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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: fatty fat fat on April 09, 2011, 02:09:47 AM
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nothing major or anything but ive heard some things on the following players:
Bryce-was told hes a "freak" just blown away with his speed, size, and athletic ability
Arthur-one word...STUD!
Harold-looks healthier then a year ago
Meshak- he might be listed on the roster as 231, but i was told this kid looks bigger then that listed weight. I asked my guy how big he thought he looked, he thought 240+ (In my opinion Meshak might be a "lighter" type DE but hes gonna play bigger then his listed weight on the roster)
Tuggle-looks good and is physically a big dude!
Demarcus Robinson-looks solid
Harper looks much better then a year ago at WR
Finally BJ Finney looks like he may be fighting for playing time.
CATS
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Thank you el diablo
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Love these, Love My Wild Wild Cats!
Geaux Kazzuuuuu
ROLL CatZ
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back to base 4-3 Snyds tired of getting rocked by the run. Figured the next thing after intense physical pain after screw ups and hiring a new secondary coach, is to change schemes. (i don't think it matters if the same dipshit is running things)
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Encouraging to keep hearing positive evaluations of Tuggle.
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Encouraging to keep hearing positive evaluations of Tuggle.
yes, may just cause me to "tuggle" my preseason predictions for the cats. :D
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I haven't heard anything but positives for Tuggle.. Seems like he's fitting in, too. My source said Bryce didn't show for one 7 on 7 all off season, while Demarcus made all of them.. But he told me yesterday that Bryce has really turned it on so far in the spring.. Similar to harp last year (except he didn't turn it on till fall practices). Arthur meanwhile has been non-stop dedication.
Back to Tuggle, Really strong arm.. Very accurate and has good feel of reading routes and hitting receivers on time. Can make the tough throws too with good touch. Also, like Fatty said, surprisingly big. Really quick first few steps but doesn't max out with a lot of speed.
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I haven't heard anything but positives for Tuggle.. Seems like he's fitting in, too. My source said Bryce didn't show for one 7 on 7 all off season, while Demarcus made all of them.. But he told me yesterday that Bryce has really turned it on so far in the spring.. Similar to harp last year (except he didn't turn it on till fall practices). Arthur meanwhile has been non-stop dedication.
Back to Tuggle, Really strong arm.. Very accurate and has good feel of reading routes and hitting receivers on time. Can make the tough throws too with good touch. Also, like Fatty said, surprisingly big. Really quick first few steps but doesn't max out with a lot of speed.
If a Carson Coffman led K-State can put up 33 points a game, then a Justin Tuggle led K-State can probably do 40. Bill is an offensive wizard, and everyone who isn't a deprecating Snyd's hater is well aware of that. Now, if we could only do something about the defense... :firecoshbanner:
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Interesting to hear that about Tuggle because all the anti-tugites we saying he was inaccurate and did not have a strong arm. Hmm.
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Interesting to hear that about Tuggle because all the anti-tugites we saying he was inaccurate and did not have a strong arm. Hmm.
fwiw, the ksu coaches thought this too until he got to campus and started working out.
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What a relief to have so many legitimately connected people on goEMAW.com.
Thanks, all!
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I thought the Tuggle concern was that he was an FP when it came to contact :dunno:
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Interesting to hear that about Tuggle because all the anti-tugites we saying he was inaccurate and did not have a strong arm. Hmm.
I never heard arm strength as an excuse. I did hear accuracy and decision making.
I always thought that we were going to go back to a Beasley style offensive philosophy where Tuggle would run a lot for short-to-medium gains and throw a lot of deep balls (hoping that YPC was high enough to offset a low completion percentage).
I still think that's how it's going to go. I highly doubt we see a lot of medium distance routes this year. However, the one thing Tuggle will be able to do is throw the ball deep enough to put it on the table as a weapon. We'll still throw a crap ton of out routes and curls to the outside, but unlike CCQ, we'll throw it deep several times a game to keep the defense honest and maybe score a cheap TD or two if they're sleeping.
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Going to be a lot of Tuggle hate on the board this season when he can't live up to the unreasonable expectations that have been heaped upon him.
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Interesting to hear that about Tuggle because all the anti-tugites we saying he was inaccurate and did not have a strong arm. Hmm.
Compared to... Freeman and Bishop, yeah not as strong. But for a D-1 quarterback I would guess it's average at worst. Definitely better than Carson.
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we'll need to score 50 pts a game to have a chance at a .500 record....rough ridin' cosh
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Harper looks much better then a year ago at WR
Look for Pinstripe like Harper in '11. :D
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How many pushups do you guys think the team has done this spring?
I bet it's a lot.
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My source says Tate is displaying a lot of 5 heart ability :ksu:
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My source says Tate is displaying a lot of 5 heart ability :ksu:
I think tate's actually good. doesn't change the fact that it is rough ridin' disgrace we have him on scholly.
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If Hrebec sees the field as a starter I'm going to :barf:
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I can't wait to hear award-winning broadcaster Wyatt say, "It's Tuggle at the toggle . . . "
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If Hrebec sees the field as a starter I'm going to :barf:
If we move to the 4-3, I'm betting he starts at Mike. Arthur at Will and Childs or Walker at Sam.
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Interesting to hear that about Tuggle because all the anti-tugites we saying he was inaccurate and did not have a strong arm. Hmm.
I never heard arm strength as an excuse. I did hear accuracy and decision making.
I always thought that we were going to go back to a Beasley style offensive philosophy where Tuggle would run a lot for short-to-medium gains and throw a lot of deep balls (hoping that YPC was high enough to offset a low completion percentage).
I still think that's how it's going to go. I highly doubt we see a lot of medium distance routes this year. However, the one thing Tuggle will be able to do is throw the ball deep enough to put it on the table as a weapon. We'll still throw a cac ton of out routes and curls to the outside, but unlike CCQ, we'll throw it deep several times a game to keep the defense honest and maybe score a cheap TD or two if they're sleeping.
I'd like to agree, but do we really have that many options of guys that have legitimate 'stretch-the-field' speed?
Don't get me wrong, we have some solid receivers, but I can't think of any burners in the mix that can get open by just running vertical routes.
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I feel sorry for Tuggle. He will never be able to live up to the lofty expectations set forth by our fans. Everyone expects him to obliterate Carson's performance last year, and Carson might end up on an NFL roster.
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Interesting to hear that about Tuggle because all the anti-tugites we saying he was inaccurate and did not have a strong arm. Hmm.
I never heard arm strength as an excuse. I did hear accuracy and decision making.
I always thought that we were going to go back to a Beasley style offensive philosophy where Tuggle would run a lot for short-to-medium gains and throw a lot of deep balls (hoping that YPC was high enough to offset a low completion percentage).
I still think that's how it's going to go. I highly doubt we see a lot of medium distance routes this year. However, the one thing Tuggle will be able to do is throw the ball deep enough to put it on the table as a weapon. We'll still throw a cac ton of out routes and curls to the outside, but unlike CCQ, we'll throw it deep several times a game to keep the defense honest and maybe score a cheap TD or two if they're sleeping.
I'd like to agree, but do we really have that many options of guys that have legitimate 'stretch-the-field' speed?
Don't get me wrong, we have some solid receivers, but I can't think of any burners in the mix that can get open by just running vertical routes.
Not all deep routes are vertical, and just having the threat to run them opens up the run game and short passing game. That said, just like last year, the defense will be the problem with this year's team.
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Not all deep routes are vertical, and just having the threat to run them opens up the run game and short passing game. That said, just like last year, the defense will be the problem with this year's team.
Yeah, I realize that, but it seems that typically when Snyder chooses to throw deep, it's more often than not a vertical route. Maybe he'll adjust to different types of deep routes.
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
Keep it coming Lick!!! :excited:
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
How dare you post non-superstar-like info during the spring?!?! How are we ever going to obtain the 2011 Smoke candidates with non-glorious info such as this?
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
How dare you post non-superstar-like info during the spring?!?! How are we ever going to obtain the 2011 Smoke candidates with non-glorious info such as this?
This seemed like pretty good info to me :dunno:
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Possible positive:
The fb groupies who hang out at the union are better looking this year than last year at this point in time.
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
Presuming Klein is running with the ones?
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
Presuming Klein is running with the ones?
What was that other info we had that said Klein had moved to WR full time? And I'm not surprised he's running with the ones, Tuggs has only been on campus a short period of time.
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cardboard cutout of sams running with the ones?
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
This.
and by not overwhelmingly impressive he means "Tuggle is a shitty passer." Probably 2nd worst on the roster.
If Sams comes in and impresses, he has a chance to be our guy this year, nobody else is running away with it.
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How does Sam Lamur look?
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
If Sams comes in and impresses, he has a chance to be our guy this year, nobody else is running away with it.
:drool:
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
This.
and by not overwhelmingly impressive he means "Tuggle is a shitty passer." Probably 2nd worst on the roster.
If Sams comes in and impresses, he has a chance to be our guy this year, nobody else is running away with it.
Back to Tuggle, Really strong arm.. Very accurate and has good feel of reading routes and hitting receivers on time. Can make the tough throws too with good touch.
One of you is either lying or just a horrible judge of football ability.
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
This.
and by not overwhelmingly impressive he means "Tuggle is a shitty passer." Probably 2nd worst on the roster.
If Sams comes in and impresses, he has a chance to be our guy this year, nobody else is running away with it.
Back to Tuggle, Really strong arm.. Very accurate and has good feel of reading routes and hitting receivers on time. Can make the tough throws too with good touch.
One of you is either lying or just a horrible judge of football ability.
It's DoDRepeat. I know this because his user name is DoDRepeat.
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Has anybody heard whether or not we are going to see the Tecmo Bowl offense next year?
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Seems like DoDrepeat gets his info from players? Not sure if I trust some videographer's opinion. Also, I bet okcat is super butthurt that he wasn't given that honor.
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Seems like DoDrepeat gets his info from players? Not sure if I trust some videographer's opinion. Also, I bet okcat is super butthurt that he wasn't given that honor.
Players are horrible evaluators of talent. They always think their teammates are the best they've ever seen at whatever position.
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
Presuming Klein is running with the ones?
What was that other info we had that said Klein had moved to WR full time? And I'm not surprised he's running with the ones, Tuggs has only been on campus a short period of time.
I believe it was some third rate website that had Klein at WR. I hadn't read it anywhere else.
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
Presuming Klein is running with the ones?
What was that other info we had that said Klein had moved to WR full time? And I'm not surprised he's running with the ones, Tuggs has only been on campus a short period of time.
I believe it was some third rate website that had Klein at WR. I hadn't read it anywhere else.
I thought it was a quote from Sams.
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Seems like DoDrepeat gets his info from players? Not sure if I trust some videographer's opinion. Also, I bet okcat is super butthurt that he wasn't given that honor.
Players are horrible evaluators of talent. They always think their teammates are the best they've ever seen at whatever position.
This could be true.. I haven't seen him in person, just info from a few players.
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
Presuming Klein is running with the ones?
What was that other info we had that said Klein had moved to WR full time?
Manbeck reported that. :facepalm:
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Tuggle seems to be mostly working with the 2's arm strength and accuracy are not overwhelmingly impressive
E. Lamur at will Arthur at Mike Walker at Sam
How dare you post non-superstar-like info during the spring?!?! How are we ever going to obtain the 2011 Smoke candidates with non-glorious info such as this?
This seemed like pretty good info to me :dunno:
I was referring to the info on Tuggle.
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Seems like DoDrepeat gets his info from players? Not sure if I trust some videographer's opinion. Also, I bet okcat is super butthurt that he wasn't given that honor.
Players are horrible evaluators of talent. They always think their teammates are the best they've ever seen at whatever position.
Which is exactly why we rarely hear negative info this time of year. Everyone is all american capable during spring ball.
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How is Sean doing as a coach?
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* Tanner Burns and Nigel Malone appear that they will be providing much needed depth to the secondary
* Meshak looks explosive but a little light (could be a problem in the run game)
* Adam Davis looks like he had to lay around for a year while recovering from back surgery
*Torell Miller looks like he could possibly make an impact at WR.
Looks to the future
Currie Sexton looks like a player, prolly isn't ready to produce yet but a kid to keep an eye on
Kyle Kelin seems to have bulked up significantly and could become a player in the future
Taters gonna Tate - looks like he has bulked up as well could be a special teams contributor
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great scoops lickneckey
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How is Sean doing as a coach?
not important. the only thing that matters is how he is doing as a son.
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Thank you, LickNeckey.
We are interested in your information.
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Someone named Scott on www.rivals.com says we are an extremely athletic football team thanks to Chris Harper and Bryce Brown.
By reading the words, it seems as though they'll be fun to watch play football on the football field.
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I've heard Curry Sexton has a good head on his shoulders. He'd be playing at an Ivy League school if he wasn't as talented as he is. Can't remember which he had an offer from.
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No athletic scholarships in the Ivy League.
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No athletic scholarships in the Ivy League.
Academic scholarship, hence the good head on shoulders comment.
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Despite all of the discussion of three QB race my guess is that it is really a two horse race. Lamur will not be a ble to make pre-snap adjustments which will keep him out of the competition long term.
my guess is that the satff hopes tuggle will quit throwing skip passes and take the job but Klein and his noodle arm are probably in the drivers seat.
*Simon is short but has really long arms and will prolly be starting center
*#49 a 5'4" - 5'6" running back looks impressive not listed in the roster but definitely getting reps and return work
* safeties appear to be Zimmerman and Hartman with Burns running with the 2's
* hope Adam Davis pans out but he looks fat and slow right now
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* Adam Davis looks like he had to lay around for a year while recovering from back surgery
*Torell Miller looks like he could possibly make an impact at WR.
Looks to the future
Currie Sexton looks like a player, prolly isn't ready to produce yet but a kid to keep an eye on
Kyle Kelin seems to have bulked up significantly and could become a player in the future
thanks for the updates. Disappointed to hear that on davis. do you know if, when he had surgery, they accidentally lopped off a foot? he looked quicker than crap in jc. torell miller emergence would be nice. his coach said Miami was "begging me (the coach) to fax Miller's transcript" because they learned of him late. Sexton sounds like a "character" kid. Would like to see Klein move to Sam LB. a depth group of Walker, Klein, and Moore there over the next few years might be warm and fuzzy.
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thank lickneckey
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Despite all of the discussion of three QB race my guess is that it is really a two horse race. Lamur will not be a ble to make pre-snap adjustments which will keep him out of the competition long term.
my guess is that the satff hopes tuggle will quit throwing skip passes and take the job but Klein and his noodle arm are probably in the drivers seat.
*Simon is short but has really long arms and will prolly be starting center
*#49 a 5'4" - 5'6" running back looks impressive not listed in the roster but definitely getting reps and return work
* safeties appear to be Zimmerman and Hartman with Burns running with the 2's
* hope Adam Davis pans out but he looks fat and slow right now
think the short running back is robert rose
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Rose is listed as #28. What if it's Bubba??!!
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Rose is listed as 28 early speculation was Ryan Smith????
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Can one of the mods use their deep media conections to clarify this issue for us? TIA.
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And who the eff is Ryan Smith?
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Who is replacing all world senior Danny Hogan at WR this year? Trashed the record books, big shoes to fill.
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How bout Simi Kuli could sure use him on the DL
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Thank again triple F :lynchmob:
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Rose is listed as 28 early speculation was Ryan Smith????
Of St. Thomas Aquinas (OP) fame?! :surprised:
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Sexton sounds like a "character" kid.
:opcat:
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Sexton is suprisingly athletic and stood out regardless of gpa or character
this is one place where a Wes Welker style of play comparison is fitting. no :opcat:
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Sexton is suprisingly athletic and stood out regardless of gpa or character
this is one place where a Wes Welker style of play comparison is fitting. no :opcat:
The Patriots Way.
(Which is kinda :opcat:)
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Sexton is suprisingly athletic and stood out regardless of gpa or character
this is one place where a Wes Welker style of play comparison is fitting. no :opcat:
any more info on Torell Miller to add to the "could be an impact at receiver" comment? i'd love to hear you say this kid came out of nowhere and is the next justin blackmon. i know you won't but can you just pretend?
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would need a qb to be blackmonesque we just have big strong athletes
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Nigel Malone, Cornerback on Bryce Brown.
When asked if Bryce was really that fast, 4.32 40 etc.
"Yeah bro..he real... dudes a man child"
April 30th, the prodical son has returned.
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Nigel Malone, Cornerback on Bryce Brown.
When asked if Bryce was really that fast, 4.32 40 etc.
"Yeah bro..he real... dudes a man child"
April 30th, the prodical son has returned.
anything about how many pushups he can knockout?
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Allen Chapman, Cornerback on Bryce Brown.
When asked if Bryce was really that fast, 4.32 40 etc.
"Yeah bro..he real... dudes a man child"
April 30th, the prodical son has returned.
anything about how many pushups he can knockout?
No. But he said that Nigel Malone is better than David Garrett.
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Chris Harper looks like he's 30....and damn sexy.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvmedia.rivals.com%2Fuploads%2F889%2F936025.gif&hash=8e92404565cc04bcf80a72278858087c1311a0f0)
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Rose is listed as 28 early speculation was Ryan Smith????
Of St. Thomas Aquinas (OP) fame?! :surprised:
He played at GCCC in 2008, so unless he had some redshirt seasons, I'm not sure how he could be eligible.
http://www.kjccc.org/football/08/POW/pow_O_8.html
But after some more studying, #49 is a Ryan Smith, not sure where from though.
Flip to page six of the Spring Prospectus, in the alphabetical listing on the right. The bio section of the prospectus doesn't have a bio for him.
http://issuu.com/k-statesports/docs/spring_guide
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Funny how Harp goes from a complete thug to complete stud with the press. Last time I saw him at the rec playing basketball with brod/bryce/others he couldn't miss against a whole bunch of white boys. After destroying them he instructed one of them to "get the eff off my court. there's a seat right there for you"
I was all :emawkid:
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Funny how Harp goes from a complete thug to complete stud with the press. Last time I saw him at the rec playing basketball with brod/bryce/others he couldn't miss against a whole bunch of white boys. After destroying them he instructed one of them to "get the eff off my court. there's a seat right there for you"
I was all :emawkid:
omg (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FThemes%2Fsmfone_multicolour%2Fimages%2Fpost%2Fthumbup.gif&hash=a74272c013bc1268d460866bac89e54e65821d3a)
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Funny how Harp goes from a complete thug to complete stud with the press. Last time I saw him at the rec playing basketball with brod/bryce/others he couldn't miss against a whole bunch of white boys. After destroying them he instructed one of them to "get the eff off my court. there's a seat right there for you"
I was all :emawkid:
This is fantastic.
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I've heard Curry Sexton has a good head on his shoulders. He'd be playing at an Ivy League school if he wasn't as talented as he is. Can't remember which he had an offer from.
Harvard :gocho: