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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: jtksu on January 24, 2011, 08:31:36 PM
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Lol at you dumbasses.
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'grats, jtksu
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Who said you were a one trick pony?! Looks like old wedding photogs can learn new tricks.
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thinks spradling is great and used the word haters. great thread jtard.
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JTKSU, you aren't the only super, super smart guy who thinks this:
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Spradling is putting together a very impressive performance so far. Anyone think the NBA scouts in attendance are taking notice?
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:lol:
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One good half does not mean he is good.
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I'm a confirmed White Nationalist and I puke when I see his on ball D.
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His defense is fine. Not great, not terrible. This is an over done talking point. The dumb TOs, which he's avoided tonight, is legit.
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tuck in front of me: come on! put spradling in!
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Give me one example tonight when he's hurt this team. :comehere:
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Well??
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great thread can't wait to bump the rest of the season. :emawkid:
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Yeah, I'll end up being right about a freshman, at alltimes!
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where were you during all of his crap games? oh i forgot, you left this place for good. :lol:
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Bobby Knight sure had a nut for him tonight
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"Spradling is GOING TO BE THE LEADER OF THIS TEAM NEXT YEAR"
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He had a very good game tonight, because Frank used him like he should, for the most part. He is a white shooting guard. Not a ball handler. Let him run around and off screens and shoot wide open 3's. That's what he is good at. And making free throws. Our offense sucks when we rely on him to handle the ball, which fortunately he did not have to do a whole lot of tonight.
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Sprads played a great game tonight. Personally, I don't think we win this one without him. Like I said before, being a frosh, he's gonna make some mistakes, but for playing point, he's doing fairly well overall at this point in his career. The haters are pretty stupid if they make him their scapegoat on this team. :driving:
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Have all of Spradling's good games been with Knight/Musburger on the call?
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He had a very good game tonight, because Frank used him like he should, for the most part. He is a white shooting guard. Not a ball handler. Let him run around and off screens and shoot wide open 3's. That's what he is good at. And making free throws. Our offense sucks when we rely on him to handle the ball, which fortunately he did not have to do a whole lot of tonight.
Thought he actually did a good job w/ the ball tonight. He is usally pretty good at keeping the ball moving in the half-court. And yeah, he seems to really thrive on the BM/Mussy calls.
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Have all of Spradling's good games been with Knight/Musburger on the call?
Yes, all 2 of them.
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can't wait to see Sprads against KU's guards. This thread will be bumptastic. :emawkid:
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Shocking that Spradling did fine against a complacent defensive team that features a zone. 'Grats Spaulding.
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This thread is dumb on both sides. Really.
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can't wait to see Sprads against KU's guards. This thread will be bumptastic. :emawkid:
KU's guards aren't that good.
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can't wait to see Sprads against KU's guards. This thread will be bumptastic. :emawkid:
KU's guards aren't that good.
Selby and Taylor are bad match-up for Sprads. Their caste players are fine. Not :opcat:, just an observation of skillsets.
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KU will foul him a lot and it won't get called and so they will get steals and dunks against sprads.
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Is Reed playing the 3 all of a sudden?
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Give me one example tonight when he's hurt this team. :comehere:
Passing the ball to CK for him to get fouled and go to the line rather than getting fouled and shooting the FTs himself.
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His defense is fine. Not great, not terrible. This is an over done talking point. The dumb TOs, which he's avoided tonight, is legit.
i honestly question if half the posters here, 75% at gpc, and 99% at kstatefans even watch the games. or if they do, if they have eyes.
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His defense is fine. Not great, not terrible. This is an over done talking point. The dumb TOs, which he's avoided tonight, is legit.
i honestly question if half the posters here, 75% at gpc, and 99% at kstatefans even watch the games. or if they do, if they have eyes.
Yeah, I made it a point to watch his defense. He was fine tonight. Occasionally he gets out of position, but tonight he was very solid. And against quick guards that like to drive.
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His defense is fine. Not great, not terrible. This is an over done talking point. The dumb TOs, which he's avoided tonight, is legit.
i honestly question if half the posters here, 75% at gpc, and 99% at kstatefans even watch the games. or if they do, if they have eyes.
Yeah, I made it a point to watch his defense. He was fine tonight. Occasionally he gets out of position, but tonight he was very solid. And against quick guards that like to drive.
I think that he's also a situational player like JHR, but with more upside. Some games will be good for him, while some teams are just a terrible matchup for him. KU will be an awful matchup for him, and he's gonna get knocked around. But I think that tonight was probably a good development game for him. The main reason I went off on him after Missouri is that he has this knack to make some awful mental errors and kill momentum just as we're about to land a game-changing or knockout blow. He almost started another tailspin tonight, but we recovered this time. However, he's a freshman, so he still has a chance to fix most of those issues.
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JFC, the kid had a nice game and looks like a good player for the future. How did the #1 recruit do tonight? How well will Perry's rep9lacement do againt us in 3 years? Retards and simpletons, the lot of ya.
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How did the #1 recruit do tonight?
looked incredibly talented. i'm sure their top 10 guy in 2011 & their top 10 guy in 2012 are pretty good too. they're still waiting for a top 10 commit in 2013.
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I would like Sprads alot more if he were faster and handled the ball a little better...
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I think that he's also a situational player like JHR
What situation would JHR be the right guy for? Like, you have to lose by 50 or terrorists will kill your family?
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Yeah, Jones III did look great while fouling the crap out of everyone.
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Sprads played one of his best games of his career last night.
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Sprads played one of his best games of his career last night.
Yes, but I hope the Sprads lovers don't expect it from him every game. He's a good player, but he's still going to have moments of struggle.
I'm hoping the growing hate of JHR will take some of the attention off Sprads actually.
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I think that he's also a situational player like JHR
What situation would JHR be the right guy for? Like, you have to lose by 50 or terrorists will kill your family?
Missouri
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I really didn't think JHR was all that bad. :dunno:
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I really didn't think JHR was all that bad. :dunno:
That's because he wasn't. Its just fun to hate him.
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I really didn't think JHR was all that bad. :dunno:
That's because he wasn't. Its just fun to hate him.
no one wishes that asprilla was still here as much as jhr. poor guy. people already disliked him.
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I have an idea: if a dude isn't totally badass, at all times, let's all post shitty comments about him on an anonymous message board! Ready? I'll go first- this board is horrible, the vast majority of the time! Who's next?!
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jhr wouldn't bother me if he didn't try to have an offense. just get rebounds, be tall, and pass. at least once a game he tries to drive it and he looks extremely awkward.
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JHR attacks the basket very aggressively. It was awesome to watch vs. Mizzou, but it's been a train wreck most games. Maybe he'll be better next year.
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jhr wouldn't bother me if he didn't try to have an offense. just get rebounds, be tall, and pass. at least once a game he tries to drive it and he looks extremely awkward.
He attempted 3 shots in 17 minutes (and had 2 Orebs). :ck:
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jhr wouldn't bother me if he didn't try to have an offense. just get rebounds, be tall, and pass. at least once a game he tries to drive it and he looks extremely awkward.
He attempted 3 shots in 17 minutes (and had 2 Orebs). :ck:
yeah, not necessarily talking about this game. just in general.
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Okcat would't bother me if he just stuck to the one thing he was good at. Not really sure what that one thing is but he should stick to it. Also, funny how his fatass tries to talk crap on dudes that are roughly one million times more athletic than he is. Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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I really don't see anything in JHR's season numbers (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/jordan-henriguez-roberts) to complain too much about. Plus, he compares favorably (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=wally-judge&p1=jordan-henriguez-roberts) to everyone's favorite, Wally Judge.
Again, I like Judge, but he's done nothing (with many more opportunities) to prove he should play a lot more than JHR. They are both role playing bigs.
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I really don't see anything in JHR's season numbers (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/jordan-henriguez-roberts) to complain too much about. Plus, he compares favorably (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=wally-judge&p1=jordan-henriguez-roberts) to everyone's favorite, Wally Judge.
Wow. he does absolutely everything better than Wally. FAN dropping the hammer on JHR haters.
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I really don't see anything in JHR's season numbers (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/jordan-henriguez-roberts) to complain too much about. Plus, he compares favorably (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=wally-judge&p1=jordan-henriguez-roberts) to everyone's favorite, Wally Judge.
Wow. he does absolutely everything better than Wally. FAN dropping the hammer on JHR haters.
Yeah, Wally is a better passer, but that's about it.
And just imagine if Wally didn't have that three game stretch against terrible teams where Frank tried to make him the feature part of the offense/team. I just find it hard to complain about Wally/JHR when Frank has gone out of his way to give Wally a spot. Its really ridiculous.
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Plus, he compares favorably (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=wally-judge&p1=jordan-henriguez-roberts) to everyone's favorite, Wally Judge.
using a favorable comparison to wally judge as a compliment?
:lol:
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Plus, he compares favorably (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=wally-judge&p1=jordan-henriguez-roberts) to everyone's favorite, Wally Judge.
using a favorable comparison to wally judge as a compliment?
:lol:
JFC, Frank!!! :curse: Why isn't Wally playing???
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Plus, he compares favorably (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=wally-judge&p1=jordan-henriguez-roberts) to everyone's favorite, Wally Judge.
using a favorable comparison to wally judge as a compliment?
:lol:
No. If I PIed people I would PI you right now. :curse:
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I am so glad that Wally and Freddy (and their. 10 fouls) and their 10 fouls will not be an option for the rest of the year. Good riddance, We have more than enough bigs to be a successful team.
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_Fan has converted me since yesterday regarding JHR. Call him a necessary (but really adorable) evil, I guess.
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_Fan has converted me since yesterday regarding JHR. Call him a necessary (but really adorable) evil, I guess.
adorable? wut? a necessary evil? yes. but adorable? no.
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Sprads with the arm sleeve, omg. :lol: :emawkid:
You don't quite pull it off buddy but I like were your head's at, Doc. If you start wearing a headband I might just die.
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On BOTC, A&M fan didn't realize Sprads was a freshman. True story.
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_Fan has converted me since yesterday regarding JHR. Call him a necessary (but really adorable) evil, I guess.
adorable? wut? a necessary evil? yes. but adorable? no.
OMG :love: :blush:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-baskbl%2Fauto_headshot%2F5831623.jpeg&hash=aaee5a9792157150399f0cc149a2ffab5ce8f1e1)
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_Fan has converted me since yesterday regarding JHR. Call him a necessary (but really adorable) evil, I guess.
Thanks, and I hope people don't misunderstand. I'm not advocating that JHR is one of our best post players, or even third best overall. But he is 3rd right now. He's a 3 star recruit, given his size/athleticism pretty much a project, and by midway through his SO year he's a serviceable role playing post. Pretty much what I'd hope, and we'll see what he becomes. But his play doesn't even register in a list of post disappointments right now.
I'd list my top post disappointments like this:
1) The inconsistency, on and off the court season of Curtis Kelly. Preseason the hope was all-league level player and he's not. His up and down year has been a big factor in our year.
2) Our McD/5 star post not turning into one of our top 3 post players. Judge has all the measureables, looks good, but when he's banged around he plays soft, softer than JHR much of the time. One of the things I was hoping for was not necessarily Judge becoming all-league, but at least becoming similar to Samuels (numbers wise) during his FR year.
3) Asprilla being a wuss. His play on the court was about what I thought it would be, but I'm disappointed he didn't hang around. Depth is depth.
4) JamSam's struggles with his shot/scoring. Last year he was a double figure scorer in nearly 2/3 of our games, this year less than 1/2. His rebounding and defense is actually slightly better, but I expected he'd at least maintain his ability to score and he's dropped off. Granted, some of that is likely related to #1.
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jhr wouldn't bother me if he didn't try to have an offense. just get rebounds, be tall, and pass. at least once a game he tries to drive it and he looks extremely awkward.
He attempted 3 shots in 17 minutes (and had 2 Orebs). :ck:
his last oboard was impressive. big time, as a gym teacher might say.
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Never hated Doc, just hated the situation he's been forced into. Even the acne scars are growing on me.
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Jordan Henriquez-Roberts is our best player and the only hope for the future of the program. I love him and want to sex him.
OMG :horrorsurprise:
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1) The inconsistency, on and off the court season of Curtis Kelly. Preseason the hope was all-league level player and he's not. His up and down year has been a big factor in our year.
He's been really consistent when he's on the court. His suspensions are what hurt him (and the team). Without Frank's myssuspensions (yes, that's Frank's fault) and a jaded girlfriend at Dillard's, he's fine.
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Jordan Henriquez-Roberts is our best player and the only hope for the future of the program. I love him and want to sex him.
OMG :horrorsurprise:
:lol:
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1) The inconsistency, on and off the court season of Curtis Kelly. Preseason the hope was all-league level player and he's not. His up and down year has been a big factor in our year.
He's been really consistent when he's on the court. His suspensions are what hurt him (and the team). Without Frank's myssuspensions (yes, that's Frank's fault) and a jaded girlfriend at Dillard's, he's fine.
Offensively, yeah. Defense and rebounding, not as much. Still good most of the time, but not always consistent. Its why Frank hates him.
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Anyone see Jake grab Curtis and yell at him to not get a f'n lane violation?
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Anyone see Jake grab Curtis and yell at him to not get a f'n lane violation?
That's good advice.
My personal fave was frosh from Rice HS Souhtwell shoving senior from Rice HS Kelly for not getting a rebound.
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1) The inconsistency, on and off the court season of Curtis Kelly. Preseason the hope was all-league level player and he's not. His up and down year has been a big factor in our year.
He's been really consistent when he's on the court. His suspensions are what hurt him (and the team). Without Frank's myssuspensions (yes, that's Frank's fault) and a jaded girlfriend at Dillard's, he's fine.
Offensively, yeah. Defense and rebounding, not as much. Still good most of the time, but not always consistent. Its why Frank hates him.
He's had 7+ rebounds in 3 of 4 games since returning. :ck:
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1) The inconsistency, on and off the court season of Curtis Kelly. Preseason the hope was all-league level player and he's not. His up and down year has been a big factor in our year.
He's been really consistent when he's on the court. His suspensions are what hurt him (and the team). Without Frank's myssuspensions (yes, that's Frank's fault) and a jaded girlfriend at Dillard's, he's fine.
Offensively, yeah. Defense and rebounding, not as much. Still good most of the time, but not always consistent. Its why Frank hates him.
He's had 7+ rebounds in 3 of 4 games since returning. :ck:
I think Frank expects more out of him. Maybe unrealistic, I just watch Frank react to Curt and its often negative.
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I can't believe some of you don't think JHR is awful.
:facepalm:
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I can't believe some of you don't think JHR is awful.
:facepalm:
He is our third best post player at the moment, that is what is awful.
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JHR will be the same player he was as a freshman as a senior.
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I can't believe some of you don't think JHR is awful.
:facepalm:
He is our third best post player at the moment, that is what is awful.
Which isn't saying much since we only play 3 post players at the moment.
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_Fan has converted me since yesterday regarding JHR. Call him a necessary (but really adorable) evil, I guess.
So, kinda like the discussion we had last year regarding Lou.
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JHR will be the same player he was as a freshman as a senior.
No he won't.
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I will bet money that JO will be just as worthless his senior year as he is now
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I will bet money that JO will be just as worthless his senior year as he is now
Wrong. Not very good at this.
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jhr wouldn't bother me if he didn't try to have an offense. just get rebounds, be tall, and pass. at least once a game he tries to drive it and he looks extremely awkward.
His aggression is what will make him a better player.
There are many dumbasses in this thread, like the facebook stalker. The one universal quality that every good post player has on any level is aggression, you can't name a single good big in the history of basketball that is passive.
If Jordan doesn't get bulkier or improves his skill even a little he will become a better player because he will become smarter and more confident. Jordan is everything Wally isn't, Wally has no potential because he's a wimp.
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I will bet money that JO will be just as worthless his senior year as he is now
Wrong. Not very good at this.
Its my opinion. I think He Sucks. And he will continue to suck. Along with Wally.
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I will bet money that JO will be just as worthless his senior year as he is now
Wrong. Not very good at this.
Its my opinion. I think He Sucks. And he will continue to suck. Along with Wally.
Good analysis, I'm sold!
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I will bet money that JO will be just as worthless his senior year as he is now
Wrong. Not very good at this.
Its my opinion. I think He Sucks. And he will continue to suck. Along with Wally.
How much are you willing to bet?
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I will bet money that JO will be just as worthless his senior year as he is now
Wrong. Not very good at this.
Its my opinion. I think He Sucks. And he will continue to suck. Along with Wally.
How much are you willing to bet?
My Life.
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I will bet money that JO will be just as worthless his senior year as he is now
Wrong. Not very good at this.
Its my opinion. I think He Sucks. And he will continue to suck. Along with Wally.
Good analysis, I'm sold!
I am not trying to "sell" anything.
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1) The inconsistency, on and off the court season of Curtis Kelly. Preseason the hope was all-league level player and he's not. His up and down year has been a big factor in our year.
He's been really consistent when he's on the court. His suspensions are what hurt him (and the team). Without Frank's myssuspensions (yes, that's Frank's fault) and a jaded girlfriend at Dillard's, he's fine.
Offensively, yeah. Defense and rebounding, not as much. Still good most of the time, but not always consistent. Its why Frank hates him.
without looking up any stats whatsoever to backup this claim, it appears we are a lot better defensively overall when kelly is on the floor. i think the threat of a legitimate shot blocker in there at least gives teams reason to think otherwise before making a drive.
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freak42 has changed a crap ton since he debuted here...
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I will bet money that JO will be just as worthless his senior year as he is now
Wrong. Not very good at this.
Its my opinion. I think He Sucks. And he will continue to suck. Along with Wally.
Good analysis, I'm sold!
I am not trying to "sell" anything.
Its my opinion. I think you clearly don't know crap about basketball. And should shut the eff up.
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freak42 has changed a cac ton since he debuted here...
Its true. I need to get back to my roots. And contribute to goEMAW.com.
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1) The inconsistency, on and off the court season of Curtis Kelly. Preseason the hope was all-league level player and he's not. His up and down year has been a big factor in our year.
He's been really consistent when he's on the court. His suspensions are what hurt him (and the team). Without Frank's myssuspensions (yes, that's Frank's fault) and a jaded girlfriend at Dillard's, he's fine.
Offensively, yeah. Defense and rebounding, not as much. Still good most of the time, but not always consistent. Its why Frank hates him.
He's had 7+ rebounds in 3 of 4 games since returning. :ck:
I think Frank expects more out of him. Maybe unrealistic, I just watch Frank react to Curt and its often negative.
Frank reacts negatively to most things that most of our players do.
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JHR will be the same player he was as a freshman as a senior.
No he won't.
He's already better than he was last year. His main problem is using his hands on defense. He makes a lot of stupid fouls, and continuously gets called for reaching in away from the basket and blocking fouls when playing "totem pole defense would be just as effective. He is pretty decisive with the basketball even though those decisions are always the correct ones. I don't really think he is a dumb player, I think he has pretty high bbiq, but his build and body movements make it seem otherwise.
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without looking up any stats whatsoever to backup this claim, it appears we are a lot better defensively overall when kelly is on the floor. i think the threat of a legitimate shot blocker in there at least gives teams reason to think otherwise before making a drive.
No doubt. He is one of the best players on this team. He just goes through moments of inconsistency.
But like most post players, Kelly (and Samuels) have ceilings on the minutes they can play and still be effective, plus battling foul trouble. Since Kelly has been back, both he and Samuels are playing about 30 MPG. I like that Frank is staying with those two more, but that may be pushing it and allowing them to still maximize their time on the floor, both would probably be better at about 25-27 MPG each. That's where the Wally/JHR stuff comes in, it really shouldn't have to be either/or b/c it needs to be both. JHR at the 17 MPG he's played the last 3 games is the most I want to see him. Idealy IMHO we would see Kelly and Samuels at around 27, then JHR and Judge split the rest which leaves about 13 MPG each. If one plays a few more minutes fine, but to play at the level Frank wants them to play, we need both. So hopefully both Frank settles down with his Judge PT and Judge gets whatever is holding him back figured out and we can see more of him. I just don't like seeing us only play 3 posts b/c Frank has always tried to play 4 guys there, at least in part.
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best thread title on GPC for 1/25/11:
Could Spradling be the Jordy Nelson of basketball?
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best thread title on GPC for 1/25/11:
Could Spradling be the Jordy Nelson of basketball?
And if so, who's the Jerry Rice of basketball because whoever he is needs to warm up having all his records smashed.
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best thread title on GPC for 1/25/11:
Could Spradling be the Jordy Nelson of basketball?
And if so, who's the Jerry Rice of basketball because whoever he is needs to warm up having all his records smashed.
:lol: omg
it's gotta be someone that GPC loves. one of the old balls players.
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best thread title on GPC for 1/25/11:
Could Spradling be the Jordy Nelson of basketball?
If there was ever one thread title that could ever 100% entirely encapsulate the complexion of a message board...
Speaking of complexion, I had a pretty HBBIQ conversation with my mom last night. She tells me, "I like that Will Spradling but he's got to get that face under control".
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Sprads is my favorite player on our team. Not even lying.
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best thread title on GPC for 1/25/11:
Could Spradling be the Jordy Nelson of basketball?
And if so, who's the Jerry Rice of basketball because whoever he is needs to warm up having all his records smashed.
Mitch
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best thread title on GPC for 1/25/11:
Could Spradling be the Jordy Nelson of basketball?
And if so, who's the Jerry Rice of basketball because whoever he is needs to warm up having all his records smashed.
Mitch
too black, too strong
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Bob Knight absolutely loves Sprads.
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Bob Knight absolutely loves Sprads.
there was some amazingly "LOL" tweets during the game on Monday.
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GPC Will Spradling thread title of the day:
Perspetive: Freshman year: Jimmer Fredette v. Will Spradling
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GPC Will Spradling thread title of the day:
Perspetive: Freshman year: Jimmer Fredette v. Will Spradling
:lol:
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best thread title on GPC for 1/25/11:
Could Spradling be the Jordy Nelson of basketball?
And if so, who's the Jerry Rice of basketball because whoever he is needs to warm up having all his records smashed.
Mitch
too black, too strong
Jerry Rice is pretty damn black
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Between the comparos to Jordy Nelson and Jimmer Fredette, GPC has really gone Caste Football. Not that it ever wasn't, but now they aren't even trying to hide it