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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: asava on April 05, 2011, 03:04:56 PM
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Any word on this? Should have started about an hour ago.
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Joshua_Kinder Joshua Kinder
Daniel Thomas ran the 40 one time due to right quad tightness. Came in at 4.60. #KState #NFL
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Joshua_Kinder Joshua Kinder
Daniel Thomas ran the 40 one time due to right quad tightness. Came in at 4.60. #KState #NFL
Uhgg.
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he's had a pretty bad offseason.
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even with this nagging injury, whatever the hell it is, i haven't read one article that mentions durability issues. also I am completely confused as to why McShay thinks he is more of a finesse runner. looks like his stock is slipping past the 3rd, especially with his inability to protect the ball.
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Good job Daniel Thomas Clayton.
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Good job Daniel Thomas Clayton.
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anyone actually surprised at that 40 time?
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anyone actually surprised at that 40 time?
figured it would've been slower
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apparently today steadied his stock, fwiw.
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Some team will get a later round steal there.
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reports of scouts clocking him anywhere from 4.59 to 4.61
interesting takes on this board as that was considered good news for thomas. Scouts figured him to possibly be in the 4.7 range. I believe the big back from Oregon last year that led NFL rookie rushers ran a 4.7 or 4.8 last year.
Ingram, 4.62
LeShoure, 4.59
Williams, 4.56
today was good news.
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apparently today steadied his stock, fwiw.
where does that put him?
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apparently today steadied his stock, fwiw.
where does that put him?
he'll go in the first 3 rounds. He's a top 5 RB on all boards. He's the #2 RB on Mike Mayock's board and has a 2nd round grade.
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he always seemed slow. glad our new rb is faster, more fluid and stronger. just less experienced.
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he always seemed slow. glad our new rb is faster, more fluid and stronger. just less experienced.
you disappoint me...fb iq on this board is slipping. this thread is exhibit A.
only thing lacking from Thomas' game is home run speed and that is something many great backs do not possess.
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he always seemed slow. glad our new rb is faster, more fluid and stronger. just less experienced.
you disappoint me...fb iq on this board is slipping. this thread is exhibit A.
only thing lacking from Thomas' game is home run speed and that is something many great backs do not possess.
is this the "speed" thing on madden vs the "quickness" thing?
in tennis, you don't have to be fast, just quick. but i'm sure you already knew that mr. genius.
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he always seemed slow. glad our new rb is faster, more fluid and stronger. just less experienced.
you disappoint me...fb iq on this board is slipping. this thread is exhibit A.
only thing lacking from Thomas' game is home run speed and that is something many great backs do not possess.
is this the "speed" thing on madden vs the "quickness" thing?
in tennis, you don't have to be fast, just quick. but i'm sure you already knew that mr. genius.
pretty much the case for both tennis and football. Fast helps but quick is always better. He's a big back and has more than enough burst and agility to make plays carrying the ball.
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fb iq on this board is slipping
only thing lacking from Thomas' game is home run speed
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apparently today steadied his stock, fwiw.
where does that put him?
he'll go in the first 3 rounds. He's a top 5 RB on all boards. He's the #2 RB on Mike Mayock's board and has a 2nd round grade.
so pretty much what every body was saying last week. McShay seemed to make a huge deal out of his 7 fumbles during his junior year and thought he may be going beyond the 3rd.
any other word on other times? i can't find anything other than that he was "solid."
only article i could find on it...
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-04-05/kansas-state-running-back-daniel-thomas-has-mixed-results-at-pro-day
doesn't look like he's going to be moving up or down. found a lot of articles and forum posts on pro team fan sites explaining why they should take him. anywhere from the detroit lions to the Giants to the Patriots. Would love to see him go to a team like the Pats and have an opportunity to succeed while he can still function as an effective back.
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glad our new rb is faster, more fluid and stronger. just less experienced.
fatty, sorry. Bryce is a player I'm really looking forward to as well. He is definitely faster and a vertical threat to score both as a runner and receiver. The primary reason he was ranked as the top RB by rivals over 'Bama signee Richardson is his ability as a receiver. Tennessee used him well as a receiver though not as much as they probably would have liked. Daniel was awfully fluid for a big back and I'm not suggesting Bryce isn't but until we see him on the field that is a hard comparison. I do think Bryce is the real deal. Also looking forward to DeMarcus Robinson. I just hope we can get a competent interior OL next season. Oh, and I hope Snyder utilizes the resource he has in Sams and gets some snaps out of him as a receiver next season. I do want him at QB but you can't redshirt a playmaker like that. There is a reason schools like Miami, Oklahoma, etc. wanted him as a skill player other than QB. Shoot, he had most of the SEC coming after him for other positions but he stymied all interested parties fairly early.
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glad our new rb is faster, more fluid and stronger. just less experienced.
fatty, sorry. Bryce is a player I'm really looking forward to as well. He is definitely faster and a vertical threat to score both as a runner and receiver. The primary reason he was ranked as the top RB by rivals over 'Bama signee Richardson is his ability as a receiver. Tennessee used him well as a receiver though not as much as they probably would have liked. Daniel was awfully fluid for a big back and I'm not suggesting Bryce isn't but until we see him on the field that is a hard comparison. I do think Bryce is the real deal. Also looking forward to DeMarcus Robinson. I just hope we can get a competent interior OL next season. Oh, and I hope Snyder utilizes the resource he has in Sams and gets some snaps out of him as a receiver next season. I do want him at QB but you can't redshirt a playmaker like that. There is a reason schools like Miami, Oklahoma, etc. wanted him as a skill player other than QB. Shoot, he had most of the SEC coming after him for other positions but he stymied all interested parties fairly early.
The Manhatter, I want Sams to start at QB next season as a true freshmen. It's the only thing that might get me interested in watching KSU football again. Agree?
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The Manhatter, I want Sams to start at QB next season as a true freshmen. It's the only thing that might get me interested in watching KSU football again. Agree?
You & I both would like to see that but I don't know if that is the best thing for the team. Our margin of error is small given the defense and some passing deficiencies. I would be stunned if he was our QB next year other than spot duty. It is such a big step up. I do, however, want to see him on the field getting some snaps at QB next year. Eff this redshirt thing. Use him the way Pinkel used Gabbert and the booger picker their true freshman seasons. But also take advantage of your resources and get him 15-20 snaps a game at wide receiver. The kid is a playmaker and would be deadly in those middle screens Quincy Morgan ran beautifully. Bryce Brown will scare some defensive coordinators because some of the better defenses we play will not be worried about Brod Smith, Harper, or Thompson in man coverage but if you put Bryce in the slot he is a legitimate threat for a go route against a safety. Most defenses won't have 2 corners, let alone 3 who can lock down college receivers. Another player I'm interested to see is Zach Trujillo. The kid did run a 23 second 200 in high school which states he has some speed for a TE. We have had zero wheels at TE since Shad Meier...and we couldn't use him like we wanted in '99 because our OL was terrible.
But we really blew it letting Kennard slip away. OU, LSU, Arkansas, etc. do not go after juco receivers if they don't perceive them to be playmakers. We had him in the bag to go w/ Bryce, Sams, etc. and he got away. That was a royal eff up.
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The Manhatter, I want Sams to start at QB next season as a true freshmen. It's the only thing that might get me interested in watching KSU football again. Agree?
You & I both would like to see that but I don't know if that is the best thing for the team. Our margin of error is small given the defense and some passing deficiencies. I would be stunned if he was our QB next year other than spot duty. It is such a big step up. I do, however, want to see him on the field getting some snaps at QB next year. Eff this redshirt thing. Use him the way Pinkel used Gabbert and the booger picker their true freshman seasons. But also take advantage of your resources and get him 15-20 snaps a game at wide receiver. The kid is a playmaker and would be deadly in those middle screens Quincy Morgan ran beautifully. Bryce Brown will scare some defensive coordinators because some of the better defenses we play will not be worried about Brod Smith, Harper, or Thompson in man coverage but if you put Bryce in the slot he is a legitimate threat for a go route against a safety. Most defenses won't have 2 corners, let alone 3 who can lock down college receivers. Another player I'm interested to see is Zach Trujillo. The kid did run a 23 second 200 in high school which states he has some speed for a TE. We have had zero wheels at TE since Shad Meier...and we couldn't use him like we wanted in '99 because our OL was terrible.
But we really blew it letting Kennard slip away. OU, LSU, Arkansas, etc. do not go after juco receivers if they don't perceive them to be playmakers. We had him in the bag to go w/ Bryce, Sams, etc. and he got away. That was a royal eff up.
Why not just throw him into the fire this season and build for the future? We both know Tuggle is way overhyped and if Klein was any good he would have played by now. Sure, we might go 3-9 and lose to KU but it would be fun to watch and would benefit the team in the future in a lot of ways. Thoughts?
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Tavarius Bender- 4.4 40yd dash. Bryce Brown- 4.32 40 yd dash. thats really the only thing we need to know for the future of kansas state football. amirite.
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I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to like Bryce more than Daniel. :bawl:
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What does the GPC article say?
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What does the GPC article say?
[/quote if you are talking about the RB breakdown article.... then it was just Daniel thomas saying how there will be no drop off in the running game.......and that bryce has been clocked at 4.32 in the 40. and how DeMarcus reminds dt of Kendall Hunter
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What does the GPC article say?
[/quote if you are talking about the RB breakdown article.... then it was just Daniel thomas saying how there will be no drop off in the running game.......and that bryce has been clocked at 4.32 in the 40. and how DeMarcus reminds dt of Kendall Hunter
Is that the "DT Impresses" article?
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DT, slower version of Larry Johnson?
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apparently today steadied his stock, fwiw.
where does that put him?
he'll go in the first 3 rounds. He's a top 5 RB on all boards. He's the #2 RB on Mike Mayock's board and has a 2nd round grade.
so pretty much what every body was saying last week. McShay seemed to make a huge deal out of his 7 fumbles during his junior year and thought he may be going beyond the 3rd.
any other word on other times? i can't find anything other than that he was "solid."
only article i could find on it...
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-04-05/kansas-state-running-back-daniel-thomas-has-mixed-results-at-pro-day
doesn't look like he's going to be moving up or down. found a lot of articles and forum posts on pro team fan sites explaining why they should take him. anywhere from the detroit lions to the Giants to the Patriots. Would love to see him go to a team like the Pats and have an opportunity to succeed while he can still function as an effective back.
McShay is a dipshit, when you carry the ball 40 times a game, you're going to fumble twice as much as someone who carries it 20.
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What does the GPC article say?
[/quote if you are talking about the RB breakdown article.... then it was just Daniel thomas saying how there will be no drop off in the running game.......and that bryce has been clocked at 4.32 in the 40. and how DeMarcus reminds dt of Kendall Hunter
Is that the "DT Impresses" article?
Read.
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Kiper now has Thomas going late 2nd round at the 60th pick to the New England Patriots. If this happens there may be two recent kstate alumns wearing rings.
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Why not just throw him into the fire this season and build for the future? We both know Tuggle is way overhyped and if Klein was any good he would have played by now. Sure, we might go 3-9 and lose to KU but it would be fun to watch and would benefit the team in the future in a lot of ways. Thoughts?
apparently, this is not the case (I'm getting optimistic about Tuggle, almost giddy). IMO, if Tuggle is legit then we should redshirt Sams. We're good enough at receiver if Snyds decides to use harper. I mean, this staff hasn't recruited a QB worth a goddamn in a decade and then we get two of them in one year? have to make it last as long as it can.
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Why not just throw him into the fire this season and build for the future? We both know Tuggle is way overhyped and if Klein was any good he would have played by now. Sure, we might go 3-9 and lose to KU but it would be fun to watch and would benefit the team in the future in a lot of ways. Thoughts?
apparently, this is not the case (I'm getting optimistic about Tuggle, almost giddy). IMO, if Tuggle is legit then we should redshirt Sams. We're good enough at receiver if Snyds decides to use harper. I mean, this staff hasn't recruited a QB worth a goddamn in a decade and then we get two of them in one year? have to make it last as long as it can.
Looking forward to your meltdown when you realize he is way overhyped. You're one of the best.
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Why not just throw him into the fire this season and build for the future? We both know Tuggle is way overhyped and if Klein was any good he would have played by now. Sure, we might go 3-9 and lose to KU but it would be fun to watch and would benefit the team in the future in a lot of ways. Thoughts?
apparently, this is not the case (I'm getting optimistic about Tuggle, almost giddy). IMO, if Tuggle is legit then we should redshirt Sams. We're good enough at receiver if Snyds decides to use harper. I mean, this staff hasn't recruited a QB worth a goddamn in a decade and then we get two of them in one year? have to make it last as long as it can.
:lol:
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I can confirm the Steelers and Lions had coaches present
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Thomas has enough speed, he'll work well in the NFL. Part of the perception of him appearing slow is due to his straight up running style, IMO. Considering Colin Klein will be our starting QB for game #1, our RB's need to be just as durable as DT. At this point, let's just play the guy that can throw it the best. Unfortunately, it is unclear who that person is...