I love how this thread has 4 posts, but the field diatribe has lasted for about 15 pages... Jezuscrist. :shakesfist:
:kstategrad:
It's the official number . . . and while I agree with Pete, the price tag for wins has gone through the roof.
It's the official number . . . and while I agree with Pete, the price tag for wins has gone through the roof.
I'd like to see the numbers backing this up. I had seen that smaller schools are really struggling to field teams and even taking $500k from us would be enough to buy Sinbad a new helmet or Kathy Ireland a new kicking tee.
That being said, I also understand the demand for these rummies is going up too and if we are in a bidding war with Texas to host NDSU that we will lose to their sexy money and cowboy hats.
It's the official number . . . and while I agree with Pete, the price tag for wins has gone through the roof.
I'd like to see the numbers backing this up. I had seen that smaller schools are really struggling to field teams and even taking $500k from us would be enough to buy Sinbad a new helmet or Kathy Ireland a new kicking tee.
That being said, I also understand the demand for these rummies is going up too and if we are in a bidding war with Texas to host NDSU that we will lose to their sexy money and cowboy hats.
It's the official number . . . and while I agree with Pete, the price tag for wins has gone through the roof.
I'd like to see the numbers backing this up. I had seen that smaller schools are really struggling to field teams and even taking $500k from us would be enough to buy Sinbad a new helmet or Kathy Ireland a new kicking tee.
That being said, I also understand the demand for these rummies is going up too and if we are in a bidding war with Texas to host NDSU that we will lose to their sexy money and cowboy hats.
Getting teams to come here for 1 and done can cost us over $1M per game. Guaranteed games are getting crazy expensive.
It's the official number . . . and while I agree with Pete, the price tag for wins has gone through the roof.
It's the official number . . . and while I agree with Pete, the price tag for wins has gone through the roof.
Scheduling 1 FCS and 2 FBS teams come to BSFS every year is still quite affordable.
It's the official number . . . and while I agree with Pete, the price tag for wins has gone through the roof.
Scheduling 1 FCS and 2 FBS teams come to BSFS every year is still quite affordable.
Only if you get two home games and one roady with the FBS teams, though.
It's the official number . . . and while I agree with Pete, the price tag for wins has gone through the roof.
Scheduling 1 FCS and 2 FBS teams come to BSFS every year is still quite affordable.
Only if you get two home games and one roady with the FBS teams, though.
It can be done without ever playing a road game. It will mean less profit on those three games overall, but it can still be done and the AD will still make money on those three games.
It's the official number . . . and while I agree with Pete, the price tag for wins has gone through the roof.
Scheduling 1 FCS and 2 FBS teams come to BSFS every year is still quite affordable.
Only if you get two home games and one roady with the FBS teams, though.
It can be done without ever playing a road game. It will mean less profit on those three games overall, but it can still be done and the AD will still make money on those three games.
I would rather use the money saved on facilities upgrades, though. If we can't win a road game against a crapty Sun Belt team, odds are we aren't going to be winning 3 Big 12 games anyway.
Only ~$20 million more until you're as rich as KU.
:kstategrad:
Only ~$20 million more until you're as rich as KU.
:kstategrad:
ku needed every dime of the student fees and direct support from the school to avoid finishing the 2009-2010 school year over $2.5 million in the red. WEF was $4 million in the red.
Only ~$20 million more until you're as rich as KU.
:kstategrad:
ku needed every dime of the student fees and direct support from the school to avoid finishing the 2009-2010 school year over $2.5 million in the red. WEF was $4 million in the red.
How does that change the fact that KU's athletic budget is roughly $20 million more than K-State's?
Only ~$20 million more until you're as rich as KU.
:kstategrad:
ku needed every dime of the student fees and direct support from the school to avoid finishing the 2009-2010 school year over $2.5 million in the red. WEF was $4 million in the red.
How does that change the fact that KU's athletic budget is roughly $20 million more than K-State's?
Only ~$20 million more until you're as rich as KU.
:kstategrad:
ku needed every dime of the student fees and direct support from the school to avoid finishing the 2009-2010 school year over $2.5 million in the red. WEF was $4 million in the red.
How does that change the fact that KU's athletic budget is roughly $20 million more than K-State's?
You idiots are really not getting much for your money.
Only ~$20 million more until you're as rich as KU.
:kstategrad:
ku needed every dime of the student fees and direct support from the school to avoid finishing the 2009-2010 school year over $2.5 million in the red. WEF was $4 million in the red.
How does that change the fact that KU's athletic budget is roughly $20 million more than K-State's?
You idiots are really not getting much for your money.
It doesn't, but you seem to forget (like you always do) that over the last 3 years, ku's athletic revenues have plummeted, and now if it weren't for a significant influx of direct support from the school and student fees, they would be operating at a loss.
Yet another free fall for ku.
It's called a recession.
It doesn't, but you seem to forget (like you always do) that over the last 3 years, ku's athletic revenues have plummeted, and now if it weren't for a significant influx of direct support from the school and student fees, they would be operating at a loss.
Yet another free fall for ku.
It's called a recession.
Mean while KSU's ath budget has increased record amts.
Yeah, that's what has caused the situation at ku, a "recession".
From 2008, to the worst athletic program in the Big 12 3 years later . . . yet another free fall for ku.
Yeah, that's what has caused the situation at ku, a "recession".
From 2008, to the worst athletic program in the Big 12 3 years later . . . yet another free fall for ku.
Worst athletic program in the Big 12? How many other Big 12 athletic programs have seven straight Big 12 titles (in one of the two main revenue sports)? How many Big 12 trophies did K-State add to the trophy case last year?
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Fans like Ben are the reason they have the worst athletic dept in the conf.
Only ~$20 million more until you're as rich as KU.
:kstategrad:
ku needed every dime of the student fees and direct support from the school to avoid finishing the 2009-2010 school year over $2.5 million in the red. WEF was $4 million in the red.
How does that change the fact that KU's athletic budget is roughly $20 million more than K-State's?
Fans like Ben are the reason they have the worst athletic dept in the conf.
How many Big 12 titles did K-State win last year? It's a simple question.
None.
But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.
The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball.
If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".
None.
But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.
The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball.
If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".
I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports: football and basketball.
:ck:
None.
But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.
The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball.
If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".
I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports: football and basketball.
:ck:
Your ath budget cares about much more. not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.
None.
But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.
The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball.
If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".
I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports: football and basketball.
:ck:
Your ath budget cares about much more. not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.
Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.
None.
But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.
The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball.
If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".
I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports: football and basketball.
:ck:
Your ath budget cares about much more. not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.
Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.
That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic
None.
But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.
The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball.
If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".
I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports: football and basketball.
:ck:
Your ath budget cares about much more. not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.
Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.
That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic
Do you understand the difference between an athletic department's budget and an athletic department's profit?
None.
But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.
The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball.
If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".
I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports: football and basketball.
:ck:
Your ath budget cares about much more. not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.
Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.
That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic
Do you understand the difference between an athletic department's budget and an athletic department's profit?
So you have a higher budget, make less profit, and can turn out one decent program? High five. :facepalm:
None.
But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.
The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball.
If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".
I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports: football and basketball.
:ck:
Your ath budget cares about much more. not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.
Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.
That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic
Do you understand the difference between an athletic department's budget and an athletic department's profit?
So you have a higher budget, make less profit, and can turn out one decent program? High five. :facepalm:
KU's basketball program is elite. The football program just won a BCS Bowl a few years ago. The baseball/softball programs have a Big 12 title in the last few years. We've got a golfer on the PGA Tour. Multiple olympic athletes in track. What does K-State have? A mediocre football program with a head coach that's about to die?
JFC you are embarrassingNone.
But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.
The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball.
If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".
I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports: football and basketball.
:ck:
Your ath budget cares about much more. not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.
Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.
That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic
Do you understand the difference between an athletic department's budget and an athletic department's profit?
So you have a higher budget, make less profit, and can turn out one decent program? High five. :facepalm:
KU's basketball program is elite. The football program just won a BCS Bowl a few years ago. The baseball/softball programs have a Big 12 title in the last few years. We've got a golfer on the PGA Tour. Multiple olympic athletes in track. What does K-State have? A mediocre football program with a head coach that's about to die?
JFC you are embarrassingNone.
But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.
The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball.
If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".
I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports: football and basketball.
:ck:
Your ath budget cares about much more. not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.
Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.
That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic
Do you understand the difference between an athletic department's budget and an athletic department's profit?
So you have a higher budget, make less profit, and can turn out one decent program? High five. :facepalm:
KU's basketball program is elite. The football program just won a BCS Bowl a few years ago. The baseball/softball programs have a Big 12 title in the last few years. We've got a golfer on the PGA Tour. Multiple olympic athletes in track. What does K-State have? A mediocre football program with a head coach that's about to die?
KU's basketball program is elite. The football program just won a BCS Bowl a few years ago. The baseball/softball programs have a Big 12 title in the last few years. We've got a golfer on the PGA Tour. Multiple olympic athletes in track. What does K-State have? A mediocre football program with a head coach that's about to die?JFC you are embarrassing
KU's basketball program is elite. The football program just won a BCS Bowl a few years ago. The baseball/softball programs have a Big 12 title in the last few years. We've got a golfer on the PGA Tour. Multiple olympic athletes in track. What does K-State have? A mediocre football program with a head coach that's about to die?
....and getting richer. (http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/a1/article_ffad50ca-aee4-5432-86ab-1d4910c483dc.html)Take a bow, MHK.
http://www.forbes.com/places/ks/manhattan/
....and getting richer. (http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/a1/article_ffad50ca-aee4-5432-86ab-1d4910c483dc.html)Take a bow, MHK.
http://www.forbes.com/places/ks/manhattan/
Metro population - 127K??? Does that include Junction City and Salina?
....and getting richer. (http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/a1/article_ffad50ca-aee4-5432-86ab-1d4910c483dc.html)Take a bow, MHK.
http://www.forbes.com/places/ks/manhattan/
Metro population - 127K??? Does that include Junction City and Salina?
....and getting richer. (http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/a1/article_ffad50ca-aee4-5432-86ab-1d4910c483dc.html)Take a bow, MHK.
http://www.forbes.com/places/ks/manhattan/
Metro population - 127K??? Does that include Junction City and Salina?
Was wondering about Junc city too. When I was in school(about 9 yrs ago) pop was always just below 50K. I remember because that was the reason I heard several times we didn't have public trans was that we were under some threshold of pop required to get fed funding for it, and that threshold was 50K.
....and getting richer. (http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/a1/article_ffad50ca-aee4-5432-86ab-1d4910c483dc.html)Take a bow, MHK.
http://www.forbes.com/places/ks/manhattan/
Metro population - 127K??? Does that include Junction City and Salina?
Was wondering about Junc city too. When I was in school(about 9 yrs ago) pop was always just below 50K. I remember because that was the reason I heard several times we didn't have public trans was that we were under some threshold of pop required to get fed funding for it, and that threshold was 50K.
That was the reason. The reason we don't now is because the City Commission didn't want to pay for the start-up fees and were worried about wasting the taxpayer's money. So enjoy calling in your 24 hr advance notice called in aTa pickups.
....and getting richer. (http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/a1/article_ffad50ca-aee4-5432-86ab-1d4910c483dc.html)Take a bow, MHK.
http://www.forbes.com/places/ks/manhattan/
Metro population - 127K??? Does that include Junction City and Salina?
Was wondering about Junc city too. When I was in school(about 9 yrs ago) pop was always just below 50K. I remember because that was the reason I heard several times we didn't have public trans was that we were under some threshold of pop required to get fed funding for it, and that threshold was 50K.
That was the reason. The reason we don't now is because the City Commission didn't want to pay for the start-up fees and were worried about wasting the taxpayer's money. So enjoy calling in your 24 hr advance notice called in aTa pickups.
Maybe you guys should vote for a new city commission.
public transit is forpoor dirty unhealthycities. in Manhattan we all own cars and/or bikes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_metropolitan_area
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