want to get racist. this place doesn't put up w/ that crap.
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Also, welcome to fandom. It's a beautiful thing full of beautiful things. You will soon wonder how you were ever not a fan.
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Thanks. I'm not new to college football, I've been a huge fan of the sport for as long as I can remember. LHC Bill Snyder was one of my favorites before I even moved to Kansas. But I've been die hard EMAW since 2008 :kstatriot:
weird thread.
Weird forum
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I kind of like this thread.
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I've seen darker complected Willie the Wildcats - but nothing farther than Hispanic/Asian/Indian. Could have just been a well tanned Italian.
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Did he throw a shirt is that how you knew he was left handed daris?
man what an odd thing to remember. Go Cats
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Bet it was the lumberjack
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I'm a student at Kansas State and I wasn't a fan until recently so this seems like a good place to ask. During the Baylor game I overheard a black student saying he wanted to be Willie before he graduated. That got me thinking. Has there ever been a black Willie? Seems like they would at least let him tryout so as not to appear :opcat:, but if there's never been one before that kid's odds don't seem too good.
Tell the students to stay for the whole damn game. This tends to piss me off when i see half of it empty. :facepalm:
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I'm a student at Kansas State and I wasn't a fan until recently so this seems like a good place to ask. During the Baylor game I overheard a black student saying he wanted to be Willie before he graduated. That got me thinking. Has there ever been a black Willie? Seems like they would at least let him tryout so as not to appear :opcat:, but if there's never been one before that kid's odds don't seem too good.
Tell the students to stay for the whole damn game. This tends to piss me off when i see half of it empty. :facepalm:
I think a lot of it is students leaving to drink at halftime and then not finding their way back to the stadium, or taking way too long to get back in. I would never do that, but that's my educated guess. If they would let us bring in booze this problem would be greatly alleviated.
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I'm a student at Kansas State and I wasn't a fan until recently so this seems like a good place to ask. During the Baylor game I overheard a black student saying he wanted to be Willie before he graduated. That got me thinking. Has there ever been a black Willie? Seems like they would at least let him tryout so as not to appear :opcat:, but if there's never been one before that kid's odds don't seem too good.
Tell the students to stay for the whole damn game. This tends to piss me off when i see half of it empty. :facepalm:
I think a lot of it is students leaving to drink at halftime and then not finding their way back to the stadium, or taking way too long to get back in. I would never do that, but that's my educated guess. If they would let us bring in booze this problem would be greatly alleviated.
WVU starting selling booze at games this year and made like $400k in the first 2 games...
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I'm a student at Kansas State and I wasn't a fan until recently so this seems like a good place to ask. During the Baylor game I overheard a black student saying he wanted to be Willie before he graduated. That got me thinking. Has there ever been a black Willie? Seems like they would at least let him tryout so as not to appear :opcat:, but if there's never been one before that kid's odds don't seem too good.
Tell the students to stay for the whole damn game. This tends to piss me off when i see half of it empty. :facepalm:
I think a lot of it is students leaving to drink at halftime and then not finding their way back to the stadium, or taking way too long to get back in. I would never do that, but that's my educated guess. If they would let us bring in booze this problem would be greatly alleviated.
Me neither.
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I'm a student at Kansas State and I wasn't a fan until recently so this seems like a good place to ask. During the Baylor game I overheard a black student saying he wanted to be Willie before he graduated. That got me thinking. Has there ever been a black Willie? Seems like they would at least let him tryout so as not to appear :opcat:, but if there's never been one before that kid's odds don't seem too good.
Tell the students to stay for the whole damn game. This tends to piss me off when i see half of it empty. :facepalm:
I think a lot of it is students leaving to drink at halftime and then not finding their way back to the stadium, or taking way too long to get back in. I would never do that, but that's my educated guess. If they would let us bring in booze this problem would be greatly alleviated.
WVU starting selling booze at games this year and made like $400k in the first 2 games...
KSU will never do that, this state has some very backwards and asinine blue laws. Riley County is better than most of Kansas when it comes to stupid alcohol laws, but the entire state is backwards about it.
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I'm a student at Kansas State and I wasn't a fan until recently so this seems like a good place to ask. During the Baylor game I overheard a black student saying he wanted to be Willie before he graduated. That got me thinking. Has there ever been a black Willie? Seems like they would at least let him tryout so as not to appear :opcat:, but if there's never been one before that kid's odds don't seem too good.
he's a cat you dipshit, having him prowl the sidelines would be bad luck for everyone
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Think how much k-state would make if they started selling drugs at the games.
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man. that's a good question shacks. i don't think there has ever been a black willie. i do remember one fball game a while back where regular willie was there for the first half and then some fat left handed willie came out after halftime. so there has been a fat left handed willie for at least one half of a fball game. was the black guy also fat and left handed, because if so i'd say he's got a shot at it at least. :dunno:
I remember that game. We scored upwards of 65 points, and the regular Willie simply could not do that many push-ups after each score. They put in the second string Willie who had much bigger butt.
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Did he throw a shirt is that how you knew he was left handed daris?
man what an odd thing to remember. Go Cats
50 pounds heavier and fist pumped/lead cheers with his left arm non stop style. it was surreal. like original willie got sick or him mom died or something v bad happened and emergency willie had to be called into action.
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Think how much k-state would make if they started selling drugs at the games.
ya and then somehow we could smuggle some unscented stuff into the away teams locker room to make them play like piss! :excited:
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Think how much k-state would make if they started selling drugs at the games.
Would love to get some mushrooms at halftime
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Remember when Notre Dame had a black leprechauan? That was weird. Black willie wouldn't be as weird because Willie represents an animal and not a race.
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Just noticed last game that Willie doesn't have any arms or legs or a tail... What's up with that? :dunno:
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Just noticed last game that Willie doesn't have any arms or legs or a tail... What's up with that? :dunno:
Maybe it was like in the movie "The Fly" with the teleporters.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_2LiwE4cKIkA%2FTL-0Hx2szGI%2FAAAAAAAAAjU%2FKAFN7eCxJkM%2Fs1600%2FFly_2.jpg&hash=ea0c252a8c921bc44b7828785a2e6b55589745c0)
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Did he throw a shirt is that how you knew he was left handed daris?
man what an odd thing to remember. Go Cats
50 pounds heavier and fist pumped/lead cheers with his left arm non stop style. it was surreal. like original willie got sick or him mom died or something v bad happened and emergency willie had to be called into action.
There's 4 Willies (or so) per year.
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Black willie wouldn't be as weird because Willie represents an animal
:sdeek:
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Black willie wouldn't be as weird because Willie represents an animal
:sdeek:
:lol:
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tried to start movement on twitter, but #blackwillie was already taken :sad:
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Black willie wouldn't be as weird because Willie represents an animal
:sdeek:
:lol:
If your mascot is a red headed white guy then you have limited options!
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Oh man I love this thread! Also would love a black willie, but that's because I'm spanish.
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We really need a black Ecokat
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Oh man I love this thread! Also would love a black willie, but that's because I'm spanish.
What does being spanish have anything to do with Willie being black? Wouldn't you like him to have a nice dark tan?
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Oh man I love this thread! Also would love a black willie, but that's because I'm spanish.
What does being spanish have anything to do with Willie being black? Wouldn't you like him to have a nice dark tan?
Hey Lukie! Good question! What I did here was use a figure of speech known as a double entendre--there are two meanings.
1) Would love an African American Willie, I just like change, no real other reason.
2) I implied I would like to have a black's penis because, alas, I am Spanish, and I could be hung like a Tic-tac (will not confirm :dubious:)
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We really need a black Ecokat
BlacoKat? I imagine a black EcoKat looking like Carlton or Urkel.
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We really need a black Ecokat
BlacoKat? I imagine a black EcoKat looking like Carlton or Urkel.
BlackEcoPanther
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Not sure that counted as a double entendre. Also, sounds racist toward frank Martin. Waiting for a daris ruling before i jump to any conclusions.
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Not sure that counted as a double entendre. Also, sounds racist toward frank Martin. Waiting for a daris ruling before i jump to any conclusions.
Pffft, Frank is not Spanish.
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the real question is, who gave that black person the right to openly ask a question around white people.
JK
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I am black Willie. I just get stuck doing events and appearances like this step show last week for the BSU. When I asked to get some field time, the said they were looking for someone a bit headier... Yeah, I dunno. :dunno:
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a spanish emo? welp, i've seen it all now.
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I am black Willie. I just get stuck doing events and appearances like this step show last week for the BSU. When I asked to get some field time, the said they were looking for someone a bit headier... Yeah, I dunno. :dunno:
WTF does "a bit headier" mean? Sounds :opcat:
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did not know spanish was the stereotypical small wee-wee ethnicity :dunno:
'grats emo
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did not know spanish was the stereotypical small wee-wee ethnicity :dunno:
'grats emo
Proud of my heritage. :gocho:
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Found this gem of a thread while looking for the best place to post this info...
Is he "terrifying" because he's black?! Pretty racist, imo. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190416/436375451046b665e2a5781aacdfabd0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190416/4a7eeb844ce4c407e19df1ef9448e58f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190416/05319e3708572a095e7f47afb839369a.jpg)
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Found this gem of a thread while looking for the best place to post this info...
Is he "terrifying" because he's black?! Pretty racist, imo. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190416/436375451046b665e2a5781aacdfabd0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190416/4a7eeb844ce4c407e19df1ef9448e58f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190416/05319e3708572a095e7f47afb839369a.jpg)
Very elite picks for Florida and Kansas
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WuShock breathes a sigh of relief
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Seems as good a thread as any to post an opinion I've held about Willie for quite some time.
Just cover his skin. Like, if it's football Willie, make the dude wear tights/long socks under the pants and cover the arms up with under-armor type undershirt or something and have him wear gloves. If it's basketball, have him wear warmups (or leggings and undershirt) and gloves.
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https://twitter.com/KStateAlumni/status/1177223760908365824
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That's badass. Why isn't modern day Willie riding horses 24/7? What the eff are those out-of-work KSU equestrian horses doing now? (don't you rough ridin' make a glue joke, god damn it).
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BYOH unfortunately
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That's a very small horse
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EPAW?
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That's a very small horse
Maybe that Willie is just enormous?
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CNS Willie
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I have some insight on this. I was a Willie in 2008 and 2009. It was interesting. I was a freshman/sophomore those years. My freshman year there was only 1 returning Willie and I was one of 6 new guys, so there were 7 Willies that year. Sounds like a ton but we did every sporting event: football, M/W bbal, vball, baseball, plus weddings, birthday parties, athletic booster events, open house, enrollment/orientation, etc. So we were all fairly busy.
My first year was a blast. Our "boss" was the marketing branch of the athletic department, and with that we were able to be pretty creative with skits and such. My favorite skit was the first year when Willie beat Micheal Phelps olympic record for golds by winning like 20 different events, it was the home opener vs North Texas, and I was actually the guy tackled at midfield after stealing Willie's medals (the guy the used to get tackled was always another Willie). I think I got a mild concussion from it but it was worth it (glad I don't have a seizure disorder :horrorsurprise:)
The second year we were transferred over to the cheer team and it was not nearly as fun. We had less access to the pregame schedule, skits where cut down, we had to go to cheer practices sometimes, it was a drag. I got cut after 2 years bc I discovered beer/got too fat/dipped out on a lot of stuff the 2nd year to focus on grades and partying. Was a little butt hurt at first but in retrospect I think it was good for me.
On the point of a black Willie, the answer I got a lot when I asked (I don't think any tried out my 2 years) was that there is only 1 Willie, so all the Willie's needed to look similar. I always thought that was dumb/racist, esp since there was a 5'8" guy and a 6'3" guy in the group when I was doing it. But they take that pretty seriously, Willie could never be at two events at the same time.
Anyway if you have any questions about it, I'd be happy to answer.
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I have some insight on this. I was a Willie in 2008 and 2009. It was interesting. I was a freshman/sophomore those years. My freshman year there was only 1 returning Willie and I was one of 6 new guys, so there were 7 Willies that year. Sounds like a ton but we did every sporting event: football, M/W bbal, vball, baseball, plus weddings, birthday parties, athletic booster events, open house, enrollment/orientation, etc. So we were all fairly busy.
My first year was a blast. Our "boss" was the marketing branch of the athletic department, and with that we were able to be pretty creative with skits and such. My favorite skit was the first year when Willie beat Micheal Phelps olympic record for golds by winning like 20 different events, it was the home opener vs North Texas, and I was actually the guy tackled at midfield after stealing Willie's medals (the guy the used to get tackled was always another Willie). I think I got a mild concussion from it but it was worth it (glad I don't have a seizure disorder :horrorsurprise:)
The second year we were transferred over to the cheer team and it was not nearly as fun. We had less access to the pregame schedule, skits where cut down, we had to go to cheer practices sometimes, it was a drag. I got cut after 2 years bc I discovered beer/got too fat/dipped out on a lot of stuff the 2nd year to focus on grades and partying. Was a little butt hurt at first but in retrospect I think it was good for me.
On the point of a black Willie, the answer I got a lot when I asked (I don't think any tried out my 2 years) was that there is only 1 Willie, so all the Willie's needed to look similar. I always thought that was dumb/racist, esp since there was a 5'8" guy and a 6'3" guy in the group when I was doing it. But they take that pretty seriously, Willie could never be at two events at the same time.
Anyway if you have any questions about it, I'd be happy to answer.
Did it ever freak you out that you were sucking in germs from the other 6 dudes that put on the Willie head? I mean I'm sure you could spray it with Lysol or something but that would probably only kill about a tenth of the filth that had to be in there? :Yuck: (ftp://:Yuck:)
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I have some insight on this. I was a Willie in 2008 and 2009. It was interesting. I was a freshman/sophomore those years. My freshman year there was only 1 returning Willie and I was one of 6 new guys, so there were 7 Willies that year. Sounds like a ton but we did every sporting event: football, M/W bbal, vball, baseball, plus weddings, birthday parties, athletic booster events, open house, enrollment/orientation, etc. So we were all fairly busy.
My first year was a blast. Our "boss" was the marketing branch of the athletic department, and with that we were able to be pretty creative with skits and such. My favorite skit was the first year when Willie beat Micheal Phelps olympic record for golds by winning like 20 different events, it was the home opener vs North Texas, and I was actually the guy tackled at midfield after stealing Willie's medals (the guy the used to get tackled was always another Willie). I think I got a mild concussion from it but it was worth it (glad I don't have a seizure disorder :horrorsurprise:)
The second year we were transferred over to the cheer team and it was not nearly as fun. We had less access to the pregame schedule, skits where cut down, we had to go to cheer practices sometimes, it was a drag. I got cut after 2 years bc I discovered beer/got too fat/dipped out on a lot of stuff the 2nd year to focus on grades and partying. Was a little butt hurt at first but in retrospect I think it was good for me.
On the point of a black Willie, the answer I got a lot when I asked (I don't think any tried out my 2 years) was that there is only 1 Willie, so all the Willie's needed to look similar. I always thought that was dumb/racist, esp since there was a 5'8" guy and a 6'3" guy in the group when I was doing it. But they take that pretty seriously, Willie could never be at two events at the same time.
Anyway if you have any questions about it, I'd be happy to answer.
Did it ever freak you out that you were sucking in germs from the other 6 dudes that put on the Willie head? I mean I'm sure you could spray it with Lysol or something but that would probably only kill about a tenth of the filth that had to be in there? :Yuck: (ftp://:Yuck:)
Ya that thing was nasty. It was a hockey helmet with 10lb of foam and felt. Made your neck hurt like crazy after wearing it for hours on end. There was a built in fan that didn't work and just made it heavier.
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I have some insight on this. I was a Willie in 2008 and 2009. It was interesting. I was a freshman/sophomore those years. My freshman year there was only 1 returning Willie and I was one of 6 new guys, so there were 7 Willies that year. Sounds like a ton but we did every sporting event: football, M/W bbal, vball, baseball, plus weddings, birthday parties, athletic booster events, open house, enrollment/orientation, etc. So we were all fairly busy.
My first year was a blast. Our "boss" was the marketing branch of the athletic department, and with that we were able to be pretty creative with skits and such. My favorite skit was the first year when Willie beat Micheal Phelps olympic record for golds by winning like 20 different events, it was the home opener vs North Texas, and I was actually the guy tackled at midfield after stealing Willie's medals (the guy the used to get tackled was always another Willie). I think I got a mild concussion from it but it was worth it (glad I don't have a seizure disorder :horrorsurprise:)
The second year we were transferred over to the cheer team and it was not nearly as fun. We had less access to the pregame schedule, skits where cut down, we had to go to cheer practices sometimes, it was a drag. I got cut after 2 years bc I discovered beer/got too fat/dipped out on a lot of stuff the 2nd year to focus on grades and partying. Was a little butt hurt at first but in retrospect I think it was good for me.
On the point of a black Willie, the answer I got a lot when I asked (I don't think any tried out my 2 years) was that there is only 1 Willie, so all the Willie's needed to look similar. I always thought that was dumb/racist, esp since there was a 5'8" guy and a 6'3" guy in the group when I was doing it. But they take that pretty seriously, Willie could never be at two events at the same time.
Anyway if you have any questions about it, I'd be happy to answer.
Did it ever freak you out that you were sucking in germs from the other 6 dudes that put on the Willie head? I mean I'm sure you could spray it with Lysol or something but that would probably only kill about a tenth of the filth that had to be in there? :Yuck: (ftp://:Yuck:)
Ya that thing was nasty. It was a hockey helmet with 10lb of foam and felt. Made your neck hurt like crazy after wearing it for hours on end. There was a built in fan that didn't work and just made it heavier.
LOL. And we're so proud of our Engineering department. Think that would have been a pretty easy one to figure out
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Have you ever kicked a kid in the face while doing the k-s-u signs?
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Thanks! Also;
1) Was there like a cool Willie initiation were you had to do crazy crap and got hazed by the 'older' Willie's?
2) Please tell me there's a cool Willie handshake that only you guys know.
3) Did you ever pick up a chick (or dude) at one of the events you did? And if so where you able to bang her/him with the Willie head on?
4) Was the loser of the group the one designated to do Women's VB or the stupid parties?
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Have you ever kicked a kid in the face while doing the k-s-u signs?
...and extremely hungover?
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Thanks! Also;
1) Was there like a cool Willie initiation were you had to do crazy crap and got hazed by the 'older' Willie's?
2) Please tell me there's a cool Willie handshake that only you guys know.
3) Did you ever pick up a chick (or dude) at one of the events you did? And if so where you able to bang her/him with the Willie head on?
4) Was the loser of the group the one designated to do Women's VB or the stupid parties?
I have credible info that this has happened.
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the craziest willie thing I've ever seen in my life was during a football game somewhere around i'll guess 1998. the game started with willie who appeared to very normal willie. he did super normal willie stuff at the time and looked super normal doing all of it. then halftime came and the next thing you knew willie was a few inches shorter, seventy pounds heavier and left handed. truly bizarre. did first half willie get sick? arrested at halftime? lost a bet to a roommate and had to let him be willie for half a game? no idea but for one half of a football game, fat left handed willie was quite the site to behold. truly mezmerising.
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How much of the banter when opposing teams mascots is improvised? Like I would imagine you guys would probably shoot a couple emails back and forth about some hilarious gags you were planning or do you guys just go out there and wing it?
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You know what I miss? I miss back in the day when willie and the willie event staff would grab the opposing team’s mascot and ram his nards into the goalpost
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the craziest willie thing I've ever seen in my life was during a football game somewhere around i'll guess 1998. the game started with willie who appeared to very normal willie. he did super normal willie stuff at the time and looked super normal doing all of it. then halftime came and the next thing you knew willie was a few inches shorter, seventy pounds heavier and left handed. truly bizarre. did first half willie get sick? arrested at halftime? lost a bet to a roommate and had to let him be willie for half a game? no idea but for one half of a football game, fat left handed willie was quite the site to behold. truly mezmerising.
The first willie in that game was a friend of mine.
We scored around 70 points that game, and the number of pushups broke him. Had put in the 2nd string willie for the rest of the game.
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Thanks! Also;
1) Was there like a cool Willie initiation were you had to do crazy crap and got hazed by the 'older' Willie's?
2) Please tell me there's a cool Willie handshake that only you guys know.
3) Did you ever pick up a chick (or dude) at one of the events you did? And if so where you able to bang her/him with the Willie head on?
4) Was the loser of the group the one designated to do Women's VB or the stupid parties?
1) no
2) no
3) I got hit on by drunk tailgaiting coeds quite a bit, my butt pinched a bunch. One pretty smoking gal whispered in my ear to meet her at so and so. I was too much of a chicken crap to follow through on any of that.
4) kinda. But sometimes the side gigs where the most fun. Games could get pretty tedious (especially those football years, back to back no bowl). I did get tipped a couple times once at a wedding and once at a varney's photo shoot where they let me keep some merch.
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Have you ever kicked a kid in the face while doing the k-s-u signs?
LOL I think I know who did that
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How much of the banter when opposing teams mascots is improvised? Like I would imagine you guys would probably shoot a couple emails back and forth about some hilarious gags you were planning or do you guys just go out there and wing it?
completely winged it when I did it, didn't even talk to the guy. I took that code of silence crazy strict. Only time things ever backfired was 2008 @ Colorado, before the game I went through the K-State section to pump up the crowd, and there was a CU fan sitting right in the middle. Middle aged dude. I suavely lifted his ballcap, then sat right in front of him with his cap draped over my ear. He immediately shoved the crap out of me and started yelling crap. The K-State fans were all like "HEY THAT'S WILLIE CALM DOWN" and I quickly gave back his hat and non-verbally apologized. Should've figured CU fans are the worst.
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What a dick