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From ESPN:
CHICAGO -- What does the name Thomas Robinson mean to you?
To the casual sports fan -- like the helpful videographer sitting next to me at the Nike Elite Skills Camps at Attack Athletics this weekend -- Robinson's name immediately conjures the devastating image of him consoling his young sister at the funeral of his mother, who suffered a heart attack at the age of 43 in January. Lisa Robinson was the third member of Robinson's family, along with his grandfather and grandmother, to pass away in a three-week span in January, leaving Robinson and his 7-year-old sister without any family they had ever been close to.
"Oh, that's the kid from Kansas," the videographer said. "Lost his mom this season, right? Awful story."
It's safe to say Thomas Robinson wants to be known for more than heartache. Who wouldn't?
The good news: If Robinson plays his junior season at Kansas the way he played at the Amar'e Stoudamire Skills Academy on Saturday, that increased recognition -- and a cherished lottery spot in the jam-packed 2012 NBA draft -- is sure to follow.
It's hard to learn much from these camps, which are largely designed with NBA scouts in mind. But on Saturday, as some of the nation's best collegiate forwards (with Jared Sullinger, Alex Oriakhi and Mouphtao Yarou among them) ran two hours of five-on-five scrimmages with some of the nation's best guards, it was impossible to ignore Robinson's play. The Jayhawk flew down the court, challenged shots at the rim, finished inside rebounds and low-post moves with strength and athleticism, and threw down the indisputable dunk of the day -- a cocked one-handed fast break alley-oop that caused plenty of stone-faced NBA scouts in attendance to cast each other knowingly excited glances.
Those scouts had no doubt seen Robinson before. After all, the forward was a rebounding force as a sophomore. Robinson grabbed 18.8 percent of available boards on the offensive end in 2011, which is nearly as impressive as his 31.1 percent rebounding rate on the defensive end. Robinson didn't play the minimum number of minutes to qualify for Ken Pomeroy's individual player rankings in those statistics. If he did (assuming his rates would have stayed as high in a larger sample size), Robinson would have ranked No. 3 in the nation in OR% and No. 2 in DR%.
The reason -- or reasons -- Robinson didn't get those minutes begins with an "M" and ends with "Orii." Marcus and Markieff Morris lorded over the Kansas frontcourt in 2011, much like Cole Aldrich dominated the Jayhawks' interior in 2010. As Robinson said Saturday (as you can see in the above clip), he had only limited opportunities to showcase his skills.
Now, after the Morris twins's back-to-back selections in last Thursday's NBA draft -- and with no obvious incoming freshmen ready to step in just yet -- Robinson will move into a much larger role in the Kansas frontcourt. He's likely to be joined by 7-foot center junior Jeff Withey, the only other returning forward on the roster.
Whether Robinson will be able to maintain his gaudy efficiency numbers is yet to be seen. Withey won't quite attract the attention of defenses the way the Morris twins did. Robinson also needs to prove he can harness a true post game; in 2011, Robinson was a rim-runner, an athletic forward who saw a shot go up and attacked it with gusto, but not one who frequently initiated his own offense with his back to the basket. Those are among the changes Robinson said he was working on this weekend, in addition to his outside jumper and his passing. He's already anticipating the double-teams.
Still, it's not easy to step into a gym with Sullinger, Yarou, Oriakhi, Mason and Miles Plumlee and even touted Kentucky freshman Anthony Davis and look like the best player on the floor. That's what Robinson did Saturday. If all goes as planned, we'll remember that performance as a mere preview of what Kansas fans have to look forward to in 2011-12. By then, everyone will know Thomas Robinson's name. Only this time, it'll be on his terms.
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Robinson is a great player.
Bill will really have to out do himself to make his stock slide at the end of this coming year.
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3 different sources:
KANSAS JAYHAWKS GUARD JOSH SELBY HAS LOTTERY-LEVEL TALENT. By Chad Ford
LAS VEGAS (ESPN.com) – On Thursday, I wrote Part 1 of my impressions from my time with Impact Basketball in Las Vegas. Here’s another thought from Sin City: Josh Selby is a lottery talent.
I think Knight will be the 3rd PG taken behind Irving and Selby. I do expect Knight to go somewhere in the lottery, probably in the top 10.
Self said Morris is as talented a returning player as any in the Big 12. He said Morris and Selby will be two lottery-like picks on the squad. "I like our team; we'll be more athletic this year, but we won't have the anchor inside like Cole,'' Self said. "We needed a personality and a presence. [Selby] is that. If he's able to come in here and adjust quickly, he'll have as much impact as any player we've had as a freshman since I've been here.''
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Robinson is a great player.
Bill will really have to out do himself to make his stock slide at the end of this coming year.
Look for vague ankle injuries and indirect slandering on the radio and other media.
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Robinson is a great player.
Bill will really have to out do himself to make his stock slide at the end of this coming year.
Look for vague ankle injuries and indirect slandering on the radio and other media.
No, he'll go off the court this year. Commit him to a mental facility to help him "deal" with the past year. Too many recruits are on to him. Have to switch things up a bit.
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Is T-Rob allowed back into Lawrence clubs or whatever he got kicked out of yet?
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Amazing what these players can accomplish without Self on the bench
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Hopefully he has the full support of the underground railroad(morris twins, selby, xavier, cole). He is going to need it.
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Robinson is a great player.
Bill will really have to out do himself to make his stock slide at the end of this coming year.
QFT. '11-'12 has a chance to be one of Seff's finest "coaching" years.
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Poor K-State fan will never experience the joy that comes with having a man of Thomas Robinson's character on campus and representing your University. Instead you're stuck with the Michael Beasley's of the world, I wonder if he's still stuck in his "playful 6 year old" stage?
Worry not young Future Farmer's of America, I'm sure one of your families raised what later became the Grilled Lamb Chops I'll be dining on tonight at Teller's.
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Poor K-State fan will never experience the joy that comes with having a man of Thomas Robinson's character on campus and representing your University. Instead you're stuck with the Michael Beasley's of the world, I wonder if he's still stuck in his "playful 6 year old" stage?
Worry not young Future Farmer's of America, I'm sure one of your families raised what later became the Grilled Lamb Chops I'll be dining on tonight at Teller's.
http://www.pinwheelfarm.org/
Pinwheel Farm supplies non-irrigated vegetables and other horticultural crops, forage-fed lamb meat, poultry, and wool products to our community through on-farm sales, the Downtown Lawrence Farmers’ Market, locally owned restaurants, and Lawrence Memorial Hospital.
Funny how KU forgets they are in the plains also.
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Nice of Ben's fat little girlfriend to aid him in his never ending quest for validation.
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Is T-Rob allowed back into Lawrence clubs or whatever he got kicked out of yet?
They probably ended up arresting and executing the door guy that was doing his job, so yea.
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Poor K-State fan will never experience the joy that comes with having a man of Thomas Robinson's character on campus and representing your University. Instead you're stuck with the Michael Beasley's of the world, I wonder if he's still stuck in his "playful 6 year old" stage?
Guys were stuck with the Top 3 picks of the world! Something KU knows nothing about.
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T Rob still sucker punching bouncers?
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Poor K-State fan will never experience the joy that comes with having a man of Thomas Robinson's character on campus and representing your University. Instead you're stuck with the Michael Beasley's of the world, I wonder if he's still stuck in his "playful 6 year old" stage?
Guys were stuck with the Top 3 picks of the world! Something KU knows nothing about.
wut
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Poor K-State fan will never experience the joy that comes with having a man of Thomas Robinson's character on campus and representing your University. Instead you're stuck with the Michael Beasley's of the world, I wonder if he's still stuck in his "playful 6 year old" stage?
Guys were stuck with the Top 3 picks of the world! Something KU knows nothing about.
wut
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Good point that Elite Hawk 2014 is a real dumbass.
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Poor K-State fan will never experience the joy that comes with having a man of Thomas Robinson's character on campus and representing your University. Instead you're stuck with the Michael Beasley's of the world, I wonder if he's still stuck in his "playful 6 year old" stage?
Guys were stuck with the Top 3 picks of the world! Something KU knows nothing about.
wut
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Michael Beasley 2nd overall pick in the 2008 NBA Draft. When was the last time KU had a top 3 pick? top 5?
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Bet Trob has a nagging injury this year.
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Amazing, you used three pics of the same open lane dunk, 'grats beems
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$100 BBBS bucks that T-Rob's sister bites it next season.
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$100 BBBS bucks that T-Rob's sister bites it next season.
You're late.
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in those pics, he should be dunking with two hands.
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in those pics, he should be dunking with two hands.
Not when you're a 6'10 beast man with a 7'1 wing span.
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Not when you're a 6'10 beast man with a 7'1 wing span.
don't act stupid.
lol @ the mu defense though. faith in haith, i guess.
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Poor K-State fan will never experience the joy that comes with having a man of Thomas Robinson's character on campus and representing your University. Instead you're stuck with the Michael Beasley's of the world, I wonder if he's still stuck in his "playful 6 year old" stage?
Worry not young Future Farmer's of America, I'm sure one of your families raised what later became the Grilled Lamb Chops I'll be dining on tonight at Teller's.
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-jayhawks/2011/4/19/2120368/ku-basketball-thomas-robinson-arrested-nightclub
Is this an example of high character and representing the University of Kansas well?
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Do KU fans really believe this? Your players are criminals, and I'm not even kidding...
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Do KU fans really believe this? Your players are criminals, and I'm not even kidding...
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Didn't mention anything about a father, is there one in the picture? If not I'll bet his sister will grow into an elite exotic dancer with her abandonment issues and all. :kstategrad:
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It's going to be real ugly when T-Rob helps engineer another 1st or 2nd round loss (when ku was clearly on course to win a national title) and all the hick meth heads in Lawrence start saying how T-Rob deserved to have his family die and they hope his sister gets raped at a ku frat house. That and Bill Self telling NBA scouts T-Rob is shitty and overrated.
Poor T-Rob, he doesn't deserve this. :bawl:
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It's going to be real ugly when T-Rob helps engineer another 1st or 2nd round loss (when ku was clearly on course to win a national title) and all the hick meth heads in Lawrence start saying how T-Rob deserved to have his family die and they hope his sister gets raped at a ku frat house. That and Bill Self telling NBA scouts T-Rob is crapty and overrated.
Poor T-Rob, he doesn't deserve this. :bawl:
Inevitably they will be up in arms over the donations they made to his sisters fund when he leaves for the NBA.
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Didn't mention anything about a father, is there one in the picture? If not I'll bet his sister will grow into an elite exotic dancer with her abandonment issues and all. :kstategrad:
would not be suprising
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Didn't mention anything about a father, is there one in the picture? If not I'll bet his sister will grow into an elite exotic dancer with her abandonment issues and all. :kstategrad:
Was covered about a month ago, or more.
She lives with their father now. So NCAA allowed boosters to donate to a fund for her, for the school to provide a free education for her, and for a parent of current players to watch her. However, the first two happened and not the last. They gave her all this stuff and she went to live with her dad. No one has said anything about it.
Can only hope that we cheat this way in the very near future.
Robinson isn't going anywhere unless he is a lottery pick. Would have to have financial safety net for when Bill rips all of this out from under his kid sis.
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Poor K-State fan will never experience the joy that comes with having a man of Thomas Robinson's character on campus and representing your University. Instead you're stuck with the Michael Beasley's of the world, I wonder if he's still stuck in his "playful 6 year old" stage?
Worry not young Future Farmer's of America, I'm sure one of your families raised what later became the Grilled Lamb Chops I'll be dining on tonight at Teller's.
Congrats for encapsulating just about everything I hate about University of Kansas fans in your succinct post. Arrogance....ignorance...general assholery...pompousness...lack of knowledge concerning the delicacy that is the meat goat....
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Poor K-State fan will never experience the joy that comes with having a man of Thomas Robinson's character on campus and representing your University. Instead you're stuck with the Michael Beasley's of the world, I wonder if he's still stuck in his "playful 6 year old" stage?
Worry not young Future Farmer's of America, I'm sure one of your families raised what later became the Grilled Lamb Chops I'll be dining on tonight at Teller's.
Congrats for encapsulating just about everything I hate about University of Kansas fans in your succinct post. Arrogance....ignorance...general assholery...pompousness...lack of knowledge concerning the delicacy that is the meat goat....
I can see the veins popping out of the side of your sunburned head.
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Can't wait to not hire a single 2014 KU grad because of their lackluster educations, tacky attire, and piss poor work ethics
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Poor K-State fan will never experience the joy that comes with having a man of Thomas Robinson's character on campus and representing your University. Instead you're stuck with the Michael Beasley's of the world, I wonder if he's still stuck in his "playful 6 year old" stage?
Worry not young Future Farmer's of America, I'm sure one of your families raised what later became the Grilled Lamb Chops I'll be dining on tonight at Teller's.
Thomas Robinson can only be considered a "man" because he's the only Male of his household left standing. Otherwise, he's a sad little boy who still lashes out at bouncers who are just doing their job.
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Spitting on someone is only cool in a dirty movie.
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Teller's does sound pretty tasty. Their spinach ricotta ravioli is muy bueno.
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Teller's does sound pretty tasty. Their spinach ricotta ravioli is muy bueno.
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Move to Lawrencetucky hick thread.
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wouldnt robinson have been a lottery pick this year if self had started him like he should have? of course that wouldnt have been in self's best interest because the morris twins were going pro regardless...
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Teller's does sound pretty tasty. Their spinach ricotta ravioli is muy bueno.
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Move to Lawrencetucky hick thread.
What's wrong with being from Kentucky?
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wouldnt robinson have been a lottery pick this year if self had started him like he should have? of course that wouldnt have been in self's best interest because the morris twins were going pro regardless...
wut
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The Morris twins just went back-to-back in the NBA lottery and led KU to a 35-game win season. When was the last time Little Ag School on the Prairie won 30+ games in a season (in something besides soil judging)?
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Warm up the banner machine!!
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wouldnt robinson have been a lottery pick this year if self had started him like he should have? of course that wouldnt have been in self's best interest because the morris twins were going pro regardless...
wut
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The Morris twins just went back-to-back in the NBA lottery and led KU to a 35-game win season. When was the last time Little Ag School on the Prairie won 30+ games in a season (in something besides soil judging)?
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Congrats on parlaying all that 35 win awesomeness into a championship.... errr, I mean Final Four.... well, congrats on the Elite Eight at least :dunno:
Yea, if I were you I would keep talking up the 35 wins as well since the tournament came back as embarrassing again
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wouldnt robinson have been a lottery pick this year if self had started him like he should have? of course that wouldnt have been in self's best interest because the morris twins were going pro regardless...
wut
:facepalm:
The Morris twins just went back-to-back in the NBA lottery and led KU to a 35-game win season. When was the last time Little Ag School on the Prairie won 30+ games in a season (in something besides soil judging)?
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Congrats on parlaying all that 35 win awesomeness into a championship.... errr, I mean Final Four.... well, congrats on the Elite Eight at least :dunno:
Yea, if I were you I would keep talking up the 35 wins as well since the tournament came back as embarrassing again
35 wins, top 5 in the country, an Elite Eight, and a Big 12 regular season trophy and Big 12 tournament trophy. Life is good.
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wouldnt robinson have been a lottery pick this year if self had started him like he should have? of course that wouldnt have been in self's best interest because the morris twins were going pro regardless...
wut
:facepalm:
The Morris twins just went back-to-back in the NBA lottery and led KU to a 35-game win season. When was the last time Little Ag School on the Prairie won 30+ games in a season (in something besides soil judging)?
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Congrats on parlaying all that 35 win awesomeness into a championship.... errr, I mean Final Four.... well, congrats on the Elite Eight at least :dunno:
Yea, if I were you I would keep talking up the 35 wins as well since the tournament came back as embarrassing again
35 wins, top 5 in the country, an Elite Eight, and a Big 12 regular season trophy and Big 12 tournament trophy. Life is good.
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Looks good.
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OregonHawk cracks me up, but it's more laughing at his insecurities than him being funny..
I honestly just like this EliteHawk2014 guy, he's a dick.. I like dicks (but not in the gay way).
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Just amazing how beems uses :kstategrad: or :love: in every 1 of his posts...we need to go recruit some good posters in the offseason that aren't such bitch little faggots
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OregonHawk cracks me up, but it's more laughing at his insecurities than him being funny..
I honestly just like this EliteHawk2014 guy, he's a dick.. I like dicks (but not in the gay way).
He seems like a cool dude, wears his fandom on his chest.
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Just amazing how beems uses :kstategrad: or :love: in every 1 of his posts...we need to go recruit some good posters in the offseason that aren't such bitch little faggots
Especially like the "Elites use $20 Brita filters they buy from wal-mart :kstategrad: " post.
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Just amazing how beems uses :kstategrad: or :love: in every 1 of his posts...we need to go recruit some good posters in the offseason that aren't such bitch little faggots
Especially like the "Elites use $20 Brita filters they buy from wal-mart :kstategrad: " post.
Still waiting for the "I donated an entire $20 to BBBS :kstategrad:" post.