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Title: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: BigPapi on February 15, 2010, 09:01:32 PM
He's got the Valley pedigree. He wasn't even good his last season there.

Or is he a SLTH?
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: sys on February 15, 2010, 09:03:23 PM
recruits ok.  wins.  is at a school with a decent bball budget.


same thing that separates all non-slth coaches from slth coaches.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2010, 09:17:31 PM
Yeah, hiring an AAU coach to obtain a recruit pretty much eliminates you from SLTH-dom.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: sys on February 15, 2010, 09:19:39 PM
Yeah, hiring an AAU coach to obtain a recruit pretty much eliminates you from SLTH-dom.

wooldridge?  was weiser the slth in that relationship?   :eek:
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2010, 09:21:41 PM
Turg also played for a big time program.  Most SLTHs did not.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: BigPapi on February 15, 2010, 09:22:36 PM
Yeah, hiring an AAU coach to obtain a recruit pretty much eliminates you from SLTH-dom.

wooldridge?  was weiser the slth in that relationship?   :eek:

could slth AD's doom non-slth coaches to slth-dom?
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: chum1 on February 15, 2010, 09:23:11 PM
You guys are full of crap.  Turg is a SLTH all the way.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: pike on February 15, 2010, 09:34:23 PM
Turg has made the tournament several times
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: jtksu on February 15, 2010, 09:49:52 PM
Turg has made the tournament several times

Made it to the second round the last four years, with a Sweet 16 appearance in 2007.  Not very SLTHish, IMHO.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: Cire on February 15, 2010, 09:52:39 PM
He's won enough.  very slthy style though.  More mid majory.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: catsdo on February 15, 2010, 09:59:45 PM
He lost to our non-SLTH coach by 23.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: Cire on February 15, 2010, 10:02:53 PM
we've destroyed them 2 times in a row in the ood.  I think we just match up really well with them.

Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: Kat Kid on February 15, 2010, 10:03:46 PM
we need either another SLTH definition thread or a goEMAW wiki entry.
Title: Help for a newbie
Post by: 06wildcat on February 15, 2010, 10:04:59 PM
What the shazbot! does SLTH stand for?  :confused:

Totally unelite to ask I know.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 15, 2010, 10:06:33 PM
Jacking up 3's in close game with under 2min isn't SLTH.
Title: Re: Help for a newbie
Post by: jmlynch1 on February 15, 2010, 10:11:07 PM
solid long term hire
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: chum1 on February 15, 2010, 10:11:43 PM
As has been noted, SLTH status is determined when the prospective SLTH is a coaching candidate, not when he's a coach.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: theKSU on February 15, 2010, 10:16:31 PM
SLTH's don't make it to the tournament, and they definitely don't win games in the tourney. 
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 15, 2010, 10:17:59 PM
As has been noted, SLTH status is determined when the prospective SLTH is a coaching candidate, not when he's a coach.

True.  Taking a mid-major to the Sweet 16 eliminated Turg from SLTH status when he was hired at aTm.  JMHO.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: kcchiefdav on February 15, 2010, 10:20:49 PM
He's automatically eliminated because other head coaches never talk about what a good guy he is or how much they respect him.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: theKSU on February 15, 2010, 10:25:41 PM
He's automatically eliminated because other head coaches never talk about what a good guy he is or how much they respect him.

LOL  and he looks like a turtle.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: chum1 on February 15, 2010, 10:26:34 PM
As has been noted, SLTH status is determined when the prospective SLTH is a coaching candidate, not when he's a coach.

True.  Taking a mid-major to the Sweet 16 eliminated Turg from SLTH status when he was hired at aTm.  JMHO.

Why would it?  According to conventional wisdom, nothing says solidness like success at a mid-major.  

Most of these definitions amount to nothing but SLTH = a guy just like Wooldridge.  The concept is so much broader than that.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: deputy dawg on February 15, 2010, 10:28:38 PM
slth, mlth.  Mark Turgeon is a FP.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: Kat Kid on February 15, 2010, 10:32:08 PM
Let's make this official!

SLTH-

mvc call-up
kansan
ugly
Sweet 16 cinderella
running second/third best program in state considered rousing success
has complained about "youth"/"injuries"
mediocre record despite huge investment

Non-SLTH-

AAU aware
possibly slimy
pretty good recruits
talent/underachiever as opposed to no talent/overachiever
has facilities/budget
other coaches dislike him/rarely praised for SLTHy things

Would like some more discussion about what the destination job says about the coach?  Can a coach be a SLTH in non-SLTH clothing?  For a big time AD is a Frank Solich/Turgeon a SLTH?  Lot's of discussion/definitions that need to be revisited and delineated here.
Title: Re: Help for a newbie
Post by: 06wildcat on February 15, 2010, 10:39:38 PM
solid long term hire

Grats  :drink: on me
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2010, 10:47:00 PM
Yeah, hiring an AAU coach to obtain a recruit pretty much eliminates you from SLTH-dom.

wooldridge?  was weiser the slth in that relationship?   :eek:

wasn't Salinas just a GA?  Does that count as hiring?  Jordan's AAU coach was a full-blown assistant, (until Jordan left, :lol: )
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: Louises West on February 16, 2010, 03:41:28 AM
He's got Jayhawk blood in him.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2010, 07:09:37 AM
Wow, bunch of retards getting schooled by chum1 in this thread.  Turg. was without a doubt a SLTH. 
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: sys on February 16, 2010, 09:22:27 AM
wasn't Salinas just a GA?  Does that count as hiring?  Jordan's AAU coach was a full-blown assistant, (until Jordan left, :lol: )

thought he was the dobo.  don't recall for sure.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: michigancat on February 16, 2010, 11:47:41 AM
wasn't Salinas just a GA?  Does that count as hiring?  Jordan's AAU coach was a full-blown assistant, (until Jordan left, :lol: )

thought he was the dobo.  don't recall for sure.

Quote
Texas A&M Director Basketball Operations Chris Salinas served as an administrative assistant at Kansas State last season.

http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/012105aaa.html


So I guess he was technically hired. 
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: JMart on February 16, 2010, 12:11:40 PM
Wow, bunch of retards getting schooled by chum1 in this thread.  Turg. was without a doubt a SLTH. 

Especially when you consider he was hired the year AFTER the season he took WSU to the Sweet 16. That's total SLTH.
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: mcmwcat on February 16, 2010, 03:43:28 PM
2nd hand source but ... gottlieb on turgeon "He does things the right way"
Title: Re: What makes Turg not a SLTH?
Post by: jtksu on February 16, 2010, 03:44:14 PM
2nd hand source but ... gottlieb on turgeon "He does things the right way"

That's pretty much like hearing a banshee scream.