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Title: not good..(The U)
Post by: The Manhatter on April 18, 2011, 10:43:38 PM
they return about as much starting experience on both their offensive and defensive lines as possible by a college team.

The current 2nd string LT is former #2 player in nation and started 10 games as a freshman in 2010.

+ return 6 starts at RT

+ The LG, C, and RG all started every game last season.

= 54 starts last season among their current post-spring depth chart on the OL



That doesn't even take into account their QB who will likely be a 4th year starter next season.

The interior DL each started every game and their DE's both started games last season.

This is a Miami team that outgained it's opponents by nearly 100 ypg last season but turned the ball over recklessly. It is a very talented team with a great deal of experience in areas where it is highly valued.

 :runaway:
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: pike on April 18, 2011, 10:47:36 PM
Great. We can't pressure a bad offense with no experience, let alone this iron curtain. Sounds like they should have no trouble putting up 60 or 70
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2011, 10:59:16 PM
they return about as much starting experience on both their offensive and defensive lines as possible by a college team.

The current 2nd string LT is former #2 player in nation and started 10 games as a freshman in 2010.

+ return 6 starts at RT

+ The LG, C, and RG all started every game last season.

= 54 starts last season among their current post-spring depth chart on the OL



That doesn't even take into account their QB who will likely be a 4th year starter next season.

The interior DL each started every game and their DE's both started games last season.

This is a Miami team that outgained it's opponents by nearly 100 ypg last season but turned the ball over recklessly. It is a very talented team with a great deal of experience in areas where it is highly valued.

 :runaway:

Yes, but how much of that advantage will be negated by two things: LHC Bill Snyder vs. Al Golden, and the fact that this will be the third game for the Canes under said coach?

I feel good about this one.  I favor KSU to be completely honest with you.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on April 19, 2011, 05:30:12 AM
Gonna suck even more when the camera's keep showing Frank on the sideline in his Miami gear and all.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 19, 2011, 05:40:25 AM
cannot wait for this one.

i hope the humidity and dry wind doesn't bother the cats.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: Cire on April 19, 2011, 06:04:41 AM
I could have told you we are going to be prison raped without the research
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: chum1 on April 19, 2011, 06:10:54 AM
our savior, arty brown, was buried on their depth chart.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: KITNfury on April 19, 2011, 06:20:30 AM
I hope it's close.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2011, 07:34:12 AM
Good breakdown, The Manhatter.  I didn't realize "The U" had good players.  Also, keep in mind Cosh will really have coached up the defense a lot better than the one that gave up +/- 1000 yards in its final two games to North Texas and Rutgers.



Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 19, 2011, 07:55:29 AM
Good breakdown, The Manhatter.  I didn't realize "The U" had good players.  Also, keep in mind Cosh will really have coached up the defense a lot better than the one that gave up +/- 1000 yards in its final two games to North Texas and Rutgers.





wut
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: Iceberg on April 19, 2011, 08:28:17 AM
We may not play sound defense, but we do take advantage of turnover teams. See Texas
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: wabash909 on April 19, 2011, 08:46:22 AM
Good breakdown, The Manhatter.  I didn't realize "The U" had good players.  Also, keep in mind Cosh will really have coached up the defense a lot better than the one that gave up +/- 1000 yards in its final two games to North Texas and Rutgers.


wut

'Cuse. 

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: Winters on April 19, 2011, 09:42:34 AM
Dwyane Wade will be cheering for a 'cat victory!
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: MadCat on April 19, 2011, 10:43:41 AM
We're going to need a lot of pushups.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: felix rex on April 19, 2011, 11:50:11 AM
Good chance I'll be at this game. I will yell extra hard when we're on defense.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 19, 2011, 02:49:40 PM
Good chance I'll be at this game. I will yell extra hard when we're on defense.

This. 

Jacory will absolutely destroy our D.  Like comically bad.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: felix rex on April 19, 2011, 02:51:34 PM
Good chance I'll be at this game. I will yell extra hard when we're on defense.

This. 

Jacory will absolutely destroy our D.  Like comically bad.

I'll try and say something mean about his shoes and get in his head early.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: MeatSauce on April 19, 2011, 03:06:17 PM
THis will be our "God dammit, we should have beaten that incredibly mediocre but talented team" game of 2011. see 2009 vs UCLA and 2010 vs Baylor. :blah:
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: W.Churchill on April 19, 2011, 07:23:54 PM
Miami's starting lineup averages almost four stars.  Al Golden is the next Bob Stoops.  He took Temple to a bowl!  TEMPLE!
Title: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: W.Churchill on June 06, 2011, 10:25:50 AM
Miami's OL listed as Steele's fifth best unit......KSU not among top forty listed
Miami's DL listed as Steele's seventh best unit.......KSU not among top 37 listed

This probably isn't a good thing.
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: steve dave on June 06, 2011, 10:28:38 AM
we gameplan this thing to completely take the front lines out of it.  you think LHCBS hasn't thought of that? 
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: Winters on June 06, 2011, 10:31:53 AM
Miami's DL listed as Steele's seventh best unit.......KSU not among top 37 listed
So does that mean we are 38th? Cause I'll take that and run!
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: AbeFroman on June 06, 2011, 10:41:34 AM
Yeah, but do they have a Coach Snyder?

We have two
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 06, 2011, 10:43:15 AM
Yeah, but do they have a Coach Snyder?

We have two

 :lol:
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: The Manhatter on June 06, 2011, 10:44:50 AM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12649.msg278914
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: Winters on June 06, 2011, 10:46:15 AM
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12649.msg278914
Are you saying your Phil Steele?  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: KITNfury on June 06, 2011, 10:48:19 AM
We're gonna get owned.
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 06, 2011, 10:50:11 AM
How much did Miami have to pay us for this win?
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: steve dave on June 06, 2011, 10:51:20 AM
How much did Miami have to pay us for this win?

we get a comeback game so almost certainly nothing
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: KITNfury on June 06, 2011, 10:58:50 AM
How much did Miami have to pay us for this win?

we get a comeback game so almost certainly nothing
They won't come back. By then OB will have the machine up and running just like the DoD V1.0, they will be too scared.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: The Manhatter on June 06, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
watched some of the Miami @ tOSU game from last year on the Big 10 channel last week.  I was shitting my drawers....Miami's OL was pretty dominating over what was a damn good Buckeye front 7.  Miami would move the ball between the 20s and then JaCorey would throw a pick.  Their OL and DL will not be very nice to us.  Funny thing is that Nole and Gator fan make fun of cane fan for their "lack of depth" on DL...we will not make fun of cane fan.
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: felix rex on June 06, 2011, 11:02:07 AM
How much did Miami have to pay us for this win?

we get a comeback game so almost certainly nothing

Maybe they'll buy it out like Auburn probably will? We should use those funds to pay the Prince settlement.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: wetwillie on June 06, 2011, 11:02:41 AM
If a slaughter happens in a land thousands of miles away and you don't hear it or see it, did it ever happen?
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: Trim on June 06, 2011, 11:03:47 AM
we will not make fun of cane fan.

We might, but it certainly won't be for anything related to how good their football team is.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: MadCat on June 06, 2011, 11:11:19 AM
I hope the new coach tries to implement a new offense/defense that does not capitalize on the strength of their lines.
Title: Re: Miami game up front per Phil Steele
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 06, 2011, 11:16:28 AM
How much did Miami have to pay us for this win?

we get a comeback game so almost certainly nothing

 :dubious:
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: The Manhatter on June 06, 2011, 12:04:07 PM
this ought to give you a pretty good indication of what to expect from Miami's run game since all of these OL and Miller return.

Miami run game vs. quality opponent in '10: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h86OxhKpg8k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h86OxhKpg8k)

Miller KO return vs. tOSU: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTSeYs215o8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTSeYs215o8&feature=related)
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: KITNfury on June 06, 2011, 12:08:32 PM
So if we somehow pull out a win (not counting on it), how much should I adjust my expectations for the year?
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: The Manhatter on June 06, 2011, 12:13:05 PM
So if we somehow pull out a win (not counting on it), how much should I adjust my expectations for the year?

normally I would say not to adjust them too much since it would be an early game for a new coach.  In this case I think Miami has sooooo much experience returning and enough playmaking ability that an early road win there would be a pretty good indicator we have a good team.  That being said, I think the chances of our winning this game is slim to none and slim didn't just leave town..he moved away 4 or 5 years ago.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: felix rex on June 06, 2011, 01:11:10 PM
Are we going to be the only secondary to not pick off Jacory Harris?
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: Skipper44 on June 06, 2011, 02:40:58 PM
Well, they are at Maryland to open, then host tOSU before we hit SoBe, maybe the new staff will already be underwater by then :pray:
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: CHONGS on June 06, 2011, 03:06:05 PM
If we beat Miami I will be super duper pumped
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: KITNfury on June 06, 2011, 03:08:18 PM
If we beat Miami I will be super duper pumped
I'll be uber pumped, which I believe is about 9% more pumped than super duper pumped.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: Branson Bound on June 06, 2011, 04:55:35 PM
Our kids are farm raised and tough. Miami's kids are going to spend the whole summer on the beach. That's how we will win.
Title: Re: not good..(The U)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 06, 2011, 06:33:28 PM
Our kids are farm raised and tough. Miami's kids are going to spend the whole summer on the beach. That's how we will win.

I would definitely laugh at this sock if only it weren't so accurate for so many K-State fans.   :flush: