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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: kim carnes on August 12, 2011, 08:23:51 PM
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:love: What a rough ridin' stud!
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They are slobbering all over "the Golden boy from Kansas State"
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"the most mature 23 year old I have ever met" - some bitch who works for Fox
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If team Wefald/Weiser would have hired Raheem, they'd have looked like geniuses.
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If team Wefald/Weiser would have hired Raheem, they'd have looked like geniuses.
to be fair to Ron, Raheem was the assistant to the assistant DB coach in Tampa, a true DITR.
Too bad he quickly grew to hate RP
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Ron takes a ton of crap but his actual results were 2nd go around snyder'esque. Had he been white he would be looked at much differently by our stupid fanbase.
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I look at his tenure as I look at Bill's second. Both need to go.
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Next P. Manning
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Ron takes a ton of crap but his actual results were 2nd go around snyder'esque. Had he been white he would be looked at much differently by our stupid fanbase.
Ron competed with Bill's recruits, peaked early. Bill competed with Ron's recruits and had an average first 2 years. I look for there to be big strides in the next couple of years. If Bill can't pull us back out, then no one can.
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Ron takes a ton of crap but his actual results were 2nd go around snyder'esque. Had he been white he would be looked at much differently by our stupid fanbase.
Ron competed with Bill's recruits, peaked early. Bill competed with Ron's recruits and had an average first 2 years. I look for there to be big strides in the next couple of years. If Bill can't pull us back out, then no one can.
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Ron takes a ton of crap but his actual results were 2nd go around snyder'esque. Had he been white he would be looked at much differently by our stupid fanbase.
Ron competed with Bill's recruits, peaked early. Bill competed with Ron's recruits and had an average first 2 years. I look for there to be big strides in the next couple of years. If Bill can't pull us back out, then no one can.
You are full of surprises Luke-KSU.
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If team Wefald/Weiser would have hired Raheem, they'd have looked like geniuses.
to be fair to Ron, Raheem was the assistant to the assistant DB coach in Tampa, a true DITR.
Too bad he quickly grew to hate RP
He was the assistant DB coach, not the assistant to the assistant DB coach. JFC, how many assistant coaches do you think NFL teams have?
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We definitely have to hire our next coach out of the Ron Prince tree. Nobody else can win here. I say we pursue Wallerstedt.
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We definitely have to hire our next coach out of the Ron Prince tree. Nobody else can win here I say we pursue Wallerstadt.
I say we try and pluck Freemaw from the Bucs. Would be a fantastic hire.
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Ron takes a ton of crap but his actual results were 2nd go around snyder'esque. Had he been white he would be looked at much differently by our stupid fanbase.
Regardless of anything concerning Snyder (he certainly was not the answer to replace Ron), almost everything Ron gets he deserves. I will even say he did a decent job his first year, but his last two years were a complete trainwreck. The fact that he had a QB who became a NFL star in his 2nd year, yet couldn't coach his team to a bowl game in his last two seasons deserves everything negative people say about him and more.
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We definitely have to hire our next coach out of the Ron Prince tree. Nobody else can win here I say we pursue Wallerstadt.
I say we try and pluck Freemaw from the Bucs. Would be a fantastic hire.
Ron Prince knew how to hire coaches. Just imagine a coach who not only was hired by Prince, but was able to land a wife hot enough for Ron Prince to take to bed. Just imagine that.
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Prince's original assistants were BA but they quickly dropped after that. And lets not ignore the sudden drop in talent under Ronny. Remember Dold and Lamark being startings RBs? Now we have BB, Hubert, Pease, Demac, Rose, etc...
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
Sometimes thinking Ron Prince was mostly clueless as a football coach has nothing to do with Snyder, nor is it an endorsement for Snyder. JMHO.
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Ron takes a ton of crap but his actual results were 2nd go around snyder'esque. Had he been white he would be looked at much differently by our stupid fanbase.
Regardless of anything concerning Snyder (he certainly was not the answer to replace Ron), almost everything Ron gets he deserves. I will even say he did a decent job his first year, but his last two years were a complete trainwreck. The fact that he had a QB who became a NFL star in his 2nd year, yet couldn't coach his team to a bowl game in his last two seasons deserves everything negative people say about him and more.
agree.
also, this year with bill, we are looking like we should be a bowl team. that wouldn't be the case w/ ron, so the whole rp v obz debate isn't really one for people being honest. i would actually be ok w/ the bill hiring if he was doing what he said he was doing which was calming the waters. coach until we can grab a great replacement like leach or rich rod and then go quietly into the wind and we could love him forever. that isn't happening though. i want it to work out so bad. i wanted prince to work out so bad too though. same things with wools and every other ksu coach ever. it's frustrating and there are a million things that bill is doing that are just so god damn frustrating. idk.
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Ron takes a ton of crap but his actual results were 2nd go around snyder'esque. Had he been white he would be looked at much differently by our stupid fanbase.
Regardless of anything concerning Snyder (he certainly was not the answer to replace Ron), almost everything Ron gets he deserves. I will even say he did a decent job his first year, but his last two years were a complete trainwreck. The fact that he had a QB who became a NFL star in his 2nd year, yet couldn't coach his team to a bowl game in his last two seasons deserves everything negative people say about him and more.
agree.
also, this year with bill, we are looking like we should be a bowl team. that wouldn't be the case w/ ron, so the whole rp v obz debate isn't really one for people being honest. i would actually be ok w/ the bill hiring if he was doing what he said he was doing which was calming the waters. coach until we can grab a great replacement like leach or rich rod and then go quietly into the wind and we could love him forever. that isn't happening though. i want it to work out so bad. i wanted prince to work out so bad too though. same things with wools and every other ksu coach ever. it's frustrating and there are a million things that bill is doing that are just so god damn frustrating. idk.
Ron Prince = Tom Asbury when it comes to how I remember him as a coach at K-State. I won't necessarily remember Snyder as well as I might have if things finish as badly as they could in his 2nd tenure, but I'll never view him like Asbury or Prince.
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Ron takes a ton of crap but his actual results were 2nd go around snyder'esque. Had he been white he would be looked at much differently by our stupid fanbase.
Regardless of anything concerning Snyder (he certainly was not the answer to replace Ron), almost everything Ron gets he deserves. I will even say he did a decent job his first year, but his last two years were a complete trainwreck. The fact that he had a QB who became a NFL star in his 2nd year, yet couldn't coach his team to a bowl game in his last two seasons deserves everything negative people say about him and more.
agree.
also, this year with bill, we are looking like we should be a bowl team. that wouldn't be the case w/ ron, so the whole rp v obz debate isn't really one for people being honest. i would actually be ok w/ the bill hiring if he was doing what he said he was doing which was calming the waters. coach until we can grab a great replacement like leach or rich rod and then go quietly into the wind and we could love him forever. that isn't happening though. i want it to work out so bad. i wanted prince to work out so bad too though. same things with wools and every other ksu coach ever. it's frustrating and there are a million things that bill is doing that are just so god damn frustrating. idk.
Ron Prince = Tom Asbury when it comes to how I remember him as a coach at K-State. I won't necessarily remember Snyder as well as I might have if things finish as badly as they could in his 2nd tenure, but I'll never view him like Asbury or Prince.
oh god. he's def no asbury or prince.
i'm mad at bill because we could've had patterson. i'm mad at him because we could have leach. i dislike snyder right now for those things, plus the whole sean as coach and tate gets a scholly and i won't fire cosh and i can't attract and keep recruiters and coaches and let them just recruit and coach because i'd rather have them sit at their desks and play solitaire all day, etc.
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Ron takes a ton of crap but his actual results were 2nd go around snyder'esque. Had he been white he would be looked at much differently by our stupid fanbase.
Regardless of anything concerning Snyder (he certainly was not the answer to replace Ron), almost everything Ron gets he deserves. I will even say he did a decent job his first year, but his last two years were a complete trainwreck. The fact that he had a QB who became a NFL star in his 2nd year, yet couldn't coach his team to a bowl game in his last two seasons deserves everything negative people say about him and more.
also, this year with bill, we are looking like we should be a bowl team. that wouldn't be the case w/ ron, so the whole rp v obz debate isn't really one for people being honest. i would actually be ok w/ the bill hiring if he was doing what he said he was doing which was calming the waters. coach until we can grab a great replacement like leach or rich rod and then go quietly into the wind and we could love him forever. that isn't happening though. i want it to work out so bad. i wanted prince to work out so bad too though. same things with wools and every other ksu coach ever. it's frustrating and there are a million things that bill is doing that are just so god damn frustrating. idk.
Ron Prince = Tom Asbury when it comes to how I remember him as a coach at K-State. I won't necessarily remember Snyder as well as I might have if things finish as badly as they could in his 2nd tenure, but I'll never view him like Asbury or Prince.
Snyder's overall tenure looks similar to Hartman's, though Snyder inherited a train-wreck,and his final few seasons probably won't be as bad as Hartman's. Both will be beloved forever and deservedly so. Hopefully Bill does "calm the waters" with a couple 7/8 win seasons and set up the talent for some hotshot to come in and take over. A hot shot who is chosen by superstar ADJC and megastar UPKS.
K-State 2025 ---> NABF and Meat Goat fame/$$$$, Manhattan pop. over 100k, KSU enrollment up to 30-35k and some baller head coach heading into his 12th year of splendid football.
agree.
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
Sometimes thinking Ron Prince was mostly clueless as a football coach has nothing to do with Snyder, nor is it an endorsement for Snyder. JMHO.
Yeah, I agree that RP sucking and OBz being a disaster now have no relation to each other.
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
Sometimes thinking Ron Prince was mostly clueless as a football coach has nothing to do with Snyder, nor is it an endorsement for Snyder. JMHO.
Yeah, I agree that RP sucking and OBz being a disaster now have no relation to each other.
Ig I'm pretty new here, why do u guys think OBz is a disaster? It doesn't make any since to me at all.
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Ron takes a ton of crap but his actual results were 2nd go around snyder'esque. Had he been white he would be looked at much differently by our stupid fanbase.
Freeman being an NFL star is an indictment of RP's performance. Not a reflection of it.
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
Sometimes thinking Ron Prince was mostly clueless as a football coach has nothing to do with Snyder, nor is it an endorsement for Snyder. JMHO.
Yeah, I agree that RP sucking and OBz being a disaster now have no relation to each other.
Ig I'm pretty new here, why do u guys think OBz is a disaster? It doesn't make any since to me at all.
Mods, move this last part to the KSTATEOs ask EMAWs.... thread.
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
Sometimes thinking Ron Prince was mostly clueless as a football coach has nothing to do with Snyder, nor is it an endorsement for Snyder. JMHO.
Yeah, I agree that RP sucking and OBz being a disaster now have no relation to each other.
Ig I'm pretty new here, why do u guys think OBz is a disaster? It doesn't make any since to me at all.
It's pretty obvious now isn't it luke? I mean, you surely remember Bills first tenure - when he had assistants that were successful at everything they did. I'm sure you've heard of the famous LHC Bill Snyder tree of coaches. I mean, that's the reason you like LHC Bill Snyder - am I right? "He's the only one that will be successful at KSU" you say. Well, that sounds like loser talk to me, Luke. LHC Bill Snyder is not a God. Do I love him for what he did for KSU? Of course. But the coaching tree is dead, Luke. It's Dead. There's not a single coach on this current staff that could even be a head coach of a High school. Surely you can see that. This isn't by chance of course. Bill knows good talent & he knows good coaches. Bill not wanting to be successful isn't the problem. It's the very nature of the situation that is the problem. Look at it this way Luke. You're a coach, and as a coach, you know that job security is hard to find. Most coaches move every 4-6 years. If you were a hot commodity and you were good at what you did, would you take a job with an organization that will be firing all of the coaches & starting fresh in 1-3 years - as soon as "the waters were calmed" ? You would know that as soon as you did your job well, meaning you were winning & the waters were calmed, you would be out of a job. You wouldn't do that Luke; because you're a smart kid. So where we're at now is Limbo, Luke. You know what Limbo is, right? Of course you do, We already covered how smart you are. We're not going anywhere Luke, we're just waiting for a chance at a SLTH, which is a Solid long term hire, but you already knew that with that big ol' brain of yours. Well Luke, surely you can admit that Manhattan Kansas is a much different place than it was in 1988. I mean, we have facilities, we have a tradition - no matter how short it is, it's still a tradition. We have a small amount of recognition as a proud football school. No matter how little it might be, it's still light years ahead of where we were in '88. KSU is no longer futility U. Bill played a major role in that, and I for one am grateful. But you know what I don't like Luke? I don't like letting my 90 year old grandfather take the drivers wheel while my kids are in the back-seat. I love my grandfather and I know he was capable of driving my kids around maybe 5-10 years ago, but there's those little signs that make me think he might pull out in front of a rough ridin' semi Luke. Can you imagine the lifeless bodies being turned into jello puddles & possibly hearing that last rasping breath as blood fills their lungs as they slowly drown in their own fluids? I sure don't want to hear that sound Luke. Not again. Well Luke, Bill can still drive this van & he can still tell when that light is red & certainly never confuses his break peddle for his gas peddle. But he's been driving for 16 god damn miles with his left blinker on 5 under the speed limit in the right lane. I'm not worried about him killing us, yet. But I sure as hell would rather someone else drive my kids around. And there are A LOT of coaches out there that are not only capable of driving, but are begging to. You know what I mean Luke?
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omg :lol:
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It's pretty obvious now isn't it luke? I mean, you surely remember Bills first tenure - when he had assistants that were successful at everything they did. I'm sure you've heard of the famous LHC Bill Snyder tree of coaches. I mean, that's the reason you like LHC Bill Snyder - am I right? "He's the only one that will be successful at KSU" you say. Well, that sounds like loser talk to me, Luke. LHC Bill Snyder is not a God. Do I love him for what he did for KSU? Of course. But the coaching tree is dead, Luke. It's Dead. There's not a single coach on this current staff that could even be a head coach of a High school. Surely you can see that. This isn't by chance of course. Bill knows good talent & he knows good coaches. Bill not wanting to be successful isn't the problem. It's the very nature of the situation that is the problem. Look at it this way Luke. You're a coach, and as a coach, you know that job security is hard to find. Most coaches move every 4-6 years. If you were a hot commodity and you were good at what you did, would you take a job with an organization that will be firing all of the coaches & starting fresh in 1-3 years - as soon as "the waters were calmed" ? You would know that as soon as you did your job well, meaning you were winning & the waters were calmed, you would be out of a job. You wouldn't do that Luke; because you're a smart kid. So where we're at now is Limbo, Luke. You know what Limbo is, right? Of course you do, We already covered how smart you are. We're not going anywhere Luke, we're just waiting for a chance at a SLTH, which is a Solid long term hire, but you already knew that with that big ol' brain of yours. Well Luke, surely you can admit that Manhattan Kansas is a much different place than it was in 1988. I mean, we have facilities, we have a tradition - no matter how short it is, it's still a tradition. We have a small amount of recognition as a proud football school. No matter how little it might be, it's still light years ahead of where we were in '88. KSU is no longer futility U. Bill played a major role in that, and I for one am grateful. But you know what I don't like Luke? I don't like letting my 90 year old grandfather take the drivers wheel while my kids are in the back-seat. I love my grandfather and I know he was capable of driving my kids around maybe 5-10 years ago, but there's those little signs that make me think he might pull out in front of a effing semi Luke. Can you imagine the lifeless bodies being turned into jello puddles & possibly hearing that last rasping breath as blood fills their lungs as they slowly drown in their own fluids? I sure don't want to hear that sound Luke. Not again. Well Luke, Bill can still drive this van & he can still tell when that light is red & certainly never confuses his break peddle for his gas peddle. But he's been driving for 16 god damn miles with his left blinker on 5 under the speed limit in the right lane. I'm not worried about him killing us, yet. But I sure as hell would rather someone else drive my kids around. And there are A LOT of coaches out there that are not only capable of driving, but are begging to. You know what I mean Luke?
Well done.
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
Sometimes thinking Ron Prince was mostly clueless as a football coach has nothing to do with Snyder, nor is it an endorsement for Snyder. JMHO.
Yeah, I agree that RP sucking and OBz being a disaster now have no relation to each other.
Ig I'm pretty new here, why do u guys think OBz is a disaster? It doesn't make any since to me at all.
It's pretty obvious now isn't it luke? I mean, you surely remember Bills first tenure - when he had assistants that were successful at everything they did. I'm sure you've heard of the famous LHC Bill Snyder tree of coaches. I mean, that's the reason you like LHC Bill Snyder - am I right? "He's the only one that will be successful at KSU" you say. Well, that sounds like loser talk to me, Luke. LHC Bill Snyder is not a God. Do I love him for what he did for KSU? Of course. But the coaching tree is dead, Luke. It's Dead. There's not a single coach on this current staff that could even be a head coach of a High school. Surely you can see that. This isn't by chance of course. Bill knows good talent & he knows good coaches. Bill not wanting to be successful isn't the problem. It's the very nature of the situation that is the problem. Look at it this way Luke. You're a coach, and as a coach, you know that job security is hard to find. Most coaches move every 4-6 years. If you were a hot commodity and you were good at what you did, would you take a job with an organization that will be firing all of the coaches & starting fresh in 1-3 years - as soon as "the waters were calmed" ? You would know that as soon as you did your job well, meaning you were winning & the waters were calmed, you would be out of a job. You wouldn't do that Luke; because you're a smart kid. So where we're at now is Limbo, Luke. You know what Limbo is, right? Of course you do, We already covered how smart you are. We're not going anywhere Luke, we're just waiting for a chance at a SLTH, which is a Solid long term hire, but you already knew that with that big ol' brain of yours. Well Luke, surely you can admit that Manhattan Kansas is a much different place than it was in 1988. I mean, we have facilities, we have a tradition - no matter how short it is, it's still a tradition. We have a small amount of recognition as a proud football school. No matter how little it might be, it's still light years ahead of where we were in '88. KSU is no longer futility U. Bill played a major role in that, and I for one am grateful. But you know what I don't like Luke? I don't like letting my 90 year old grandfather take the drivers wheel while my kids are in the back-seat. I love my grandfather and I know he was capable of driving my kids around maybe 5-10 years ago, but there's those little signs that make me think he might pull out in front of a effing semi Luke. Can you imagine the lifeless bodies being turned into jello puddles & possibly hearing that last rasping breath as blood fills their lungs as they slowly drown in their own fluids? I sure don't want to hear that sound Luke. Not again. Well Luke, Bill can still drive this van & he can still tell when that light is red & certainly never confuses his break peddle for his gas peddle. But he's been driving for 16 god damn miles with his left blinker on 5 under the speed limit in the right lane. I'm not worried about him killing us, yet. But I sure as hell would rather someone else drive my kids around. And there are A LOT of coaches out there that are not only capable of driving, but are begging to. You know what I mean Luke?
i think dimel could probably be a high school head coach.
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i think dimel could probably be a high school head coach.
Certainly some over the top things there; Dimel and Dickey are both very solid coaches.
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Dickey would excel at MHS
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They certainly aren't stoops brothers, or Venzy, or Mangino, or.... well.... you get the point.
Go Grandpa Go! :driving:
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I wish Ron wouldn't have tried to eff Raheem's wife :frown:
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Hell, I wish Snyder would of named Bret Bielema HCIW.
When I think about this I still :facepalm: :drink: :drink: :drink: :facepalm: :drink: :barf:
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It's pretty obvious now isn't it luke? I mean, you surely remember Bills first tenure - when he had assistants that were successful at everything they did. I'm sure you've heard of the famous LHC Bill Snyder tree of coaches. I mean, that's the reason you like LHC Bill Snyder - am I right? "He's the only one that will be successful at KSU" you say. Well, that sounds like loser talk to me, Luke. LHC Bill Snyder is not a God. Do I love him for what he did for KSU? Of course. But the coaching tree is dead, Luke. It's Dead. There's not a single coach on this current staff that could even be a head coach of a High school. Surely you can see that. This isn't by chance of course. Bill knows good talent & he knows good coaches. Bill not wanting to be successful isn't the problem. It's the very nature of the situation that is the problem. Look at it this way Luke. You're a coach, and as a coach, you know that job security is hard to find. Most coaches move every 4-6 years. If you were a hot commodity and you were good at what you did, would you take a job with an organization that will be firing all of the coaches & starting fresh in 1-3 years - as soon as "the waters were calmed" ? You would know that as soon as you did your job well, meaning you were winning & the waters were calmed, you would be out of a job. You wouldn't do that Luke; because you're a smart kid. So where we're at now is Limbo, Luke. You know what Limbo is, right? Of course you do, We already covered how smart you are. We're not going anywhere Luke, we're just waiting for a chance at a SLTH, which is a Solid long term hire, but you already knew that with that big ol' brain of yours. Well Luke, surely you can admit that Manhattan Kansas is a much different place than it was in 1988. I mean, we have facilities, we have a tradition - no matter how short it is, it's still a tradition. We have a small amount of recognition as a proud football school. No matter how little it might be, it's still light years ahead of where we were in '88. KSU is no longer futility U. Bill played a major role in that, and I for one am grateful. But you know what I don't like Luke? I don't like letting my 90 year old grandfather take the drivers wheel while my kids are in the back-seat. I love my grandfather and I know he was capable of driving my kids around maybe 5-10 years ago, but there's those little signs that make me think he might pull out in front of a rough ridin' semi Luke. Can you imagine the lifeless bodies being turned into jello puddles & possibly hearing that last rasping breath as blood fills their lungs as they slowly drown in their own fluids? I sure don't want to hear that sound Luke. Not again. Well Luke, Bill can still drive this van & he can still tell when that light is red & certainly never confuses his break peddle for his gas peddle. But he's been driving for 16 god damn miles with his left blinker on 5 under the speed limit in the right lane. I'm not worried about him killing us, yet. But I sure as hell would rather someone else drive my kids around. And there are A LOT of coaches out there that are not only capable of driving, but are begging to. You know what I mean Luke?
oh my :thumbs:
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
Sometimes thinking Ron Prince was mostly clueless as a football coach has nothing to do with Snyder, nor is it an endorsement for Snyder. JMHO.
Yeah, I agree that RP sucking and OBz being a disaster now have no relation to each other.
Ig I'm pretty new here, why do u guys think OBz is a disaster? It doesn't make any since to me at all.
It's pretty obvious now isn't it luke? I mean, you surely remember Bills first tenure - when he had assistants that were successful at everything they did. I'm sure you've heard of the famous LHC Bill Snyder tree of coaches. I mean, that's the reason you like LHC Bill Snyder - am I right? "He's the only one that will be successful at KSU" you say. Well, that sounds like loser talk to me, Luke. LHC Bill Snyder is not a God. Do I love him for what he did for KSU? Of course. But the coaching tree is dead, Luke. It's Dead. There's not a single coach on this current staff that could even be a head coach of a High school. Surely you can see that. This isn't by chance of course. Bill knows good talent & he knows good coaches. Bill not wanting to be successful isn't the problem. It's the very nature of the situation that is the problem. Look at it this way Luke. You're a coach, and as a coach, you know that job security is hard to find. Most coaches move every 4-6 years. If you were a hot commodity and you were good at what you did, would you take a job with an organization that will be firing all of the coaches & starting fresh in 1-3 years - as soon as "the waters were calmed" ? You would know that as soon as you did your job well, meaning you were winning & the waters were calmed, you would be out of a job. You wouldn't do that Luke; because you're a smart kid. So where we're at now is Limbo, Luke. You know what Limbo is, right? Of course you do, We already covered how smart you are. We're not going anywhere Luke, we're just waiting for a chance at a SLTH, which is a Solid long term hire, but you already knew that with that big ol' brain of yours. Well Luke, surely you can admit that Manhattan Kansas is a much different place than it was in 1988. I mean, we have facilities, we have a tradition - no matter how short it is, it's still a tradition. We have a small amount of recognition as a proud football school. No matter how little it might be, it's still light years ahead of where we were in '88. KSU is no longer futility U. Bill played a major role in that, and I for one am grateful. But you know what I don't like Luke? I don't like letting my 90 year old grandfather take the drivers wheel while my kids are in the back-seat. I love my grandfather and I know he was capable of driving my kids around maybe 5-10 years ago, but there's those little signs that make me think he might pull out in front of a rough ridin' semi Luke. Can you imagine the lifeless bodies being turned into jello puddles & possibly hearing that last rasping breath as blood fills their lungs as they slowly drown in their own fluids? I sure don't want to hear that sound Luke. Not again. Well Luke, Bill can still drive this van & he can still tell when that light is red & certainly never confuses his break peddle for his gas peddle. But he's been driving for 16 god damn miles with his left blinker on 5 under the speed limit in the right lane. I'm not worried about him killing us, yet. But I sure as hell would rather someone else drive my kids around. And there are A LOT of coaches out there that are not only capable of driving, but are begging to. You know what I mean Luke?
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But he's been driving for 16 god damn miles with his left blinker on 5 under the speed limit in the right lane. I'm not worried about him killing us, yet.
lost it hard here.
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
Sometimes thinking Ron Prince was mostly clueless as a football coach has nothing to do with Snyder, nor is it an endorsement for Snyder. JMHO.
Yeah, I agree that RP sucking and OBz being a disaster now have no relation to each other.
Ig I'm pretty new here, why do u guys think OBz is a disaster? It doesn't make any since to me at all.
It's pretty obvious now isn't it luke? I mean, you surely remember Bills first tenure - when he had assistants that were successful at everything they did. I'm sure you've heard of the famous LHC Bill Snyder tree of coaches. I mean, that's the reason you like LHC Bill Snyder - am I right? "He's the only one that will be successful at KSU" you say. Well, that sounds like loser talk to me, Luke. LHC Bill Snyder is not a God. Do I love him for what he did for KSU? Of course. But the coaching tree is dead, Luke. It's Dead. There's not a single coach on this current staff that could even be a head coach of a High school. Surely you can see that. This isn't by chance of course. Bill knows good talent & he knows good coaches. Bill not wanting to be successful isn't the problem. It's the very nature of the situation that is the problem. Look at it this way Luke. You're a coach, and as a coach, you know that job security is hard to find. Most coaches move every 4-6 years. If you were a hot commodity and you were good at what you did, would you take a job with an organization that will be firing all of the coaches & starting fresh in 1-3 years - as soon as "the waters were calmed" ? You would know that as soon as you did your job well, meaning you were winning & the waters were calmed, you would be out of a job. You wouldn't do that Luke; because you're a smart kid. So where we're at now is Limbo, Luke. You know what Limbo is, right? Of course you do, We already covered how smart you are. We're not going anywhere Luke, we're just waiting for a chance at a SLTH, which is a Solid long term hire, but you already knew that with that big ol' brain of yours. Well Luke, surely you can admit that Manhattan Kansas is a much different place than it was in 1988. I mean, we have facilities, we have a tradition - no matter how short it is, it's still a tradition. We have a small amount of recognition as a proud football school. No matter how little it might be, it's still light years ahead of where we were in '88. KSU is no longer futility U. Bill played a major role in that, and I for one am grateful. But you know what I don't like Luke? I don't like letting my 90 year old grandfather take the drivers wheel while my kids are in the back-seat. I love my grandfather and I know he was capable of driving my kids around maybe 5-10 years ago, but there's those little signs that make me think he might pull out in front of a rough ridin' semi Luke. Can you imagine the lifeless bodies being turned into jello puddles & possibly hearing that last rasping breath as blood fills their lungs as they slowly drown in their own fluids? I sure don't want to hear that sound Luke. Not again. Well Luke, Bill can still drive this van & he can still tell when that light is red & certainly never confuses his break peddle for his gas peddle. But he's been driving for 16 god damn miles with his left blinker on 5 under the speed limit in the right lane. I'm not worried about him killing us, yet. But I sure as hell would rather someone else drive my kids around. And there are A LOT of coaches out there that are not only capable of driving, but are begging to. You know what I mean Luke?
i am glad that you are here at goEMAW.com.
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
Sometimes thinking Ron Prince was mostly clueless as a football coach has nothing to do with Snyder, nor is it an endorsement for Snyder. JMHO.
Yeah, I agree that RP sucking and OBz being a disaster now have no relation to each other.
Ig I'm pretty new here, why do u guys think OBz is a disaster? It doesn't make any since to me at all.
It's pretty obvious now isn't it luke? I mean, you surely remember Bills first tenure - when he had assistants that were successful at everything they did. I'm sure you've heard of the famous LHC Bill Snyder tree of coaches. I mean, that's the reason you like LHC Bill Snyder - am I right? "He's the only one that will be successful at KSU" you say. Well, that sounds like loser talk to me, Luke. LHC Bill Snyder is not a God. Do I love him for what he did for KSU? Of course. But the coaching tree is dead, Luke. It's Dead. There's not a single coach on this current staff that could even be a head coach of a High school. Surely you can see that. This isn't by chance of course. Bill knows good talent & he knows good coaches. Bill not wanting to be successful isn't the problem. It's the very nature of the situation that is the problem. Look at it this way Luke. You're a coach, and as a coach, you know that job security is hard to find. Most coaches move every 4-6 years. If you were a hot commodity and you were good at what you did, would you take a job with an organization that will be firing all of the coaches & starting fresh in 1-3 years - as soon as "the waters were calmed" ? You would know that as soon as you did your job well, meaning you were winning & the waters were calmed, you would be out of a job. You wouldn't do that Luke; because you're a smart kid. So where we're at now is Limbo, Luke. You know what Limbo is, right? Of course you do, We already covered how smart you are. We're not going anywhere Luke, we're just waiting for a chance at a SLTH, which is a Solid long term hire, but you already knew that with that big ol' brain of yours. Well Luke, surely you can admit that Manhattan Kansas is a much different place than it was in 1988. I mean, we have facilities, we have a tradition - no matter how short it is, it's still a tradition. We have a small amount of recognition as a proud football school. No matter how little it might be, it's still light years ahead of where we were in '88. KSU is no longer futility U. Bill played a major role in that, and I for one am grateful. But you know what I don't like Luke? I don't like letting my 90 year old grandfather take the drivers wheel while my kids are in the back-seat. I love my grandfather and I know he was capable of driving my kids around maybe 5-10 years ago, but there's those little signs that make me think he might pull out in front of a effing semi Luke. Can you imagine the lifeless bodies being turned into jello puddles & possibly hearing that last rasping breath as blood fills their lungs as they slowly drown in their own fluids? I sure don't want to hear that sound Luke. Not again. Well Luke, Bill can still drive this van & he can still tell when that light is red & certainly never confuses his break peddle for his gas peddle. But he's been driving for 16 god damn miles with his left blinker on 5 under the speed limit in the right lane. I'm not worried about him killing us, yet. But I sure as hell would rather someone else drive my kids around. And there are A LOT of coaches out there that are not only capable of driving, but are begging to. You know what I mean Luke?
ok...cool dude. I agree, our coach needsjob security and we do need to find a good long term hire, it's important. When I said, "If Bill can't pull us out of this no one can." Well, all i was saying is I have ultimate confidence in him to "calm the waters". I don't expect him to be here long term, i never did.
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Nothing like an RP vs. OBz debate.
Sometimes thinking Ron Prince was mostly clueless as a football coach has nothing to do with Snyder, nor is it an endorsement for Snyder. JMHO.
Yeah, I agree that RP sucking and OBz being a disaster now have no relation to each other.
Ig I'm pretty new here, why do u guys think OBz is a disaster? It doesn't make any since to me at all.
It's pretty obvious now isn't it luke? I mean, you surely remember Bills first tenure - when he had assistants that were successful at everything they did. I'm sure you've heard of the famous LHC Bill Snyder tree of coaches. I mean, that's the reason you like LHC Bill Snyder - am I right? "He's the only one that will be successful at KSU" you say. Well, that sounds like loser talk to me, Luke. LHC Bill Snyder is not a God. Do I love him for what he did for KSU? Of course. But the coaching tree is dead, Luke. It's Dead. There's not a single coach on this current staff that could even be a head coach of a High school. Surely you can see that. This isn't by chance of course. Bill knows good talent & he knows good coaches. Bill not wanting to be successful isn't the problem. It's the very nature of the situation that is the problem. Look at it this way Luke. You're a coach, and as a coach, you know that job security is hard to find. Most coaches move every 4-6 years. If you were a hot commodity and you were good at what you did, would you take a job with an organization that will be firing all of the coaches & starting fresh in 1-3 years - as soon as "the waters were calmed" ? You would know that as soon as you did your job well, meaning you were winning & the waters were calmed, you would be out of a job. You wouldn't do that Luke; because you're a smart kid. So where we're at now is Limbo, Luke. You know what Limbo is, right? Of course you do, We already covered how smart you are. We're not going anywhere Luke, we're just waiting for a chance at a SLTH, which is a Solid long term hire, but you already knew that with that big ol' brain of yours. Well Luke, surely you can admit that Manhattan Kansas is a much different place than it was in 1988. I mean, we have facilities, we have a tradition - no matter how short it is, it's still a tradition. We have a small amount of recognition as a proud football school. No matter how little it might be, it's still light years ahead of where we were in '88. KSU is no longer futility U. Bill played a major role in that, and I for one am grateful. But you know what I don't like Luke? I don't like letting my 90 year old grandfather take the drivers wheel while my kids are in the back-seat. I love my grandfather and I know he was capable of driving my kids around maybe 5-10 years ago, but there's those little signs that make me think he might pull out in front of a effing semi Luke. Can you imagine the lifeless bodies being turned into jello puddles & possibly hearing that last rasping breath as blood fills their lungs as they slowly drown in their own fluids? I sure don't want to hear that sound Luke. Not again. Well Luke, Bill can still drive this van & he can still tell when that light is red & certainly never confuses his break peddle for his gas peddle. But he's been driving for 16 god damn miles with his left blinker on 5 under the speed limit in the right lane. I'm not worried about him killing us, yet. But I sure as hell would rather someone else drive my kids around. And there are A LOT of coaches out there that are not only capable of driving, but are begging to. You know what I mean Luke?
ok...cool dude. I agree, our coach needsjob security and we do need to find a good long term hire, it's important. When I said, "If Bill can't pull us out of this no one can." Well, all i was saying is I have ultimate confidence in him to "calm the waters". I don't expect him to be here long term, i never did.
Every year Ol' Bill is here is another step to long term, he is on 3 years that is half way to the six year tier of being long term. Anyone who actually reads what I post knows I love Ol' Bill but he has put the players here now for another coach to step in and be able to recruit the players we need to be succesful and still go out on a winning season. It's too late now but after this season he should step down and find another run first midwesterner to take over. I still believe that type of coach needs to be here for us to be succesful and his punter son is not the answer.
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omg, Heinz. :love:
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lol @ reading that long post. there can't be anything new in there.
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lol @ reading that long post. there can't be anything new in there.
Nothing new, but really well put. A bit of a shame that went so long before someone acknowledged it
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lol @ reading that long post. there can't be anything new in there.
the end is worth it.
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I read every line.
Fantastic.
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lol @ reading that long post. there can't be anything new in there.
the end is worth it.
Yes. Amazing.
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Bill is here until Tate graduates/transfers. It's a fact.
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:flush: This thread was supposed to be about what a stud Josh is and you guys rough ridin' ruined it.
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Drafting Freeman #1 QB in my fantasy draft... :ksu:
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Drafting Freeman #1 QB in my fantasy draft... :ksu:
Where are you taking Jordy and Sproles? :ohno:
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Drafting Freeman #1 QB in my fantasy draft... :ksu:
Where are you taking Jordy and Sproles? :ohno:
Unless he's just in a draft with a bunch of retards, he's not going to get all of those guys. They are all first rounders. He's just going to have to draft well and hope that some dumbass is willing to trade them away.
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Does anyone know if Freeman has got to 1000 girls yet? His idea of making a bronzed penis trophy was interesting. I know this was a big goal of his in college! I wish him the best of luck in his pursuit...
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Glad we got back to Freems.
Guys, it was great to be in the company suite at the game and to :excited: and :emawkid: and :ksu: when Freems walzted in for that touchdown. We are so blessed, ya know?
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Drafting Freeman #1 QB in my fantasy draft... :ksu:
Where are you taking Jordy and Sproles? :ohno:
Unless he's just in a draft with a bunch of retards, he's not going to get all of those guys. They are all first rounders. He's just going to have to draft well and hope that some dumbass is willing to trade them away.
Actually none of them are first rounders. Freeman can probably be drafted as late as the 4th or 5th is some leagues... no one is going to go out of their way to make him their #1 back, except for EMAWers! Jordy... a solid #2 WR, probably 3rd or 4th round, and Sproles is somewhere around the same.. a great flex option IMO. It is definitely possible to have all these guys on one team, as none of them are fantasy studs (at this point).
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Drafting Freeman #1 QB in my fantasy draft... :ksu:
Where are you taking Jordy and Sproles? :ohno:
Unless he's just in a draft with a bunch of retards, he's not going to get all of those guys. They are all first rounders. He's just going to have to draft well and hope that some dumbass is willing to trade them away.
Actually none of them are first rounders. Freeman can probably be drafted as late as the 4th or 5th is some leagues... no one is going to go out of their way to make him their #1 back, except for EMAWers! Jordy... a solid #2 WR, probably 3rd or 4th round, and Sproles is somewhere around the same.. a great flex option IMO. It is definitely possible to have all these guys on one team, as none of them are fantasy studs (at this point).
:dubious:
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Drafting Freeman #1 QB in my fantasy draft... :ksu:
Where are you taking Jordy and Sproles? :ohno:
Unless he's just in a draft with a bunch of retards, he's not going to get all of those guys. They are all first rounders. He's just going to have to draft well and hope that some dumbass is willing to trade them away.
Actually none of them are first rounders. Freeman can probably be drafted as late as the 4th or 5th is some leagues... no one is going to go out of their way to make him their #1 back, except for EMAWers! Jordy... a solid #2 WR, probably 3rd or 4th round, and Sproles is somewhere around the same.. a great flex option IMO. It is definitely possible to have all these guys on one team, as none of them are fantasy studs (at this point).
OMG, you can be in my fantasy league any day. Easy money.
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Drafting Freeman #1 QB in my fantasy draft... :ksu:
Where are you taking Jordy and Sproles? :ohno:
Unless he's just in a draft with a bunch of retards, he's not going to get all of those guys. They are all first rounders. He's just going to have to draft well and hope that some dumbass is willing to trade them away.
Actually none of them are first rounders. Freeman can probably be drafted as late as the 4th or 5th is some leagues... no one is going to go out of their way to make him their #1 back, except for EMAWers! Jordy... a solid #2 WR, probably 3rd or 4th round, and Sproles is somewhere around the same.. a great flex option IMO. It is definitely possible to have all these guys on one team, as none of them are fantasy studs (at this point).
hah, squawk outed
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Drafting Freeman #1 QB in my fantasy draft... :ksu:
Where are you taking Jordy and Sproles? :ohno:
Unless he's just in a draft with a bunch of respects, he's not going to get all of those guys. They are all first rounders. He's just going to have to draft well and hope that some dumbass is willing to trade them away.
Actually none of them are first rounders. Freeman can probably be drafted as late as the 4th or 5th is some leagues... no one is going to go out of their way to make him their #1 back, except for EMAWers! Jordy... a solid #2 WR, probably 3rd or 4th round, and Sproles is somewhere around the same.. a great flex option IMO. It is definitely possible to have all these guys on one team, as none of them are fantasy studs (at this point).
hah, squawk outed
You guys are fantasy morons, I'd laugh as I took all your money. Clearly, anyone worth his salt is taking Daniel Thomas in the first round. DT Baby!!!!!
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Drafting Freeman #1 QB in my fantasy draft... :ksu:
Where are you taking Jordy and Sproles? :ohno:
Unless he's just in a draft with a bunch of respects, he's not going to get all of those guys. They are all first rounders. He's just going to have to draft well and hope that some dumbass is willing to trade them away.
Actually none of them are first rounders. Freeman can probably be drafted as late as the 4th or 5th is some leagues... no one is going to go out of their way to make him their #1 back, except for EMAWers! Jordy... a solid #2 WR, probably 3rd or 4th round, and Sproles is somewhere around the same.. a great flex option IMO. It is definitely possible to have all these guys on one team, as none of them are fantasy studs (at this point).
hah, squawk outed
You guys are fantasy morons, I'd laugh as I took all your money. Clearly, anyone worth his salt is taking Daniel Thomas in the first round. DT Baby!!!!!
Only if you have the first pick though. Getting DT will be pure luck, nothing more.
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We might as well rename this the Freemaw master thread.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AtXvWVlm_T03RfvekigVX4BDubYF?slug=jc-cole_buccaneers_josh_freeman_092211
“It’s like my man Ron Prince said, ‘Do your best to play within the system for 3 ½ quarters, but if you’re behind at that point, it’s time to play the superhero role and do what you have to do,’” Freeman said, referring to his coach at Kansas State.
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We might as well rename this the Freemaw master thread.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AtXvWVlm_T03RfvekigVX4BDubYF?slug=jc-cole_buccaneers_josh_freeman_092211
“It’s like my man Ron Prince said, ‘Do your best to play within the system for 3 ½ quarters, but if you’re behind at that point, it’s time to play the superhero role and do what you have to do,’” Freeman said, referring to his coach at Kansas State.
I bet Ron molested him.
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We might as well rename this the Freemaw master thread.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AtXvWVlm_T03RfvekigVX4BDubYF?slug=jc-cole_buccaneers_josh_freeman_092211
“It’s like my man Ron Prince said, ‘Do your best to play within the system for 3 ½ quarters, but if you’re behind at that point, it’s time to play the superhero role and do what you have to do,’” Freeman said, referring to his coach at Kansas State.
:lol:
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http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9510979/bill-barnwell-breaks-josh-freeman-chances-having-bounce-back-year
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We might as well rename this the Freemaw master thread.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AtXvWVlm_T03RfvekigVX4BDubYF?slug=jc-cole_buccaneers_josh_freeman_092211
“It’s like my man Ron Prince said, ‘Do your best to play within the system for 3 ½ quarters, but if you’re behind at that point, it’s time to play the superhero role and do what you have to do,’” Freeman said, referring to his coach at Kansas State.
:lol:
lol forgot about this