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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: bigwilliestyle1407 on September 24, 2011, 06:40:06 PM
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But I think Hubert showed some skills today ...... But seriously how can you be that short and that slow?
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The whiff on the blitz pick up was glorious.
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But I think Hubert showed some skills today ...... But seriously how can you be that short and that slow?
Being short and being fast are not correlated, you just think that because of Sproles.
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The whiff on the blitz pick up was glorious.
Ugh. I couldn't believe how bad that looked. Between that play and him diving headfirst for the sideline (while fumbling) in the EKU game, he just baffles me.
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No, denied.
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The whiff on the blitz pick up was glorious.
Yeah that was horrible. Him not looking back on the check down route and killing our momentium was equally as shitty.... What sucks the worse is you know he is talented, but he is eff'in himself big time...... When he gets on the field he's gotta show up bigger then that weak crap.
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Hubert is pretty damn slow.
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But I think Hubert showed some skills today ...... But seriously how can you be that short and that slow?
Being short and being fast are not correlated, you just think that because of Sproles.
Brandon Banks, hell most lil short guys can motor but Hubert had two open field runs and got caught from behind both times..... Hell although not short D.Thomas would have scored on one of those runs.....
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The whiff on the blitz pick up was glorious.
Yeah that was horrible. Him not looking back on the check down route and killing our momentium was equally as shitty.... What sucks the worse is you know he is talented, but he is eff'in himself big time...... When he gets on the field he's gotta show up bigger then that weak crap.
he was carrying out a play fake.. it's harder to adjust and make a block if you really try and sell the fake. i saw a similar whiff by an nfl rb last week. but granted, it would have been nice if he could have gotten even a hand on him.
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The whiff on the blitz pick up was glorious.
Yeah that was horrible. Him not looking back on the check down route and killing our momentium was equally as shitty.... What sucks the worse is you know he is talented, but he is eff'in himself big time...... When he gets on the field he's gotta show up bigger then that weak crap.
he was carrying out a play fake.. it's harder to adjust and make a block if you really try and sell the fake. i saw a similar whiff by an nfl rb last week. but granted, it would have been nice if he could have gotten even a hand on him.
He's coached to break off the fake to protect the QB if necessary, just shows he's not paying attention, not a good excuse.
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But I think Hubert showed some skills today ...... But seriously how can you be that short and that slow?
Being short and being fast are not correlated, you just think that because of Sproles.
Brandon Banks, hell most lil short guys can motor but Hubert had two open field runs and got caught from behind both times..... Hell although not short D.Thomas would have scored on one of those runs.....
That's because short guys have little value unless they are fast. It doesn't mean they're correlated. Granted, if a short person is playing college football or NFL, it's probably because they offer speed. Hubert has other skills to offer.
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The whiff on the blitz pick up was glorious.
Yeah that was horrible. Him not looking back on the check down route and killing our momentium was equally as shitty.... What sucks the worse is you know he is talented, but he is eff'in himself big time...... When he gets on the field he's gotta show up bigger then that weak crap.
he was carrying out a play fake.. it's harder to adjust and make a block if you really try and sell the fake. i saw a similar whiff by an nfl rb last week. but granted, it would have been nice if he could have gotten even a hand on him.
No that was a flat out terrible whif. You don't carry out the play fake anymore when you have to pick someone up. Thus why he came out right afterwards.
They do need to just give him the ball. Can you imagine him in that zone read or the sweep around the corner?
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I'll be on B Brown's team all year. Hubert is OK tho.
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The whiff on the blitz pick up was glorious.
Yeah that was horrible. Him not looking back on the check down route and killing our momentium was equally as shitty.... What sucks the worse is you know he is talented, but he is eff'in himself big time...... When he gets on the field he's gotta show up bigger then that weak crap.
he was carrying out a play fake.. it's harder to adjust and make a block if you really try and sell the fake. i saw a similar whiff by an nfl rb last week. but granted, it would have been nice if he could have gotten even a hand on him.
No that was a flat out terrible whif. You don't carry out the play fake anymore when you have to pick someone up. Thus why he came out right afterwards.
They do need to just give him the ball. Can you imagine him in that zone read or the sweep around the corner?
still want bryce. tards.
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Slow ass Hubert could only manage 166 on 18 carries...9.2 yard average. Bryce is clearly the superior player at this point. that fact that he isn't getting more chances screams of racism.
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The whiff on the blitz pick up was glorious.
Yeah that was horrible. Him not looking back on the check down route and killing our momentium was equally as shitty.... What sucks the worse is you know he is talented, but he is eff'in himself big time...... When he gets on the field he's gotta show up bigger then that weak crap.
he was carrying out a play fake.. it's harder to adjust and make a block if you really try and sell the fake. i saw a similar whiff by an nfl rb last week. but granted, it would have been nice if he could have gotten even a hand on him.
No that was a flat out terrible whif. You don't carry out the play fake anymore when you have to pick someone up. Thus why he came out right afterwards.
They do need to just give him the ball. Can you imagine him in that zone read or the sweep around the corner?
still want bryce. tards.
I want bryce too..
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Slow ass Hubert could only manage 166 on 18 carries...9.2 yard average. Bryce is clearly the superior player at this point. that fact that he isn't getting more chances screams of racism.
He had a great gam no doubt, but if he had moderate to good speed he would have had three t.d's and 200 plus yards....
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The only times I noticed Bryce in the game were the times he was rough ridin' up and costing us 10 yards.
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lol @ people who thought bryce would be good. lol more @ people who still do.
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Slow ass Hubert could only manage 166 on 18 carries...9.2 yard average. Bryce is clearly the superior player at this point. that fact that he isn't getting more chances screams of racism.
Whaty are you saying; one's black and one's "my niggra"? :horrorsurprise:
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Slow ass Hubert could only manage 166 on 18 carries...9.2 yard average. Bryce is clearly the superior player at this point. that fact that he isn't getting more chances screams of racism.
He had a great gam no doubt, but if he had moderate to good speed he would have had three t.d's and 200 plus yards....
great argument. bryce got in, totally whiffed on a block and we did nothing when he was in (granted we didn't give him the ball). i still want bryce to be in and was pisssed he wasn't playing in the first half. my guess is he's not playing because he doesn't care about blocking, and we need that from every position. i mean brod and harp came all the way back here just to block, totally emaw. bryce hasn't shown any emaw. still want him to play. just my jmo
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lol @ people who thought bryce would be good. lol more @ people who still do.
Coachs' Chinese Philosophy- "Lazy effing bastard who sits on ass during Summer, sits on bench in Fall." :gocho:
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lol @ people who thought bryce would be good. lol more @ people who still do.
I know. 4.5 ypc in the weak ass SEC. Gmafb.
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lol @ people who thought bryce would be good. lol more @ people who still do.
I know. 4.5 ypc in the weak ass SEC. Gmafb.
Looks like he rushed for a whopping 211 yards against the SEC in 2009.
http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2009-2010/indgbg.html
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Hubert did good enough to get us the win, Bryce would've accounted for at least 2 more TDs
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He's got to be a better option than using Rose in the red-zone especially since we didn't bounce it outside w/ him when he was in.
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Bill does not make mistakes.
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a) Bryce Brown is our most talented running back.
b) Its hard to know how good or what he's really good at because when he is in he seems to make mistakes fairly often. Too often.
c) Hubert does what he's asked to do well, and you have to respect that. I wasn't completely sold on him, but tonight he was very good outside a fumble. I could care less that he wasn't fast enough to outrun Miami's secondary a couple of times; he ran the ball hard, got vertical into creases, and made plays consistently tonight. That's really all I can ask for from a back; he gave us what we needed to compliment Klein and we got a nice win.
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the only thing i saw B. Brown do was have a horrible missed block that caused Klein to get sacked.... :facepalm:
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a) Bryce Brown is our most talented running back.
b) Its hard to know how good or what he's really good at because when he is in he seems to make mistakes fairly often. Too often.
c) Hubert does what he's asked to do well, and you have to respect that. I wasn't completely sold on him, but tonight he was very good outside a fumble. I could care less that he wasn't fast enough to outrun Miami's secondary a couple of times; he ran the ball hard, got vertical into creases, and made plays consistently tonight. That's really all I can ask for from a back; he gave us what we needed to compliment Klein and we got a nice win.
FAN is the of the few who has very good FBIQ. :thumbsup:
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a) Bryce Brown is our most talented running back.
b) Its hard to know how good or what he's really good at because when he is in he seems to make mistakes fairly often. Too often.
c) Hubert does what he's asked to do well, and you have to respect that. I wasn't completely sold on him, but tonight he was very good outside a fumble. I could care less that he wasn't fast enough to outrun Miami's secondary a couple of times; he ran the ball hard, got vertical into creases, and made plays consistently tonight. That's really all I can ask for from a back; he gave us what we needed to compliment Klein and we got a nice win.
I agree with all of this. I would disagree with the guy on the first page that said DThomas would have made those runs into touchdowns he is big and shifty and all but I bet he would've produced similarly to Hubert against that speed
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a) Bryce Brown is our most talented running back.
b) Its hard to know how good or what he's really good at because when he is in he seems to make mistakes fairly often. Too often.
c) Hubert does what he's asked to do well, and you have to respect that. I wasn't completely sold on him, but tonight he was very good outside a fumble. I could care less that he wasn't fast enough to outrun Miami's secondary a couple of times; he ran the ball hard, got vertical into creases, and made plays consistently tonight. That's really all I can ask for from a back; he gave us what we needed to compliment Klein and we got a nice win.
Here's what this reminds me of . . .
a) Marvin Simmons (talented linebacker instead of runningback)
b) Marvin Simmons
c) There's players that do things right to help us win and then there's Marvin Simmons
I think the fact is that Bryce is a headcase has everyone messed up in K-State Nation. Until he gets his crap together, dude shouldn't see the field, except on scout team.
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Here's what this reminds me of . . .
a) Marvin Simmons (talented linebacker instead of runningback)
b) Marvin Simmons
c) There's players that do things right to help us win and then there's Marvin Simmons
I think the fact is that Bryce is a headcase has everyone messed up in K-State Nation. Until he gets his crap together, dude shouldn't see the field, except on scout team.
FWIW, I don't think he's Marvin Simmons. Hard to find a comparison, but I'd probably say Daniel Davis is closer.
I do not advocate giving up on him either. If he's doing the things he needs to do off the field and in practice, give him opportunities, but he deserves no special treatment based on talent and potential.
I do think he'll be a good player for K-State eventually, maybe a great one.
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I agree with everyone here. It unbearably sad to find out that Bryce Brown is a horrible football player.
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I never said I was giving up on him, but he needs to strap it on. If not he'll be the next "Best that Never Was" on ESPN 30 for 30.
FWIW, Marvin Simmons was a freak LB out of HS from a family lineage of NFL players. Was a headcase at K-State and didn't amount to much. The comparison is there.
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I agree with everyone here. It unbearably sad to find out that Bryce Brown is a horrible football player.
Incredibly sad because we know he has so much more potential than all of our other backs put together. Hubert is doing great for his abilities, but I think we all saw his max potential in this game. You can't teach the combination of speed and size that B. Brown has.
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I never said I was giving up on him, but he needs to strap it on. If not he'll be the next "Best that Never Was" on ESPN 30 for 30.
FWIW, Marvin Simmons was a freak LB out of HS from a family lineage of NFL players. Was a headcase at K-State and didn't amount to much. The comparison is there.
The "Best that never was" had to do some great things in college to even get that designation. Bryce has a lot of work to do to even get to that point.
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I agree with everyone here. It unbearably sad to find out that Bryce Brown is a horrible football player.
Incredibly sad because we know he has so much more potential than all of our other backs put together. Hubert is doing great for his abilities, but I think we all saw his max potential in this game. You can't teach the combination of speed and size that B. Brown has.
Hubert scored his first college TD today. He averaged 9.2 ypc on 18 carries AT THE U. He's still the guy that broke LT's records. Can't see how anyone can conclude that this is his "max potential."
And if this is his "max potential," then his "max potential" is pretty damn good.
Will take.
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Snyder deserves blame for Bryce's play/motivation/mistakes/whatever.
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both browns are major headcases. arthur plays. bryce just sucks. sorry. it happens.
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How about Robert Rose time on the goal line? The eff was that Bill?
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How about Robert Rose time on the goal line? The eff was that Bill?
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I was pissed at this as well, then read that Pease was out with a concussion.
I would have gone with completely transparent Kleiny Coff Keaper before attempting to run Rose in there with the game on the line.
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I never said I was giving up on him, but he needs to strap it on. If not he'll be the next "Best that Never Was" on ESPN 30 for 30.
FWIW, Marvin Simmons was a freak LB out of HS from a family lineage of NFL players. Was a headcase at K-State and didn't amount to much. The comparison is there.
Marvin's other issue was that he was one of, if not the most, intellectually challenged people I ran into at K-State.
I don't want to know what we did to help him stay eligible. It had to have been pretty bad from an NCAA perspective.
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How about Robert Rose time on the goal line? The eff was that Bill?
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I was pissed at this as well, then read that Pease was out with a concussion.
I would have gone with completely transparent Kleiny Coff Keaper before attempting to run Rose in there with the game on the line.
Speaking of oldballz I'm worried these two are senile lmao
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Bryce obviously doesn't have it together for pass protection. So maybe they should have handed the ball to him and let him do what he does best instead of have him do what he does worst.
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c) Hubert does what he's asked to do well, and you have to respect that. I wasn't completely sold on him, but tonight he was very good outside a fumble. I could care less that he wasn't fast enough to outrun Miami's secondary a couple of times; he ran the ball hard, got vertical into creases, and made plays consistently tonight. That's really all I can ask for from a back; he gave us what we needed to compliment Klein and we got a nice win.
Yes. Hubert doesn't have great top-end speed, but he does have nice acceleration. He was able to blow past Miami's linebackers on those long runs, and the secondary caught him because they're fast and they took the right angles, which is something we're not used to seeing around here for the last couple of years.
If he's still starting when we play KU, he'll probably have 3 40+ yard touchdown runs.
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lol @ people who thought bryce would be good. lol more @ people who still do.
Coachs' Chinese Philosophy- "Lazy effing bastard who sits on ass during Summer, sits on bench in Fall." :gocho:
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160 yards against Miami. Good for John.
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The only two plays I remember Bryce being in the game were the one where he whiffed on a block, allowing a sack, and the one where he didn't even look for a check down pass. Maybe if Bryce would play better when he gets on the field, he would play more.
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:runaway:
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The only two plays I remember Bryce being in the game were the one where he whiffed on a block, allowing a sack, and the one where he didn't even look for a check down pass. Maybe if Bryce would play better when he gets on the field, he would play more.
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