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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: leroylulu on February 24, 2011, 01:23:08 PM
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What are our best and worst case scenarios for next year? With how much defections, graduating seniors, etc have cost us this year, I'm a lil concerned about not having any leadership/ capable P.G. and stuff. TIA for your prognostications. :users:
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Best case: sweet 16
Worst case: prob 8-22 or something
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Worst case scenario - You're still around.
Best case scenario - You realize where this crap post belongs and go back to ksufans.com
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If angel is superhuman, we make the tourney.
If he is a normal 3* frosh, we look like old versions of CU and NU.
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Worst case scenario - You're still around.
Best case scenario - You realize where this crap post belongs and go back to ksufans.com
oh my, that was some heavy PI right out of nowhere
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If we keep everyone we could get on the wrong side of the bubble and maybe a 3 seed nit type team.
If Frank leaves we are beyond screwed.
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Worst case scenario - You're still around.
Best case scenario - You realize where this cac post belongs and go back to ksufans.com
oh my, that was some heavy PI right out of nowhere
Yha I do feel pretty intimidated by that one. I like to read this board, but posting......... that's a different animal there. :ohno: :pray:
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Undefeated or unable to win a game.
Our post game is going to be scary...and not scary good unless Wally comes back with a vengeance and/or Diaz/Gipson are beasts.
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What are our best and worst case scenarios for next year? With how much defections, graduating seniors, etc have cost us this year, I'm a lil concerned about not having any leadership/ capable P.G. and stuff. TIA for your prognostications. :users:
Royalswild again?? he was always coming up with hypotheticals.
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I was thinking about this on the way to Chipotle today where I had a double chicken burrito bowl with guacamole. Delicious...
Anyway... We were competitive without Jacob vs. UNLV. I think we'll have very low expecations but be an NCAA tourney team... 7 to 10 seed.
Sprads and McOrebs will be our floor generals. Jam Sam will be the 3 and our "doberman".
Angel, 95, and Irving can give us minutes at the 1 and 2.
If we can get the kid from Seward could he get some 2/3 time and score buckets?
That leaves Gipson, Diaz, and JO to run things down low. I assume we'll stick with the 1 post offense we've been jacking around with.
I don't think things look horrible. If we defend and get after it we can compete. 20-10 ish?
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20-10 ish?
WOULD TAKE
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We should have a bubble team next year.
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Damn... I forgot Southwell at the 2/3 as well. We are FINE!!! :ksu: :emawkid:
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the "cupboards are not bare"
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I think we are a worse team than we should have been this year / are playing right now. We'll be in or around the tournament. With the 1ish post offense, we're looking at JO, Jamar, Rodney, and some combo of Sprads, Shane, Marty, Nick (I hope :ohno:), Nino, 95, Canada, and Angel. I don't think that is too bad. We need to be able to steal minutes at the 4 with Rodney, which he has proven reasonably capable of as late. We need JO to continue developing, and we need a guard or three to be a threat to score. I don't think any of that is unreasonable. I think its a better / deeper team than the 06-07 team that won 21 games before the Dr. Pepper.
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Not bare, but many will have to make a pretty good jump to fill the roles we will need them to next year and I don't think it is reasonable to expect the many to all make that jump.
Jake is by far our best scorer/creator and on ball defender. Curt our best big.
Unless Angel is amazing, we will have to replace Jake with multiple players contributing successfully and efficiently.
Unless Diaz/gip is amazing, we will have to hope Jordan makes a huge leap in ability.
We have a shot at being OK, but we could very easily be much worse than this year.
Realistically, we are going to be asking a group of couple of very young guards and a group of very mediocre guards to fill the gap jake leaves.
Learn your lesson from this season. Start with low expectations.
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We are going to have to find a lot of scoring :frown: Hopefully Russell is suddenly BFFs with Frank.
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Best case is probably just making the tournament.
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Best case scenario: Title
Worst case scenario: Don't win a game
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Best case is probably just making the tournament.
If angel is superhuman, we make the tourney.
If he is a normal 3* frosh, we look like old versions of CU and NU.
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Best case is probably just making the tournament.
If angel is superhuman, we make the tourney.
If he is a normal 3* frosh, we look like old versions of CU and NU.
I have high hopes for Angel. My reasoning: he speaks spanish (I assume) and Clemente spoke spanish. also, Angel looks bigger than I thought he would be. also, I watched Louisville's latino guard Siva play and he's pretty awesome and Pitino recruited Angel
admittedly, these are shitty reasons.
We'll probably win the league next year <--- h/lbbiq post
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Best case is probably just making the tournament.
If angel is superhuman, we make the tourney.
If he is a normal 3* frosh, we look like old versions of CU and NU.
I have high hopes for Angel. My reasoning: he speaks spanish (I assume) and Clemente spoke spanish. also, Angel looks bigger than I thought he would be. also, I watched Louisville's latino guard Siva play and he's pretty awesome and Pitino recruited Angel
admittedly, these are shitty reasons.
We'll probably win the league next year <--- h/lbbiq post
Siva's breakaway 360 dunk the other night :love:
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Depends on how many guys decide to leave with Frank.
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If you don't expect too much from the 2011-2012 Kansas State Wildcats Men's Basketball team, you might not be let down.
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pretty sure it all boils down to eFG% and a rate or two. nosotros solomente por favor.
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Worst case scenario - You're still around.
Best case scenario - You realize where this cac post belongs and go back to ksufans.com
oh my, that was some heavy PI right out of nowhere
Yha I do feel pretty intimidated by that one. I like to read this board, but posting......... that's a different animal there. :ohno: :pray:
:blush:
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Jam Sam will be the 3.
jfc, not this crap again.
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Jam Sam will be the 3.
jfc, not this crap again.
I can't take another off season with this.
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Best case is probably just making the tournament.
Best case scenario cannot simply be making the tourney. Because if we just barely make the tourney we would be a 12 or 13 seed and 12 or 13 seeds win 2 games in the tourney every year thus making our "best case scenario" the sweet 16. But then I got to thinking that upsets happen in the sweet 16 every year so our "best case scenario" is the elite 8 probably.
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best case is bubble, worst is cbi. *
*expecting this doesn't mean you shouldn't be pissed that this is all we have to expect.
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Preface: I haven't really done my recruiting homework, so I'm ignorant to what we have coming in.
I think that we will be competitive next year, and the home and homes with everyone in conference should offer us an opportunity to be around .500 in conference. Realistic expectations will be set, and if we turn out to be a decent team and climb up as the season progresses we could make the tournament. I loved watching the UNLV game, and if we played like that all year, I'd be proud of the Cats.
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I think we'll find some scoring, we'll be competitive. Frank's teams will always play hard and compete.
But we have to find a replacement for Jake. When games become possession by possession games in the last 5 minutes, we pretty much turn it over to Jake, run some sets, and if we don't get a wide open look we play Jake off a ball screen at about 10 seconds and let him do something. It won the games vs ISU and NU. It didn't against aTm and CU.
Next year we'll have to find the replacement, and that will be tough. And not having someone step up to replace Jake could be the difference between what we are now and being like Oklahoma State. This will be the key.
The downfall of Wooly IMHO was not having those types of playmakers to make plays consistently in games that came down to the last 5 minutes, and too often those were losses. Jake has been doing that lately, and we'll have to replace that. Just look at OSU, Tech, ISU and even NU last night and see what happens when you don't have that.
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I think we are a worse team than we should have been this year / are playing right now. We'll be in or around the tournament. With the 1ish post offense, we're looking at JO, Jamar, Rodney, and some combo of Sprads, Shane, Marty, Nick (I hope :ohno:), Nino, 95, Canada, and Angel. I don't think that is too bad. We need to be able to steal minutes at the 4 with Rodney, which he has proven reasonably capable of as late. We need JO to continue developing, and we need a guard or three to be a threat to score. I don't think any of that is unreasonable. I think its a better / deeper team than the 06-07 team that won 21 games before the Dr. Pepper.
OT question...were you 8 man for a rugby team?