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Title: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 11, 2011, 10:14:05 AM
You're pulled over, what do you do?

I say you keep two empties and one full can of beer in your car.  When you get pulled over, stop, turn your engine off, drop your keys out the window onto the ground so that the officer can clearly see you do it.  Pretend to pound the two already open beers.  Open and drink the remaining beer.  Hey, officer, prove I was drunk while I was driving.  Boom.

Would that work?  I think it would.

EDIT:  Of course, you'd probably get a drunk in public or something, but that is way better than a DUI.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: bigwillie20 on May 11, 2011, 10:17:09 AM
make a run for it  :drink:  :driving:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F204.45.110.156%2Fbin%2F062010%2F1275645698_drunk-driver-takes-off-at-the-airport.gif&hash=41275932e202cb5c3160b548a71b0c3df69b8cf5)
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: wetwillie on May 11, 2011, 10:19:29 AM
fool proof plan, you probably saved some d00ds a lot of future trouble.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 11, 2011, 10:29:33 AM
It's called "The Cabrera" and it is a bold manuever.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 11, 2011, 10:51:35 AM
This would work especially well if you are in a state that doesn't have an open container law.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: _33 on May 11, 2011, 11:08:53 AM
KSUBrian punched a wall after reading this thread.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: CNS on May 11, 2011, 11:15:46 AM
Lawyer buddy told me a few years ago that if you have any possibility of failing, you should never submit to a test.  Never.

Said that if you refuse, they take your license for a year but that it won't damage your insurance or go on your record as a DUI.

If you fail a test, you still lose your license, get royally mumped on your insurance, and get a DUI on the record.

Thankfully, I haven't had to make this decision myself.   :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 11, 2011, 11:36:27 AM
Lawyer buddy told me a few years ago that if you have any possibility of failing, you should never submit to a test.  Never.

Said that if you refuse, they take your license for a year but that it won't damage your insurance or go on your record as a DUI.

If you fail a test, you still lose your license, get royally mumped on your insurance, and get a DUI on the record.

Thankfully, I haven't had to make this decision myself.   :crossfingers:

Yeah, but some people can't lose their license.  This way I'd say the worst case scenario is that you are in jail for 8 hours or whatever, you pay a fine for drunk in public, then they let you go.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: CNS on May 11, 2011, 11:46:34 AM
Lawyer buddy told me a few years ago that if you have any possibility of failing, you should never submit to a test.  Never.

Said that if you refuse, they take your license for a year but that it won't damage your insurance or go on your record as a DUI.

If you fail a test, you still lose your license, get royally mumped on your insurance, and get a DUI on the record.

Thankfully, I haven't had to make this decision myself.   :crossfingers:

Yeah, but some people can't lose their license.  This way I'd say the worst case scenario is that you are in jail for 8 hours or whatever, you pay a fine for drunk in public, then they let you go.

Agreed on the public drunken charge being the absolute best possibility, but that seems pretty unlikely.

also, most people that lose their license are able to drive for work and school still on a restricted.  They issue you a piece of paper that says so, but take your actual license.  I know this because I know someone at KSU that pulled a check scheme at the mall immediately after getting a DUI.  Wrote a bunch of checks, used the piece of paper as ID, then reported check book stolen.  Boom, bank took care of the "fraud", she kept a bunch of free stuff, and she could still drive to work and school.   
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: 8manpick on May 11, 2011, 11:54:41 AM
also, most people that lose their license are able to drive for work and school still on a restricted.  They issue you a piece of paper that says so, but take your actual license.  I know this because I know someone at KSU that pulled a check scheme at the mall immediately after getting a DUI.  Wrote a bunch of checks, used the piece of paper as ID, then reported check book stolen.  Boom, bank took care of the "fraud", she kept a bunch of free stuff, and she could still drive to work and school.   

Hope it was all at Dillard's
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: jtksu on May 11, 2011, 01:45:07 PM
Curious what actually happened with that girl because KS does not allow for restricted driving privileges after a DUI.  Not to work, school, AA, etc.  Unless my probation officer, attorney, judge, etc were all just playing a joke on me...
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: CNS on May 11, 2011, 01:50:06 PM
Curious what actually happened with that girl because KS does not allow for restricted driving privileges after a DUI.  Not to work, school, AA, etc.  Unless my probation officer, attorney, judge, etc were all just playing a joke on me...

its been about ten years our more but I knew another person who actually got two dui's and didn't lose all driving rights until the second one.  same stitch after the first one, he got a paper license for work and school.  laws may have changed since then.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 11, 2011, 01:55:55 PM
Buddy of mine got pulled over in the parking lot at Tanner's on 119th after opening day at the K a couple years ago. He was trashed.  (female cop) had him get out of the car and sit on the sidewalk in front of Tanner's while she called in his junk and got things ready to test him.  My other buddies ran in and bought him three shots of rumple and a pitcher of beer.  They ran outside with the booze. he did three shots and was deep into the pitcher before the (fat ass female cop) tackled him spilling beer everywhere. 

It went to court.  The judge ripped the cop's ass for not cuffin him or putting him in the car.  The judge then ripped my buddy's ass for being a lucky little prick and gave him a ticket for speeding or noise or something like that. 

He got off.   :driving: :drink:
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: Johnny Wichita on May 11, 2011, 02:04:08 PM

Said that if you refuse, they take your license for a year


Not always the case.  Should definitely refuse. 
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 11, 2011, 02:21:59 PM
Had a buddy get pulled over leaving aggieville in the afternoon...he had drank a pitcher or so, plus a couple wells. The cop pulled him over for not wearing a seatbelt, but said that some people have been leaving aggieville drunk. So the cop asked if he would take a breathalyzer. Buddy said he would. Cop came back with his license and insurance, but said there was no need for a breathalyzer. :dunno:
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: jtksu on May 11, 2011, 02:24:29 PM
My attorney buddy told me to never refuse.  Said he can get me off on the DUI but can't do crap about the automatic loss of license deal.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: AppleJack on May 11, 2011, 02:24:54 PM
I remember reading the Collegian blotter in '99-'00 or so.... some hooker got pulled over for DUI at about 10pm. Aaaaaand then again at 4am, 6 hours later. I thought that was pretty neat at the time.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: jtksu on May 11, 2011, 02:27:05 PM
I got mine at like 1030 (pm), spent about 45 minutes in jail, had a buddy pick me up and went to Old Towm for a few more beers before last call.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: Johnny Wichita on May 11, 2011, 02:36:58 PM
My attorney buddy told me to never refuse.  Said he can get me off on the DUI but can't do crap about the automatic loss of license deal.


I got mine at like 1030 (pm), spent about 45 minutes in jail, had a buddy pick me up and went to Old Towm for a few more beers before last call.

So you got out of it? 
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: jtksu on May 11, 2011, 02:39:37 PM
Diversion.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 11, 2011, 03:20:17 PM
Grumblings that another MHS Ihnd (NOT SkinBen) was once given a DUI but the officer who arrested him couldn't testify against him because the cop was in the army reserves and got deployed to Afghanistan before the court date.





I bet that emaw was probably all (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F49%2F116990508_c357a6aae1.jpg&hash=00f9e444af53aca15b75d0b75a61a23a0345800d) after that.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: Cire on May 11, 2011, 07:53:53 PM
Ive always heard it's best to blow.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: pike on May 11, 2011, 08:01:06 PM
You really just have to  :cool: your way through it
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 11, 2011, 08:07:45 PM
You're pulled over, what do you do?

I say you keep two empties and one full can of beer in your car.  When you get pulled over, stop, turn your engine off, drop your keys out the window onto the ground so that the officer can clearly see you do it.  Pretend to pound the two already open beers.  Open and drink the remaining beer.  Hey, officer, prove I was drunk while I was driving.  Boom.

Would that work?  I think it would.

EDIT:  Of course, you'd probably get a drunk in public or something, but that is way better than a DUI.

This is a pretty incredible idea.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: HeinBallz on May 11, 2011, 08:42:26 PM
I've got a sure fire way to never get a DUI.



STOP DRIVING DRUNK ASSHOLES!!!!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 11, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
I've got a sure fire way to never get a DUI.



STOP DRIVING DRUNK ASSHOLES!!!!  :shakesfist:

Isn't .08 like 3 beers? The only people drunk after 3 beers are too young to drive anyway.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: pike on May 11, 2011, 08:52:19 PM
I've got a sure fire way to never get a DUI.



STOP DRIVING DRUNK ASSHOLES!!!!  :shakesfist:

People in todays age need to get from point A to point B....and sometimes you just happen to be drunk while doing so
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 11, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
You're pulled over, what do you do?

I say you keep two empties and one full can of beer in your car.  When you get pulled over, stop, turn your engine off, drop your keys out the window onto the ground so that the officer can clearly see you do it.  Pretend to pound the two already open beers.  Open and drink the remaining beer.  Hey, officer, prove I was drunk while I was driving.  Boom.

Would that work?  I think it would.

EDIT:  Of course, you'd probably get a drunk in public or something, but that is way better than a DUI.

This is a pretty incredible idea.

Umm, yeah it is.

To quote a line from one of my favorite movies,  "It's not what you know, it's what you can prove in court."

If you name that flick I'll tell you guys something that may or may not blow your mind.

Yeah, I know, it won't be very hard to figure out.  I mean.  www.google.com and stuff.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: jtksu on May 11, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
Devil's Advocate?
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: jtksu on May 11, 2011, 09:23:56 PM
If I can't drink and drive then how am I going to get to work?!  Huh?!
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: wetwillie on May 11, 2011, 09:26:14 PM
You're pulled over, what do you do?

I say you keep two empties and one full can of beer in your car.  When you get pulled over, stop, turn your engine off, drop your keys out the window onto the ground so that the officer can clearly see you do it.  Pretend to pound the two already open beers.  Open and drink the remaining beer.  Hey, officer, prove I was drunk while I was driving.  Boom.

Would that work?  I think it would.

EDIT:  Of course, you'd probably get a drunk in public or something, but that is way better than a DUI.

This is a pretty incredible idea.

Umm, yeah it is.

To quote a line from one of my favorite movies,  "It's not what you know, it's what you can prove in court."

If you name that flick I'll tell you guys something that may or may not blow your mind.

Yeah, I know, it won't be very hard to figure out.  I mean.  www.google.com and stuff.

Training Day is probably what you are looking for
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 11, 2011, 09:26:33 PM
Devil's Advocate?

Nope.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 11, 2011, 09:27:59 PM
Training Day is probably what you are looking for

Close.  That quote just stops at ". . . what you can prove."
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: wetwillie on May 11, 2011, 09:30:28 PM
Training Day is probably what you are looking for

Close.  That quote just stops at ". . . what you can prove."

So it was law abiding citizen then
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 11, 2011, 09:35:06 PM
Training Day is probably what you are looking for

Close.  That quote just stops at ". . . what you can prove."

So it was law abiding citizen then

Yes.

Prepare your minds, for they are about to be blown.  (or not)

In college football, how come the holder on an extra point is not down as soon as he catches the snap?
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: pike on May 11, 2011, 09:38:57 PM
Training Day is probably what you are looking for

Close.  That quote just stops at ". . . what you can prove."

So it was law abiding citizen then

Yes.

Prepare your minds, for they are about to be blown.  (or not)

In college football, how come the holder on an extra point is not down as soon as he catches the snap?

Cause it's god damn field goal
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 11, 2011, 09:39:58 PM
Training Day is probably what you are looking for

Close.  That quote just stops at ". . . what you can prove."

So it was law abiding citizen then

Yes.

Prepare your minds, for they are about to be blown.  (or not)

In college football, how come the holder on an extra point is not down as soon as he catches the snap?

Cause it's god damn field goal

What about on a fake?  :surprised:
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: pike on May 11, 2011, 09:40:46 PM
Training Day is probably what you are looking for

Close.  That quote just stops at ". . . what you can prove."

So it was law abiding citizen then

Yes.

Prepare your minds, for they are about to be blown.  (or not)

In college football, how come the holder on an extra point is not down as soon as he catches the snap?

Cause it's god damn field goal

What about on a fake?  :surprised:

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on May 11, 2011, 09:48:31 PM
Training Day is probably what you are looking for

Close.  That quote just stops at ". . . what you can prove."

So it was law abiding citizen then

Yes.

Prepare your minds, for they are about to be blown.  (or not)

In college football, how come the holder on an extra point is not down as soon as he catches the snap?

Because he hasn't been touched by an opposing player (down by contact).  :driving:
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: jtksu on May 11, 2011, 09:51:10 PM
Down by contact is an NFL rule.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: Benja on May 11, 2011, 11:27:57 PM
Training Day is probably what you are looking for

Close.  That quote just stops at ". . . what you can prove."

So it was law abiding citizen then

Yes.

Prepare your minds, for they are about to be blown.  (or not)

In college football, how come the holder on an extra point is not down as soon as he catches the snap?

Cause it's god damn field goal

What about on a fake?  :surprised:

because the way you said would be dumb. boom roasted headshot.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: HeinBallz on May 11, 2011, 11:34:32 PM
because he doesn't technically have possession of the ball until he tucks it? :dunno:
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: KSUBrian on May 12, 2011, 12:06:05 AM
Only time I got pulled over I blew a 0.00.  Of course the empty case in the back of my SUV and drunk nephew that smelled like a brewery in the back seat got me the privilege of performing roadside Olympics when I wasn't drunk.

I have heard a similar strategy where you keep a vodka bottle with water in it in the car and chug it in view of the officer when they approach the car.  Also heard that if you belch or hiccup in front of the officer they can't do the breathalyzer for like 30 minutes.  Don't know if these work, but if I could belch on command, I would try it out.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: 0.42 on May 12, 2011, 12:08:12 AM
Grumblings that another MHS Ihnd (NOT SkinBen) was once given a DUI but the officer who arrested him couldn't testify against him because the cop was in the army reserves and got deployed to Afghanistan before the court date.





I bet that emaw was probably all (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F49%2F116990508_c357a6aae1.jpg&hash=00f9e444af53aca15b75d0b75a61a23a0345800d) after that.

 :horrorsurprise:

BSAC, get on the case!
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: KITNfury on May 12, 2011, 08:06:45 AM
Training Day is probably what you are looking for

Close.  That quote just stops at ". . . what you can prove."

So it was law abiding citizen then

Yes.

Prepare your minds, for they are about to be blown.  (or not)

In college football, how come the holder on an extra point is not down as soon as he catches the snap?
Also why not intentional grounding when a QB spikes the ball.

in the tackle box? Check
no receivers around? Check
ball never cross LOS? Check

Also, chugging alcohol when pulled over is an old idea, but never heard of someone brave enough to do it. Sounds like you would get penalized for something, but you should be able to get off in court with a decent lawyer.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 12, 2011, 08:12:46 AM
Also why not intentional grounding when a QB spikes the ball.

in the tackle box? Check
no receivers around? Check
ball never cross LOS? Check

There's almost always a TE, WR, or a RB within 5 yards.  If there isn't, then they seem to be wasting time getting into a 5 wide formation and deserve to be penalized.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: KITNfury on May 12, 2011, 08:22:09 AM
Also why not intentional grounding when a QB spikes the ball.

in the tackle box? Check
no receivers around? Check
ball never cross LOS? Check

There's almost always a TE, WR, or a RB within 5 yards.  If there isn't, then they seem to be wasting time getting into a 5 wide formation and deserve to be penalized.
So it can be safely assumed that he was making an attempt at completion?
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: Cire on May 12, 2011, 08:25:28 AM
It's an effing rule.  It is ok to spike, it is ok for a holder to have a knee on the ground.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: Ira Hayes on May 12, 2011, 09:34:37 AM
What happens if you just say: "I want to talk to my lawyer first?" 

I know a guy that got a DUI when he jumped in his car, put the keys in the ignition and then passed out without starting the car so I'm skeptical about the slamming beers after the cop pulls you over trick.  Not sure if he tried to fight it or just took the diversion.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 12, 2011, 09:39:51 AM
What happens if you just say: "I want to talk to my lawyer first?" 

I know a guy that got a DUI when he jumped in his car, put the keys in the ignition and then passed out without starting the car so I'm skeptical about the slamming beers after the cop pulls you over trick.  Not sure if he tried to fight it or just took the diversion.

That's why you throw the keys out of the car first.  Man, you rubes will never be able to pull this off.
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2011, 09:43:11 AM
What happens if you just say: "I want to talk to my lawyer first?"  

You can't.  You don't have the right to speak to an attorney until after you've been placed into custody.  You have to cooperate with the Police Officer during his initial investigation of the potential crime.

I know a guy that got a DUI when he jumped in his car, put the keys in the ignition and then passed out without starting the car so I'm skeptical about the slamming beers after the cop pulls you over trick.  Not sure if he tried to fight it or just took the diversion.

The cop has to actually witness the person slamming the alcohol and have evidence at the scene.  Simply passing out at the wheel before actually driving anywhere, while admirable, is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Drinking and Driving.
Post by: pissclams on May 12, 2011, 09:44:11 AM
FWIW I've heard of this tactic working in some limited situs.