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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: wes mantooth on June 03, 2011, 11:01:29 PM
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rough ridin' hate it. don't know anything about vehicles and hate it when they tell me that they recommend this or that. hate it.
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have a friend who works at one of those places. he always "hooks me up"
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have a friend who works at one of those places. he always "hooks me up"
what does that even mean? changes oil for free or doesn't try to eff you in the ass (figuratively)?
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i feel the same way about doctors.
but yeah, i usually crumble in situations like that but for some reason i get superhero powers around those fuckers.
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have a friend who works at one of those places. he always "hooks me up"
what does that even mean? changes oil for free or doesn't try to eff you in the ass (figuratively)?
discounts mostly, line up the best tech to do the work, etc.
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Tell them that your wife makes all of the major purchasing decisions and you will have her call to schedule an appointment if she deems it necessary.
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them: you need shocks and a new belt
me: no denied
them: the vehicle owners manuel thing or whatever schedule says it's due for them
me: no denied
them: do you want the expensive elite oil
me: no denied
them: it will make it last longer or some other stupid crap
me: trading it in before I pay for any of that crap
them: .....so just the oil change?
me: yes, approved
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Damn SD I guess you have limits to your unfrugalness. Will they not let you use your spg plastic?
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I always take a Sharpie (taped to a stick) and put an "X" on the oil filter because it's really hard to get to on my car. About a 1/4 of the time they don't change it.
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company car. i just give them the credit card and they do what they want. :gocho:
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Usually just do it myself. Kinda like mowing the lawn- sure, I could pay somebody to do it but I kinda like doing it myself. If I do go to like a Jiffy Lube or whatever I tell those SOBs I'm not paying for crap except the oil change. If they want to do anything extra, that's on them.
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bring it to midas and get the Midas Touch Maintenance Package
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I change my own oil. Only time I revert to other people doing it is when I'm in a hurry to leave town and notice I'm like 2 grand over the milage limit. But really I like changing the oil in my car. I get to pull up the car in the garage and jack the front up, crank the radio to 10 on whatever old school rock station I find, grab a beer and take my sweet time with it. Make the neighbors think I'm a gearhead. I can usually pull this off, though not so much in my wifes compact suv. Btw, I never dispose of my oil in a timely manner. I'll just funnel the old oil back into the jug that came with the new stuff. Seriously, I got like 25 liters of used motor oil. If anyone wants to kill Wefalds grass PM me...
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Free oil changes for life of my vehicle. :gocho:
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my father in law works at a dealership.
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New car everytime.
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:facepalm:
It takes like a half hour and will cost you half as much. Lazy asses.
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:facepalm:
It takes like a half hour and will cost you half as much. Lazy asses.
A half hour of my time is worth more than it costs
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:facepalm:
It takes like a half hour and will cost you half as much. Lazy asses.
A half hour of my time is worth more than it costs
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I drop it off, get a test driver and go on with my day, pick up later. maybe 30 dollars? :dunno:
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when they recommend something, ask yourself if you could deal with it failing while you're driving. if it's engine related and you don't mind the possibility of a breakdown, you probably don't need it. if it's brakes, wheel, or steering related, you might have to think about the failing while driving scenario for a bit.
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when they recommend something, ask yourself if you could deal with it failing while you're driving. if it's engine related and you don't mind the possibility of a breakdown, you probably don't need it. if it's brakes, wheel, or steering related, you might have to think about the failing while driving scenario for a bit.
Triple-A and dashboard Jesus. BOOM! Roasted.
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You should also ask yourself if you're a conplete rube and they're just raping you for repairs that are not needed. It happens more than you think.
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:facepalm:
It takes like a half hour and will cost you half as much. Lazy asses.
Not true. It costs about the same with a coupon. Only difference is they don't use as good of oil that you can buy yourself. Also, you can get your tires rotated for free with said coupon.
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Loved how Jiffy Lube would have some dumbass mechanic, who can't even manage to brush his hair, show you some chart on his computer that illustrates why you need a new flux capacitor, fuel modulator, accelerator coolant, etc in addition to an oil change.
They are the Boiler Room of dumbass bad hair mechanic places.
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Free oil changes for life of my vehicle. :gocho:
Spoke with friends about this a few weeks back. Will work on getting that rolled into my next vehicle purchase.
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Loved how Jiffy Lube would have some dumbass mechanic, who can't even manage to brush his hair, show you some chart on his computer that illustrates why you need a new flux capacitor, fuel modulator, accelerator coolant, etc in addition to an oil change.
They are the Boiler Room of dumbass bad hair mechanic places.
I just go to the dealer or Wal-Mart. I never have any of the problems with add-on sales that I had with Jiffy Lube. I hate that place.
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Free oil changes for life of my vehicle. :gocho:
Spoke with friends about this a few weeks back. Will work on getting that rolled into my next vehicle purchase.
Yeah, I am winning like crazy on this one. I put around 2k-2.2k miles per month on my truck and because of Nissan's crazy method of putting together a large truck engine, it is evidently a huge pain in the ass to change a Titan's oil and cost me around $70 the one time I didn't take advantage of the free change.
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Loved how Jiffy Lube would have some dumbass mechanic, who can't even manage to brush his hair, show you some chart on his computer that illustrates why you need a new flux capacitor, fuel modulator, accelerator coolant, etc in addition to an oil change.
They are the Boiler Room of dumbass bad hair mechanic places.
I just go to the dealer or Wal-Mart. I never have any of the problems with add-on sales that I had with Jiffy Lube. I hate that place.
I would stay away from wally world, but that's just me. I've seen some dumbasses who work on cars there, not good. Of course there are dumbasses everywhere, but i think there is a higher concentration at that place.
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Anyone else remember a lube place called Grease Monkey? That name alone :love:
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Anyone else remember a lube place called Grease Monkey? That name alone :love:
Used to be a regular there. Well, not so much myself, since I was about 4, but I'd go with my dad.
I'd have supported it if it was still around when I turned 16.
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Grease Monkey is still there in Topeka (21st and Wanamaker) but it is now named Lube Stop.
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Loved how Jiffy Lube would have some dumbass mechanic, who can't even manage to brush his hair, show you some chart on his computer that illustrates why you need a new flux capacitor, fuel modulator, accelerator coolant, etc in addition to an oil change.
They are the Boiler Room of dumbass bad hair mechanic places.
I just go to the dealer or Wal-Mart. I never have any of the problems with add-on sales that I had with Jiffy Lube. I hate that place.
I would stay away from wally world, but that's just me. I've seen some dumbasses who work on cars there, not good. Of course there are dumbasses everywhere, but i think there is a higher concentration at that place.
Yeah, the last time I got my oil changed at the Wal, I got into my car and there was grease all over my arm rest, then I popped the hood and the oil cap was just sitting on top of the engine.
I made them pay to have my car detailed, and ever since then I've changed my own oil.
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Fact: cheap oil is just as good as expensive oil.
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people saying your car needs oil is a myth. cars don't need oil. the oil companies came up with the myth to sell oil. there is no natural use for oil in the world, so they came up with the myth.
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Grease Monkey is still there in Topeka (21st and Wanamaker) but it is now named Lube Stop.
Still a Grease Monkey in OP on Metcalf. It's in my rotation.
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True story, when I bought my last 6 series I cranked open the hood and spent like a good half an hour fishing around for the damn dip stick. Couldn't find the damn thing, looked all through the manual. Finally had my wife bring me the phone and called up Baron and the guy is like "Sir, there isn't a dip stick. Your oil gauge is an displayed on the computer screen on the dash".
Felt like a total dumbass! But then I laughed it off and was like "Germans. What will they think of next!"
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Fact: cheap oil is just as good as expensive oil.
For killing things or burning things? Yeah sure. Not so much for your car. Will it ever really matter to the average owner? Probably not.
Also, find the dude on your street that has a bunch of car parts and crap in his garage, will probably change your oil and various other crap for free or a few beers. Usually says he "enjoys" fixing crap. Won't up-sell you on anything, 'cept for maybe asking you to watch some Nascar or something.
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Took my car into the shop with a coupon for an oil change the other day. Should have known there was a reason that the price was so low. Asked them if they could take a look at the AC for me, it was blowing hot air out of the vents. They told me that the AC just needed recharged, they did the dye test and there were no leaks at all. Cost me about $180. Two days later the car is blowing warm air again, take it into the shop so that they can take a look at it, obviously has a leak. I'm hoping at this point that they'll do the diagnostic and recharge for free, don't mind paying for them to fix the leak. Well, they do the dye test again, and it is VERY obvious where the leak is. Since my AC has been like this for the better part of a year, obviously the leak has been there the whole time and they didn't do the dye test the first time, even though they said they did and charged me for it. While they are replacing a six inch hose and fitting (which somehow costs $300), they end up accidentally breaking off a valve on another line that connects to the AC. The mechanic who was working on it starts to tell me how it happened, then the floor manager runs up and starts talking about how they don't know what happened, but it was surely broken before I got there. So, they got me for another $350 for something that they broke on my vehicle. Called the regional manager the same day and told him about my experience, he said he'd look into it and give me a call back. Obviously that didn't happen. I rough ridin' hate mechanics.
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Took my car into the shop with a coupon for an oil change the other day. Should have known there was a reason that the price was so low. Asked them if they could take a look at the AC for me, it was blowing hot air out of the vents. They told me that the AC just needed recharged, they did the dye test and there were no leaks at all. Cost me about $180. Two days later the car is blowing warm air again, take it into the shop so that they can take a look at it, obviously has a leak. I'm hoping at this point that they'll do the diagnostic and recharge for free, don't mind paying for them to fix the leak. Well, they do the dye test again, and it is VERY obvious where the leak is. Since my AC has been like this for the better part of a year, obviously the leak has been there the whole time and they didn't do the dye test the first time, even though they said they did and charged me for it. While they are replacing a six inch hose and fitting (which somehow costs $300), they end up accidentally breaking off a valve on another line that connects to the AC. The mechanic who was working on it starts to tell me how it happened, then the floor manager runs up and starts talking about how they don't know what happened, but it was surely broken before I got there. So, they got me for another $350 for something that they broke on my vehicle. Called the regional manager the same day and told him about my experience, he said he'd look into it and give me a call back. Obviously that didn't happen. I rough ridin' hate mechanics.
expose them. where is this place?
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It's on Wornall, Calvert's Express.
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It's on Wornall, Calvert's Express.
you never should have paid to fix damage they caused in the first place.
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I mean, when the guy running the shop decides to eff you, there's not much you can do. The wife and I only have one car. They weren't going to give it back to me unless I paid them what they charged me.
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call 913-631-9995 and ask to speak to Lisa Calvert and ask her what your next steps need to be, prior to heading to small claims
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if she's not available, ask to speak w/ the KC supervisor
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I've spoken with him, he said he'd look into it and call me back. He didn't. I called again today requesting that he do so.
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I'm getting my oil changed right now! :-0
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true story about Calvert's express: one time i needed an oil change and was driving on Wornall and saw Calvert's and decided to give it a try. i pulled into the parking lot and looked at the cars that were being worked on and then said (out loud) "nope" and pulled out of the parking lot. haven't been back since. basically my instinct is top shelf. thanks for confirming, ksusamplemouse
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true story about Calvert's express: one time i needed an oil change and was driving on Wornall and saw Calvert's and decided to give it a try. i pulled into the parking lot and looked at the cars that were being worked on and then said (out loud) "nope" and pulled out of the parking lot. haven't been back since. basically my instinct is top shelf. thanks for confirming, ksusamplemouse
I'm happy to help :thumbsup:
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I go to the dealer I bought my vehicle from
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When I bought my car I got the maintenance package thing so I have already pre-paid for all my oil changes and whatever else the manufacturer recommends. I probably got screwed on price compared to taking it somewhere else and/or not doing everythign they recommend but it is a lot less stressful when I go to get my oil changed they just do everything that is due at that mileage and I don't pay anything.
Plus I get free tires for life if I get my maintenance done there so I was going to have to take it to the dealership for that anyway.
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My father in law usually changes mine. It's a little emasculating just handing him tools and watching but it's better than sitting at the mechanic.
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Changing oil should go in the scams thread
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my AC is blowing hot too. Need to take it and I'm terrified!
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I actually like going to the valvoline, they have good coffee and a slushy machine.
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I actually like going to the valvoline, they have good coffee and a slushy machine.
That's what I usually do as well, but the $15.99 oil change coupon was too good to pass up.
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I tried changing my oil once. After buying the new oil and filter it was a whopping $2-3 cheaper than if I had used a coupon. Plus getting under the car and mess... Not worth it.
I typically use the <$20 oil change coupons, but I kinda know I'm going to get what I pay for and the shop is running that special as a loss leader to sell me other stuff. And I can't find any coupons that include oil and tire rotation any more. I'm just too cheap to shell out $40 to go to a reputable mechanic I can trust.
I agree that Jiffy Lube is THE WORST at trying to up-sell you stuff. The guys who are surprisingly good are Wal-Mart - they accept all competitor coupons and they just don't seem to care about selling you other stuff. Plus, it's Wal-Mart, so there's a pretty good chance they'll treat you right if they mess something up.
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I tried changing my oil once. After buying the new oil and filter it was a whopping $2-3 cheaper than if I had used a coupon. Plus getting under the car and mess... Not worth it.
I typically use the <$20 oil change coupons, but I kinda know I'm going to get what I pay for and the shop is running that special as a loss leader to sell me other stuff. And I can't find any coupons that include oil and tire rotation any more. I'm just too cheap to shell out $40 to go to a reputable mechanic I can trust.
I agree that Jiffy Lube is THE WORST at trying to up-sell you stuff. The guys who are surprisingly good are Wal-Mart - they accept all competitor coupons and they just don't seem to care about selling you other stuff. Plus, it's Wal-Mart, so there's a pretty good chance they'll treat you right if they mess something up.
There is also a pretty good chance that they will mess something up.
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Really tells you a lot about ksuw
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I tried changing my oil once. After buying the new oil and filter it was a whopping $2-3 cheaper than if I had used a coupon. Plus getting under the car and mess... Not worth it.
I typically use the <$20 oil change coupons, but I kinda know I'm going to get what I pay for and the shop is running that special as a loss leader to sell me other stuff. And I can't find any coupons that include oil and tire rotation any more. I'm just too cheap to shell out $40 to go to a reputable mechanic I can trust.
I agree that Jiffy Lube is THE WORST at trying to up-sell you stuff. The guys who are surprisingly good are Wal-Mart - they accept all competitor coupons and they just don't seem to care about selling you other stuff. Plus, it's Wal-Mart, so there's a pretty good chance they'll treat you right if they mess something up.
There is also a pretty good chance that they will mess something up.
Yeah, they forgot to put my oil cap back on once, so most of the oil spewed out when I drove it from Manhattan to Lawrence right after that. My engine almost seized up, BUT they did pay for everything to be fixed. So, you're both right.
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the jeep dealership I go to charges, like, nothing to do it. ~$20 I think. plus they don't try to eff me on other stuff because I'm constantly asking them if my tires are still good and other stuff and they're like, "yeah, you're fine. you don't need that" which seems like a shitty business model but seems like hitting the lottery for someone who knows dick about automobiles. meanwhile, mrs. dave's honda dealer is always scamming her into buying something random with each oil change. like, how many rough ridin' filters does a honda have? over a million?
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Really tells you a lot about ksuw
It kinda does, doesn't it?
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the jeep dealership I go to charges, like, nothing to do it. ~$20 I think. plus they don't try to eff me on other stuff because I'm constantly asking them if my tires are still good and other stuff and they're like, "yeah, you're fine. you don't need that" which seems like a shitty business model but seems like hitting the lottery for someone who knows dick about automobiles. meanwhile, mrs. dave's honda dealer is always scamming her into buying something random with each oil change. like, how many rough ridin' filters does a honda have? over a million?
Honda dealerships are the worst.
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my oil changes cost a fortune, i had no idea a car engine could take 10 liters of oil
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I tried changing my oil once. After buying the new oil and filter it was a whopping $2-3 cheaper than if I had used a coupon. Plus getting under the car and mess... Not worth it.
I typically use the <$20 oil change coupons, but I kinda know I'm going to get what I pay for and the shop is running that special as a loss leader to sell me other stuff. And I can't find any coupons that include oil and tire rotation any more. I'm just too cheap to shell out $40 to go to a reputable mechanic I can trust.
I agree that Jiffy Lube is THE WORST at trying to up-sell you stuff. The guys who are surprisingly good are Wal-Mart - they accept all competitor coupons and they just don't seem to care about selling you other stuff. Plus, it's Wal-Mart, so there's a pretty good chance they'll treat you right if they mess something up.
There is also a pretty good chance that they will mess something up.
Yes, almost no training, and if any, it's very little and poorly done. I never go there because I hate having to watch what they are doing so the don't "eff it up.".
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the jeep dealership I go to charges, like, nothing to do it. ~$20 I think. plus they don't try to eff me on other stuff because I'm constantly asking them if my tires are still good and other stuff and they're like, "yeah, you're fine. you don't need that" which seems like a shitty business model but seems like hitting the lottery for someone who knows dick about automobiles. meanwhile, mrs. dave's honda dealer is always scamming her into buying something random with each oil change. like, how many rough ridin' filters does a honda have? over a million?
My wife takes her Tundra in to the dealer and they charge her $65.00 for an oil change. The worst part in where she takes it in for routine maintenance and they charge her anywhere from $400 to $600 bucks for it. But it makes her happy that the "experts" are doing it.
I take my Ram in for oil changes or warranty work. The most I pay is usually less than $30 bills.
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I got free ones for the life of my truck from the dealer. The dealer is like 30 min from my home, though. The first time, I took it to a local guy and he ended up charging $70. The truck takes something like 7 quarts and it includes a second or third step to fill it all the way that most vehicles don't. I used to just have the local guy do my old changes because I would rather drop $24 than drive 30 min one way and wait. I do that now, though. I don't know where my limit is, but it is somewhere between $24 and $70. Also, I get it done during working hours, so that probably helps.
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my oil changes cost a fortune, i had no idea a car engine could take 10 liters of oil
That's more than 10 quarts. WTF do you drive?
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oh i meant quarts :cool:
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maybe you meant quatz
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when I used to work in North KC, i'd take my truck to Simoniz. I loved that place. You show up they change the oil while you sit inside and wait, then they include a carwash with it. I could leave work at 10:00 in the morning, get the oil changed, truck washed, and be back in my office by 10:30. It was the best.
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The Quick Lane at Mel Hambelton in Wichita is about the cheapest place I have found. It's something like $45 to have them service my truck (includes tire rotation) and then a week or two later I get a $10 Visa card in the mail to buy booze with. I call that a win-win.
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The Quick Lane at Mel Hambelton in Wichita is about the cheapest place I have found. It's something like $45 to have them service my truck (includes tire rotation) and then a week or two later I get a $10 Visa card in the mail to buy booze with. I call that a win-win.
And you can eat some popcorn and cookies while you are there.
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That doesn't sound very heart healthy.
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That doesn't sound very heart healthy.
Well no one is forcing you to eat the popcorn and cookies.
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That doesn't sound very heart healthy.
Maybe the cookies are made out of vegetables.
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if you think getting your oil changed is hard work try getting someone to give you a fair price on a broken back right window that wont roll down!
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Full disclosure, I used to always change my own oil. Now, I can't buy the oil and filters for what that place will change it for. Plus I can BBS my ass off while they are working on it. :emawkid:
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Full disclosure, I used to always change my own oil. Now, I can't buy the oil and filters for what that place will change it for. Plus I can BBS my ass off while they are working on it. :emawkid:
Same here, Xoco! Now I go to the dealer real early and try to make it to work on time, but they are always real slow and make me late anyway.
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Full disclosure, I used to always change my own oil. Now, I can't buy the oil and filters for what that place will change it for. Plus I can BBS my ass off while they are working on it. :emawkid:
This.
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if you think getting your oil changed is hard work try getting someone to give you a fair price on a broken back right window that wont roll down!
Can you do that yourself? My interior door handle busted a few months ago. I saved about $150 in labor just fixing it myself. There's a youtube video out there for pretty much any repair. The toughest part was just removing the interior door panel (those little plastic clips suck to remove without breaking).
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that broken back passenger window on the 5-series is one of my favorite jokes on here
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My uncle last Thanksgiving: Yeeeeeeep. I haven't changed my oil in about five years. I just change the filter every three months. Oil doesn't go bad. It will lubricate forever. You just have to keep it clean.
I go to this place called Oil Express. They say 10 minutes and they rough ridin' mean it. I go there when I'm driving by and see there's no wait. I like it because I don't need to spend more than 10 minutes dealing with that crap.
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My uncle last Thanksgiving: Yeeeeeeep. I haven't changed my oil in about five years. I just change the filter every three months. Oil doesn't go bad. It will lubricate forever. You just have to keep it clean.
I go to this place called Oil Express. They say 10 minutes and they rough ridin' mean it. I go there when I'm driving by and see there's no wait. I like it because I don't need to spend more than 10 minutes dealing with that crap.
I mean evaporation though, right?
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My uncle last Thanksgiving: Yeeeeeeep. I haven't changed my oil in about five years. I just change the filter every three months. Oil doesn't go bad. It will lubricate forever. You just have to keep it clean.
I go to this place called Oil Express. They say 10 minutes and they rough ridin' mean it. I go there when I'm driving by and see there's no wait. I like it because I don't need to spend more than 10 minutes dealing with that crap.
I mean evaporation though, right?
He did also say something about topping it off, I believe.
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My uncle last Thanksgiving: Yeeeeeeep. I haven't changed my oil in about five years. I just change the filter every three months. Oil doesn't go bad. It will lubricate forever. You just have to keep it clean.
I go to this place called Oil Express. They say 10 minutes and they rough ridin' mean it. I go there when I'm driving by and see there's no wait. I like it because I don't need to spend more than 10 minutes dealing with that crap.
i am your uncle. also, my last car was left abandoned at the on-ramp to the lion's den sex shop at about midnight on super bowl sunday 2014 and then i just bought a new one
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My uncle last Thanksgiving: Yeeeeeeep. I haven't changed my oil in about five years. I just change the filter every three months. Oil doesn't go bad. It will lubricate forever. You just have to keep it clean.
I go to this place called Oil Express. They say 10 minutes and they rough ridin' mean it. I go there when I'm driving by and see there's no wait. I like it because I don't need to spend more than 10 minutes dealing with that crap.
i am your uncle. also, my last car was left abandoned at the on-ramp to the lion's den sex shop at about midnight on super bowl sunday 2014 and then i just bought a new one
Pretty lucky that you were pretty much right at your house when it died.
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:lol:
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I've spoken with him, he said he'd look into it and call me back. He didn't. I called again today requesting that he do so.
anything come of this?
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i only change my oil about once a year. but its continually being refreshed because the hellantra eats a quart every three months or so
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:th_twocents:
Farm life is slightly different, so I changed the oil on anything and everything growing up. But in KC I don't have a driveway or an easy way to dispose of the used oil & filter properly. And I'm not dumping it on the ground like every farmer has done for 50 years. Fry's in OP does it for $20 w/ a coupon.
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if you think getting your oil changed is hard work try getting someone to give you a fair price on a broken back right window that wont roll down!
Can you do that yourself? My interior door handle busted a few months ago. I saved about $150 in labor just fixing it myself. There's a youtube video out there for pretty much any repair. The toughest part was just removing the interior door panel (those little plastic clips suck to remove without breaking).
its a bmw bro. im not doing it myself.